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Re: Manual 0-60 vs. DSG 0-60
« Reply #40 on: 24 July 2013, 10:02 »
Why have a six-pack, when you can have a barrel  :grin:

You can, of course, have a coupe version of the C4S... and you're right it is a great car
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Re: Manual 0-60 vs. DSG 0-60
« Reply #41 on: 24 July 2013, 10:29 »
Why is everyone so worried about 0-60 times... I seems like a lot of pointless willy waving to me  :evil:

Because it's a GTI and it's bought for it's performance capabilities among other things

And 0-60 times are an effective measure of performance?

You've obviously been listening to the likes of Clarkson for too long...

And for those of you that think I bought a C4S Cabrio :cool: for its 0-60 times or for any reason other than it being a great car... Are you on drugs?

Of course it's an effective measure of performance. What planet are you living on? Pretty much all manufacturers quote 0-60 times and so do all those who review cars.

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Re: Manual 0-60 vs. DSG 0-60
« Reply #42 on: 24 July 2013, 10:56 »
So, you spend all your time drag racing from the lights to see if you can match the claimed 0-60 times?

0-60 times are one measure of performance - one that frankly is affected by gearing; can you reach 60 in 2nd or do you have to change to third? An isolated view of a single stat does not give a rounded view of the performance of any car...

If I had a high powered front-wheel drive car I'd be looking for another stat, say 30-70 through the gears, perhaps...

I had a 1.4 SuperSport Caterham, it would get from 0-60 in about 5 seconds, but from 80-100 a 1.4 Corsa would have been as quick because of the gearing, aerodynamics etc.

Just because Clarkson witters on about stats like these doesn't mean they are an accurate indication of a car's overall performance.
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Re: Manual 0-60 vs. DSG 0-60
« Reply #43 on: 24 July 2013, 11:49 »
So, you spend all your time drag racing from the lights to see if you can match the claimed 0-60 times?

0-60 times are one measure of performance - one that frankly is affected by gearing; can you reach 60 in 2nd or do you have to change to third? An isolated view of a single stat does not give a rounded view of the performance of any car...

If I had a high powered front-wheel drive car I'd be looking for another stat, say 30-70 through the gears, perhaps...

I had a 1.4 SuperSport Caterham, it would get from 0-60 in about 5 seconds, but from 80-100 a 1.4 Corsa would have been as quick because of the gearing, aerodynamics etc.

Just because Clarkson witters on about stats like these doesn't mean they are an accurate indication of a car's overall performance.

Are you having a laugh, comparing a caterham to a corsa. What was the 0-60 time of the corsa? On a drag race the caterham would leave a corsa for dead because of its acceleration at 0-60

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Re: Manual 0-60 vs. DSG 0-60
« Reply #44 on: 24 July 2013, 11:51 »
from 80-100 a 1.4 Corsa would have been as quick because of the gearing, aerodynamics etc.

 :grin: :grin: corsa's don't go over 80 do they?!
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Re: Manual 0-60 vs. DSG 0-60
« Reply #45 on: 24 July 2013, 12:24 »
Are you having a laugh, comparing a caterham to a corsa. What was the 0-60 time of the corsa? On a drag race the caterham would leave a corsa for dead because of its acceleration at 0-60

Are you trying or does it just come naturally?  :wink:

I didn't say a 1.4 Corsa would have beaten my (or any) Caterham to 60, far from it. My point was that the 60 target is arbitrary, the Caterham would have disappeared up to 60 but from 60-80 there would be little in it.

0-60 times are effectively meaningless in day-to-day driving...

What stat will you quote when you bump into an Astra VXR driver?

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Re: Manual 0-60 vs. DSG 0-60
« Reply #46 on: 24 July 2013, 12:30 »
What stat will you quote when you bump into an Astra VXR driver?

That my steering wheel isn't trying to break my wrists just because I mashed the throttle into the carpet.  :laugh:
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Re: Manual 0-60 vs. DSG 0-60
« Reply #47 on: 24 July 2013, 12:35 »
Are you having a laugh, comparing a caterham to a corsa. What was the 0-60 time of the corsa? On a drag race the caterham would leave a corsa for dead because of its acceleration at 0-60

Are you trying or does it just come naturally?  :wink:

I didn't say a 1.4 Corsa would have beaten my (or any) Caterham to 60, far from it. My point was that the 60 target is arbitrary, the Caterham would have disappeared up to 60 but from 60-80 there would be little in it.

0-60 times are effectively meaningless in day-to-day driving...

What stat will you quote when you bump into an Astra VXR driver?

This is just nonsense. By the time the corsa had reached 60 the caterham would have been long gone.

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Re: Manual 0-60 vs. DSG 0-60
« Reply #48 on: 24 July 2013, 12:38 »
This is just nonsense. By the time the corsa had reached 60 the caterham would have been long gone.

I think he means if the Caterham and Corsa are both side by side at 60 and then both floor it.

Its still pointless though because no stat will ever be related to actual driving.  To be similar to actual driving requires actual driving.  i.e. actual driving is not a stat or set of stats.

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Re: Manual 0-60 vs. DSG 0-60
« Reply #49 on: 24 July 2013, 12:48 »
Ok so what is an effective measure of performance if not 0-60?