Author Topic: Mk3 gti 8v HELP PLEASE wont start something weird is going on  (Read 6483 times)

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Re: Mk3 gti 8v HELP PLEASE wont start something weird is going on
« Reply #10 on: 10 February 2013, 17:38 »
But still what confuses me is the fact that car starts and works fine when i connect  the pump to a direct 12v source plus all the voltage readings at the plug are correct...

IF it starts with fuel pump directly put to 12V and the relay working correctly then either:

a) fuel pump fuse broken - measure fuse from F18 for continuity

b) connector on back of central electric box is not fully pushed in. take the box out, slide the lock rail out to unlock, make sure they are all pushed in correctly.

c) Check if you get 12V to the fuel pump socket, this would be one of the wider contacts, on one of them you should always have 12V. Check if you get 12V to one of the thinner connector with ignition on.

d) broken wire between ECU and central electrics, or CE and fuel pump in the back.
Measure at various points to check where it is broken.

Also read fault codes with running engine, guessing you got an AGG engine, which has a hall sender in distributor and a separate engine speed sender.
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Re: Mk3 gti 8v HELP PLEASE wont start something weird is going on
« Reply #11 on: 10 February 2013, 17:46 »
Already checked voltage at the fuel pump socket and with ignition on shows 12v for 2-3 sec and then drops to 4v i guess this is the prime cycle, after that when i crank the engine again shows 12v at the socket... This is whats driving me mad !! how is it possible to have them readings but when the pump is pluged in nothing happens pump is dead ???? BTW thanks for all the info guys apriciate !! I will check conectors at the back of the box ....

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Re: Mk3 gti 8v HELP PLEASE wont start something weird is going on
« Reply #12 on: 10 February 2013, 18:16 »
At a guess I'd say your ignition switch is knackered.

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Re: Mk3 gti 8v HELP PLEASE wont start something weird is going on
« Reply #13 on: 10 February 2013, 18:22 »
How do i check that ?? I would really love to know ecu logic and what trigers what ...

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Re: Mk3 gti 8v HELP PLEASE wont start something weird is going on
« Reply #14 on: 10 February 2013, 18:37 »
BTW it is an agg engine..
« Last Edit: 11 February 2013, 10:29 by Kmad »

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Re: Mk3 gti 8v HELP PLEASE wont start something weird is going on
« Reply #15 on: 10 February 2013, 18:53 »
At a guess I'd say your ignition switch is knackered.

usually the best way to test this is wiggle the key while you start it and see if it runs better... another mk3 common fault as they wear out inside the switch! (quite easy to do once the steering wheel is off)
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Re: Mk3 gti 8v HELP PLEASE wont start something weird is going on
« Reply #16 on: 11 February 2013, 13:45 »
Ok will do that!Also tomorrow i am getting it hooked up and gonna read fault codes, maybe ill find something....

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Re: Mk3 gti 8v HELP PLEASE wont start something weird is going on
« Reply #17 on: 11 February 2013, 17:55 »
Anyone know what resistance should i be reading from crank sensor and from what pins???

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Re: Mk3 gti 8v HELP PLEASE wont start something weird is going on
« Reply #18 on: 11 February 2013, 18:52 »
measuring resistance on hall sender does not make sense  :huh:

build youself a test led with 1k resistor and connect the resistor to middle pin, then the LED anode to that, LED cathode to GND..... then get someone to crank it with fuel pump relay removed..... LED should flash at least once a second....
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Re: Mk3 gti 8v HELP PLEASE wont start something weird is going on
« Reply #19 on: 11 February 2013, 19:27 »
Sorry for confusion didnt mean hall sender i ment the engine speed/crank sensor ,the one behind the oil filter...