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Offline Egbutt Wash

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Re: DSG - regrets I've had a few...
« Reply #40 on: 19 October 2012, 18:36 »
My current VW is equipped with DSG (as was my old GTI).
The easy way to overtake a manual is:
1 Put gearlever to manual (not paddle push)
2 Drop down to lowest gear you can using push pull gearlever
3 Floor the throttle
4 Keep the throttle planted and the car will change up to the next gear at redline to protect the engine
5 Observe chap in manual car in rear mirror
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Re: DSG - regrets I've had a few...
« Reply #41 on: 19 October 2012, 18:38 »
Can't relate to any of your complaints tbh, ours is a manual and drives fine and has a distinct lack of rattles.

It's not currently exciting enough for me, but that's being sorted bit by bit :evil:

+1 on the manual transmission; no complaints, and clutch is smooth and progressive in use. Mine's a daily driver and has a few intermittent rattles, but no worse than previous cars; in fact, much better than most of my previous cars.
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Offline JonnyG

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Re: DSG - regrets I've had a few...
« Reply #42 on: 20 October 2012, 21:57 »
2 Drop down to lowest gear you can using push pull gearlever

I guess your paddles have dropped off then  :laugh:

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Offline Snoopy

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Re: DSG - regrets I've had a few...
« Reply #43 on: 21 October 2012, 12:30 »
The GTi is the car that tries to be all things to all men(and women...pc) and as such nothing is turned up to 10.

If you are a driving enthusiast IMO it's absolutely not the car for you, if you are looking for a timeless hot hatch classic you can't go far wrong and it makes a great everyday car.

My rule of thumb is of the wife is happy with it as a daily then it must be ok :grin:

im starting to doubt the whole 'every day' qualities of the car to be honest.

if the car is awkward to drive in traffic (manual version is a bloody disgrace) then its at a serious disadvantage to other 'every day' cars right away.

and as i keep saying the interior rattles and creaks are terrible so driving the thing everyday would throw me over the edge i think.


thats what is annoying me about the car - if it squeaked, rattled and was a hard to drive in traffic BUT it was special in other respects like driving enjoyment/evolvement/character etc i could forgive it.

to me its not a special car to drive - in many respects its less than ordinary BUT a lot of its everyday usability is ruined due to it being so bloody frustrating to drive.



theres no doubt in my mind i bought the wrong car and i cant see me sticking with it much longer really.


that BMW is very tempting but i dont want to go down the road of iro£30k for a hatchback again any time soon.
The problem also effects a lot of modern petrol cars. Our ibiza has the same trait, a Hyundai and kia I tried yesterday did too as did a corsa. Dsg in full auto foes stupid things.like drop to first at roundabouts sometimes. Can be slow to respond and imo you would find it more inert and sterile.
I'm actually suprised your mapped car also has the trait in traffic as I thought they would have mapped it out.
I do prefer the Leon in traffic as the gti sometimes can make me look like a learner driver when it kangaroos on you.
I always thought maybe it was me as I drive many different cars not just one.
I have thought about having a word with my mate at DTUK to see if I can try a pedal box to see if that helps.
Rattles I wish mine rattled as little as yours LOL..
« Last Edit: 21 October 2012, 21:07 by Snoopy »
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Offline mkviken

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Re: DSG - regrets I've had a few...
« Reply #44 on: 21 October 2012, 19:42 »
i was there the other week actually and he offered me a go of his pedal box in my car. said they make a big difference.
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Offline ScottA

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Re: DSG - regrets I've had a few...
« Reply #45 on: 21 October 2012, 20:10 »
How do these pedal boxes work?

How easy are they to fit?

Do they work alongside an existing remap?

Sounds interesting!

Offline mkviken

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Re: DSG - regrets I've had a few...
« Reply #46 on: 21 October 2012, 20:48 »
theyre just plug and play devices, it basically modifies the signal from the pedal to the ecu to get rid of any dead space in the pedal movement or reduce the amount of lag when pressing or coming off the pedal.

the guy i spoke to had a leon fr so basically the same car and said it improved it alot.

http://www.pedal-box.co.uk/site/index.php?page=content&content=6251

http://www.pedal-box.co.uk/site/index.php?page=content&content=5853
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Offline Ess_Three

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Re: DSG - regrets I've had a few...
« Reply #47 on: 22 October 2012, 09:32 »
They simply modify the signal being sent to the ECU to make the ECU think you've pressed the pedal harder and faster.
I've had one fitted for 2 1/2 years (an adjustable version) and like it...it gets rid on the numb standard throttle pedal and makes it far snappier to drive.

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Re: DSG - regrets I've had a few...
« Reply #48 on: 22 October 2012, 09:52 »
I've used a Sprint Booster which is the same thing on both of my mk6s. Wouldn't be without it.
I drive a couple of Caddy vans at work with the 1.6TDI hairdryers and they suffer exactly the same issue as the GTI. You have to mash the pedal to get any response where as my Sprint Booster equipped GTI just needs a brush of the pedal and away you go more like a proper non turbo throttle cable equipped car. But obviously it's still a turbo'd electronic throttled car so a bit jerky but ten times better than the joke of the standard pedal response.
I spoke to Revo when I had my last car and they said there's no way to map that out without having an additional box attached to the pedal.

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Re: DSG - regrets I've had a few...
« Reply #49 on: 22 October 2012, 14:51 »
next time im though at DTUK I'm going to see if i can try it out on my car.
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