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Offline Daz Auto

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DSG - regrets I've had a few...
« on: 12 October 2012, 22:11 »
This is going to be a controvertial thread :evil:

Does anyone regret buying a car with DSG? I have been driving my car for over a year now. Mostly I don't regret DSG, but sometimes I do. :undecided:

DSG is great! For 95% of my driving - I love it. Pulling away from any stop is an effortless revelation! However...

... I wish I had a manual for most overtaking. And I love to overtake. I have tried everything - kick down switch, paddles, S mode and gear leaver manual.

The best method for overtaking that I have found is... Anticipate the overtake - selecting the S mode on the gear lever. Wait a second. Push the foot pedal down to the KDS but not hard enough to activate the switch until the car has sufficent revs (3500?). Then push down the KDS. This gives me max power for overtakes. The problem is after the overtake the car is... confused... usually, even if I push the gear lever back to ordinary drive (or not) the car is revving hard in 4th. So I usually have to use the right hand paddle to put it back into 6th.

... who said automatic is un-involving?

Slow overtakes - pull the right paddle and the cars goes manual 6 - foot down to KDS.

Medium overtakes - pull the left hand paddle for gear 5 - foot down to KDS - then select 6.

Of course sometimes fully automatic is fine. But usually I am left with a feeling of lack of control and there always seems to be a slight delay with full auto.

Maybe I am doing something wrong? Advice welcome.

I can't help thinking that for my driving style - my next car WILL be manual. (though maybe 300hp would work better with automatic? :evil:)
« Last Edit: 13 October 2012, 04:04 by Daz Auto »

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Re: DSG - regrets I've had a few...
« Reply #1 on: 12 October 2012, 22:18 »
Real Petrol heads don't buy autos  :lipsrsealed:
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Re: DSG - regrets I've had a few...
« Reply #2 on: 12 October 2012, 22:20 »
Can't help but think this thread might just end up as the rest - LOCKED :laugh:
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Re: DSG - regrets I've had a few...
« Reply #3 on: 12 October 2012, 22:33 »
Don't want to spoil the thread...but I think you have more control with a manual... :smiley:

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Re: DSG - regrets I've had a few...
« Reply #4 on: 12 October 2012, 22:46 »
LOCK THE THREAD! :evil:

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« Reply #5 on: 12 October 2012, 22:50 »
not this sh!t again

can we not discuss interior rattles instead?
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Re: DSG - regrets I've had a few...
« Reply #6 on: 12 October 2012, 23:22 »
not this sh!t again

can we not discuss interior rattles instead?

Does a manual rattle more than a DSG? :laugh:


To the OP. get the DSG mapped. It makes the manual mode a true manual, removes the kick down and won't gear up unless you ask for it.

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Re: DSG - regrets I've had a few...
« Reply #7 on: 13 October 2012, 04:17 »
Helpful comment. Thankyou!

To the OP. get the DSG mapped. It makes the manual mode a true manual, removes the kick down and won't gear up unless you ask for it.

It is disappointing that some people feel the need to reply to this thread when they have nothing worthwile to contribute! :sad: Such is internet forums I guess :rolleyes:
« Last Edit: 13 October 2012, 08:14 by Daz Auto »

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Re: DSG - regrets I've had a few...
« Reply #8 on: 13 October 2012, 04:55 »
I think you have more control with a manual... :smiley:
Nail, head, hit. The control offered by the manual is just better for overtaking. It is possible to get similar results with my DSG but it takes a bit of skill.

Though as I mentioned above - from any stop, the DSG just pushes you back into the seat and keeps you there. Youtube has a few videos showing just how good the DSG is versus manual - from a stand still. They just do not tell the full story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4HpD5K6Qws

At 2m38sec that video shows a MK5 GTI with DSG versus a few lighter more powerful cars.

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Re: DSG - regrets I've had a few...
« Reply #9 on: 13 October 2012, 07:32 »
In all seriousness, I drove an Audi A1 with S-Tronic and was thoroughly impressed.

Only reason I avoided the DSG was the feedback from a friend who was a service manager for an Audi dealership and who has put the fear of god in me over costs and problems these boxes can generate through their life time.

Possibly no where near as bad as I imagine albeit in the time I have been here there have been a few expensive issues, which if the car was out of warranty would not be well received by my wallet.

Plus I actually like the interaction of a manual and as as already been mentioned the ultimate control, what you described reminds me of old school autos hunting about for the right gears which was incredibly annoying when pressing on.

Would like a drive of a DSG equipped GTi/R though as imagine combined with the power they can be epic and the times Hurdy has been posting look awesome :evil:
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