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Offline swainy

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Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6 - Engine bay tidy up started.
« Reply #50 on: 28 May 2013, 22:08 »
Yeah that notch is huge. Also, are you sure those defender calipers are going to work? This thread reminded me I forgot to reply, those part numbers didnt come up on our system at work but im certain they are from a defender. But in my opinion, they dont look like there going to fit the disc, from the pic you have put up the disc looks as far in as it will go to the caliper but still leaving quite a big part of the disc with no pad on it!!

Apart from that, good work so far  :smiley:

Cheers for looking I did mean to pm you but kept forgetting. :) Upon looking about I'm sure there off a landrover of somesort too, they certainly look the same as a rangerover a lad at work has.
I know I said the exact same thing to my mate when the discs turned up and we tried them, I will have to look into finding some other calipers, atleast I haven't lost anything on them cus they've been in the shed for so long, may be able to sell them to recoup some money for something better.

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« Reply #51 on: 29 May 2013, 21:25 »
I'm more than capable of adding strength back into it like any normal notch.

Without actually putting a box section back into the gaping hole in the crash structure there is no way you can add the strength back in.

As per Wayne - maybe ask your insurance company if that's an acceptable modification.  TBH it's verging on IVA territory.
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Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6 - Engine bay tidy up started.
« Reply #52 on: 29 May 2013, 21:47 »
Surely its like any other chassis notch that thousands of people run, I had read at some point last year a chap on ed38 was on the way home from having his chassis notched, he hit a central reservation at fairly decent speed and mullered the front end of the car on the same side, it hadn't even marked or bent where the chassis was notched.
People seem to forget that 1" of decent penetrative weld can withstand 1ton of weight whether its box section round bar etc.

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« Reply #53 on: 30 May 2013, 18:06 »
And people spouting onabout the strength of weld seem to forget the strength of sectional steel and what they're tampering with is designed to do.  It is the profile of the box section that gives the front crash member its designed strength during operation and also what enables it to deform correctly in a crash, absorbing the impact energy rather than throwing it in to the passenger cell, if the bloke wielding the welding torch has made something 'super strong' which can't deform.

But I'm sure you know better than VWs engineers.

Still, tell us more about how you're going to tune the inlet trumpet lengths for the best response on your ITBs... sounds like it'll be ermazing.
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Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6 - Engine bay tidy up started.
« Reply #54 on: 30 May 2013, 18:23 »
And people spouting onabout the strength of weld seem to forget the strength of sectional steel and what they're tampering with is designed to do.  It is the profile of the box section that gives the front crash member its designed strength during operation and also what enables it to deform correctly in a crash, absorbing the impact energy rather than throwing it in to the passenger cell, if the bloke wielding the welding torch has made something 'super strong' which can't deform.

This. The metal around the weld will just bend in ways it wasn't designed to.

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Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6 - Engine bay tidy up started.
« Reply #55 on: 30 May 2013, 19:39 »
And people spouting onabout the strength of weld seem to forget the strength of sectional steel and what they're tampering with is designed to do.  It is the profile of the box section that gives the front crash member its designed strength during operation and also what enables it to deform correctly in a crash, absorbing the impact energy rather than throwing it in to the passenger cell, if the bloke wielding the welding torch has made something 'super strong' which can't deform.

But I'm sure you know better than VWs engineers.

Still, tell us more about how you're going to tune the inlet trumpet lengths for the best response on your ITBs... sounds like it'll be ermazing.

I've never said I know better than vw engineers, I'm just saying that it'll be like thousands of other cars on the road with a chassis notch.
Oh it'll actually throw it into the drivers cell as the notch is on the drivers side, the passenger side will work as Vw intended. :wink:
How would you suggest I "tune" the lengths, surely thats all down to personal preference of how I want the car to drive once the engine is built and a bit of trial and error or are you some sort of expert that's gonna enlighten us all?

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Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6 - Engine bay tidy up started.
« Reply #56 on: 30 May 2013, 20:28 »
Its ashame man this forum has got so b!tchy these days, its easy for us all to criticise but atleast your having ago but as usual theres always alot of people who know better. Take no notice bud

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Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6 - Engine bay tidy up started.
« Reply #57 on: 30 May 2013, 21:03 »
Cheers  :smiley:
Thing is mistakes happen I'm aware of it and its quite easily rectified.

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« Reply #58 on: 30 May 2013, 21:13 »
Its ashame man this forum has got so b!tchy these days, its easy for us all to criticise but atleast your having ago but as usual theres always alot of people who know better. Take no notice bud

Less b!tchy and possibly more experienced and concerned you're making your car dangerous?

We are only the other people on the road who you might hit, after all.

I seriously doubt there are 'thousands' of cars with notched chassis arms in the UK.  A few hundred maybe.

Hardly a large enough sample to present any valid analysis of the safety of it.
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Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6 - Engine bay tidy up started.
« Reply #59 on: 30 May 2013, 21:21 »
Its ashame man this forum has got so b!tchy these days, its easy for us all to criticise but atleast your having ago but as usual theres always alot of people who know better. Take no notice bud

Got to agree with DH here.  There's a difference in 'having a go' and 'being dangerous'.

That notch is massive and even guys who 'lay frame' don't cut that much out of the legs, as you don't need to.

Measure twice, cut once...

And don't believe everything you read on E38...