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Re: mapping ko4'd agu
« Reply #70 on: 13 March 2012, 22:34 »
A k04-02? can flow enough for 300bhp, it does need ALL the supporting mods to allow it to breathe effectively and not become a heat pump with egt's through the roof. The o.e manifold has long been the bottleneck in the ko4-02x turbo, the introduction of an affordable well designed tubular manifold(although it's a p.i.t.a to fit) coupled with the superb 80mm badger 5 tip will see these results replicated again I'm sure. The last 6 months have seen a major jump in unleashing the potential of the k04! It's also worth remembering Toby has the agu engine with the large port cylinder head along with a slightly higher than amk/bam compression ratio! This all helps!

If Toby's happy to I will get his car on the dyno Saturday to see what's what. I'm 100% confident it will make a repeatable 295-305bhp.

 :cool: i rest my case! lol

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Re: mapping ko4'd agu
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Re: mapping ko4'd agu
« Reply #72 on: 13 March 2012, 22:40 »
Haha yes. I did assemble Toby's k04 setup. I've built a couple of these ko4 engines using the B5 tip and xs-power manifold. It makes a hell of a difference when mapped to suit!

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Re: mapping ko4'd agu
« Reply #73 on: 13 March 2012, 22:42 »
A k04-02? can flow enough for 300bhp, it does need ALL the supporting mods to allow it to breathe effectively and not become a heat pump with egt's through the roof. The o.e manifold has long been the bottleneck in the ko4-02x turbo, the introduction of an affordable well designed tubular manifold(although it's a p.i.t.a to fit) coupled with the superb 80mm badger 5 tip will see these results replicated again I'm sure. The last 6 months have seen a major jump in unleashing the potential of the k04! It's also worth remembering Toby has the agu engine with the large port cylinder head along with a slightly higher than amk/bam compression ratio! This all helps!

If Toby's happy to I will get his car on the dyno Saturday to see what's what. I'm 100% confident it will make a repeatable 295-305bhp.


So you are saying, i put this manifold on my K04 car with a badger 5 tip and ill be at 300 bhp
where a well mapped K04 car will usually make in the region of 255 - 260 bhp, thats 40 + more ponies just from these mods

just all seems like a sales pitch for me, Badger 5 tip and manifold.. id like to see these cars on carbons rollers.. before i decide what route to take next with my car



  


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Re: mapping ko4'd agu
« Reply #74 on: 13 March 2012, 22:46 »
 :laugh: :grin:



what makes Carbon's rollers so amazing?

Tbh, ben@pp does know his stuff he did put it all on mine :grin: and has been doing it for alot of year's!

@brad its not just bolt on these things and there you go! its helping with more air flow, in and out etc..

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A badger5 3"tip on there as well. This car had the very best of every product on the Market which helps with air flow in and out. The ko4 power was moved last year by the introduction of the b5 tip added 15-21bhp on it's own merits now the Relentless manifold... 1.8t tuning has just got more fun for me.. Lol.
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Re: mapping ko4'd agu
« Reply #75 on: 13 March 2012, 22:53 »
mate i know of a LCR with B5 tip and custom map. it made 245 bhp

i don't believe the hype over that tip at all.. not 15bhp anyhow.. 

I know the manifold is restrictive as standard, but seen as I'm planning on big turbo id replace that then anyhow.. Jury is out on 300 for a K04 for me.. hence why i need to see it on a RR i trust.. 300 bhp in a mk3 would be more than enough.. i mean mine is lunacy now at its around the 260 mark. with 290 ibft  (more than your heavy ass mk 4  :tongue: :evil:)
  


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Re: mapping ko4'd agu
« Reply #76 on: 13 March 2012, 22:54 »
A k04-02? can flow enough for 300bhp, it does need ALL the supporting mods to allow it to breathe effectively and not become a heat pump with egt's through the roof. The o.e manifold has long been the bottleneck in the ko4-02x turbo, the introduction of an affordable well designed tubular manifold(although it's a p.i.t.a to fit) coupled with the superb 80mm badger 5 tip will see these results replicated again I'm sure. The last 6 months have seen a major jump in unleashing the potential of the k04! It's also worth remembering Toby has the agu engine with the large port cylinder head along with a slightly higher than amk/bam compression ratio! This all helps!

If Toby's happy to I will get his car on the dyno Saturday to see what's what. I'm 100% confident it will make a repeatable 295-305bhp.


So you are saying, i put this manifold on my K04 car with a badger 5 tip and ill be at 300 bhp
where a well mapped K04 car will usually make in the region of 255 - 260 bhp, thats 40 + more ponies just from these mods

just all seems like a sales pitch for me, Badger 5 tip and manifold.. id like to see these cars on carbons rollers.. before i decide what route to take next with my car





No that's sadly not the case. Presumably you have a amk/bam//apy/apx engine code. This means you are small port with 9-1 compression ratio. Fitting the xs-power mani and b5 tip to yours would 'probably' produce circa 285bhp but that's speculative at best.
It's not a sales pitch at all, I don't sell either of these products but in my repeated hands on experience it's
a worthy mod. If you get over to Audi sport net there's lots of data and dyno reports on both the xs mani and b5 tip. Iirc the manifold made a 30ish bhp difference over stock, that was a back to back test (this was a hybrid ko4 so naturally it will magnify the o.e manifolds poor flow, but still impressive.) Mad really.

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Re: mapping ko4'd agu
« Reply #77 on: 13 March 2012, 22:56 »
the manifold over on club GTI made only 8bhp gain mate


Carbons rollers are very True, heartbreakers intact.. Dyno Dynamics run in shootout mode

  


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Re: mapping ko4'd agu
« Reply #78 on: 13 March 2012, 22:58 »
Anyway 300bhp is so last year. I've heard it's all about 425+bhp and more importantly 4wd lol.
Jus' sayin'  :rolleyes:

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Re: mapping ko4'd agu
« Reply #79 on: 13 March 2012, 22:58 »
r tech and badger 5 had 2 bhp differnce.  :lipsrsealed:

it would be expencive for me and ben to come up saterday- depends on how much u wana see a mk4 ko4 AGU piss over a ko4 BAM  :grin:

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