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Offline Dave_IOW

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Devils Own / 100% water or X% methanol?
« on: 28 November 2011, 20:00 »
Setup will be..

AGU engine
KO4-001
VR6 MAF
Calibra yellow injectors
BAM pump
Devils Own stage 2 kit.
FMIC

All other 'stage 2' supporting mods.

Now i obviously want to have the mixture made up for when i have it mapped to get most potential benefit, so do i want 100% water or a meth & water mix? I believe part meth raises octane, therefore you can advance timing that little bit further.

Opinions please   :smiley:
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Offline jonrandom

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Re: Devils Own / 100% water or X% methanol?
« Reply #1 on: 28 November 2011, 21:18 »
I would like to know about this as well ive got the aquamist kit so will be in the same boat when I take it to get mapped.

Im sure I read somewhere Nick from Rtech saying that you can see very good results just running in on 100% water. So its a hell of a lot cheaper not having to run it with meth all the time. So I was going to get it mapped using just water as that what I will be running most of the time. Then can do a 50 50 mix every so often and if like you say it raises the octane it will still make a difference.

Could be wrong tho dont know alot about these kits.

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Re: Devils Own / 100% water or X% methanol?
« Reply #2 on: 28 November 2011, 21:22 »
Known plenty of tuners to ditch devil kits due to reliability of the kits.

I terms of mixture, you would use both, water cools, meth will allow advancing, going 100% to one or the other won't benefit you, meth on its own will give the advance, but no cooling factor that the water would give, so the mixture option is where you need to go to achieve the desired benefit.

Also don't get meth mixed up with meth  :kiss:  :grin:


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Re: Devils Own / 100% water or X% methanol?
« Reply #3 on: 28 November 2011, 22:13 »
I'm looking into water ink too, spoke to rtech today about it devil have probs with controller. Looking at aquamist kit.
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Re: Devils Own / 100% water or X% methanol?
« Reply #4 on: 28 November 2011, 22:53 »
Hmm didnt nick run the devils kit ith 100% water on his car though with some pretty good results?  :smiley:
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Re: Devils Own / 100% water or X% methanol?
« Reply #5 on: 29 November 2011, 06:14 »
Hmm didnt nick run the devils kit ith 100% water on his car though with some pretty good results?  :smiley:

Yeah thats what I thought cause as well as cooling it will make the air denser.

What is water ink?

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Re: Devils Own / 100% water or X% methanol?
« Reply #6 on: 29 November 2011, 08:30 »
You can use one or the other, just a mixture will allow better results as it has the benefits of both solutions. Water is handy in controlling the EGT with a serious advance, especially if you have knock sensors disabled etc...

Hopefully R-tech will come along soon.


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Re: Devils Own / 100% water or X% methanol?
« Reply #7 on: 29 November 2011, 12:58 »
nick is installing my snow performance kit on my mk5.  So im hoping the results are good.. i will be running 60/40 or 50/50 :smiley:

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Re: Devils Own / 100% water or X% methanol?
« Reply #8 on: 29 November 2011, 14:58 »
Are the AEM kits any good you know???
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Re: Devils Own / 100% water or X% methanol?
« Reply #9 on: 29 November 2011, 19:03 »
MaXXeh, where you going to be buying your meth from?

Ebay?  :lipsrsealed:
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