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Offline Jay

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Re: Derv and the forum ?
« Reply #40 on: 11 January 2011, 21:17 »
you can only own a diesel if you have a petrol weekend toy.. end of..

You dont get diesel heads like you do petrol heads !!

You clearly have never seen this site:
http://www.vwdiesel.net/

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But for the purest engine experience, displacement has no replacement. All other methods are simply attempts to artificially recreate the benefits of displacement.

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Re: Derv and the forum ?
« Reply #41 on: 11 January 2011, 21:19 »
You can beat a car that sounds likes it's fuelled with spanners and revs to 4k.

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Re: Derv and the forum ?
« Reply #42 on: 11 January 2011, 22:15 »
Some of those crazy americans are approaching 6k rpm  :shocked:

I think they just like rebuilding engines in their spare time/every weekend :grin:
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But for the purest engine experience, displacement has no replacement. All other methods are simply attempts to artificially recreate the benefits of displacement.

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Re: Derv and the forum ?
« Reply #43 on: 11 January 2011, 22:18 »
thing is a powerfull diesel still gets sh!t mpg just like petrol motors...
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Re: Derv and the forum ?
« Reply #44 on: 11 January 2011, 22:22 »
Of course a petrol is faster revving Alan you tool. They work on completely different cycles. Petrol produce power high up the rev band, diesel produces it much lower down and everything from combustion to pv diagram is different. You simply cannot compare the two in terms of noise as its a pointless argument.

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Re: Derv and the forum ?
« Reply #45 on: 11 January 2011, 22:59 »

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Re: Derv and the forum ?
« Reply #46 on: 11 January 2011, 23:09 »
Of course a petrol is faster revving Alan you tool.

The fact is obvious its faster revving is not a point against petrol is it Slick?

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Re: Derv and the forum ?
« Reply #47 on: 12 January 2011, 08:53 »
thing is a powerfull diesel still gets sh!t mpg just like petrol motors...
really?  My 250bhp/350lbs PD150 seemed to return pretty good mpg  :wink:

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Re: Derv and the forum ?
« Reply #48 on: 12 January 2011, 08:54 »
Of course a petrol is faster revving Alan you tool.

The fact is obvious its faster revving is not a point against petrol is it Slick?

I personally wouldn't count it as one no mate. Like I mentioned in my previous post the way the engines develop their power are poles apart. What's the point of having a fast revving diesel, when there is no power to be gained from making it do it?

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Re: Derv and the forum ?
« Reply #49 on: 12 January 2011, 11:13 »
I see what your saying and agree but do you not think driving a car in a spirited way that revs high and fast is more enjoyable than changing gear every 2 seconds when you reach 4k?

Im not trying to say diesels are sh!t, far from it. From a motoring and driving experience point of view petrol is simply better. The only reason anyone has a diesel is because they want better MPG. Why have a 170 GTD diesel when you can have a more powerful, better sounding 210 2.0T petrol in the GTI? Because you want 45MPG. Simples.