D.S.G...........Why ?

[iwilkins]

Have you driven a DSG yet mate ?

I was a die hard manual fan and i've posted a very interesting link comparing DSG to manual before. 

The driving experience isn't that different tbh, the only think your not doing is using a pedal and waggling your hand

You entitled to your opinion of course but at least give the DSG a go before you dismiss it .... I'm a converted manual driver myself so i know where your coming from.

[jaydubveedub]

I love my manual GTI but having driven it for over a year, I think I would go for DSG next time.

When 'pressing on' I think I would be able to cover ground more quickly with the DSG and paddles, as I could concentrate on my braking and lines rather than nailing the heel-and-toe down changes.

[Mortimer Hill]

It is even better with a DSG remap.....7400rpm shifts and there's no nasty kickdown or gearing up automatically when you are in M mode. It also has better clutches to manage the power and torque than a manual. If I had a manual box I'd be on my ?? clutch by now.

Look at the facts...

Ferrari ONLY do DSG gearboxes for their cars now - you cannot buy a manual!
Mitsubishi have the SST, which is their version of DSG
Nissan only do DSG on their top sport model - the GT-R
Bugatti's Veyron only comes with DSG
Porsche have swapped to PDK gearboxes - again their own version of DSG
The list goes on

I know some people cling to the old fashioned manual gearbox because they believe themselves to be in control, but remember that the clutch, accellerator and brake pedals are all electronically assisted too and they still come with ESP, EBD, PAS etc etc and no-one moans about those reducing the fun factor.

one of the key features of the DSG / s tronic / PDK system is that it has two clutches and a pre selector mechanism , which is why it can achieve such rapid gear shift. Does the Ferrari actually have the twin clutch/ pre selector arrangement? or does it just have a pedal-less single clutch system?

[jonnygo]

Judging by most responses I think you should change the title of this thread to....

D.S.G............why not?

[Upperoilcan]

Judging by most responses I think you should change the title of this thread to....

D.S.G............why not?

You might be on to something there ! 

[antonis]

I got a manual because I couldn't afford a DSG one

[illyun]

Yes you go through the gears,like up up up,then down down down by a forward and backward motion if using the gear selector with no clutch pedal,No matter how i look at it i dont think my mind could ever be changed as i just love manual....

To me its just what driving a sports car is all about,but as i have already stated.......Each to their own.....

 

Sorry I am being rude but I had to laugh as that is exactly what I used to say until I actually drove one... even then I still went back to manual only to regret it and get another DSG GTI asap... 

[mike.]

Mike - when you mention manual mode do you mean shifting the stick across then using the paddles?

Yes, the best mode..

I have driven DSG now for the last 5 years and could never see me going back to the old fashion stick shift..

[Ed30DSG]

I love my manual GTI but having driven it for over a year, I think I would go for DSG next time.

When 'pressing on' I think I would be able to cover ground more quickly with the DSG and paddles, as I could concentrate on my braking and lines rather than nailing the heel-and-toe down changes.

You can't actually brake and accelerate at the same time on modern DBW cars (unless you get it enabled via a custom remap).

[Hurdy]

It is even better with a DSG remap.....7400rpm shifts and there's no nasty kickdown or gearing up automatically when you are in M mode. It also has better clutches to manage the power and torque than a manual. If I had a manual box I'd be on my ?? clutch by now.

Look at the facts...

Ferrari ONLY do DSG gearboxes for their cars now - you cannot buy a manual!
Mitsubishi have the SST, which is their version of DSG
Nissan only do DSG on their top sport model - the GT-R
Bugatti's Veyron only comes with DSG
Porsche have swapped to PDK gearboxes - again their own version of DSG
The list goes on

I know some people cling to the old fashioned manual gearbox because they believe themselves to be in control, but remember that the clutch, accellerator and brake pedals are all electronically assisted too and they still come with ESP, EBD, PAS etc etc and no-one moans about those reducing the fun factor.

one of the key features of the DSG / s tronic / PDK system is that it has two clutches and a pre selector mechanism , which is why it can achieve such rapid gear shift. Does the Ferrari actually have the twin clutch/ pre selector arrangement? or does it just have a pedal-less single clutch system?

They now have both systems, with the DSG on the new 458 Italia