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Re: D.S.G...........Why ?
« Reply #70 on: 15 August 2010, 18:59 »
Oh an In warranty claim. :rolleyes:?? or is there something else ive mis-read??

Same chance as a Manual Gearbox going to be fair..... and about as costly as each other tbh.

Nick, Generally if its going go bang, it would do it new in its life, rather then 4 years later, and regular servicing, the chances are ALOT less. Dealer would honour some sort of cover its its owner has regually maintained the car with that dealership.

It wouldnt put me off, and and hasnt for that matter.  :grin:

A DSG box would cost a lot more than standard 6 speed.

If I was ever buying one of these 2nd hand I'd avoid the DSG cars like the plague. They might be great when you have a warranty but without they're ticking time bomb. Once these cars get to 10 years old you can bet the DSG cars will be worth less than the manual.

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Re: D.S.G...........Why ?
« Reply #71 on: 15 August 2010, 19:06 »
Oh an In warranty claim. :rolleyes:?? or is there something else ive mis-read??

Same chance as a Manual Gearbox going to be fair..... and about as costly as each other tbh.

Nick, Generally if its going go bang, it would do it new in its life, rather then 4 years later, and regular servicing, the chances are ALOT less. Dealer would honour some sort of cover its its owner has regually maintained the car with that dealership.

It wouldnt put me off, and and hasnt for that matter.  :grin:

A DSG box would cost a lot more than standard 6 speed.

If I was ever buying one of these 2nd hand I'd avoid the DSG cars like the plague. They might be great when you have a warranty but without they're ticking time bomb. Once these cars get to 10 years old you can bet the DSG cars will be worth less than the manual.

Nick

Nick, how you tell that in the future??

Dsg twin clutch hasnt been out for more then 5 years!!!.

How can you predict this, and that these will all go bang, and that this technology will be a waste of money??.

You have as much knowledge in this as i do , and i cant predict the future!

 Only one case i know, where a dsg has gone bang, but that was after it was remapped to stage 2 software was added.
......hardly a major problem is it!

Mechatronics, well thats a different kettle of fish altogether :wink:

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Re: D.S.G...........Why ?
« Reply #72 on: 15 August 2010, 19:14 »
No I can't predict the future, but time and time again cars with complicated systems like this become worthless because of the fear of the cost of repairs. Look old S Class mercs etc. Anything that is likely to be expensive to repair becomes worthless once possible repair costs to major components exceed the value of the car. Used Auto's are always worth less than the manual counterparts due to this very reason, auto boxes cost £££££'a to get repaired.

Doesn't make it a bad car in anyway but make sit a very risky purchase once they're out of warranty by a few years.

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Re: D.S.G...........Why ?
« Reply #73 on: 15 August 2010, 19:30 »
You're biting easily today Steve! :shocked:

Nick, second hand DSG boxes are easy to come by and a £6.9k repair bill is just fantasy unless you go with VW. Concerns over the longevity of the DSG are less than that of a manual, sure if it does go wrong it will cost more to fix, but if you have a stock car and keep it maintained then they have proven to be capable of over 250,000 miles without a need for even a new clutchpack. I doubt you can say that about manuals. We can argue until we are blue in the face, but the facts are that DSG's are quickly becoming the norm for performance cars and the market share is climbing for daily drivers too. The support will grow for them and as it does, part prices will fall and the likes of exchange boxes etc will become more readily available. I have more than double the torque reccommended by VW going through my DSG and it has only just started to show signs of slippage, so even cars that are modified to a lesser extent will still have a gearbox that can take the abuse without giving up the ghost - point a remap at a manual and the clutch simply begs for mercy after a few K miles.

Each have their weaknesses and strengths and it is a personal decision for the owner as to what they ultimately settle with. :cool:
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Re: D.S.G...........Why ?
« Reply #74 on: 15 August 2010, 23:28 »
DSG = Dog's Shaggy Goolies
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