D.S.G...........Why ?

[jonnygo]

Hi all

A very interesting topic and one worthy of debate.

I have just purchased a MK6 GTI with DSG and it has taken some getting used to.
From a GTI PURIST perspective you would buy a manual gearbox as the original GTI was never designed with DSG.
However, things move on and I have no regrets about buying my new car with DSG.
It depends a lot on the type of driving you do.  On my way to work there is lots of traffic and the "D" mode takes care of this.
But....if at any time I want to drop a gear or two I can using the paddle shift.  The beauty of DSG is that it COMBINES manual with automatic.  It a very intelligent system.
I dont think its necessarily any faster than manual though.  Check out the stats on theVW website.
However I do firmly believe that clutchless cars are the future.

[jonnygo]

I set up a thread in MK6 forum called "Extras - vote for your favourite"
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=161584.0

Currently DSG and Xenon headlights are the top two additions GTI owners are voting for!

[Upperoilcan]

Good reply's lads....still not convinced tho,guess i will have to try it myself one day........

But i love the interatction with the car by going through the manuel box..........

[JulesS3]

Good reply's lads....still not convinced tho,guess i will have to try it myself one day........

But i love the interatction with the car by going through the manuel box..........

Im sorry, you have not even tried it?

You can then have no comment on it im afraid. I wish i could have had it in my S3!

[JulesS3]

*shooting comences*

Tiptronic is far from the same as a DSG.  DSG is essentially a manual box with electronic assistance to move the clutch pedal. Toptronic is an automatic gearbox simulating a manual, which for the most part it does badly 

If used right it's the DSG is actually much better than a manual in many ways.  I CBS listing he ways cause I'm on the mobile and it takes far too long :p.  I'm sure someone will do it for me though

It actually has two clutches, just not conventional manual clutches.

Thats not right, did not think dsg had a clutch pedal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct-Shift_Gearbox

[Upperoilcan]

Im sorry, you have not even tried it?

You can then have no comment on it im afraid. I wish i could have had it in my S3!

Err although ive not had DSG,i have owned an automatic in the past,which in principle the dsg is,im saying is that i would get far more driving pleasure from going through the gears rather than using a flappy paddle without a clutch pedal...

Driver preference....that's all......

[JulesS3]

Im sorry, you have not even tried it?

You can then have no comment on it im afraid. I wish i could have had it in my S3!

Err although ive not had DSG,i have owned an automatic in the past,which in principle the dsg is,im saying is that i would get far more driving pleasure from going through the gears rather than using a flappy paddle without a clutch pedal...

Driver preference....that's all......

You just proved my point. Is nothing like any automatic you have ever driven.

You go through the gears on the DSG, you can even use the stick to shift if you need to.

[weston]

guess i will have to try it myself one day........

Go and try one then and you're perception of DSG will probably be very different!
You might even regret having a manual, I know I would.

[Upperoilcan]

Yes you go through the gears,like up up up,then down down down by a forward and backward motion if using the gear selector with no clutch pedal,No matter how i look at it i dont think my mind could ever be changed as i just love manual....

To me its just what driving a sports car is all about,but as i have already stated.......Each to their own.....

[JulesS3]

Yes you go through the gears,like up up up,then down down down by a forward and backward motion if using the gear selector with no clutch pedal,No matter how i look at it i dont think my mind could ever be changed as i just love manual....

To me its just what driving a sports car is all about,but as i have already stated.......Each to their own.....

A mk5 GTI is not a sports car though so the DSG suits it perfectly.