D.S.G...........Why ?

[Upperoilcan]

For the life of me i cant understand why people would have this on their GTI,I know each to their own and all that,but the whole point of buying the GTI was for driving pleasure and chucking it about a bit so why on earth would you spoil it by having an automatic car ? I know with the DSG that the car is faster through the gears.......but even so....

Ive had Tiptronic gear boxes in other cars and i could not bare it...

For me it's all about going through the gears...

I await to be shot down.........

[iwilkins]

*shooting comences*

Tiptronic is far from the same as a DSG.  DSG is essentially a manual box with electronic assistance to move the clutch pedal. Toptronic is an automatic gearbox simulating a manual, which for the most part it does badly 

If used right it's the DSG is actually much better than a manual in many ways.  I CBS listing he ways cause I'm on the mobile and it takes far too long :p.  I'm sure someone will do it for me though


 

[Gene Hunt.]

......time to grab you'd body armour.

[Jimp]

As you said, each to their own, but I've driven a DSG R32 in manual mode and it was awesome fun   Only other triptronic car I've experienced is my dad's D5 S80 and that was nothing in comparison to the DSG box. Night and day in my opinion. It's down to which you prefer the feel of, but don't knock the DSG box without trying it. It's a fantastic piece of work.

[Hurdy]

It is even better with a DSG remap.....7400rpm shifts and there's no nasty kickdown or gearing up automatically when you are in M mode. It also has better clutches to manage the power and torque than a manual. If I had a manual box I'd be on my ?? clutch by now.

Look at the facts...

Ferrari ONLY do DSG gearboxes for their cars now - you cannot buy a manual!
Mitsubishi have the SST, which is their version of DSG
Nissan only do DSG on their top sport model - the GT-R
Bugatti's Veyron only comes with DSG
Porsche have swapped to PDK gearboxes - again their own version of DSG
The list goes on

I know some people cling to the old fashioned manual gearbox because they believe themselves to be in control, but remember that the clutch, accellerator and brake pedals are all electronically assisted too and they still come with ESP, EBD, PAS etc etc and no-one moans about those reducing the fun factor.

[2007GTI]

for me DSG was a no brainer, but bearing in mind I have a 1960's mini cooper, when I want to drive a manual and have some fun.

DSG or any Auto is a life saver in London, or any contested city in fact.  You just stick in in D, forget it about it, then when you want some fun, put it in manual.  I had never had an Auto before this Golf, but now will probably never go back to a manual for my daily drive, unless I lived in Wales or somewhere.

[Wayne]

*shooting comences*

Tiptronic is far from the same as a DSG.  DSG is essentially a manual box with electronic assistance to move the clutch pedal. Toptronic is an automatic gearbox simulating a manual, which for the most part it does badly 

If used right it's the DSG is actually much better than a manual in many ways.  I CBS listing he ways cause I'm on the mobile and it takes far too long :p.  I'm sure someone will do it for me though

Thats not right, did not think dsg had a clutch pedal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct-Shift_Gearbox

[PenguinGTI]

I will admit that there are few finer feelings than nailing a couple of perfect heel-toe changes through a twisty route...

BUT

Not having to use a clutch pedal in traffic is a bonus!

Also when I feel like being an f1 driver I use the paddles.

When I feel like some touring car action I use the stick like a sequential box.

And the DSG pops every time 

[Steve30]

Ive had them all over the years , and the DSG is an awsome peice of kit, it makes me smile everyday (esp paddle shift) 

[illyun]

I have to say that I was a die-hard manual fan and rubbished DSG when I heard about it... that was until I bought a DSG R32 as a stop-gap until I got a manual Edition 30...   OMG!!! It was a revelation!!!  The pop of the exhaust, the versatility of the different modes in different types of traffic, the paddle shift and above all, the seamless acceleration that was simply astounding had me won over.  I still had a residue of the luddite in me when I ordered my manual Ed30 3 months later - that car lasted 8 weeks with me, but I just missed DSG too much, so sold it on at a loss of 6k pounds and ordered another Ed30 with DSG.  The only thing I would say about DSG is that you DO lose a bit of interaction with the car, but you gain so much more that its worth it, especially if you find yourself on a drag strip or at the traffic lights.