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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #330 on: 24 September 2009, 00:29 »
Get in the real world!! for the last time the dsg box is not the be all and end all,

Really? :rolleyes:

So why does the 1000 horsepower Bugatti Veyron ONLY use a DSG?  And why have Porsche developed their own version of the DSG - aka PDK?  What about the Mitsubishi DCT? :smug: :smug: :smug: :smug:  These are all dual-clutch automated manual transmissions! :nerd:

Why does the Zonda PS not use a DSG or DSG equivalent ?

And where did that come from? :rolleyes:

Can't you answer the question ?


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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #331 on: 24 September 2009, 00:35 »
Get in the real world!! for the last time the dsg box is not the be all and end all,

Really? :rolleyes:

So why does the 1000 horsepower Bugatti Veyron ONLY use a DSG?  And why have Porsche developed their own version of the DSG - aka PDK?  What about the Mitsubishi DCT? :smug: :smug: :smug: :smug:  These are all dual-clutch automated manual transmissions! :nerd:

Why does the Zonda PS not use a DSG or DSG equivalent ?

And where did that come from? :rolleyes:

Can't you answer the question ?

I actually replied to your 'original version' of your post.  Your 'edited' post completely changed the context of what you originally wrote!  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #332 on: 24 September 2009, 00:38 »
Get in the real world!! for the last time the dsg box is not the be all and end all,

Really? :rolleyes:

So why does the 1000 horsepower Bugatti Veyron ONLY use a DSG?  And why have Porsche developed their own version of the DSG - aka PDK?  What about the Mitsubishi DCT? :smug: :smug: :smug: :smug:  These are all dual-clutch automated manual transmissions! :nerd:

Why does the Zonda PS not use a DSG or DSG equivalent ?

And where did that come from? :rolleyes:

Can't you answer the question ?

I actually replied to your 'original version' of your post.  Your 'edited' post completely changed the context of what you originally wrote!  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I edited to make it a better question to ask. If DSG and its equivalent was that good, why wouldnt the Zonda PS use it ? I just thought as you mentioned a few supercars that use it, you may be able to tell us why there are other supercars that dont ?


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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #333 on: 24 September 2009, 00:41 »
All the modern ones with any money behind them use a DSG box.

The little few cars a year boys struggle on with clutches and sticks.

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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #334 on: 24 September 2009, 00:43 »
All the modern ones with any money behind them use a DSG box.

The little few cars a year boys struggle on with clutches and sticks.

Pagani have money.


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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #335 on: 24 September 2009, 00:44 »

In park it will be parked without the ability to roll anywhere, which in neutral it could.
I understood on more typical automatic gearboxes, the 'Park' function locks the transmission of the wheels without linking the engine to the transmission, thus it stops the car rolling forward or backwards, whilst Neutral is like neutral on a manual, just no gear so it leaves the wheels/transmission free to roll. I presume DSG works in a similar fashion. I presume also if you were being towed, you would need to put the gear into neutral otherwise you would just wreck the transmission and/or gearbox.

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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #336 on: 24 September 2009, 00:45 »
Get in the real world!! for the last time the dsg box is not the be all and end all,

Really? :rolleyes:

So why does the 1000 horsepower Bugatti Veyron ONLY use a DSG?  And why have Porsche developed their own version of the DSG - aka PDK?  What about the Mitsubishi DCT? :smug: :smug: :smug: :smug:  These are all dual-clutch automated manual transmissions! :nerd:

Why does the Zonda PS not use a DSG or DSG equivalent ?

And where did that come from? :rolleyes:

Can't you answer the question ?

I actually replied to your 'original version' of your post.  Your 'edited' post completely changed the context of what you originally wrote!  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I edited to make it a better question to ask.

Sorry, but that is NOT what the 'edit post' function is for.  Extremely bad forum manners to totally edit out the original context - w@nker! :rolleyes:


If DSG and its equivalent was that good, why wouldnt the Zonda PS use it ? I just thought as you mentioned a few supercars that use it, you may be able to tell us why there are other supercars that dont ?

Do your own research for a change!  :rolleyes:
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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #337 on: 24 September 2009, 00:46 »
All the modern ones with any money behind them use a DSG box.

The little few cars a year boys struggle on with clutches and sticks.

Pagani have money.

Money doesn't buy technology though!
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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #338 on: 24 September 2009, 00:48 »
Get in the real world!! for the last time the dsg box is not the be all and end all,

Really? :rolleyes:

So why does the 1000 horsepower Bugatti Veyron ONLY use a DSG?  And why have Porsche developed their own version of the DSG - aka PDK?  What about the Mitsubishi DCT? :smug: :smug: :smug: :smug:  These are all dual-clutch automated manual transmissions! :nerd:

Why does the Zonda PS not use a DSG or DSG equivalent ?

And where did that come from? :rolleyes:

Can't you answer the question ?

I actually replied to your 'original version' of your post.  Your 'edited' post completely changed the context of what you originally wrote!  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I edited to make it a better question to ask.

Sorry, but that is NOT what the 'edit post' function is for.  Extremely bad forum manners to totally edit out the original context - w@nker! :rolleyes:


If DSG and its equivalent was that good, why wouldnt the Zonda PS use it ? I just thought as you mentioned a few supercars that use it, you may be able to tell us why there are other supercars that dont ?

Do your own research for a change!  :rolleyes:

Now now, no need to resort to name calling when you cant find an answer to my question.

Just as I suspected from you though, when a know it all doesnt have an answer, the brain doesnt know what to do.

If a manual box is good enough for Pagani, its good enough for me.


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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #339 on: 24 September 2009, 00:50 »

In park it will be parked without the ability to roll anywhere, which in neutral it could.
I understood on more typical automatic gearboxes, the 'Park' function locks the transmission of the wheels without linking the engine to the transmission, thus it stops the car rolling forward or backwards,

Nearly.  The park function actually locks the final drive crownwheel, which is locked to the engine via the locked clutches.

whilst Neutral is like neutral on a manual, just no gear so it leaves the wheels/transmission free to roll. I presume DSG works in a similar fashion. I presume also if you were being towed, you would need to put the gear into neutral otherwise you would just wreck the transmission and/or gearbox.

You cant tow a DSG at all.  It needs to be a wheel free or flat-bed lift
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