Manual or DSG?

[gossa]

Rolfe, you better figure out the difference between neutral and park BEFORE you leave it on a hill with nothing but the handbrake stopping it from going for a wander?

In park it will be parked without the ability to roll anywhere, which in neutral it could.

[Rolfe]

Ah, so it's equivalent to leaving a manual in the appropriate gear for parking on an incline?

Gotcha.

Rolfe.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

the drivers choice 

Excellent decision...

Let me guess...you sat down, looked at the pedals and lever, then remembered you are blessed with two working arms and legs? 

And so are Lewis Hamilton, Jenson Button, Fernando Alonso, et al - but they only have two pedals (one stop and one go), and change gear with flappy paddles! 

[Teutonic_Tamer]

I was following a 59 reg boxter s up fron bretagh holt roundabout.
He gunned it. 
In a manual I would not have shifted fron 6th to 2nd.
The DSG did.

Result:  A very glum looking boxter driver.

Unless you are really a racing driver the DSG is MUCH faster in real life.
Get one now before they all have one.

I suspect that it may well have been faster, dropping from 6th to 2nd...but with an aware driver who was obviously up for a 'play', what sort of pudding would have been in 6th to start with when deciding to play with a Boxster?
Not me...

You just don't get it!  With a DSG, you CAN be happily pootling along in 6th, and should your mood instantly change, floor the throttle, and the DSG WILL change to 2nd far quicker than any gifted manual driver.

So DSG may be faster...faster at spitting you into a hedge when it decides to change down right on the apex of a bend...

Wrong again, the DSG doesn't work like that, UNLESS you hit the kickdown.

Faster at disconnecting drive when you confuse it by flapping at the paddles like a performing seal...

That may be true, but you only usually do that trick once!

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Get in the real world!! for the last time the dsg box is not the be all and end all,

Really?

So why does the 1000 horsepower Bugatti Veyron ONLY use a DSG?  And why have Porsche developed their own version of the DSG - aka PDK?  What about the Mitsubishi DCT?   These are all dual-clutch automated manual transmissions!

[Teutonic_Tamer]

I don't know the difference between neutral and park.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct-Shift_Gearbox#Operation   

I'm not sure if I've met the kick-down yet or not.  I sort of suspect not, because I haven't noticed any "stop" on the accelerator pedal travel.  I think I've just noticed the ordinary change-down that will happen if you ask for more power to pull out for overtaking.  I think I may have to find a nice quiet stretch of motorway (preferably with no cop cars) to try out the kick-down.

The 'best' way to try out the kickdown > find yourself a quiet, straight, dry bit of road > drive along at about 35mph, with the stick across into the 'manual' position, and in 6th gear > now slowly press the accelerator pedal > initially, the car will just accelerate in 6th gear.  Now back off to about 35mph, but this time, press the accelerator pedal all the way to the floor > you will feel a little 'click' at the bottom of the travel > the box will probably change from 6th to 2nd, and the car will accelerate like a scolded cat!    Oh, ENJOY.

[mac7]

So why does the 1000 horsepower Bugatti Veyron ONLY use a DSG?

Now there's a question. Anyone feel up to answering that one?

[VWKev]

Get in the real world!! for the last time the dsg box is not the be all and end all,

Really?

So why does the 1000 horsepower Bugatti Veyron ONLY use a DSG?  And why have Porsche developed their own version of the DSG - aka PDK?  What about the Mitsubishi DCT?   These are all dual-clutch automated manual transmissions!

Why does the Zonda PS not use a DSG or DSG equivalent ?

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Get in the real world!! for the last time the dsg box is not the be all and end all,

Really?

So why does the 1000 horsepower Bugatti Veyron ONLY use a DSG?  And why have Porsche developed their own version of the DSG - aka PDK?  What about the Mitsubishi DCT?   These are all dual-clutch automated manual transmissions!

Why does the Zonda PS not use a DSG or DSG equivalent ?

And where did that come from?

[Teutonic_Tamer]

So why does the 1000 horsepower Bugatti Veyron ONLY use a DSG?

Now there's a question. Anyone feel up to answering that one?

The answer to that specific question is very easy!