Manual or DSG?

[Jkctr]

My low revving R32 petrol works well too!

As it happens I'm taking out an R32 DSG tomorrow - my local dealer seems pretty keen to offload it on me rather than take a deposit on the new R, but I reckon I might agree with you there - the DSG suits 'lazy' (in a good way) engines with big torque.

Enjoy, be careful though. In S (or low gears) when you floor it you just go! No waiting for the turbo or feeding the power down and up to get grip! First time i drove it i hurt my back as i floored it round a corner expecting a little slide (as my fwd ctr used to do trying to get grip) and it ripped me to the side and shot off  i was sold instantly!

[Hairy Porter]

I was following a 59 reg boxter s up fron bretagh holt roundabout.
He gunned it. 
In a manual I would not have shifted fron 6th to 2nd.
The DSG did.

Result:  A very glum looking boxter driver.

Unless you are really a racing driver the DSG is MUCH faster in real life.
Get one now before they all have one.

[Ess_Three]

I was following a 59 reg boxter s up fron bretagh holt roundabout.
He gunned it. 
In a manual I would not have shifted fron 6th to 2nd.
The DSG did.

Result:  A very glum looking boxter driver.

Unless you are really a racing driver the DSG is MUCH faster in real life.
Get one now before they all have one.

I suspect that it may well have been faster, dropping from 6th to 2nd...but with an aware driver who was obviously up for a 'play', what sort of pudding would have been in 6th to start with when deciding to play with a Boxster?
Not me...

So DSG may be faster...faster at spitting you into a hedge when it decides to change down right on the apex of a bend...

Faster at disconnecting drive when you confuse it by flapping at the paddles like a performing seal...

It maybe depends on the driver, but for me, I found progress was faster with the manual, as I knew where I was with ther car and was able to concentrate on driving rather than worrying about what the gearbox was going to decide to do next. Maybe you'd get used to it and after a period, maybe you'd adapt.
I didn't want to...I just want to get in and drive it. I'll adapt to the chassis and brakes and grip I have...but the gearbox should be a given.

To each their own, I guess.

[R32UK]

^^^ Exactly what kind of pleb would have been in 6th to start with?? 

[gizzywizzy]

What are you trying to say? that only the dsg equipped GTI would be able to take on a boxter and win!!! load of pi55 the dsg box is only a couple of seconds faster than the manual (and that is not proven) and why the f57k would anyone be in 6th and thinking of challenging for a race.  Get in the real world!! for the last time the dsg box is not the be all and end all, me? I am more than happy with my driver involving manual box.

[Hairy Porter]

Most new really fast road cars can only be bought with DSG boxes in one form or other.

Like Gordon Brown, manual is on the way out.

[R32UK]

Most new really fast road cars can only be bought with DSG boxes in one form or other.

Like Gordon Brown, manual is on the way out.

i think we have established that dsg is quicker at changing gear. deciding which gear to be in.... erm no.

If being 1/10 sec faster at changing gears is your priority then you go ahead and enjoy. I am more than comfortable in my manual doing as real drivers once did. 

[Ess_Three]

Most new really fast road cars can only be bought with DSG boxes in one form or other.

Maybe so...but a fast car that's controlled by a computer to the point that any chump can get in it and drive it, holds little allure for me.
I like the drive to be an experience. If I want to feel isolated and let the computer do all the work, I'll 'drive' on the Playstation and save myself a fortune on depreciation, road tax and insurance.
Fast does not always = fun.
Fast = fast, but with such a nannying computer safety net that other than being a complete bell-end behind the wheel, it's impossible to crash it...so the car ends up dull in most respect other than outright speed - which you are then so isolated from the sensation of, that it's boring going fast too.

There is this facination nowadays on making everything easy...lazy almost. Hence too many people 'forget' how to be aware and drive like they are in a little bubble, with their car doing much of the work.
What a sad state...

[Hairy Porter]

s3, if you really liked driving you wouldn't buy a VW Golf.
The steering is just not up to finesse.

Perhaps a Nissan GT-R or a Veyron?

[Ess_Three]

s3, if you really liked driving you wouldn't buy a VW Golf.
The steering is just not up to finesse.

Why not?
If you wanted something pratcical for the shopping run/school run, but something you can take out on the backroads for a bit of fun at weekends?

Or maybe you have something silly for weekends...and need something practical for during the week, but aren't ready to admit defeat and buy a Picasso just yet.