Manual or DSG?

[Jkctr]

See, if the GTI/R32 maual was on par with the civic type r's manual box then i would say go for it over the DSG, however any manual after that is a clunky piece of turd 

[keelaw]

See, if the GTI/R32 maual was on par with the civic type r's manual box then i would say go for it over the DSG, however any manual after that is a clunky piece of turd 

the type r gearboxes had excellent gear changes.  i'm hoping the manual golf is decent enough.

that said, i was lucky enough to try a 911's manual gearbox yesterday, tbh, it was pretty poor!  i got the wrong gear a couple of times and crunched the box once (the clutch has a really low biting point)....

[Jkctr]

I found the 911's very close to the type r's mate (was a 996 carrera 2 iirc) I tried the R32 in manual, after my type r i found it awful so new DSG was for me!

[keelaw]

hmmm... i was driving a 996 carerra 2 as well.  this was on one of those experience day things.

[Ess_Three]

the type r gearboxes had excellent gear changes.  i'm hoping the manual golf is decent enough.

that said, i was lucky enough to try a 911's manual gearbox yesterday, tbh, it was pretty poor!  i got the wrong gear a couple of times and crunched the box once (the clutch has a really low biting point)....

The clutch must be worn out, and the cables need adjusting.
They should be like a rifle blot...silky smooth, and mechanical.

In saying that, the Short Shifter can make 1st-2nd hard when the gearbox oil is cold, and it's easy to baulk between 2nd-3rd and 4th-5th...you can easily hit the dead space between 3rd and 5th...not great. The standard shift is harder to mess up, I seem to recall.

You shouldn't be able to crunch it at all...I can pretrty much flat shift in mine, with barely a tap on the clutch...and it doesn't crunch. (I'm sure it will if I keep driving like that though!).


My Integra Type R had the best gearbox I've ever used...it was sublime.

[keelaw]

dc2 or dc5?


(at risk of this turning into a type r forum!  )

[Ess_Three]

I found the 911's very close to the type r's mate (was a 996 carrera 2 iirc) I tried the R32 in manual, after my type r i found it awful so new DSG was for me!

In my view it is too...
Type-R possibly just a bit smoother...but then it doesn't have the loads to deal with, so it can be lighter in action.

I'm not a fan of VAG manual boxes in either feel or use.
Every one I've had had ended up with 2nd gear synchro wear - probably down to me trying to go accross the gate quickly with little clutch!
But, every one has gone the same way.
020, 02A, 02M...I ended up having my 02A reboilt, and sold the S3 with a clunk on the 2nd to 3rd change.

Fair enough, if you slow the shift down, they were fine...but it's mine and I want to be able to change gear as fast as I want without the gearbox destroying itself (other makers can manage it...why not VAG)...I'm thinking DSG this time around.

[Ess_Three]

dc2 or dc5?


(at risk of this turning into a type r forum!  )

DC2. Shh....!
(Probably the best car I've owned & ever driven hard. 911 is good...but breaks a lot. The ITR never broke or missed a beat, road or track.)

[herbie911]

I agreed Porsche 6 speed aren't the best in the world. (Strangely their 5 speeder is much better.) I don't think it's that bad. Maybe that the car you drove around had a very hard life. Also if the car got the shortshift option, they are notoriously difficult to use when the weather is cold. Saying this if you find a Porsche gearbox difficult to use, you can forget those from GT3, Aston, Ferrari or R8. They are a real challenge. But if you get it right, it is very satisfying! It make you feel like you are a very good driver!

I was really tempted to go for the DSG as I will use the Golf as a daily driver. After driving a manual version with ACC. I think the gearchange is good enough for me that I don't think it will be hard work to drive that car in town. Its no way near the best though! The best manual gearbox I ever experience are usually cars from Japan and France---a 2003 Civic Type-R, 306 Rallye, 106 Rallye and MX-5. Not sure whether it got something to do with low torque with these cars?

Its less convincing to buy a DSG this time
1. Same acceleration from 0-60mph. Slower in-gear acceleration. Lost 2mph topspeed (Not important in UK)
2. Use a touch more fuel and will cost more to fix

Saying this, I did tell my dealer Im happy with DSG if I can get my car earlier!

[keelaw]

not the mention the extra cost!

good or bad, i just like changing gears, hence for me DSG is out