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Offline R32UK

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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #130 on: 17 August 2009, 11:59 »
Point taken about the manual being clunky.. but this was only when new. After a couple of thousand miles it smooth as a babies butt

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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #131 on: 17 August 2009, 19:02 »
The R32 i tried wasnt mate. Possibly a dog though?

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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #132 on: 26 August 2009, 11:47 »
Oh dear... :cry:

Had an extended test drive of a GTI DSG yesterday...and ended up taking it back early because I couldn't get on with the gearbox.

Drove DSG on a 170 TDI and liked it...but on a petrol? Not for me...

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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #133 on: 26 August 2009, 12:25 »
I must admit, the one I test drove was very smooth and I was dead impressed given it has clutches and not a torque converter.  Having driven autos for the last ten years, I'm going from an auto (with steptronic) to a DSG and was happy with the instant gear change when using the paddles, compared with the second or so delay with the auto.  I realise you don't get as much control as in a manual (when booting it from a standing start, say) but I'm happy for the car to do most of the gear changes for me now, unless I feel the urge to press on a bit.
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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #134 on: 26 August 2009, 12:40 »
Oh dear... :cry:

Had an extended test drive of a GTI DSG yesterday...and ended up taking it back early because I couldn't get on with the gearbox.

Drove DSG on a 170 TDI and liked it...but on a petrol? Not for me...



Tell us more... what was it specifically you didn't get on with?



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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #135 on: 26 August 2009, 16:32 »

Tell us more... what was it specifically you didn't get on with?


In 'manual' it still changed up when it wanted to...not when I did.
Also, dropped down another gear, when I didn't want it to - came up behind a lorry in 6th, in 'manual', clicked down 2 into 4th...lorry passes, I plant the foot and am happy in 4th...but no, DSG wants 3rd, hence jarring, much revving and much swearing by the driver as car lurches about.

In 'normal' it changed up about the right point, for me...
In 'sport' it revved higher than I probably would for the load the engine was under.

Midway round a corner, in 5th, I press the accellerator to allow the boost to build and the torque to pull me through the bend...but no, it decides to drop a gear, just about on the apex of the bend...no, no, no.

I really wanted to like it...I had convinced myself I was having a DSG GTI...but 15 mins later it had me swearing...and 2 hours later pulling my hair out.

I liked it on a Mk5 GT TDI 170...maybe it just suits the lower revving, torquey diesels better?

Anyway, I came away feally deflated. I really thought I'd like it, and keen to option it...but came away with a deep hatred of it.
Horrible!

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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #136 on: 26 August 2009, 16:40 »
Quite a similar experience to what I found, but it does take practice to improve. Its almost like the car is only using the accelerator to decide which gear you should be in.

You will have more fun in the manual anyway :wink:

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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #137 on: 26 August 2009, 16:54 »
Can you get a remap for the DSG?  I'm sure I've seen people talking about these things elsewhere, they seemed to mention you could then have it hold onto the gear and not change up near the rev limit.

I bet the salesman must have really enjoyed himself in some of the test drives  :smiley: (white knuckle ride). 
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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #138 on: 26 August 2009, 16:57 »
Quite a similar experience to what I found, but it does take practice to improve. Its almost like the car is only using the accelerator to decide which gear you should be in.

I'm sure it may get 'better', or me more tolerant...but I don't want to have to get more tolerant...I want the car to do exactly as I want...not the other way round.
But, it's not going to happen.

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You will have more fun in the manual anyway :wink:

You are quite right...
Even the 'clicks' of the paddles was underwhelming. A real let down in all honestly.

No matter...despite not liking the gearbox, this long test at least allowed me to judge the car properly...and I'm impressed.
Quicker than I thought. Deceptively so really...
Be much better as a manual though...  :evil:

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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #139 on: 26 August 2009, 17:01 »
Can you get a remap for the DSG?  I'm sure I've seen people talking about these things elsewhere, they seemed to mention you could then have it hold onto the gear and not change up near the rev limit.]

Maybe...but you shouldn't have to buy a new car and immediately start putting right the wrongs...it should be just so from new. With manual, it is.
 
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I bet the salesman must have really enjoyed himself in some of the test drives  :smiley: (white knuckle ride). 

Fortunately this last test drive was a 'take it away for as long as you want, it's full of fuel...but please don't bend it' sort of un-accompanaied test drive.
The best sort...

I want to drive how I will drive my car...not how some goon in a cheap suit and plastic shoes decides I should drive.

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