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Offline cal tdi

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Re: Brakes on a ED30 Vs GTI V
« Reply #10 on: 13 February 2009, 20:18 »
has anyone tried 16" rims with gti brakes? i know 17s fit over as the gti's have these as rolling stock (didnt mean to sound american... honest)

Reason i ask is iv got 16s on mine at the moment and will be purchasing some gti brakes soon and it will be a little longer before a new set of wheels make an appearance and im desperate to bolt them on  :evil:
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Re: Brakes on a ED30 Vs GTI V
« Reply #11 on: 13 February 2009, 20:23 »
fwiw the US guys sometimes use 16" steel wheels on their gtis for winter.
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Re: Brakes on a ED30 Vs GTI V
« Reply #12 on: 13 February 2009, 20:28 »
sweet! i calculated it to be tight but wasnt sure how tight  :laugh:
alloys should clear the calipers then fingers crossed
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Re: Brakes on a ED30 Vs GTI V
« Reply #13 on: 15 February 2009, 16:39 »
has anyone tried 16" rims with gti brakes? i know 17s fit over as the gti's have these as rolling stock (didnt mean to sound american... honest)

Reason i ask is iv got 16s on mine at the moment and will be purchasing some gti brakes soon and it will be a little longer before a new set of wheels make an appearance and im desperate to bolt them on  :evil:

yes I've been using them this winter as snow chains will not fit over the 17 inch wheel (because the 225 width). Although when arriving at our resort the roads were clear enough to not need the chains..


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Re: Brakes on a ED30 Vs GTI V
« Reply #14 on: 16 February 2009, 12:35 »
Slightly off topic, but does anyone know if R32 brakes fit behind the standard 17" alloys?
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Re: Brakes on a ED30 Vs GTI V
« Reply #15 on: 16 February 2009, 22:09 »
I'd love upgraded brakes but i find the standard GTI brakes to be brilliant and really cant justify it.  How much are the front disks and pads for the GTI??  £550 for complete cupra brakes is very tempting and if the gap isnt too much i may upgrade to those when i need replacements :rolleyes:

Do the R32 disks fit under 17" wheels or are 18" needed to acommodate?

The 345mm brakes a-la R32 need 18" rims.
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Re: Brakes on a ED30 Vs GTI V
« Reply #16 on: 16 February 2009, 22:58 »
I'd love upgraded brakes but i find the standard GTI brakes to be brilliant and really cant justify it.  How much are the front disks and pads for the GTI??  £550 for complete cupra brakes is very tempting and if the gap isnt too much i may upgrade to those when i need replacements :rolleyes:

Do the R32 disks fit under 17" wheels or are 18" needed to acommodate?

The 345mm brakes a-la R32 need 18" rims.

I am not sure about that, as the pic shows below, there is a lot of room between the disc/caliper and the rim.

Although are you talking about the cooling airflow being restricted by the rim being too close?  i agree it will be very close, but may be achievable.


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Re: Brakes on a ED30 Vs GTI V
« Reply #17 on: 16 February 2009, 23:03 »
Ps ignore the soft tyre, I had been using that to supply the pressure bleeder, for 4 calipers.

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Re: Brakes on a ED30 Vs GTI V
« Reply #18 on: 16 February 2009, 23:39 »
I'd love upgraded brakes but i find the standard GTI brakes to be brilliant and really cant justify it.  How much are the front disks and pads for the GTI??  £550 for complete cupra brakes is very tempting and if the gap isnt too much i may upgrade to those when i need replacements :rolleyes:

Do the R32 disks fit under 17" wheels or are 18" needed to acommodate?

The 345mm brakes a-la R32 need 18" rims.

I am not sure about that, as the pic shows below, there is a lot of room between the disc/caliper and the rim.

Although are you talking about the cooling airflow being restricted by the rim being too close?  i agree it will be very close, but may be achievable.


Yes, but don't forget that rim is made by BBS.  On my last S4, that had the identical 345 discs and calipers (albeit with a larger diameter piston), and with the OEM standard 18" Avus III alloys made by Ronal, there was fcuk all clearance between the caliper and the wheel.

So you may be lucky and find that one style of 17" rim (from a quality manufacturer like BBS) may fit - I would still strongly suggest that you would find that many 17" rims will snag the caliper - hence the basic advice that 18"s are needed for the 345 set up.


OH, and you are running them underinflated (and yes, I have read your next post  :tongue:), there is excessive wear on the outer shoulder.  What pressure do you normally run in the fronts?
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Re: Brakes on a ED30 Vs GTI V
« Reply #19 on: 17 February 2009, 07:26 »
38.0 psi or 2.6 bar.

I check them every week, it is ingrained.  Just this wheel had been the air supply for 4 good caliper bleeds.

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