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Offline richard s

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Re: Headlamp Wiring loom upgrade
« Reply #20 on: 30 December 2008, 20:50 »
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Re: Headlamp Wiring loom upgrade
« Reply #21 on: 31 December 2008, 12:26 »
I don't want to pick fights here, but ...

it'll light the full beam filament in the main headlight as well,  as in the spot. 

The purpose of the diode is to not light both bulbs simultaneously, otherwise a bridge wire would suffice, the diode is there to prevent reverse current flow.

also haveing spot lights on with dip beam will piss other road users off but full beam as will is really takeing the piss.

The spots on a my Golf point down on the road - they are not for distance.

just as well that dioed will pop really quickly  it'll be trying to handel roughly 14 amps   the biggest commonly avalible black dioed is 3A

RS (the comp. shop I use mostly) sell about 3000 varients of diode that can sustain 50A+.

as for cabel size  100w x 4 = 400w.    400w @ 14.4 v  = 27A  id go for 2.5mm2 to carry the power.  and .75 will be more than enough to throw the relays

The +ve lead isn't running all four lamps, its two +ve cables from the batt, so 200W max. Which is about 17/18 AWG, about 1.1 mm2.

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Re: Headlamp Wiring loom upgrade
« Reply #22 on: 31 December 2008, 13:48 »
I don't want to pick fights here, but ...

it'll light the full beam filament in the main headlight as well,  as in the spot. 

The purpose of the diode is to not light both bulbs simultaneously, otherwise a bridge wire would suffice, the diode is there to prevent reverse current flow.


looking at your diagram it appears that the dioed is going from the wire shown as brown whitch i would presume is dip headlight to wire shown as yellow whicth i presumed to be main beam,   if it the other way round it will work as desired  but i still don't like that dioed,  it's costing you .6volts and it dosent even need to be there, it choudl be replaced by a pair of 0.5A dioeds on the relay.      bridge brown 86 to yellow 86 with dioed, then put another iin the yellow wire going to the relay,  sorted  cheepr and more voltas at lights


also haveing spot lights on with dip beam will piss other road users off but full beam as will is really takeing the piss.


The spots on a my Golf point down on the road - they are not for distance.


thats not going to piss other road user off then,   but a lot of thingys wouldn't think to do that


just as well that dioed will pop really quickly  it'll be trying to handel roughly 14 amps   the biggest commonly avalible black dioed is 3A

RS (the comp. shop I use mostly) sell about 3000 varients of diode that can sustain 50A+.


i use them to,   my point was that the 3A dioed was the biggest common dioed yes MUCH bigger ones are avalible but they get expensive,  i much prefer to use 2 tiny ones to make the relays do it right.  it's eating 10 watts your headlights chould have had 




as for cabel size  100w x 4 = 400w.    400w @ 14.4 v  = 27A  id go for 2.5mm2 to carry the power.  and .75 will be more than enough to throw the relays

The +ve lead isn't running all four lamps, its two +ve cables from the batt, so 200W max. Which is about 17/18 AWG, about 1.1 mm2.

depends how you make loom,   if making a left and right  1.1 would do tho you'd end up useing 1.5 as it's common,   but if making it as one whitch i'd proably do one 2.5 off the battery into one pair of relays and off to the other pair would also be fine.   i would also add another wire to the diagram, a 2.5  0V line  from the headlight bulbs back to the battery not really that inportant but car bodies arn't that good at conducting.
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Re: Headlamp Wiring loom upgrade
« Reply #23 on: 31 December 2008, 14:18 »
So I'm right ;)  :grin:

Ok, true point about putting them in with the relays - I'll rejig the diagram to make it more concise ;)

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Re: Headlamp Wiring loom upgrade
« Reply #24 on: 03 January 2009, 18:49 »
WOW!!!! Bought this kit from ebay : http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270308936524&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=017

Was £36 inc. postage, very very well made loom upgrade , clear fitting instructions and makes a massive difference to my old poo lights, they are now just as good if not better than my 2 year old vectra (company car so don't all laugh at once)

£36 well spent and I would highly recomend this particular kit if your not up to making the loom yourself (like me)

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Re: Headlamp Wiring loom upgrade
« Reply #25 on: 03 January 2009, 19:33 »
Good to hear someone's doing it right.  :smiley:
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Re: Headlamp Wiring loom upgrade
« Reply #26 on: 04 January 2009, 18:34 »
that ebay kit looks the real deal, i have the relay ect ready to make my own but for the time and effort and the fact that the ebay loom is plug and play rather than solder everywhere should make it tidy and easily removable?

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Re: Headlamp Wiring loom upgrade
« Reply #27 on: 05 January 2009, 12:52 »
You should never really solder anything in a car anyway, vibrations do strange things to it.

Making a loom is a 5 minute job max, just snip wires to length, crimp and plug in.

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Re: Headlamp Wiring loom upgrade
« Reply #28 on: 05 January 2009, 15:30 »
You should never really solder anything in a car anyway, vibrations do strange things to it.


 :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: REALLY

OK  :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:

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Re: Headlamp Wiring loom upgrade
« Reply #29 on: 05 January 2009, 18:14 »
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: REALLY

OK  :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:

Its because the heat from the soldering makes the copper wire brittle, and more likely to snap. Not that its a major issue, I've always avoided soldering when I have room to crimp.