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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Egbutt Wash on 20 October 2008, 11:26
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At motorpoint, for example...
http://www.motorpoint.co.uk/(S(z1epwyfra45klsuwaxus0o45))/Search/VehicleDetails.aspx?vehicle=199677
A DSG 5 door is less than £18,000, delivery miles.
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A DSG 5 door is less than £18,000, delivery miles.
wow.. I paid £15k for an `06 2 months ago :cry:
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I thought I had a bargain in April £19,600, new 5 dr DSG. I gave away the Honda too early!
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just been in to the honda dealer i worked for and they have knocked 2k from the new civic type r :shocked:
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I think we all know about Motorpoint, don't we? :wink:
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I paid just less than that for a 55 plate (MY 06) in March! :sad: :cry: :cry: In terms of financials I wish i had held on a couple of months. Still ...... :evil: its been fun..and mine is a fully loaded DSG, and I do love my toys....and lets face it..its not some poverty spec, potentially rust ridden, import from Cyprus....OK, i will probably get bollocked for having this opinion but there were examples of motorpoint imports showing early signs of rust and other signs that they had been sitting around for a good while in less than optimum conditions.
Ok to head off the angry replies from those with imports.....I am sure that there are fine import examples around, and I have purchased imports myself, direct from a beemer dealer mind you in Holland though not from a car supermarket.
Still bloody good value, if you think this is bad....check out the R32 prices these days!
BTW I know a bloke who only about 4 months ago bought an 08 GTI, manual! for £25k!!! :sick: :sick:
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I think we all know about Motorpoint, don't we? :wink:
My Honda actually came from Motorpoint. It was a superb car. :wink: :wink:
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Looking at it a different way I sold some HBOS shares to buy the car in April for £19,600.
If I had waited 'till today to buy a motorpoint £18,000 car the shares would only be worth £1,960.
Just enough to buy a Mk3.
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Paid 14.5 In April for an 05 :( Still, I got to have my GTI over the summer so Im glad I got it when I did. Plus I had to get rid of the MK4.
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paid 16 for my 05 with 14k 14 months ago, so i didnt do too bad i dont think, :undecided:
wouldnt sell it for any less than 16 either :tongue:
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£15999 for a GTi, rather save 2 more grand for a Edition 30 :wink: being that ive had both.
Bargain car for 16k a GTi, say that this time last year, you'd think " what planets he on"
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i looked at this outfit before buying a uk car- motorpoint source EU cars with a 2 yr manufact. wrrnty and they are pre registered at country of build ....
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Very cheap!!! but so glad I leased mine :grin:
The doo dahh was always about to hit the fan... and with petrol prices coming down 40% I think I'm laughing :cool:
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it covers the tax increase of about 35% so happy days for the R32.
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I am missing the point of this thread economy slows, people buy less cars = market forces, if the price of a new car has come down compared to what you payed so what, The only people who will benefit from this are some one buying a car without one to sell.
and people in the market looking for a GTI with no trade in.
And these people dont exist there completeth the circle.
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and with petrol prices coming down 40% I think I'm laughing :cool:
I'll believe that when I see it. Read in the paper on Saturday that supermarkets where dropping it to 99.9p but the massive tesco down the road from me is stil 106.9 :( along with everyone station in my area.
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Thats pretty cheap, although remember it is an outgoing model so VW have probably dropped the supply price to get rid of the ones they have hanging around.
Good deal for someone thats in the market for one.
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I might buy a spare one.
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Speaking to my local dealer the other day. Vw are going to round up all the Remaining group stock cars of R32's, and give dealers a further 22% discount and try and get shot of them as they are currently Bollards sat on Dealers forecourts.
Expect some rather Cheap Mk5 R's shortly, and also would mean the Mk4 version will take a hit too.
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I would trade mine in for one of those R32's however....round and round we go....prolly be lucky to get the best part of £9k for mine at trade in! The differential will always be the same and the stealer no matter what will still make their money, unless you fall into the categories as defined above there will be no benefit at all.
Just glad I have a fantastic car to drive on a day to day basis and sod the market and the dealers...could you imagine being stuck with a high end mazda or civic right now? D'Oh!
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I might buy a spare one.
:laugh: :laugh: Good idea that!! :grin:
You guys that had part ex'd back when you bought your GTI wouldn't be any better of as your part-x would be worth considerably less now too! :wink:
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I might buy a spare one.
Strip it and cage it. probably get the value of the car back for the parts you rip out.
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When i bought my ed 30 a week ago, i could have bought a silver R32 five door with leather+ 6000 miles on a feb 08 for £16800 vw uk stock. I had no part X.
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£15999 for a GTi, rather save 2 more grand for a Edition 30 :wink: being that ive had both.
Bargain car for 16k a GTi, say that this time last year, you'd think " what planets he on"
but that wouldnt be a brand new ed30??!!? :huh: and that coming from you can only really make me laugh, :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: after all, this time last year the ed30 was a waste of space??. was it not?? :huh: :laugh: :laugh:
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^^^ :grin: :grin: :laugh: :laugh: :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:^^^
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unless youve had one Joe, then you cant comment. Ive already said i was wrong and openly admitted it SEVERAL times
If the ed30 isnt worth it why are you on the look out for one, got 10k to throw ??? Cant be that different then can it? :rolleyes:
Oh and sorry save 3K and get the ed30 . More expensive then i thought
Sounding abit old that line now Joe, try and think of something else to take the p!ss
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unless youve had one Joe, then you cant comment. Ive already said i was wrong and openly admitted it SEVERAL times
If the ed30 isnt worth it why are you on the look out for one, got 10k to throw ??? Cant be that different then can it? :rolleyes:
Oh and sorry save 3K and get the ed30 . More expensive then i thought
i didnt say it it wasnt worth it!? i also didnt once say i was ever on the look out for one, :huh: :undecided: duno where you got that, i might have said in the past that id have one over the gti, which is obvious :huh:
whats 10k got to do with anything?
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unless ive got you confused with joegti, i will find the thread posted yesturday
No it was alanD that wants one, sorry thought it was you joe.
10k ment trade in value joe on yours.Thinking you were wanted to chop in etc
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£15999 for a GTi, rather save 2 more grand for a Edition 30 :wink: being that ive had both.
Bargain car for 16k a GTi, say that this time last year, you'd think " what planets he on"
but that wouldnt be a brand new ed30??!!? :huh: and that coming from you can only really make me laugh, :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: after all, this time last year the ed30 was a waste of space??. was it not?? :huh: :laugh: :laugh:
I am with you. I remember PM saying how meaningless E30 was. Not he in earnest protects its honor. :grin: If he'd only get it remapped, then we'd have another convert in 300hp club. :cool:
PM, trust me (and countless others) - 300hp in E30 is worth it! Especially in Britain where it is dirt cheap!
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£15999 for a GTi, rather save 2 more grand for a Edition 30 :wink: being that ive had both.
Bargain car for 16k a GTi, say that this time last year, you'd think " what planets he on"
but that wouldnt be a brand new ed30??!!? :huh: and that coming from you can only really make me laugh, :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: after all, this time last year the ed30 was a waste of space??. was it not?? :huh: :laugh: :laugh:
I am with you. I remember PM saying how meaningless E30 was. Not he in earnest protects its honor. :grin: If he'd only get it remapped, then we'd have another convert in 300hp club.
why would i want to Peskarik when youve just admitted the cars Not Drivable in 1st and 2nd Gears????? :rolleyes:
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£15999 for a GTi, rather save 2 more grand for a Edition 30 :wink: being that ive had both.
Bargain car for 16k a GTi, say that this time last year, you'd think " what planets he on"
but that wouldnt be a brand new ed30??!!? :huh: and that coming from you can only really make me laugh, :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: after all, this time last year the ed30 was a waste of space??. was it not?? :huh: :laugh: :laugh:
I am with you. I remember PM saying how meaningless E30 was. Not he in earnest protects its honor. :grin: If he'd only get it remapped, then we'd have another convert in 300hp club.
why would i want to Peskarik when youve just admitted the cars Not Drivable in 1st and 2nd Gears????? :rolleyes:
Trust me a 300 + bhp ED30 is a lot more fun than a 237 bhp one :laugh:
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unless ive got you confused with joegti, i will find the thread posted yesturday
No it was alanD that wants one, sorry thought it was you joe.
10k ment trade in value joe on yours.Thinking you were wanted to chop in etc
HAHAHAHA you think id ever bend over and let VWsales shaft me with some stupid trade price :grin: :grin: :grin: why would i want to loose 6k in 13months!! im 22 so 6k is ALOT of money to me :tongue:
ive been offered over 14k on 2 seperate ocasions of 2 seperate people in the last 6 months, and still said no. I AINT SELLIN :laugh: :laugh:
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Definatly some bargains to be had out there with the old credit crunch. :shocked: :smiley:
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£15999 for a GTi, rather save 2 more grand for a Edition 30 :wink: being that ive had both.
Bargain car for 16k a GTi, say that this time last year, you'd think " what planets he on"
but that wouldnt be a brand new ed30??!!? :huh: and that coming from you can only really make me laugh, :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: after all, this time last year the ed30 was a waste of space??. was it not?? :huh: :laugh: :laugh:
I am with you. I remember PM saying how meaningless E30 was. Not he in earnest protects its honor. :grin: If he'd only get it remapped, then we'd have another convert in 300hp club.
why would i want to Peskarik when youve just admitted the cars Not Drivable in 1st and 2nd Gears????? :rolleyes:
it is fully drivable in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and especially 4th-6th gears! :evil:
But you cannot cane it in 1st and 2nd, because of crazy wheel hop, especially on uneven or wet surface. :lipsrsealed:
But being FWD with 300hp and 1357kg of weight, one really feels bhp/weight advantages wasted in 1st and 2nd, compared to other cars. What can I say, once you experience the acceleration in 6th gear from 4000 rpm in a 300bhp ED30, you'd understand what is wasted in 1st and 2nd gear, all due to FWD.
BTW, standard ED30's in-gear times are very similar to 135i (stock), imagine how faster than 135i 300hp E30 is! (again, in-gear. from standing start E30 is dead meat) :smiley:
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Also, we all know the expression "there is no replacement for displacement" as it was coined by Mr. Oettinger in fact, way back when...
Still valid today though.
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my personal opinion is for day to day driving, im happy with its power, if i remap, im into licence loosing territory being able to "use 4000rpm in 6th".I already have a mate who owns an edition30 serving a driving ban for speeding in his "300"bhp :undecided: Ed30 trying to pass some Suburu in the process. (black one on Pistonheads a little while ago).
For track day usage, couldnt agree more, the car will certainly go like a steam train, but for a family runner as i have 2 kids under 6 , its not high on my priority list.
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£15999 for a GTi, rather save 2 more grand for a Edition 30 :wink: being that ive had both.
Bargain car for 16k a GTi, say that this time last year, you'd think " what planets he on"
but that wouldnt be a brand new ed30??!!? :huh: and that coming from you can only really make me laugh, :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: after all, this time last year the ed30 was a waste of space??. was it not?? :huh: :laugh: :laugh:
I am with you. I remember PM saying how meaningless E30 was. Not he in earnest protects its honor. :grin: If he'd only get it remapped, then we'd have another convert in 300hp club.
why would i want to Peskarik when youve just admitted the cars Not Drivable in 1st and 2nd Gears????? :rolleyes:
Trust me a 300 + bhp ED30 is a lot more fun than a 237 bhp one :laugh:
Been in a Blufin one recently at JKM, and the only i liked was the milltek sound T88OMM . :wink:
And performance, well going against another Bluefin ed30 manual at Speed, side by side untill around 80mph, it wasnt really enough to make my draw drop, as i was only loosing 10 yards over 500 yards stretch beyond that. Isnt really exactly Blitzing a standard car nor making it "much more Fun" as you put it T88OMM :rolleyes:
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Are you trying to convince us or yourself Phil :grin: :grin:
I know i tell you alot about remaping but i dont mean to get on to you about it chap, the choice is yours of course and its good you can enjoy the car in its standard form, and i also do see your point about power, as i generally feel allot more relaxed and less likely to do anything daft in the wifes car
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Are you trying to convince us or yourself Phil :grin: :grin:
I know i tell you alot about remaping but i dont mean to get on to you about it chap, the choice is yours of course and its good you can enjoy the car in its standard form, and i also do see your point about power, as i generally feel allot more relaxed and less likely to do anything daft in the wifes car
i dont need too, im happy with the way she is thankyou, and glad you see my point, especially when i have 2 babys in the car. :smiley:
unless ive got you confused with joegti, i will find the thread posted yesturday
No it was alanD that wants one, sorry thought it was you joe.
10k ment trade in value joe on yours.Thinking you were wanted to chop in etc
HAHAHAHA you think id ever bend over and let VWsales shaft me with some stupid trade price :grin: :grin: :grin: why would i want to loose 6k in 13months!! im 22 so 6k is ALOT of money to me :tongue:
ive been offered over 14k on 2 seperate ocasions of 2 seperate people in the last 6 months, and still said no. I AINT SELLIN :laugh: :laugh:
He must be a good mate to offer you that, Times are alot harder then a few months ago
http://www.whatcar.co.uk/valuation-summary.aspx?MA=44&MV=25304&ED=46603&UP=1737193&ML=30000
Pointless but just goes to show and shockingly worrying how much our cars are losing their what was" good Residuals".
I hope this trade In market improves soon . Its a bitter pill to swallow if you looking to change. :sad:
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neither of them were friends, one actually saw my car posted on this site :rolleyes:
as for phil and a remap, its getting very VERY boring. he aint going to, so stop trying to blag him everyday, everybody :tongue:
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neither of them were friends, one actually saw my car posted on this site :rolleyes:
as for phil and a remap, its getting very VERY boring. he aint going to, so stop trying to blag him everyday, everybody :tongue:
Hallejuhah!
cheers Joe :smiley:
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and with petrol prices coming down 40% I think I'm laughing :cool:
I'll believe that when I see it. Read in the paper on Saturday that supermarkets where dropping it to 99.9p but the massive tesco down the road from me is stil 106.9 :( along with everyone station in my area.
My local has been at 99.9 since last Thursday.. With me getting a nice average of 27mpg since calming down a little I think Im doing quite well.
As for when my car lease expires late next year, I will be in the market for a new car with no car to part ex. Sounds like it will be a perfect time to buy if things keep going the way they are :cool:
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and with petrol prices coming down 40% I think I'm laughing :cool:
I'll believe that when I see it. Read in the paper on Saturday that supermarkets where dropping it to 99.9p but the massive tesco down the road from me is stil 106.9 :( along with everyone station in my area.
My local has been at 99.9 since last Thursday.. With me getting a nice average of 27mpg since calming down a little I think Im doing quite well.
As for when my car lease expires late next year, I will be in the market for a new car with no car to part ex. Sounds like it will be a perfect time to buy if things keep going the way they are :cool:
The only fly in your ointment R32 is that the leasing company's are currently paying very high interest rates to their lenders which is keeping prices steady :sad:
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and with petrol prices coming down 40% I think I'm laughing :cool:
I'll believe that when I see it. Read in the paper on Saturday that supermarkets where dropping it to 99.9p but the massive tesco down the road from me is stil 106.9 :( along with everyone station in my area.
My local has been at 99.9 since last Thursday.. With me getting a nice average of 27mpg since calming down a little I think Im doing quite well.
As for when my car lease expires late next year, I will be in the market for a new car with no car to part ex. Sounds like it will be a perfect time to buy if things keep going the way they are :cool:
The only fly in your ointment R32 is that the leasing company's are currently paying very high interest rates to their lenders which is keeping prices steady :sad:
It strange how many people have noticed that R32's are sat on forecourts not selling. Havent seen that happening at my 2 local dealers. Prices have remaind quite stable and seem to be shifting fine. Im hoping for a drop over the next year to be honest :lipsrsealed:
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and with petrol prices coming down 40% I think I'm laughing :cool:
I'll believe that when I see it. Read in the paper on Saturday that supermarkets where dropping it to 99.9p but the massive tesco down the road from me is stil 106.9 :( along with everyone station in my area.
My local has been at 99.9 since last Thursday.. With me getting a nice average of 27mpg since calming down a little I think Im doing quite well.
As for when my car lease expires late next year, I will be in the market for a new car with no car to part ex. Sounds like it will be a perfect time to buy if things keep going the way they are :cool:
The only fly in your ointment R32 is that the leasing company's are currently paying very high interest rates to their lenders which is keeping prices steady :sad:
It strange how many people have noticed that R32's are sat on forecourts not selling. Havent seen that happening at my 2 local dealers. Prices have remaind quite stable and seem to be shifting fine. Im hoping for a drop over the next year to be honest :lipsrsealed:
there was in Derby when i last went, i could have had a same age r32 for less than the ed30, that said my Notts dealer has had an nearly new Gti for months and have dropped the pice by 4k since they first advertised it :shocked:
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I'd love to see Phil Mc with a 300bhp car, but I know for him it isn't on his radar. Now when he has the "loose change" for the milly and (maybe) an intake, he'll be happy as I know it is the sound he loves :evil:
May even free up a couple of those horsies that RR is looking for :wink:
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£15999 for a GTi, rather save 2 more grand for a Edition 30 :wink: being that ive had both.
Bargain car for 16k a GTi, say that this time last year, you'd think " what planets he on"
but that wouldnt be a brand new ed30??!!? :huh: and that coming from you can only really make me laugh, :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: after all, this time last year the ed30 was a waste of space??. was it not?? :huh: :laugh: :laugh:
I am with you. I remember PM saying how meaningless E30 was. Not he in earnest protects its honor. :grin: If he'd only get it remapped, then we'd have another convert in 300hp club.
why would i want to Peskarik when youve just admitted the cars Not Drivable in 1st and 2nd Gears????? :rolleyes:
Trust me a 300 + bhp ED30 is a lot more fun than a 237 bhp one :laugh:
Been in a Blufin one recently at JKM, and the only i liked was the milltek sound T88OMM . :wink:
And performance, well going against another Bluefin ed30 manual at Speed, side by side untill around 80mph, it wasnt really enough to make my draw drop, as i was only loosing 10 yards over 500 yards stretch beyond that. Isnt really exactly Blitzing a standard car nor making it "much more Fun" as you put it T88OMM :rolleyes:
From what I hear the Bluefin is a relatively tame map (correct me if im wrong). The difference between my car now and when it was standard is night and day. I have had other performance modifications i.e. Milltek and fuel pump, that add power on top of the remap. My car is probably in excess of 315 BHP and it is an absolute hoot to drive. Im not trying to prove anything at all here Phil I am just trying to express my point of view. You have probably got a few years on me so maybe when I get to your age I may think differently :smiley:
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my personal opinion is for day to day driving, im happy with its power, if i remap, im into licence loosing territory being able to "use 4000rpm in 6th".I already have a mate who owns an edition30 serving a driving ban for speeding in his "300"bhp :undecided: Ed30 trying to pass some Suburu in the process. (black one on Pistonheads a little while ago).
For track day usage, couldnt agree more, the car will certainly go like a steam train, but for a family runner as i have 2 kids under 6 , its not high on my priority list.
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but you miss quite some fun!
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my personal opinion is for day to day driving, im happy with its power, if i remap, im into licence loosing territory being able to "use 4000rpm in 6th".I already have a mate who owns an edition30 serving a driving ban for speeding in his "300"bhp :undecided: Ed30 trying to pass some Suburu in the process. (black one on Pistonheads a little while ago).
For track day usage, couldnt agree more, the car will certainly go like a steam train, but for a family runner as i have 2 kids under 6 , its not high on my priority list.
4000rpm in 6th is very deep in license losing territory, true. Maybe even in prison-sentence territory already
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and with petrol prices coming down 40% I think I'm laughing :cool:
I'll believe that when I see it. Read in the paper on Saturday that supermarkets where dropping it to 99.9p but the massive tesco down the road from me is stil 106.9 :( along with everyone station in my area.
My local has been at 99.9 since last Thursday.. With me getting a nice average of 27mpg since calming down a little I think Im doing quite well.
As for when my car lease expires late next year, I will be in the market for a new car with no car to part ex. Sounds like it will be a perfect time to buy if things keep going the way they are :cool:
in Britain car sales are falling.
In Switzerland they are rising, so no "steal of the century" here :sad:
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and with petrol prices coming down 40% I think I'm laughing :cool:
I'll believe that when I see it. Read in the paper on Saturday that supermarkets where dropping it to 99.9p but the massive tesco down the road from me is stil 106.9 :( along with everyone station in my area.
My local has been at 99.9 since last Thursday.. With me getting a nice average of 27mpg since calming down a little I think Im doing quite well.
As for when my car lease expires late next year, I will be in the market for a new car with no car to part ex. Sounds like it will be a perfect time to buy if things keep going the way they are :cool:
in Britain car sales are falling.
In Switzerland they are rising, so no "steal of the century" here :sad:
Really?? you might want to pop over here and take back some of those imports which have flooded the market!! :grin:
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could you imagine being stuck with a high end mazda or civic right now? D'Oh!
Nope. I'd rather brake my back and chew my own testicles before owning a mazda or honda. :sick:
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Also, we all know the expression "there is no replacement for displacement" as it was coined by Mr. Oettinger in fact, way back when...
Still valid today though.
Is 4.2 litres of V8 growl enough! :evil: :evil:
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http://www.whatcar.co.uk/valuation-summary.aspx?MA=44&MV=25304&ED=46603&UP=1737193&ML=30000
Pointless but just goes to show and shockingly worrying how much our cars are losing their what was" good Residuals".
But think how much more you would lose with a Ford Asbo, Astra VXR, - or dread to think on some french or jap stuff.
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and with petrol prices coming down 40% I think I'm laughing :cool:
I'll believe that when I see it. Read in the paper on Saturday that supermarkets where dropping it to 99.9p but the massive tesco down the road from me is stil 106.9 :( along with everyone station in my area.
My local has been at 99.9 since last Thursday..
But your R32 runs on the agricultural poverty spec normal unleaded. Us GTI chaps, and chapesses need a much more refined brew! :tongue: :laugh: :grin:
Actually, log onto www.PetrolPrices.com and create your own account - because Sainsburys SuperUnleaded is now 102.9, and Tesco 99 is 104.9 - another week or two and Super will below a quid.
With me getting a nice average of 27mpg since calming down a little I think Im doing quite well.
Strewth, I can do much better than that in my mighty RS4 !!! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
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and with petrol prices coming down 40% I think I'm laughing :cool:
I'll believe that when I see it. Read in the paper on Saturday that supermarkets where dropping it to 99.9p but the massive tesco down the road from me is stil 106.9 :( along with everyone station in my area.
My local has been at 99.9 since last Thursday..
But your R32 runs on the agricultural poverty spec normal unleaded. Us GTI chaps, and chapesses need a much more refined brew! :tongue: :laugh: :grin:
Actually, log onto www.PetrolPrices.com and create your own account - because Sainsburys SuperUnleaded is now 102.9, and Tesco 99 is 104.9 - another week or two and Super will below a quid.
With me getting a nice average of 27mpg since calming down a little I think Im doing quite well.
Strewth, I can do much better than that in my mighty RS4 !!! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
Bloody hell TT, 27mpg from an RS4, what you doing!? Pushing it and letting it idle :grin: I rarely get above 25mpg in mine :shocked:
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and with petrol prices coming down 40% I think I'm laughing :cool:
I'll believe that when I see it. Read in the paper on Saturday that supermarkets where dropping it to 99.9p but the massive tesco down the road from me is stil 106.9 :( along with everyone station in my area.
My local has been at 99.9 since last Thursday..
But your R32 runs on the agricultural poverty spec normal unleaded. Us GTI chaps, and chapesses need a much more refined brew! :tongue: :laugh: :grin:
Actually, log onto www.PetrolPrices.com and create your own account - because Sainsburys SuperUnleaded is now 102.9, and Tesco 99 is 104.9 - another week or two and Super will below a quid.
With me getting a nice average of 27mpg since calming down a little I think Im doing quite well.
Strewth, I can do much better than that in my mighty RS4 !!! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
I can get 30.. but where is the fun in that??
I should upgrade to an RS4 but being young will probably get mistaken for an over paid banker... :embarassed:
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£15999 for a GTi, rather save 2 more grand for a Edition 30 :wink: being that ive had both.
Bargain car for 16k a GTi, say that this time last year, you'd think " what planets he on"
but that wouldnt be a brand new ed30??!!? :huh: and that coming from you can only really make me laugh, :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: after all, this time last year the ed30 was a waste of space??. was it not?? :huh: :laugh: :laugh:
I am with you. I remember PM saying how meaningless E30 was. Not he in earnest protects its honor. :grin: If he'd only get it remapped, then we'd have another convert in 300hp club.
why would i want to Peskarik when youve just admitted the cars Not Drivable in 1st and 2nd Gears????? :rolleyes:
Trust me a 300 + bhp ED30 is a lot more fun than a 237 bhp one :laugh:
Been in a Blufin one recently at JKM, and the only i liked was the milltek sound T88OMM . :wink:
And performance, well going against another Bluefin ed30 manual at Speed, side by side untill around 80mph, it wasnt really enough to make my draw drop, as i was only loosing 10 yards over 500 yards stretch beyond that. Isnt really exactly Blitzing a standard car nor making it "much more Fun" as you put it T88OMM :rolleyes:
From what I hear the Bluefin is a relatively tame map (correct me if im wrong). The difference between my car now and when it was standard is night and day. I have had other performance modifications i.e. Milltek and fuel pump, that add power on top of the remap. My car is probably in excess of 315 BHP and it is an absolute hoot to drive. Im not trying to prove anything at all here Phil I am just trying to express my point of view.You have probably got a few years on me so maybe when I get to your age I may think differently :smiley:
Yes when you have 2 babys to think about, prioritys change somewhat. Oh to be 22 and Family free, then maybe a 400hp GTi Ed30 would wee all over everyone elses GTi's :evil: :evil: Then ill race ya!! :smiley:
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could you imagine being stuck with a high end mazda or civic right now? D'Oh!
Nope. I'd rather brake my back and chew my own testicles before owning a mazda or honda. :sick:
What did Clarkson call Audi drivers?
You would be much better buying a £16,000 GTI AND a really nice motorhome for the cost of an expensive A4.
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With me getting a nice average of 27mpg since calming down a little I think Im doing quite well.
Strewth, I can do much better than that in my mighty RS4 !!! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
Bloody hell TT, 27mpg from an RS4, what you doing!? Pushing it and letting it idle :grin: I rarely get above 25mpg in mine :shocked:
It is actually reasonably easy to get an average of around 32mpg from my RS4, whereas with my last S4 (same engine capacity, but less ponies and no FSI) I really struggled to get 27mpg. What really helps, appart from the FSI, is the fact that the large 4.2 litre displacement provides absolutely masses of torque from nigh-on tickover (90% of the total 430Nm is available from 2250rpm). If I just left it in sixth gear, it can trundle along at 20mph (without any driveline shudder), and go all the way upto 170mph - how many diesels can do that? :tongue:
If you read my sig though, you will see how low I can get my RS4 - last year in Germany, on a long high speed run with a few v-maxes, I emptied the 63 litre tank in just 110 miles! :shocked:
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With me getting a nice average of 27mpg since calming down a little I think Im doing quite well.
Strewth, I can do much better than that in my mighty RS4 !!! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
I can get 30.. but where is the fun in that??
Don't you like to appreciate the silky smooth feel of your lovely VR6 engine at low revs? That is one of the really interesting things about your engine - at tick-over, it is so smooth and quiet, you don't actually realise that the engine is running. Then keeping it below about 2-2½k revs, still nice, tame, quiet and refined - yet open her up, and at the upper ends of the rev-range, turns into a bit of a beast! :tongue:
And I'll stick my neck on the line again - the VR6 engine is considerably more refined than the BMW straight six engines. That comment will probably pi$$ off a few Bavaria fans. :smiley:
I should upgrade to an RS4 but being young will probably get mistaken for an over paid banker... :embarassed:
I though you said something else then! :grin: Anyway, what is wrong with a bit of personal self stimulation? :wink: :evil: My taxi has arrived . . .
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Must say the low down torque is a wonderful thing.. esp when I have my parents in the car, 6th gear at 25mph no problem.
Dont know about anyone else but the number of times I have tried to change up without realising im already in 6th. :huh: Good to have lots power available at any time :cool:
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could you imagine being stuck with a high end mazda or civic right now? D'Oh!
Nope. I'd rather brake my back and chew my own testicles before owning a mazda or honda. :sick:
What did Clarkson call Audi drivers?
You would be much better buying a £16,000 GTI AND a really nice motorhome for the cost of an expensive A4.
You really are a tw@t, arn't you? Don't you know that it is actually Audi who develop many of the components and technologies which then get used by Volkswagen (along with Å koda and Seat). If it wern't for Audi, VW would not have FSI or curtain airbags, which we have in our current GTIs, nor would any VWs have four wheel drive. If it wern't for Audi, the upcoming Mk6 GTI and the new Rocco would not have the chain driven cam technology, nor variable exhaust valve timing, nor adaptive suspension. Audi are a serious partner in the Volkswagen Group stable, and for anyone to "blanket" dis Audi is seriously deluded.
And on to your second comment, how the fcuk would either of your suggestions manage 170mph on the German A-bahns, or whip the ar$es of most other "sports cars" on the road, such as most Porsches (or "wannabes" such as MX5s, RX8s, MGTFs, Honda S2000s) - whilst on the same trip being able to carry five people in extreme comfort and safety, and all their luggage in that massive boot?
Yes, a GTI may be able to do some of those things, even in standard form. But compared to any Audi A4, the boot on the Golf is noticeably smaller (so I'd be severly limited on the amount of wine to bring home :tongue:). To get a standard GTI (and not an Ed30) to reach 170mph in a reliable and refined manner would take some seriously expensive and major modifications - and you still would not have that glorious V8 soundtrack.
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At 170 mph you would get about 6 mpg.
You would be better off buying the wine at Oddbins.
I do agree with Clarkson, as your last rant proves.
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At 170 mph you would get about 6 mpg.
You would be better off buying the wine at Oddbins.
I do agree with Clarkson, as your last rant proves.
Egbert you know this will end in tears whats the point. :sad:
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Following my own advice on the JKW thread, I'll shut up now.
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Following my own advice on the JKW thread, I'll shut up now.
Thats good advice right there, you know things are a bit sensetive right now and we all know your trying to gode him into getting put on the naughty boy step, so lets get back to a snipe free zone. :wink:
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At 170 mph you would get about 6 mpg.
Erm - try reading my sig. Just incase you have difficulties, at v-max, I get 9.8mph . . . :rolleyes:
I do agree with Clarkson, as your last rant proves.
Mods/Admins - any chance of pressing that "ban" button, yet again for this tool? :sad:
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Handbags at dawn :kiss:
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He's never been banned, just had duplicate accounts deleted. I tend to ignore trolls so generally just skip past his posts in a thread. When people do the same he occasionally; when his ego allows it, posts something of worth.
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He's never been banned, just had duplicate accounts deleted. I tend to ignore trolls so generally just skip past his posts in a thread. When people do the same he occasionally; when his ego allows it, posts something of worth.
As Ringo says, "Peace and love, peace and love"
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im sure this thred was locked??!! :huh:
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They have come down by £2. At £15,997 now.
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im sure this thred was locked??!! :huh:
I locked it for a bit to let TT cool down.
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e a mate who owns an edition30 serving a driving ban for speeding in his "300"bhp :undecided: Ed30 trying to pass some Suburu in the process. (black one on Pistonheads a little while ago).
How fast was he going?
I'm a bit gutted that I could have saved more money if I'd delayed my purchase by two months. No wait, I'm not! I've had two months of fun with this car and I don't care if I'm paying through the nose for it!
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If you had left that money in shares rather than buying the VW you could now buy a Ford Ka with it.
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If you had left that money in shares rather than buying the VW you could now buy a Ford Ka with it.
Nah what'd I'd do with a ford ka? I'd be downgrading from a ford fiesta!
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If you had left that money in shares rather than buying the VW you could now buy a Ford Ka with it.
Nah what'd I'd do with a ford ka? I'd be downgrading from a ford fiesta!
Save up for the other foot obviously! :laugh:
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If you had left that money in shares rather than buying the VW you could now buy a Ford Ka with it.
Nah what'd I'd do with a ford ka? I'd be downgrading from a ford fiesta!
Save up for the other foot obviously! :laugh:
:grin:
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e a mate who owns an edition30 serving a driving ban for speeding in his "300"bhp :undecided: Ed30 trying to pass some Suburu in the process. (black one on Pistonheads a little while ago).
How fast was he going?
I'm a bit gutted that I could have saved more money if I'd delayed my purchase by two months. No wait, I'm not! I've had two months of fun with this car and I don't care if I'm paying through the nose for it!
yes, you are, :rolleyes: because:
1) you talk about it
2) you say things like "pay thru the nose"
Don't worry about it, it already happened, and you cannot change a thing.
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Audis are great, but they cost. Question is, are they cost-effective enough?
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Audis are great, but they cost. Question is, are they cost-effective enough?
Must be... see enough if the darn things on the road :undecided:
(dont mind the rs4 of course T-T :grin:)
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Audis are great, but they cost. Question is, are they cost-effective enough?
Must be... see enough if the darn things on the road :undecided:
(dont mind the rs4 of course T-T :grin:)
I like RS4 Saloon a lot! But I don't dig NA engines generally.
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yes, you are, :rolleyes: because:
1) you talk about it
2) you say things like "pay thru the nose"
Don't worry about it, it already happened, and you cannot change a thing.
Well technically, I was gutted but not any more, especially when I realised the fun I'd had in the last two months of ownership.
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and with petrol prices coming down 40% I think I'm laughing :cool:
I'll believe that when I see it. Read in the paper on Saturday that supermarkets where dropping it to 99.9p but the massive tesco down the road from me is stil 106.9 :( along with everyone station in my area.
My local has been at 99.9 since last Thursday.. With me getting a nice average of 27mpg since calming down a little I think Im doing quite well.
As for when my car lease expires late next year, I will be in the market for a new car with no car to part ex. Sounds like it will be a perfect time to buy if things keep going the way they are :cool:
The only fly in your ointment R32 is that the leasing company's are currently paying very high interest rates to their lenders which is keeping prices steady :sad:
It strange how many people have noticed that R32's are sat on forecourts not selling. Havent seen that happening at my 2 local dealers. Prices have remaind quite stable and seem to be shifting fine. Im hoping for a drop over the next year to be honest :lipsrsealed:
there was in Derby when i last went, i could have had a same age r32 for less than the ed30, that said my Notts dealer has had an nearly new Gti for months and have dropped the pice by 4k since they first advertised it :shocked:
Yeah i seen that at derby vw also. I reckon when i went i saw 2 r32 around 14k 15k.
I really want one or a gti. Damm being 23 lol.
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Petrol down to 98.9 yesterday.. filled up for a measly £53!!! :grin: :grin:
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Petrol down to 98.9 yesterday.. filled up for a measly £53!!! :grin: :grin:
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