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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: gtichina on 04 May 2007, 17:45
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Hello buddies, I m in China, a new comer here. Found this GTI nutter joyland by chance. I just bought a MK V GTI, 200hp. It costs me alot of bucks, you know, really expensive in China. It sells bad, you know, most Chinese would rather spend this sum of money on an Audi A6 or a BMW3. But for us GTI nutters, things change... Now I m thinking of tuning my GTI up to 280hp or 310hp. I got a couple of choices:
1) Oettinger 2) ABT 3) MTM 4) Wetterauer
Either of the above is German professional in tuning the GTI and offers a complete kit including turbo upgrade, body trimming, alloy+tire, brake system... ABT has its advantage thanks to its dealer in China. However I personally prefer Oettinger or Wetterauer as they provide more power and better looks.
So it seems hard to choose and I need your advices. Can anyone give me some info from your tuning experience? Thanks alot. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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This is not a tuners' forum, really!
Go check this site instead: http://www.golfmkv.com/
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Peskarik, I dunno about your last comment, as there seems to have been quite a few posts recently regarding tuning.
gtichina, in terms of looks, could you not get your body and rims mail order from one supplier, and the engine tuning package from another?
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Peskarik, I dunno about your last comment, as there seems to have been quite a few posts recently regarding tuning.
gtichina, in terms of looks, could you not get your body and rims mail order from one supplier, and the engine tuning package from another?
a few, yes. But it is all relative! On US site it seems everyone is tuning his/her golf, one way or the other.
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More tuning here:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zeroforum?id=142
Must admit, I prefer my GTI totally standard :wink:
Cass
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Be careful! had my bmw 320D remapped at 37K miles, turbo went at 39K , filled CAT with oil , 2 weeks out of warranty, luckily BMW coughed up!, another turbo put in, injector went at 46k, then another at 52k both £400 +, took car in for service at 60k told turbo on its way out only done 23k since replaced.
said " top it up with oil and im off to VW" hence bought a GTI.
GTI petrol not diesel so maybe better but I wouldnt mess with the original, save up and get an ED30
A full stainless steel exhuast inc down pipe and sports CAT will give around 20 bhp with no side effects.
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Be careful! had my bmw 320D remapped at 37K miles, turbo went at 39K , filled CAT with oil , 2 weeks out of warranty, luckily BMW coughed up!, another turbo put in, injector went at 46k, then another at 52k both £400 +, took car in for service at 60k told turbo on its way out only done 23k since replaced.
said " top it up with oil and im off to VW" hence bought a GTI.
GTI petrol not diesel so maybe better but I wouldnt mess with the original, save up and get an ED30
A full stainless steel exhuast inc down pipe and sports CAT will give around 20 bhp with no side effects.
vws have sh!te maps, sort it out with a good remap, but if you're gonna go down the big turbo route, get some decent internals before.
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Erh sharpie, got any spare pills??? :laugh:
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Erh sharpie, got any spare pills??? :laugh:
lol - you and your vendetta. shame you don't seem to have a clue so shh :lipsrsealed:
your car is what.. 200bhp? with a decent map and no engine work you'd see 240+
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Sorry sharpie, dont like your comment about not having a clue, Was previously a Marine Engineer Tech for 10 years so i do have some Clue what im talking about when it comes to engines and Transmission systems.
With answer to your 2nd Question:
i prefer to leave it standard,(aprt from Colour coding) dont fancy a nice looking car with no warrantee when blowing the engine to bits, or voiding my car insurance in a prang, or paying higher fuel costs, or higher insurance if i tell the insurance company, all for what 0.5 of a second at most. No thanks Sharpie, id rather stare at your good looking photo then risking it , Tough desision! cheers :laugh: :wink:
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Sorry sharpie, dont like your comment about not having a clue, Was previously a Marine Engineer Tech for 10 years so i do have some Clue what im talking about when it comes to engines and Transmission systems.
With answer to your 2nd Question:
i prefer to leave it standard,(aprt from Colour coding) dont fancy a nice looking car with no warrantee when blowing the engine to bits, or voiding my car insurance in a prang, or paying higher fuel costs, or higher insurance if i tell the insurance company, all for what 0.5 of a second at most. No thanks Sharpie, id rather stare at your good looking photo then risking it , Tough desision! cheers :laugh: :wink:
didnae really want to start an argument pal - but i'll answer this post, but only as i believe it may be of use to the guy who started this topic (and as a wee reminder - i don't think this topic was about your car anyway :wink:)
a remap wouldn't 'blow the engine to bits' because they've been tried and tested on other vag cars. think of the newest polo gti (130bhp), mk4 golf gti (150 then 180bhp with the anni) and mk1 audi tt 1.8 (220bhp). all have the same 1.8T engine (also found in leon/ibiza cupras too etc), but different maps.
a remap is pretty much undectable - little to no chance of this getting flagged up and voiding your warranty, but obviously is a good idea to tell your insurance - in which case the increase in power is well worth it (imo of course)
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ok fair point mate, :wink:
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Not sure where this fits in this thread, but from personal experience I'd think carefully about re-mapping.
My last car was a 2005 GolfV GT TDi (140 Bhp). I had it 'chipped' to 170 Bhp and the results were outstanding in the short term. It was pretty rapid and the car seem much smoother and more economical too.
Within 1000 miles a load bang and severe vibration occured under accelleration... turnred out one of the cast engine-mounting brackets had sheared causing the engine to drop on one side. Luckily this was replaced under warranty. I was crapping myself incase VW investigated the cause. Perhaps a little paranoid? :undecided:
Then after another 1000 miles the turbo became very noisy once the engine was hot. :cry:
I then decided enough was enough and I part-exed it for the GTi :wink:
So, short term = big yes, Long term = erm???
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Not sure where this fits in this thread, but from personal experience I'd think carefully about re-mapping.
My last car was a 2005 GolfV GT TDi (140 Bhp). I had it 'chipped' to 170 Bhp and the results were outstanding in the short term. It was pretty rapid and the car seem much smoother and more economical too.
did you get a proper remap? i'd imagine diesels would be different anyway, ken a guy with a remapped bora diesel that was smokey as anything (but quick - haha)
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did you get a proper remap?
Well it was Superchips, done by AB Motorsport in Leamington Spa...
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did you get a proper remap?
Well it was Superchips, done by AB Motorsport in Leamington Spa...
Don't let TT see that!!! :lipsrsealed: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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did you get a proper remap?
Well it was Superchips, done by AB Motorsport in Leamington Spa...
Don't let TT see that!!! :lipsrsealed: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
take any remap, there bound to be ocasional flops. Revo, APR... people do REVO and then their DVs go...
there are people that have used superchips for years without problems.
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50,000 miles in my mk4 on a revo remap (engine now at 106k) and not one problem because of it. We've all heard the horror stories, they're usually a result of bad software or driving like a tw@t, not warming up/cooling down properly etc. You'd be very unlucky to have problems caused by a map from a reputable tuning company.
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...We've all heard the horror stories, they're usually a result of bad software or driving like a tw@t, not warming up/cooling down properly etc....
preach, my brother! :cool:
P.S. I love your avatar!
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vws have sh!te maps,
YAWN :rolleyes:
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a remap wouldn't 'blow the engine to bits' because they've been tried and tested on other vag cars.
Not all chip tuners have "tried and tested" re-maps! :wink:
think of the newest polo gti (130bhp), mk4 golf gti (150 then 180bhp with the anni) and mk1 audi tt 1.8 (220bhp). all have the same 1.8T engine (also found in leon/ibiza cupras too etc), but different maps.
That is complete bollox. The 225 has completely different, revised internals compared to the 180 in the 1.8 20VT. The 2 litre FSI turbo also comes with completely different "hardware", dependent on the standard state of tune.
a remap is pretty much undectable - little to no chance of this getting flagged up and voiding your warranty,
Hmm, a remap may be undectectable, on the 'puter - but any experienced stealer techhy will know something is "different" on a test drive! :smug:
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did you get a proper remap?
Well it was Superchips, done by AB Motorsport in Leamington Spa...
Don't let TT see that!!! :lipsrsealed: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Horses ... and courses, and all that. :rolleyes:
I certainly wont have a dig at GTI CV7, but to anyone else thinking of a Super$h!ts/BlueBollox - you have been warned.
Caveat Emptor. :smug:
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50,000 miles in my mk4 on a revo remap (engine now at 106k) and not one problem because of it. We've all heard the horror stories, they're usually a result of bad software or driving like a tw@t, not warming up/cooling down properly etc. You'd be very unlucky to have problems caused by a map from a reputable tuning company.
Eggzakerley :smug: :smug:
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think of the newest polo gti (130bhp), mk4 golf gti (150 then 180bhp with the anni) and mk1 audi tt 1.8 (220bhp). all have the same 1.8T engine (also found in leon/ibiza cupras too etc), but different maps.
That is complete bollox. The 225 has completely different, revised internals compared to the 180 in the 1.8 20VT. The 2 litre FSI turbo also comes with completely different "hardware", dependent on the standard state of tune.
The golf and TT both share AUM and AUQ engines... (there's others they don't share though)
a remap is pretty much undectable - little to no chance of this getting flagged up and voiding your warranty,
Hmm, a remap may be undectectable, on the 'puter - but any experienced stealer techhy will know something is "different" on a test drive! :smug:
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any techy who admitted to finding something different like that would have to admit to thrashing the sh!t off your car too tho! it's also a decent point but then how would they prove it? no exactly gonna RR your car are they...
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the weedy 150 and 180 bhp TT's share the golf/a3 engines.. but the 225 BAM/AMK engines have lower compression pistons and larger wrist pins.
anyone had their 170ps gt tdi remapped yet? looks like i've got to go diesel...
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the weedy 150 and 180 bhp TT's share the golf/a3 engines.. but the 225 BAM/AMK engines have lower compression pistons and larger wrist pins.
i thought all TTs ran at least 220... that's a little disappointing!
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think of the newest polo gti (130bhp), mk4 golf gti (150 then 180bhp with the anni) and mk1 audi tt 1.8 (220bhp). all have the same 1.8T engine (also found in leon/ibiza cupras too etc), but different maps.
That is complete bollox. The 225 has completely different, revised internals compared to the 180 in the 1.8 20VT. The 2 litre FSI turbo also comes with completely different "hardware", dependent on the standard state of tune.
The golf and TT both share AUM and AUQ engines... (there's others they don't share though)
You still havn't grasped the nettle fully!
a remap is pretty much undectable - little to no chance of this getting flagged up and voiding your warranty,
Hmm, a remap may be undectectable, on the 'puter - but any experienced stealer techhy will know something is "different" on a test drive! :smug:
any techy who admitted to finding something different like that would have to admit to thrashing the sh!t off your car too tho! it's also a decent point but then how would they prove it? no exactly gonna RR your car are they...
Again, more bollox. You don't need to "thrash" a car on a test drive. Simple part throttle acceleration tests will reveal differences in torque production (which would then indicate differences in potential power, higher up the rev range). :nerd: :smug:
If they did have valid suspicions, then they simply download the ECU map on a data stick, and send it back to VW Germany for a detailed analysis - and I strongly guess that VW would know their own maps!
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the weedy 150 and 180 bhp TT's share the golf/a3 engines.. but the 225 BAM/AMK engines have lower compression pistons and larger wrist pins.
i thought all TTs ran at least 220... that's a little disappointing!
Nope. On the Mk1 TT, the "poverty spec" 180PS were identified by a single zorst, exiting on the left. The 225s, along with the 3.2 had twin pipes.
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Nope. On the Mk1 TT, the "poverty spec" 180PS were identified by a single zorst, exiting on the left. The 225s, along with the 3.2 had twin pipes.
Yep... you can easily spot a 'poor mans' TT by the single pipe at the back
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The 150's are also only 2wd.. so thats a golf chassis with a bubble stuck on top then.
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:smiley: yup ok guys! think we lost the topic somewhere along the way lol.
i still think there's more reasons to get a remap than against one though - especially if you have other mods