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Title: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: maxamus on 30 April 2007, 11:03
Well, normally i just put whatever is on offer at whatever fueling station i am near. The other day i put in ESSO Supreme Unleaded which was £1.04 a litre (10p more than the standard RON95). I didnt notice any real difference actually in driving.

So what should i be doing?

- Is RON95 ok to use?
- RON97 Better?
- What about the Supreme Unleaded?

BP, Shell, Total, Tesco...?

Help me out guys.....
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Rhyso on 30 April 2007, 11:18
GTI engine is configured to run on 98RON I believe therefore you need fuels such as Shell V-Power, Tesco 99RON or BP Ultimate.

your GTI will run fine on 95 RON but the engine will retard the ingnition to suit and thereofre you will not have full power at your disposal.
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: maxamus on 30 April 2007, 11:21
Looks like im going to have to start going to Shell, BP and Tesco's to fuel up in future and only use RON99...
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Rhyso on 30 April 2007, 11:25
think on an earlier topic most people rate the Tesco and Shell stuff.

I know when EVO did a test they found both to outperform the BP stuff
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: maxamus on 30 April 2007, 11:42
is there any noticeable difference though in performance/power and mpg when using the standard and the elite?
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: wantmygti on 30 April 2007, 11:49
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=58279.0

try and read this, Sean did a fuel run down just the other day.

The thing i don't understand, is why my fuel cap, and the manual say use 95RON when 98RON is widely reagrded as the suitable juice?
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 30 April 2007, 11:51
GTI engine is configured to run on 98RON I believe therefore you need fuels such as Shell V-Power, Tesco 99RON or BP Ultimate.

Not BP Ultimate, as it is only 97 RON!  :nerd:

your GTI will run fine on 95 RON but the engine will retard the ingnition to suit and thereofre you will not have full power at your disposal.

And poorer fuel economy, due to the less efficient fuel burn.
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: KittyMk1 on 30 April 2007, 11:53
i'd go for shell, optimax is good for high performance cars. stops melting pistons (well on cossies anyway lol)
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 30 April 2007, 11:56
is there any noticeable difference though in performance/power and mpg when using the standard and the elite?

Yes.  The GTI engine was desinged to "run" at its optimum (performance and efficiency) using 98 RON.  Using a fuel of less than 98 RON, be that 97 RON from BP Ultimate, Esso super unleaded, Sainsburys, Total etc, or the standard 95 RON unleaded, then the engine has to adjust it's operation - resulting in less power, and poorer fuel economy!  :nerd:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 30 April 2007, 12:02
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=58279.0

try and read this, Sean did a fuel run down just the other day.

Thanks for the pointer.  :smiley:

The thing i don't understand, is why my fuel cap, and the manual say use 95RON when 98RON is widely reagrded as the suitable juice?

I think you will find it states something like 98 is the "preferred" or "recommended", but it will happily run on 95 without causing any damage (but with less power), if 98 is unavailable.

In my RS4, you can even use 91 RON, but there are strict stipulations, about half throttle, low rpms, low vehicle loads, and no high altitudes - oh, bu&&er, that dashes my plans to scale the north face of the eiger <sp?> in my RS4 on cheap juice!!!
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 30 April 2007, 12:05
i'd go for shell, optimax is good for high performance cars. stops melting pistons (well on cossies anyway lol)

Do tell us, Girlie  :smiley: - where we might find this Optimax?

I'm sure it was a typo on your behalf  :wink:, especially as Optimax has been obsolete for about a year now, having been replaced by V-Power !!!  :nerd:  :nerd:  :kiss:  :kiss:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Rhyso on 30 April 2007, 12:05
GTI engine is configured to run on 98RON I believe therefore you need fuels such as Shell V-Power, Tesco 99RON or BP Ultimate.

Not BP Ultimate, as it is only 97 RON!  :nerd:


wasn't sure! I drive a diesel after all  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 30 April 2007, 12:11
GTI engine is configured to run on 98RON I believe therefore you need fuels such as Shell V-Power, Tesco 99RON or BP Ultimate.

Not BP Ultimate, as it is only 97 RON!  :nerd:


wasn't sure! I drive a diesel after all  :grin: :grin:

Bloddy soot slingers  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: KittyMk1 on 30 April 2007, 12:25
cheeky git. thats what i meant, even though the shell garage i go to still has the optimax logo on the pumps.
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 30 April 2007, 12:37
cheeky git. thats what i meant,

PMSL  :laugh:

even though the shell garage i go to still has the optimax logo on the pumps.

Does it !!!  :shocked:

Do they still have the rubber tubes you drive over, and a bell rings in a wooden hut, and then a man appears in a brown dustcoat and flat cap, and fills it up for you . . . . .  :evil:  :evil:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: KittyMk1 on 30 April 2007, 12:42
lol that funny looking guy?? i think he got a job at mcdonalds or something lol
was ur petrol station like that about a year ago now???
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: wantmygti on 30 April 2007, 12:52


Do they still have the rubber tubes you drive over, and a bell rings in a wooden hut, and then a man appears in a brown dustcoat and flat cap, and fills it up for you . . . . .  :evil:  :evil:

He only asks Girlie as they are now called 'Independent Motor Vehicle Technician (ret'd)'. Some still keep aforementioned cap in their cars, along with the jacket....

Right back at you Sean!!!!
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 30 April 2007, 13:10


Do they still have the rubber tubes you drive over, and a bell rings in a wooden hut, and then a man appears in a brown dustcoat and flat cap, and fills it up for you . . . . .  :evil:  :evil:

He only asks Girlie as they are now called 'Independent Motor Vehicle Technician (ret'd)'. Some still keep aforementioned cap in their cars, along with the jacket....

Right back at you Sean!!!!

I'm reeling from the pain of that low blow - clearly below the belt  :shocked:

ps - you forgot to mention the ferrets  :grin:  :grin:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: wantmygti on 30 April 2007, 13:33


Do they still have the rubber tubes you drive over, and a bell rings in a wooden hut, and then a man appears in a brown dustcoat and flat cap, and fills it up for you . . . . .  :evil:  :evil:

He only asks Girlie as they are now called 'Independent Motor Vehicle Technician (ret'd)'. Some still keep aforementioned cap in their cars, along with the jacket....

Right back at you Sean!!!!

I'm reeling from the pain of that low blow - clearly below the belt  :shocked:

ps - you forgot to mention the ferrets  :grin:  :grin:

Sorry old fella - I couldn't resist!!
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: KittyMk1 on 30 April 2007, 13:51
ah thats why ur familiar with petrol stations in the 'olden days' lol :laugh: :kiss:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Phil mcavity on 30 April 2007, 14:56
GTI engine is configured to run on 98RON I believe therefore you need fuels such as Shell V-Power, Tesco 99RON or BP Ultimate.

TESCO CLUBCARD POINTS!! wasnt me honest, was the wife!
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: maxamus on 30 April 2007, 14:59
haha  :smiley:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 30 April 2007, 16:55


Do they still have the rubber tubes you drive over, and a bell rings in a wooden hut, and then a man appears in a brown dustcoat and flat cap, and fills it up for you . . . . .  :evil:  :evil:

He only asks Girlie as they are now called 'Independent Motor Vehicle Technician (ret'd)'. Some still keep aforementioned cap in their cars, along with the jacket....

Right back at you Sean!!!!

I'm reeling from the pain of that low blow - clearly below the belt  :shocked:

ps - you forgot to mention the ferrets  :grin:  :grin:

Sorry old fella - I couldn't resist!!

Good job I've got the skin of a Rhino !!!  :wink:  :smiley:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Mr Lees on 30 April 2007, 20:10
Actually the EVO review showed BP ultimate 97 in the golf GTi gave an increase of 15 bhp and XX torque (forgot sorry!) only marginally worse than tesco 99 but better than optimax, I filled up other week with ultimate and am getting 3+ mpg better and definatley crisper throttle reponse, so the extra p / litre is not so bad considering your getting 30+ miles extra from a tank. ultimate 99.9p Leeds
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 01 May 2007, 08:39
Actually the EVO review showed BP ultimate 97 in the golf GTi gave an increase of 15 bhp and XX torque (forgot sorry!) only marginally worse than tesco 99 but better than optimax,

Hmmmmm - don't suppose you have a linky to that?  I'm always cautious of any "tests" done by magazines which clearly get their revenue from advertising.  What about the fact that Optimax is obsolete!  Unless you know that there was a "control" to the test, and the environmental conditions were identical, then any published review like that would be flawed.

IMHO, I consider BP Ultimate to be the most over-hyped, and overtly expensive of all the super unleadeds, and useage in either my RS4 or the GTI seem to prove that!

I filled up other week with ultimate and am getting 3+ mpg better and definatley crisper throttle reponse, so the extra p / litre is not so bad considering your getting 30+ miles extra from a tank. ultimate 99.9p Leeds

How does that price compare, in your area, with Tesco 99 and Shell V-Power?
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: KittyMk1 on 01 May 2007, 08:41
blimey! thats cheap compared to Ultimate here!
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Rhyso on 01 May 2007, 08:56
Actually the EVO review showed BP ultimate 97 in the golf GTi gave an increase of 15 bhp and XX torque (forgot sorry!) only marginally worse than tesco 99 but better than optimax,

Hmmmmm - don't suppose you have a linky to that?  I'm always cautious of any "tests" done by magazines which clearly get their revenue from advertising.  What about the fact that Optimax is obsolete!  Unless you know that there was a "control" to the test, and the environmental conditions were identical, then any published review like that would be flawed.


think the test was done at the back end of 2005 / beginning of 2006 so before Optimax was made obsolete  :nerd:

check out www.evo.co.uk and look for the test

either way I'd beat you all in a race cos you'll be stopping every 5 minutes to fill go! GO DIESEL  :grin  :tongue: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 01 May 2007, 09:59
blimey! thats cheap compared to Ultimate here!

Mornin' Girlie

How much is Ultimate in your neck of the woods then?  Where I am, it is usually about 6-8p more than V-Power - about 102-104 ppl ATM.
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: KittyMk1 on 01 May 2007, 10:00
it was 107 last time i went to bp
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 01 May 2007, 10:05
either way I'd beat you all in a race cos you'll be stopping every 5 minutes to fill go! GO DIESEL  :grin:  :tongue: :laugh: :laugh:

Nah, the only reason you'll stand a chance, is because we'll have to keep stopping to clear your soot from our windscreens!  :shocked:  :laugh:  :evil:  :grin:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 01 May 2007, 10:08
it was 107 last time i went to bp

<cough> - how much ???  :huh:

How does that compare with Tesco 99 and Shell V-Power ?
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: KittyMk1 on 01 May 2007, 10:11
shell v power (got it right then! bet ur checking after the optimax thing! lol) is 99. something. i dont understand why theres such a big difference in it?
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 01 May 2007, 10:14
think the test was done at the back end of 2005 / beginning of 2006 so before Optimax was made obsolete  :nerd:

check out www.evo.co.uk and look for the test

Searched EVO, and it aint there anymore!
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 01 May 2007, 10:22
shell v power (got it right then! bet ur checking after the optimax thing! lol) is 99.

 :wink:  :smiley:

something. i dont understand why theres such a big difference in it?

What - reference the difference in price between the three!?

I personally think that BP is just a blatant rip-off.  When comparing all the 97 RON super unleadeds, like Total Excillium (sp?), Esso, Sainsburys, and BP - the BP stuff is noticeably more expensive.

Whilst I generally avoid all the 97 RON ones, if I cant find Tesco 99 or V-Power, then the 97 brew has to do.  I find that the BP Ultimate is on a par with Sainsburys super unleaded (but about 12p per litre more expensive)!  Of all the 97 brews, I actually find the Total one to be the best.  :nerd:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: wantmygti on 01 May 2007, 10:31
I remeber in Evo when they tested the fuels they reckon that one of the most important things is that the fuel is fresh as it quickly deteriorates. Your best bet is therefore is use the busiest filling station you can find!
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Rhyso on 01 May 2007, 10:52
either way I'd beat you all in a race cos you'll be stopping every 5 minutes to fill go! GO DIESEL  :grin:  :tongue: :laugh: :laugh:

Nah, the only reason you'll stand a chance, is because we'll have to keep stopping to clear your soot from our windscreens!  :shocked:  :laugh:  :evil:  :grin:

mine doesn't soot thank you very much :smug: well.......... not as much as others  :smiley:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: KittyMk1 on 01 May 2007, 11:02
I remeber in Evo when they tested the fuels they reckon that one of the most important things is that the fuel is fresh as it quickly deteriorates. Your best bet is therefore is use the busiest filling station you can find!

there u go tamer. wantmygti recommends no one come to ur olden days petrol station lol
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: wantmygti on 01 May 2007, 11:25
I remeber in Evo when they tested the fuels they reckon that one of the most important things is that the fuel is fresh as it quickly deteriorates. Your best bet is therefore is use the busiest filling station you can find!

there u go tamer. wantmygti recommends no one come to ur olden days petrol station lol

Nooo!! I've had my dig at Sean! he may be very busy at his filling station.....
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: KittyMk1 on 01 May 2007, 11:29
i doubt it. he'll probably scare everyone off with his 'customer service'
lol
i'm only kidding though! lol
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Hully on 01 May 2007, 11:30
either way I'd beat you all in a race cos you'll be stopping every 5 minutes to fill go! GO DIESEL  :grin:  :tongue: :laugh: :laugh:

Nah, the only reason you'll stand a chance, is because we'll have to keep stopping to clear your soot from our windscreens!  :shocked:  :laugh:  :evil:  :grin:

mine doesn't soot thank you very much :smug: well.......... not as much as others  :smiley:

As much as I love my PD150 I'm still looking forward to going back to the responsivness of petrol.  :embarassed: But you're right, I'll have to be stopping a whole lot more to fill up. Still at least I  won't be sooting up TTs windscreen when I pass him.  :wink:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 01 May 2007, 15:01
I remeber in Evo when they tested the fuels they reckon that one of the most important things is that the fuel is fresh as it quickly deteriorates. Your best bet is therefore is use the busiest filling station you can find!

That'll be the supermarkets, then - why do people queue at them - like flies around $h!t !!!!  :sick:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 01 May 2007, 15:04
I remeber in Evo when they tested the fuels they reckon that one of the most important things is that the fuel is fresh as it quickly deteriorates. Your best bet is therefore is use the busiest filling station you can find!

there u go tamer. wantmygti recommends no one come to ur olden days petrol station lol

Nooo!! I've had my dig at Sean! he may be very busy at his filling station.....

What kind of "filling station"???  :shocked:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 01 May 2007, 15:06
i doubt it. he'll probably scare everyone off with his 'customer service'
lol
i'm only kidding though! lol

Maybe you should try some of my "customer service" - you may actually like it, Steff !!  :wink:  :wink:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: KittyMk1 on 01 May 2007, 15:08
oh really???
Shall i schedule a visit to your 'filling' station then? lol
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 01 May 2007, 15:09
either way I'd beat you all in a race cos you'll be stopping every 5 minutes to fill go! GO DIESEL  :grin:  :tongue: :laugh: :laugh:

Nah, the only reason you'll stand a chance, is because we'll have to keep stopping to clear your soot from our windscreens!  :shocked:  :laugh:  :evil:  :grin:

mine doesn't soot thank you very much :smug: well.......... not as much as others  :smiley:

As much as I love my PD150 I'm still looking forward to going back to the responsivness of petrol.  :embarassed: But you're right, I'll have to be stopping a whole lot more to fill up. Still at least I  won't be sooting up TTs windscreen when I pass him.  :wink:

And which particular windscreen might that be ??  :smug:  :smug:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: wantmygti on 01 May 2007, 15:10
i doubt it. he'll probably scare everyone off with his 'customer service'
lol
i'm only kidding though! lol

Maybe you should try some of my "customer service" - you may actually like it, Steff !!  :wink:  :wink:

Now who is using the forum as a dating scene?!?
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 01 May 2007, 15:11
oh really???
Shall i schedule a visit to your 'filling' station then? lol

Ohhhh errrrr - only when SWMBO isn't - er - getting serviced !!!!  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 01 May 2007, 15:13
i doubt it. he'll probably scare everyone off with his 'customer service'
lol
i'm only kidding though! lol

Maybe you should try some of my "customer service" - you may actually like it, Steff !!  :wink:  :wink:

Now who is using the forum as a dating scene?!?

Bu&&er - you've sussed me!
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Hully on 02 May 2007, 07:30
either way I'd beat you all in a race cos you'll be stopping every 5 minutes to fill go! GO DIESEL  :grin:  :tongue: :laugh: :laugh:

Nah, the only reason you'll stand a chance, is because we'll have to keep stopping to clear your soot from our windscreens!  :shocked:  :laugh:  :evil:  :grin:

mine doesn't soot thank you very much :smug: well.......... not as much as others  :smiley:

As much as I love my PD150 I'm still looking forward to going back to the responsivness of petrol.  :embarassed: But you're right, I'll have to be stopping a whole lot more to fill up. Still at least I  won't be sooting up TTs windscreen when I pass him.  :wink:

And which particular windscreen might that be ??  :smug:  :smug:

I thought with the cloth cap from the filling station and the tweed jacket that you'd be tootling along so to speak  :grin:, or maybe not.......  :wink:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: maxamus on 02 May 2007, 08:57
So have we come to some sort of agreement/conclusion as it which fuel is the best?
Alot of opinions so far with some people differing their opinions....

- BP Ultimate (is that RON98?)
- Shell V-Power (is that RON98?)
- Total Supreme Unleaded (is that RON98?)
- Tesco RON99
?

Unfortunetly, my local Tesco only does RON97 (which i had to put in yesterday).
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Phil mcavity on 02 May 2007, 09:00
tesco 99 96p a litre down here in the hot Sunny South  :wink:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: wantmygti on 02 May 2007, 09:08
98p in my bit of the south :cry:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: maxamus on 02 May 2007, 09:48
So have we come to some sort of agreement/conclusion as it which fuel is the best?
Alot of opinions so far with some people differing their opinions....

- BP Ultimate (is that RON98?)
- Shell V-Power (is that RON98?)
- Total Supreme Unleaded (is that RON98?)
- Tesco RON99
?

Unfortunetly, my local Tesco only does RON97 (which i had to put in yesterday).
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Hully on 02 May 2007, 09:48
Had to pay 99.9 yesterday for vmax diesel!! :cry: Vmax unleaded is 97.9 at the mo.
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Hully on 02 May 2007, 09:50
So have we come to some sort of agreement/conclusion as it which fuel is the best?
Alot of opinions so far with some people differing their opinions....

- BP Ultimate (is that RON98?)
- Shell V-Power (is that RON98?)
- Total Supreme Unleaded (is that RON98?)
- Tesco RON99
?

Unfortunetly, my local Tesco only does RON97 (which i had to put in yesterday).

IMO I wouuld only use Shell if I had the choice, but the new Tesco 99 sounds like its just as good.  As for the other stuff, I would avoid if I could.
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 02 May 2007, 12:33
So have we come to some sort of agreement/conclusion as it which fuel is the best?
Alot of opinions so far with some people differing their opinions....

- BP Ultimate (is that RON98?)
- Shell V-Power (is that RON98?)
- Total Supreme Unleaded (is that RON98?)
- Tesco RON99

No, the best fuel, now proven by two independent tests:
- Tesco 99 RON
A close run second would be:
- Shell V-Power 99 RON

There are no 98 RON fuels on sale, to the best of my knowledge, in the UK.  All the other "Super Unleadeds" are 97 RON.  My personal order of preference would be:
- Total,
then
- Esso,
and as a last resort,
- BP Ultimate 97

Unfortunetly, my local Tesco only does RON97 (which i had to put in yesterday).

If you live near a large town which has two or more Tesco filling stations, then try the other one, because Tesco are trying to roll out the 99 into at least one site in all towns.  I live in the sticks, and even my local Tesco has 99, but 4p a litre dear than when I go to the "big city".  :wink:  :smiley:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 02 May 2007, 16:35
I filled up with £43.00 worth of Tesco's 99 this morning, but without a turbo I don't suppose it will make feck all difference, only too my wallet  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Phil mcavity on 02 May 2007, 16:47
so you will be back in 2 days creepy to fill up your R32 again, or it feels like it, mines the dam same, good for my clubcard points at tesco mind you  :smug:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 02 May 2007, 17:09
so you will be back in 2 days creepy to fill up your R32 again, or it feels like it, mines the dam same, good for my clubcard points at tesco mind you  :smug:

If it was my daily drive I would be going back soon Phil, but i have an old sh!te box Mondeo for work, so it eases the pain a little, exceprt when i get a month like april, with Tax, insurance and RAC cover due on the Mondy.  :cry:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Phil mcavity on 02 May 2007, 17:29
i feel your pain,just re-taxed mine today for another 6 months, dam chancellor has increased it another £6 to £112.50 for 6 months, although its not half as bad as youre R32 is and will be in 12 months.
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 02 May 2007, 18:15
I filled up with £43.00 worth of Tesco's 99 this morning, but without a turbo I don't suppose it will make feck all difference, only too my wallet  :rolleyes:

Doesn't yours need the 98 brew, then?  What does it say on the inside of the fuel filler flap?
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Hurdy on 02 May 2007, 18:32
I filled up with £43.00 worth of Tesco's 99 this morning, but without a turbo I don't suppose it will make feck all difference, only too my wallet  :rolleyes:

Doesn't yours need the 98 brew, then?  What does it say on the inside of the fuel filler flap?

VW brochure says 95 RON minimum, just like every other car in the range. I would have thought GTI, ED30 and R32 would all be 98 RON to get the best out of them :undecided:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 02 May 2007, 19:31
I filled up with £43.00 worth of Tesco's 99 this morning, but without a turbo I don't suppose it will make feck all difference, only too my wallet  :rolleyes:

Doesn't yours need the 98 brew, then?  What does it say on the inside of the fuel filler flap?

VW brochure says 95 RON minimum, just like every other car in the range.

Yebut - that is just a standard "get-out" clause, I think - for the tight gits that penny pinch at the Asda petrol stations!  :rolleyes:

I would have thought GTI, ED30 and R32 would all be 98 RON to get the best out of them :undecided:

Aye me too.  But it might just be a turbo or FSI thang - and CCs has neither!  But on my fuel filler flap, if defo says 98 as the preferred, then something like 95 with reduced performance.  I just wondered if CCs .:R32 said the same?
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 03 May 2007, 08:11
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Aye me too.  But it might just be a turbo or FSI thang - and CCs has neither!  But on my fuel filler flap, if defo says 98 as the preferred, then something like 95 with reduced performance.  I just wondered if CCs .:R32 said the same?

No my flaps say 95, and I thought the R32 had an FSi fuel system ? mind you it is a lazy engine, I mean 250 from a 3.2 is hardly pushing the envelope
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: wantmygti on 03 May 2007, 08:28
Mine says 95 RON is fine on the filler cap. Nothing about reduced performance.
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Hurdy on 03 May 2007, 12:25
This is what mine says:-


(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/IMGP0342.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: wantmygti on 03 May 2007, 13:28
Different to mine. My just says 95 Minimum. I've prob got the wrong sticker on mine after hearing about some of the oddities that comes out the factory.
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 03 May 2007, 14:28
Maybe the ED30 has to have 98 as it's in a higher state of tune?
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 04 May 2007, 09:25
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Aye me too.  But it might just be a turbo or FSI thang - and CCs has neither!  But on my fuel filler flap, if defo says 98 as the preferred, then something like 95 with reduced performance.  I just wondered if CCs .:R32 said the same?

No my flaps say 95, and I thought the R32 had an FSi fuel system ?

I too initially thought the 32 had FSI (VW stealers again!!!) - but have subsequently been told it definately does not.  CC, look on your plastic engine cover - if it does have FSI, then those three letters will be adorned on the cover.  Alternativley, remove the cover, and look for the injectors, and more importantly, the ultra high pressure FSI fuel pump.  To id the pumps, look at the pics of the engine in my RS4 thread - there are two pumps, one for each bank, sitting on the red-tops, near the rear RS4 carbon cover.

mind you it is a lazy engine, I mean 250 from a 3.2 is hardly pushing the envelope

Yebut, the 15degree narrow angle VR6 suffers with cooling probs (when tuned), which is why they are in a relatively mild state of tune as standard.  On the Audi A4, and upwards, the 3.2 V6 is actually a 60 degree wide angle vee!
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 04 May 2007, 09:29
My GTI sticker is exactly like Hurdys.

In my last B6 S6 (non FSI), and my current B7 RS4 (FSI), they both had a sticker saying 98RON, then 95RON (but with something like reduced performance).  I'm too busy ATM to take a piccy - going away actually - so I'm sure my ears will be burning whislt I'm away!  :wink:  :grin:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 04 May 2007, 09:44
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Aye me too.  But it might just be a turbo or FSI thang - and CCs has neither!  But on my fuel filler flap, if defo says 98 as the preferred, then something like 95 with reduced performance.  I just wondered if CCs .:R32 said the same?

No my flaps say 95, and I thought the R32 had an FSi fuel system ?

I too initially thought the 32 had FSI (VW stealers again!!!) - but have subsequently been told it definately does not.  CC, look on your plastic engine cover - if it does have FSI, then those three letters will be adorned on the cover.  Alternativley, remove the cover, and look for the injectors, and more importantly, the ultra high pressure FSI fuel pump.  To id the pumps, look at the pics of the engine in my RS4 thread - there are two pumps, one for each bank, sitting on the red-tops, near the rear RS4 carbon cover.

mind you it is a lazy engine, I mean 250 from a 3.2 is hardly pushing the envelope

I'll look tomorrow, starnge though as the fuel pumps kick in when I open the drivers door, just like the Gti, thought that was asign of FSi.

Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 04 May 2007, 10:13
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Aye me too.  But it might just be a turbo or FSI thang - and CCs has neither!  But on my fuel filler flap, if defo says 98 as the preferred, then something like 95 with reduced performance.  I just wondered if CCs .:R32 said the same?

No my flaps say 95, and I thought the R32 had an FSi fuel system ?

I too initially thought the 32 had FSI (VW stealers again!!!) - but have subsequently been told it definately does not.  CC, look on your plastic engine cover - if it does have FSI, then those three letters will be adorned on the cover.  Alternativley, remove the cover, and look for the injectors, and more importantly, the ultra high pressure FSI fuel pump.  To id the pumps, look at the pics of the engine in my RS4 thread - there are two pumps, one for each bank, sitting on the red-tops, near the rear RS4 carbon cover.

mind you it is a lazy engine, I mean 250 from a 3.2 is hardly pushing the envelope

I'll look tomorrow, starnge though as the fuel pumps kick in when I open the drivers door, just like the Gti, thought that was asign of FSi.


That'll just be the normal lift pump, mounted in the fuel tank, or it could even be the purge pump for the carbon canister.
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 04 May 2007, 10:29
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Aye me too.  But it might just be a turbo or FSI thang - and CCs has neither!  But on my fuel filler flap, if defo says 98 as the preferred, then something like 95 with reduced performance.  I just wondered if CCs .:R32 said the same?

No my flaps say 95, and I thought the R32 had an FSi fuel system ?

I too initially thought the 32 had FSI (VW stealers again!!!) - but have subsequently been told it definately does not.  CC, look on your plastic engine cover - if it does have FSI, then those three letters will be adorned on the cover.  Alternativley, remove the cover, and look for the injectors, and more importantly, the ultra high pressure FSI fuel pump.  To id the pumps, look at the pics of the engine in my RS4 thread - there are two pumps, one for each bank, sitting on the red-tops, near the rear RS4 carbon cover.

mind you it is a lazy engine, I mean 250 from a 3.2 is hardly pushing the envelope

I'll look tomorrow, starnge though as the fuel pumps kick in when I open the drivers door, just like the Gti, thought that was asign of FSi.


That'll just be the normal lift pump, mounted in the fuel tank, or it could even be the purge pump for the carbon canister.

The noise comes from upfront, so I suppose it's the latter.
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: SteveS on 12 July 2007, 09:46
so tesco is the best? thats good for me not far to go!

i get mine today!! (if all goes right!)
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: RedRobin on 12 July 2007, 10:32
What's the best fuel? - Isn't this a no-brainer? - Shell V-Power.

Why? - Because it has important additives which contribute to the health and longevity of your valuable FSI engine.

Do you trust Tesco? - I don't!

As others will have doubtless already posted: Only use 95 RON in emergency, the 2.0T FSI runs best on >98 RON.
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: SteveS on 12 July 2007, 11:12
No, the best fuel, now proven by two independent tests:
- Tesco 99 RON
A close run second would be:
- Shell V-Power 99 RON
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Phil mcavity on 12 July 2007, 16:00
Tesco 99 is the best and proven aswell over shell v-power.Your local tesco may only do 97 octane as most of the smaller tesco outlets only do that grade, if so , get the V-power but you will pay over the odds for it, (as long as tesco dont balls up like recently), hope you finally pick up the beauty today mate, let us have some pics s.a.p.
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: SteveS on 12 July 2007, 16:20
cheers! :D

how do i tell if its 97 or 99... it should be labled?

http://www.greenergy.com/tesco_99_octane/where_to_buy.html
Watford is on the list!! woot!
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: RedRobin on 12 July 2007, 16:24
Tesco 99 is the best and proven aswell over shell v-power.Your local tesco may only do 97 octane as most of the smaller tesco outlets only do that grade, if so , get the V-power but you will pay over the odds for it, (as long as tesco dont balls up like recently),

....Two very strong reasons to drive past Tesco stations without stopping. Not only is V-Power more consistent but has the additives. Each to their own though of course :cool:.
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: fliptophead on 14 July 2007, 18:15
I'm really peee'd off that nowhere north of Yorkshire, and south of the Scottish borders has the fuel...

Clearly they must think we can only survive on the 97 octane stuff... BOOOOO!

They must think that nobody north of Yorkshire has cars that need the good stuff....  Shame be upon them!


You have to laugh though... I got back from my hols a couple of weeks ago, and was looking at the grade of fuel out there...
83 octane was the cheap stuff, and 89 was classed as super grade ( one place had 93 but was charging silly money ... well ok a couple of quid a gallon)...

Not only do the americans have smaller gallons, they have much weaker fuel... probably explains why the Mustang ( eugh ) I hired did about 5mpg when I caned it.
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: illyun on 14 July 2007, 21:54
Tesco 99 is the best and proven aswell over shell v-power.Your local tesco may only do 97 octane as most of the smaller tesco outlets only do that grade, if so , get the V-power but you will pay over the odds for it, (as long as tesco dont balls up like recently), hope you finally pick up the beauty today mate, let us have some pics s.a.p.

Where did you get that one from?!  Shell and BP Ultimate have been consistently rated as better in tests that I have read in Evo and Car Magazine... plus contributors to this forum have also  consistently praised Shell V-Power and felt that it was much better than Tesco 99... the only exception it seems is you.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: SteveS on 14 July 2007, 22:05
well someone make up their mind!! i dont know what to use!
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Phil mcavity on 15 July 2007, 08:30
illyan, read teutonic Tamers thread in an earlier post my friend before singling me out  :angry: :angry:

Please read the very start and useful link from Wantmygti

Steve, read this, from the archives.......... im not the only one, far far from it


-------Oh dear, that is a very "generalised" statement.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Tesco 99 Super Unleaded is not "any old petrol", which the likes of Asda, Sainsburys and Morrisons use.  The Tesco 99 is supplied by an independently audited company, Greenergy.  It is the official fuel of the British Rally Championship.  Furthermore, it has been PROVEN, in independent tests, to be considerably better than the now obsolete Shell Optimax, AND the current BP Ultimate.

I certainly wouldn't recommend anyone filling up with standard unleaded at Asda, and the like - but we are specifically talking about a high octane super unleaded - which the Mk5 GTI should use all the time!
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if you read the 1st 2 pages of this thread, you will see quite clearly im not the only one, and your comment about bp being better fuel, plz read again pages 1 and 2

Steve theres nowt wrong with tesco's 99 stuff, like i been saying, shells fuel is refined the same process as shell fuel,(again read the post prior) with their own additives which realistically dont make sh!te difference in performance and "care"of your engine.

SLEEP WELL
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: illyun on 15 July 2007, 11:06
illyan, read teutonic Tamers thread in an earlier post my friend before singling me out  :angry: :angry:

Please read the very start and useful link from Wantmygti

Steve, read this, from the archives.......... im not the only one, far far from it


-------Oh dear, that is a very "generalised" statement.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Tesco 99 Super Unleaded is not "any old petrol", which the likes of Asda, Sainsburys and Morrisons use.  The Tesco 99 is supplied by an independently audited company, Greenergy.  It is the official fuel of the British Rally Championship.  Furthermore, it has been PROVEN, in independent tests, to be considerably better than the now obsolete Shell Optimax, AND the current BP Ultimate.

I certainly wouldn't recommend anyone filling up with standard unleaded at Asda, and the like - but we are specifically talking about a high octane super unleaded - which the Mk5 GTI should use all the time!
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if you read the 1st 2 pages of this thread, you will see quite clearly im not the only one, and your comment about bp being better fuel, plz read again pages 1 and 2

Steve theres nowt wrong with tesco's 99 stuff, like i been saying, shells fuel is refined the same process as shell fuel,(again read the post prior) with their own additives which realistically dont make sh!te difference in performance and "care"of your engine.

SLEEP WELL


Hmm.... fair point Phil.  I've not read that post before and I'm sure as hell not going to argue the toss with Teutonic - he might get quite worked up  :grin: :grin:  But I have read the opposite too in Evo and Car magazine as well as from plenty of guys on this forum who have tried both - my car always got Shell V-Power and never anything else so I can't really comment from personel experience.  I'll give it a try when I get my Edition 30 in october.
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: J.M. on 15 July 2007, 11:32
Think that was a sort of an apology Phil from Illyun there !

Run my Edition 30 on Tesco 99 all the time now, it comes from a different refinery to their other fuel and was'nt hit by the last fuel scare.
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: vanders on 16 July 2007, 09:30
The other benefit with Tesco's at the moment is that you get a voucher for 5p a litre off if you spend £50 in store.

Just wish my missus would split her weekly shop in 2 - then we could have 2 vouchers per week.
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: ed30 on 16 July 2007, 11:24
i personally use used cooking oil in my Edition 30 :rolleyes:
i buy it in 25 litre drums from my local chippy,appart from the smoke cloud behind and numerous trips back to my dealer it ok :grin:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 26 August 2007, 17:35
Tesco 99 is the best and proven aswell over shell v-power.Your local tesco may only do 97 octane as most of the smaller tesco outlets only do that grade, if so , get the V-power but you will pay over the odds for it, (as long as tesco dont balls up like recently),

....Two very strong reasons to drive past Tesco stations without stopping. Not only is V-Power more consistent but has the additives. Each to their own though of course :cool:.

Tesco themselves didn't "balls up" their own fuels.  The contamination also affected some other "premium" fuel stations too, and I think some Shell garages were affected.  The actuall contaminent was silica - ie, sand!

Also, don't forget the catastrophic debacle of the "Formula Shell" in the 1980s/early 90s - which was proven to cause valve seat recession.  They were found gulty in the high court, appealed, and lost the appeal - yet they still denied it was their fuel.  :nerd:

Anyway, Tesco 99 probably has a better additives package than V-Power.

Where did you get you data from, stating V-Power was more consistent?  :smiley:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 26 August 2007, 17:39
I'm really peee'd off that nowhere north of Yorkshire, and south of the Scottish borders has the fuel...

Clearly they must think we can only survive on the 97 octane stuff... BOOOOO!

They must think that nobody north of Yorkshire has cars that need the good stuff....  Shame be upon them!

You wanna go to Italy then.  Not only are the drivers absolutely fcuking mental, and downright suicidal, you are lucky if you can get 95 RON.  Many places still only sell 91 RON - and that made my RS4 run like a bag of nails!  :angry:  Even with the so-called tie between Ferrari and Shell, the vast majority of Shell stations didn't sell V-Power.

<fcukin third world country>  :sick:
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 26 August 2007, 17:41
Tesco 99 is the best and proven aswell over shell v-power.Your local tesco may only do 97 octane as most of the smaller tesco outlets only do that grade, if so , get the V-power but you will pay over the odds for it, (as long as tesco dont balls up like recently), hope you finally pick up the beauty today mate, let us have some pics s.a.p.

Where did you get that one from?!  Shell and BP Ultimate have been consistently rated as better in tests that I have read in Evo and Car Magazine... plus contributors to this forum have also  consistently praised Shell V-Power and felt that it was much better than Tesco 99... the only exception it seems is you.  :rolleyes:

Do you happen to have any links for the fuel tests?  :smiley:

Somone on another forum posted something similar from Fifth Gear - and when I studied the "data" - it was utterly useless, quite a joke really.
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: RedRobin on 26 August 2007, 17:46
I've got no real data to back up my claim that V-Power is more consistent.

I found V-Power very easily in northern Italy a couple of weeks ago and even pump attendants (some quite pretty).
Title: Re: Whats the Best Fuel for my GTI?
Post by: Ed 30 on 26 August 2007, 20:22
Tesco Biofuel!  :smiley: