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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: speakeasy on 15 June 2023, 11:14
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Hello, I recently bought a MK7 from Japan and I think it may have a performance pack but I’m not sure. Can anyone confirm or disprove this from looking at the photos?
Thanks!
(https://i.postimg.cc/PxCY92c8/P1380760.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cgNv8Mds)
(https://i.postimg.cc/rm7xk5XZ/P1380762.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1ncf0nzD)
(https://i.postimg.cc/NFTTfLQs/P1380764.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p5WysW94)
(https://i.postimg.cc/13KtHwWh/P1380769.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k2BqM63f)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Fs9wSSJJ/P1380770.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rzPhXKj8)
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Easiest way IIRC is if its got "GTI" on the front brake caliper.
Im sure too a non PP Golf has silver badges front and rear, whereas a PP one has red badges.
So it looks like yours is maybe a PP??
Although these could have easily been doctored to make it look like a PP, see if its got the VAQ diff thats probably the best way of determining.
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Also larger chromed exhaust pipes on a 7.5 but not sure about a Mk 7.
Out of interest - how do you change infotainment language?
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Thanks. Yeah re: the infotainment system… I think there’s a way of doing it, saw some guides on YouTube. I was gonna start a new thread here on that question.
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Be interesting to see how you manage it👍
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You’ll be the first to know Adam
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Thanks. Yeah re: the infotainment system… I think there’s a way of doing it, saw some guides on YouTube. I was gonna start a new thread here on that question.
OP - original question - superficially judged on the photographs, the badging in fill in red suggests PP.
On subject of infotainment, surely using Google Translate app pointed at the screen is going to be the fastest way of working through the menu system. Appreciate following an instructional video will give you steps from ignition but if any of the steps don't match, you're working blind.
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Maybe look for settings (設定). Next Language (言語),
Bigger problem might be the frequency for the radio as I think Japan only goes to 80mhz
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PP has larger Front discs and GTI plague on front calipers, also has VAQ front diff so look down below intake pipe in engine bay and see if can see a unit bolted to side of gearbox or just a driveshaft (if none PP)
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Thanks. Yeah re: the infotainment system… I think there’s a way of doing it, saw some guides on YouTube. I was gonna start a new thread here on that question.
Yes mine seems to have bigger tips than those in the picture
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Also larger chromed exhaust pipes on a 7.5 but not sure about a Mk 7.
Out of interest - how do you change infotainment language?
7.5 has bigger tailpipes than 7 regardless of performance pack or not 7 the are same size on both.
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I don’t wish to be rude or go slightly off topic but what would be the advantage of importing a Golf from Japan?
Pardon my ignorance in advance.
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Can be cheaper and RHD. I read somewhere (on here I think) that rust protection may not be up to UK / EU standards as Japan does not salt roads in Winter, not sure how true that is though.
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So what does identify a PP, I’m assuming badging is a useless identifier as they can be changed easy enough. I’ve read about the red lettering under the bonnet, and now about exhaust tips….. I’ve not had chance to put mine next to another example to compare the brakes and callipers, I’ve just had a look in the bay, see if I can see a unit rather than a drive shaft, unsure what I’m looking for on one of these, my old fiesta turbo, I knew every part and bolt having taken it to bits a thousand times….. but these much more modern things aren’t the same
Spoke to my supplying dealer, they didn’t have a scooby what I was talking about :shocked:
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The differences as new were the diff, vented rear brakes, 230PS over 220PS and bigger front discs with the GTI logo on the calipers. The GTI badging was also in red however all early MK7s had silver badges so that's no guarantee. Given most things are easily upgraded, the safest way of visually checking would be the diff which is less likely to be changed. Ultimately though, if you are unsure, the sticker in the handbook will quote the engine power in KW.
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So after looking at my current insurance renewal that has it down as a Golf GTi Tsi 230 1984cc petrol 5dr automatic
So is that 230 for Bhp or for PS?
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1 PS = .99 BHP
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So after looking at my current insurance renewal that has it down as a Golf GTi Tsi 230 1984cc petrol 5dr automatic
So is that 230 for Bhp or for PS?
230PS so that must be a PP.
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This is the thing, got the big tail pipes, can’t see a drive shaft so assuming it’s got the diff, red Tsi under bonnet, but doesn’t appear to have a vented rear disc, could prevent owner have put wrong rear discs on for cheapness? and can’t see any kind of logo on the callipers, but the paint is fresher than I’d expect it to be for the age of the car…. So expect they’ve not bothered wi to the logo again. Had no badges on the rear but silver on the front. I hate full chrome so I’ve changed that for the red and out the red one back on the back too.
Either way, it goes like stink when you want it, and it’s frugal on the commute. Should have bought one years ago!
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Check the spec label in your handbook, 230PS in KW is 169 so it should have that printed.
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I’ll have a look tomorrow, gonna give it a reet good wash tomorrow afternoon as I’ve a day off
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Should look something like this if its a PP and got the VAQ diff fitted -
(https://i.postimg.cc/66G2qdt3/75212770498933-thumb-jpg-2c5d33d3481b39018ea5abf29c5c3572.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Check the spec label in your handbook, 230PS in KW is 169 so it should have that printed.
Dug out the manual…. This is the sticker
(https://i.postimg.cc/HLSGXqZ2/661-D504-C-7-C60-4-A9-E-9776-82-F0-C0599-AC2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I’ve not got chance to get under it anytime soon to see from under it
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169KW - so that's a PP model.
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Mad how some don’t have all the bits…. Defo doesn’t have vented rear discs…. Mad as the dealership had no clue it’s a PP model. They literally know jack sh!t about anything they’re selling 🤦🏻
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True about dealers, but in fairness most folk on car websites like this spend an eternity researching before they buy on one car, dealer staff deal with a multitude of models and specs. My conversation with the dealer was all around price and delivery lead times, not spec.
Dealer was really helpful in working through the lengthy order to collection cycle though.
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I don’t think it’s quite as clear cut as saying 230ps / 169kw would be a GTI performance model - it’ll depend on whether the car is a mk7 or mk7.5, and the data sticker posted by @jc_tattooer_ in reply #22 above is presumably for the car in their forum signature details - a 2018 mk7.5 GTI. A 2018 mk7.5 GTI with 230ps / 169kw would be a non-performance model - see screenshots below from a 2016 (mk7 Golf) and a 2018 (mk7.5 Golf) brochures;
Pre-facelift mk7 GTI; shows standard power output as 220ps / 162kw, with the extra cost performance pack option increasing this by 10ps / 7kw
(https://i.postimg.cc/s2pDk42D/IMG-0227.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HJkg555f)
Pre-facelift mk7 GTI - extra cost performance pack option
(https://i.postimg.cc/L8SHzZTc/IMG-0226.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBj3CGLs)
Facelift mk7.5 GTI performance and non performance models; showing power output as 230ps / 169kw (non-performance model) and 245ps / 180kw (performance model)
(https://i.postimg.cc/QMVv5X2L/IMG-0228.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1QrGHRD)
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Good point SR and well spotted. I must admit to having very lightly looked at this thread and was going by the title, not the info on jc-tattoer's signature strip. Hadn't occured to me that he/she wasn't the OP. The 7.5 doesn't have a PP option, there was the standard GTI which had the old PP power of 230PS and the GTI Performance model with 245PS. That would explain why there are no rear vented discs. So, apologies jc-tattoer, I should've paid more attention.
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Spot on - just looked at the brochure (MY 2018), price list (MY 2019) and the order form from when I ordered mine 5 years ago (MY 2019), where has that time gone…..
Brochure Main Pages - named Performance in description, 245PS.
Tech Specs in brochure - named Performance Pack.
Price List - named Performance.
My actual order with the Dealer - named Performance.
Mine has ventilated rear disks.
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I’d love some copies of the brochures, I asked in the dealer and they said they don’t supply anything anymore as it’s all digital
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I’d love some copies of the brochures, I asked in the dealer and they said they don’t supply anything anymore as it’s all digital
Try an internet search on ‘yyyy VW Golf Price and Spec Brochure pdf’ (yyyy = insert the year you’re interested in) and you will find some:- not all years, but you should be able to find a selection of mk7 and mk7.5 brochures. You can then save them as favourites.
I think the last brochure VW produced for the Golf (on line version) was the Sept 2021 brochure for the mk8 Golf.
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I’d love some copies of the brochures, I asked in the dealer and they said they don’t supply anything anymore as it’s all digital
PM me your email address and I’ll ping over what I have later PM👍
Also just noticed you are from God’s end of the East Lancs - I’m near the Airport👍
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Ah I drive through the airport every day, I live in north Manchester, but one of my studios is in Macclesfield, I spend most of my time there.
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Ah I drive through the airport every day, I live in north Manchester, but one of my studios is in Macclesfield, I spend most of my time there.
👍
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Check the spec label in your handbook, 230PS in KW is 169 so it should have that printed.
Dug out the manual…. This is the sticker
(https://i.postimg.cc/HLSGXqZ2/661-D504-C-7-C60-4-A9-E-9776-82-F0-C0599-AC2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I’ve not got chance to get under it anytime soon to see from under it
So its a mk7.5 - and its 169kw so it is a GTI non Perf.
Also hello from another northerner :)
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Can be cheaper and RHD. I read somewhere (on here I think) that rust protection may not be up to UK / EU standards as Japan does not salt roads in Winter, not sure how true that is though.
Such a Debbie Downer Adam..! The car was exported to Japan from Germany so I doubt VW withheld rust protection just cos it was an export from Germany.
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I don’t wish to be rude or go slightly off topic but what would be the advantage of importing a Golf from Japan?
Pardon my ignorance in advance.
Well since the UK voted leave, car buyers in the Republic of Ireland are screwed on VAT and Customs duty if we try and import a cars from UK anymore. Japanese cars are dirt cheap at auction and they are usually in amazing condition. The auction grades are very strict and reliable. The low cost of the car at auction offsets the shipping and taxes charges and represents amazing value. All RHD and speedos in KM etc. there’s entire motor dealerships sprung up all over Ireland with used Japanese cars and they are actually really good cars. Personally I just got mine direct as it saved about 5k on a dealer price.
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Can be cheaper and RHD. I read somewhere (on here I think) that rust protection may not be up to UK / EU standards as Japan does not salt roads in Winter, not sure how true that is though.
Such a Debbie Downer Adam..! The car was exported to Japan from Germany so I doubt VW withheld rust protection just cos it was an export from Germany.
😂👍