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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: star93 on 12 March 2017, 20:59
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Evening Guys!
Currently still very much enjoying my Mk7 tornado Red 3 door winter pack purchased back in September 2015. Just tentatively had a look at the part ex valuation against my finance agreement and surprisingly I'm a couple of hundred quid in the positive!
Has anyone test drove the new Mk7.5 yet? Or aware of any significant differences vs the late 2015 Mk7? Essentially Im look at this as an opportunity to get the gti with the DSG box, which was my only regret from last time!
Alternatively, I spoke to a dealer briefly last week and he said that the Mk8 was out 1H next year (2018)?!
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Nobody has driven one as far as I know but there are quite a few differences. Mainly in tech but not forgetting the new 7 speed dsg..
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Heard anything regarding when dealers are supposed to be getting the new one in?
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I'm tempted by the 7.5 R but this rumour of a mk8 next year might make me think again.
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Exactly what i'm thinking Peeair...., would be nice to get some clarification on it from VW
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New gen Polo next year but doubt the mk8 Golf will be along for a couple years.
The 7.5's have started arriving in dealer's already. Not seen any links on here to photos but at least two have been posted up on the R forum, one GTI & one R
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Where do the dealers get their info from? Is it pure speculation?
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New gen Polo next year but doubt the mk8 Golf will be along for a couple years.
The 7.5's have started arriving in dealer's already. Not seen any links on here to photos but at least two have been posted up on the R forum, one GTI & one R
Got a link? Never ventured over to the R forum before
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No car manufacturer goes to the trouble of bringing out a facelift model for such a short period, second quarter of 2019 at the earliest in my opinion.
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New gen Polo next year but doubt the mk8 Golf will be along for a couple years.
The 7.5's have started arriving in dealer's already. Not seen any links on here to photos but at least two have been posted up on the R forum, one GTI & one R
Got a link? Never ventured over to the R forum before
http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/18821-mk75-is-here/
You don't know what you're missing!
No car manufacturer goes to the trouble of bringing out a facelift model for such a short period, second quarter of 2019 at the earliest in my opinion.
Indeed!
Where do the dealers get their info from? Is it pure speculation?
Educated guesses for good dealers, gossip and speculation from others!
It's interesting that VW dealers refer to the FL Golf as a 7.5 as I'm pretty certain that title originated in forums and I've never VW call a model a .5 before.
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Very good point, never heard that.5 term nonsense before to describe a Face lift model, certainly not used in the car industry.
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I've seen ".5" being used for donkeys years. Mostly on forums admittedly. Usually for the Passat and Polo, which have had mid life facelifts more frequently than the Golf.
As for MK8, I'd guess it'd be mid-late 2019 before it's revealed... tricking into showrooms by early 2020.
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I've seen ".5" being used for donkeys years. Mostly on forums admittedly. Usually for the Passat and Polo, which have had mid life facelifts more frequently than the Golf.
As for MK8, I'd guess it'd be mid-late 2019 before it's revealed... tricking into showrooms by early 2020.
Yes, precisely, the .5 designation tends to be forum speak yet it's now been adopted by dealers (possibly orders from HQ?) which kind of answers the question of where dealers get a lot of their information and speculation from...
Snippets of internal gossip from VW and the good old internet.
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My work's lease company refer to it as "17.75", which I guess is a MY.
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Quite a lot to like but do not like the digital dash. Looks like my grandsons video game.
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Don't know about 7.5 being 'nonsense', it's just a way to distinguish it when talking sh1t online. 7.1 is probably more realistic for the level of changes. Better than 'LCI' however you look at it! :grin:
Not a chance of being as late as 2020 for the mk8 - from 2012 to 2020?!
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Not a chance of being as late as 2020 for the mk8 - from 2012 to 2020?!
It is now March 2017 and the Golf facelift is just starting to appear in the showrooms. You don't think there is a chance that the facelift will be around for 3 years? When I think about it - 2 years does sound a bit short!
In theory the Mk8 could be announced next year in 2018 for a 2019 release. However, as Jonny Logan once sang, "What's another year!"
The fact is we don't know. My educated guess is, the Mk8 Golf will be released and/or announced in 2019. :evil:
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Don't know about 7.5 being 'nonsense', it's just a way to distinguish it when talking sh1t online. 7.1 is probably more realistic for the level of changes. Better than 'LCI' however you look at it! :grin:
Not a chance of being as late as 2020 for the mk8 - from 2012 to 2020?!
Might not be far off. Surely they will give the facelift a couple of years at least which your then looking at 2019 for the MK8 and early 2020 for the performance golfs
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Thing is, if VW wanted to make the most out of their investment in the actual mechanical bit of the car (chasis, engines etc) then if you can swap some of the plug in technical modules out for newer ones, then it makes sense to do so.
To be rigidly bound to something like a 7/8 cycle makes no sense when the consumer buzz is about the rapidly moving technology. Some of you might not like it, but it does sell cars to the bulk of the public.
I wouldn't want to be trying to sell what is supposed to be the best selling car in the world when the competition had things like LED lights and decent mobile phone integration and your flagship model didn't.
When you are getting your butt kicked by a Dacia, you need to move with the times.
Thats why they have done the 7.5.
I remember back in 2013 when the Mk7 came out, its tech really was cutting edge....
The 8, well, I'd expect to see it touted late in 2018, maybe appearing in 2019.
But don't buy one of those, the 8.5 and 9 will be along soon ;-)
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Didn't the Mk6 refresh (LED tails/drls etc.) only last about 2 years before the Mk7 was released?
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Didn't the Mk6 refresh (LED tails/drls etc.) only last about 2 years before the Mk7 was released?
AFAIK those options were already available. They were just made standard.
Some people referred to the Mk6 as the Mk5.5. It was a bigger style change though. The facelift style changes are subtle. I do wonder if Joe Public will notice or will they look and think, "it's just another Golf!"
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The 8, well, I'd expect to see it touted late in 2018, maybe appearing in 2019.
But don't buy one of those, the 8.5 and 9 will be along soon ;-)
The 8.5 will be the one to wait for. They should have ironed out most of the Mk8 problems by then :wink: :grin:
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The mention of the Mk6 facelift has made me wonder -
How long before the facelift, Mk7.5, Mk7.1, Mk7v2, new/nouveau/neu Golf becomes just the Mk7 Golf?
Over on the Audi A3 8V forums the facelift is now just the A3. The original car is referred to as PFL A3.
On another note: My wife drives a PFL A3, she does not even notice the facelift A3. Just like the Golf, the changes are subtle. My parents have just changes their 9 year old Mercedes C220 Sport (grey) to a new C220 AMG (dark grey). I wonder will other people notice?
The Mk8 should look different, but to most people it will still be - just a Golf!
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The mention of the Mk6 facelift has made me wonder -
How long before the facelift, Mk7.5, Mk7.1, Mk7v2, new/nouveau/neu Golf becomes just the Mk7 Golf?
Over on the Audi A3 8V forums the facelift is now just the A3. The original car is referred to as PFL A3.
On another note: My wife drives a PFL A3, she does not even notice the facelift A3. Just like the Golf, the changes are subtle. My parents have just changes their 9 year old Mercedes C220 Sport (grey) to a new C220 AMG (dark grey). I wonder will other people notice?
The Mk8 should look different, but to most people it will still be - just a Golf!
Random thought of the day :grin: :grin:
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"PFL mk7" sounds a bit poo so we shall henceforth have "classic mk7" and 7.5 :whistle:
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Interesting you use the description "classic Mk7" cause that's my line of thought.
On 1 March I took delivery of one of the very last Reflex Silver Mk7s to be built and before I bought it (it was already being built as a speculative order for the dealer), I looked at and thought about the 7.5.
However, I think the Mk7 will in future be the "classic", not the 7.5 for reasons of just about all the changes that have been made.....apart from the extra 10hp!
I realise this will p*** off anyone who has ordered a 7.5 but it would be a boring old world without different views.
On another point, the very large dealer I bought the new GTI from has at least a dozen used Rs for sale and only one GTI (which is reserved). They sold my traded-in Mk7 GTI in less than a week.
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Some options, pick from the list:
Mk7
PFL7
Classic Mk7
Old Mk7
Retro Mk7
Technically challenged Mk7
Pre-internet Mk7
Meh 7
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Random thought of the day :grin: :grin:
Yup :grin:
Another random thought: Why would anyone who owns a Mk7 want to buy a Mk7.5. They are the same car.
"PFL mk7" sounds a bit poo so we shall henceforth have "classic mk7" and 7.5 :whistle:
I guess that sounds better than 'old fashioned' Mk7 :tongue: :grin:
Interesting you use the description "classic Mk7" cause that's my line of thought.
I realise this will p*** off anyone who has ordered a 7.5 but it would be a boring old world without different views.
They don't do reflex silver anymore :sad: and you will have proper dials :angry:
There are those who will prefer the Classic Mk7 style. It's just not for me. I prefer the updated/modernised look of the Mk7 facelift.
People are not going to be offended unless you start using offensive language about their car choice.
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Random thought of the day :grin: :grin:
Yup :grin:
Another random thought: Why would anyone who owns a Mk7 want to buy a Mk7.5. They are the same car.
I personally wouldn't move from a GTI to a FL GTI but I would be tempted to move to a FL R. I appear to be one of the few who like the new TFT display and the new DRL's. Think the small styling changes make a nice difference but still too conservative for me and not aggressive enough. Now add the akraprovic exhaust system and it becomes very tempting
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Random thought of the day :grin: :grin:
Yup :grin:
Another random thought: Why would anyone who owns a Mk7 want to buy a Mk7.5. They are the same car.
I personally wouldn't move from a GTI to a FL GTI but I would be tempted to move to a FL R. I appear to be one of the few who like the new TFT display and the new DRL's. Think the small styling changes make a nice difference but still too conservative for me and not aggressive enough. Now add the akraprovic exhaust system and it becomes very tempting
With you all the way, there Craig. Are you with me on the Tumeric Yellow? Love a good curry!
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Random thought of the day :grin: :grin:
Yup :grin:
Another random thought: Why would anyone who owns a Mk7 want to buy a Mk7.5. They are the same car.
I personally wouldn't move from a GTI to a FL GTI but I would be tempted to move to a FL R. I appear to be one of the few who like the new TFT display and the new DRL's. Think the small styling changes make a nice difference but still too conservative for me and not aggressive enough. Now add the akraprovic exhaust system and it becomes very tempting
That's similar to my thinking on moving from a Mk6 GTD to a Mk7 GTD. My test drives left me thinking that the performance, economy and comfort are only slightly better on the Mk7 GTD. Undoubtedly, the Mk7 is more refined in every way. However, for me, the differences were not significant enough to make me want to change. (I did like the progressive steering though and the ACC on my wife's car has grown on me.)
Now my circumstances have changed. This means I can now consider a petrol car. I was very tempted by the Golf R, but I have never had a GTI before. So for me it is as much about moving between models as it is about moving between generations. I'm hoping to notice a significant difference moving from a Mk6 GTD to a Mk7.5 GTI/PP.
Having said all that - if I hadn't liked the style of the facelift, I would probably have kept my car and waited for the Mk8.
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Random thought of the day :grin: :grin:
Yup :grin:
Another random thought: Why would anyone who owns a Mk7 want to buy a Mk7.5. They are the same car.
I personally wouldn't move from a GTI to a FL GTI but I would be tempted to move to a FL R. I appear to be one of the few who like the new TFT display and the new DRL's. Think the small styling changes make a nice difference but still too conservative for me and not aggressive enough. Now add the akraprovic exhaust system and it becomes very tempting
With you all the way, there Craig. Are you with me on the Tumeric Yellow? Love a good curry!
I tell you that colour on the R at the Geneva motor show looked pretty good to me.
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Came across this video tonight. That R looks amazing!! :evil:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-7XQncmFso (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-7XQncmFso)
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Came across this video tonight. That R looks amazing!! :evil:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-7XQncmFso (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-7XQncmFso)
Cool. Looks like that was taken at an Irish dealers.
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Not tempted by a CS Craig ?
I see gti world in Edinburgh had just taken 4 into stock.. All lacking th nice seats though I think..
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Not tempted by a CS Craig ?
I see gti world in Edinburgh had just taken 4 into stock.. All lacking th nice seats though I think..
I saw that Andy and at just under £30k it looks like a very good deal. The white one in particular looked stunning but as you pointed out I don't think it has the buckets and that would be a deal breaker.
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Came across this video tonight. That R looks amazing!! :evil:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-7XQncmFso (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-7XQncmFso)
Cool. Looks like that was taken at an Irish dealers.
Yes, I was thinking that myself. RHD with clocks in KM/h :smiley:
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Came across this video tonight. That R looks amazing!! :evil:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-7XQncmFso (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-7XQncmFso)
Cool. Looks like that was taken at an Irish dealers.
Yes, I was thinking that myself. RHD with clocks in KM/h :smiley:
The very handy thing with the Active display is that changing from MPH to KPH will be really straightforward... probably just a setting in the MFD. I know you guys in the UK have a very cluttered speedo with both MPH and (small) KPH, but the active info should allow you choose one or the other. From an Irish perspective, we get in a lot of used UK imports, so people buying those cars in a few years will be able to switch the clocks to KPH easily...
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Just had a finance quote there for the new mk7.5 (DSG/PP) and it is coming out only an extra £10pm more than my current mk 7(manual/no PP) payment.......no brainer?
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Came across this video tonight. That R looks amazing!! :evil:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-7XQncmFso (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-7XQncmFso)
Cool. Looks like that was taken at an Irish dealers.
Yes, I was thinking that myself. RHD with clocks in KM/h :smiley:
The very handy thing with the Active display is that changing from MPH to KPH will be really straightforward... probably just a setting in the MFD. I know you guys in the UK have a very cluttered speedo with both MPH and (small) KPH, but the active info should allow you choose one or the other. From an Irish perspective, we get in a lot of used UK imports, so people buying those cars in a few years will be able to switch the clocks to KPH easily...
You're right Joe, the display is pretty cluttered with the km/h figures on the dials. Certainly looking at the Irish and European cars, the dial is a lot less cluttered. I also ride bikes and the R6 I have has a digital dash and that's really handy to change to KM for trips over the border, so I'd say it's possible. Would probably cut down on manufacturing costs too with VW having to make one Activ Info Display for both markets! :wink:
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Right, the Km/MPH thing has further sold me on the digi-dash! Our UK speedos are a horrible mess. Why we have to have both I have no idea. If anything, we lose clarity, although, of course, it is something you get used to. Looks awful though, so a nice clean digi-dash, with just MPH markings, will be great.
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I don't have a problem with the current UK dials in MPH/KMH. Pretty much all of my cars have had this, so its hardly something new to cope with.
When I am in Europe though I do select KMH as the unit of speed measurement in the MIB and then set the MFD display (between the clocks) to speed so I can be 100% certain of my speed in KMH without having to resort to the tiny KMH figures on the dial.
Would be even better on the new active display though...
I don't know about all of the negative vibes people have about active display - the likes of supercars have had them for years. Would you really say "I like the lambo but could never cope with the digital dash..."
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Right, the Km/MPH thing has further sold me on the digi-dash! Our UK speedos are a horrible mess. Why we have to have both I have no idea. If anything, we lose clarity, although, of course, it is something you get used to. Looks awful though, so a nice clean digi-dash, with just MPH markings, will be great.
The reason we have it is probably down to European rules. Not going to be a problem in two years time now. :whistle:
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The reason we have it is probably down to European rules. Not going to be a problem in two years time now. :whistle:
I don't think it is actually, I am sure I had at least one car without it since 1974!
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The reason we have it is probably down to European rules. Not going to be a problem in two years time now. :whistle:
I don't think it is actually, I am sure I had at least one car without it since 1974!
So have I, plenty of cars without it years ago(I think) but rules change all the time. From the 1/4/84 all cars in the U.K. have to show mph and kph either simultaneously or separately.
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Another tick for the 3 series - HUD can be configured in metric and imperial so you can set the sport dials to BHP and Lb Ft or KW and NM similarly you can set the HUD to show kmH it was fantastic on a trip to France last year then you avoid need to look at the speedo ever.
I know I bang on about how good the HUD is in the 3 series but why don't VW bring some tech like that to top end Golfs it is just fantastic when driving fast .. And far more use than waving your hand at the dashboard or flowing indicators
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http://imgur.com/PLXHh9R
http://imgur.com/jG75OZ1
Not very clear but you can probably see the HUD showing iPod songs on right and mph on left.
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I don't know why they don't offer a HUD this time around... the Passat has had it for a while, along with other premium brands like BMW....and Kia.