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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: vipergts on 23 November 2016, 20:21
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OK, so we can all see where we are all at lets try and keep it on topic
MY CS-S IS ON THE BOAT. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Marked "priority" too
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Mine is sitting outside the factory.
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Black - on stage 5 - left the factory and in transit ...
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We have 2 customers cars in U.K. Port, hoping they get to us early next week. One white and the other red...
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Mine is on a boat too :) (status 39)
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Mine is now released for shipping :laugh:
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I have just got a Reply from Dealer and he says most cars are kept at Eden Docks for a few weeks, so probably looking Mid December, which is fine and will get 2017 Plate ...
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It's now IN THE COUNTRY
Which is Sheerness about 30 miles away
So it's looking like delivery next week for me
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I have just got a Reply from Dealer and he says most cars are kept at Eden Docks for a few weeks, so probably looking Mid December, which is fine and will get 2017 Plate ...
Unless you register it for March 1st 2017 or later, you won't get a 2017 plate. Emden docks hold-up usually depends on how much shipping traffic there is. As a Teessider, it should be coming to Port of Tyne if you ordered locally, it might only be there in Emden a week due to the constant traffic between Emden and Tyne to pick up Sunderland built Nissans and drop them off in the Netherlands on the way back to Emden. 3 Days in Tyne before heading to the dealership is the norm for the Lookers and Pulman North East branches.
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I have just got a Reply from Dealer and he says most cars are kept at Eden Docks for a few weeks, so probably looking Mid December, which is fine and will get 2017 Plate ...
Unless you register it for March 1st 2017 or later, you won't get a 2017 plate. Emden docks hold-up usually depends on how much shipping traffic there is. As a Teessider, it should be coming to Port of Tyne if you ordered locally, it might only be there in Emden a week due to the constant traffic between Emden and Tyne to pick up Sunderland built Nissans and drop them off in the Netherlands on the way back to Emden. 3 Days in Tyne before heading to the dealership is the norm for the Lookers and Pulman North East branches.
He probably meant a 2017 reg date so it will be a 2017/66 rather than 2016/66.
Only benefit really is if you sell to territories that use the year on the reg like Republic of Ireland.
In the UK most people think 2017/66 or 2014/63 or 2011/60 etc is a typo
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A tech from Harrogate BW has posted a couple of photos on instagram of car number 250/400
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Finally found some pictures of a Deep black Pearl CS-S on Insta - looks like it comes with Black wheels ... :laugh: :grin: :laugh: :grin:
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Good to see they have actually numbered them in front of the Gear Lever, saw an email this week stating:
"Each vehicle will be given a Special Unique Number when they land in the UK and before transport to your site"
Pleased to see they haven't just put a similar plaque to the CS.
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Finally found some pictures of a Deep black Pearl CS-S on Insta - looks like it comes with Black wheels ... :laugh: :grin: :laugh: :grin:
Really?
Please post!
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German spec cars are all with black wheels I believe. Looks like that won't be the case for UK.
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If that's the case regarding the wheels then I will get mine painted to OEM black :whistle:
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It's tempting to do that, but is it better to keep it original?
Also tempting to add app connect and voice control as a dealer option. Another £400 odd down the drain :whistle:
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I really wish these weren't rare or desirable and fetching overs
I bought mine to rag and now I'm feeling the the pressure to preserve it and park it up in my unit with all the rest of the dust covered, C-Tek monitered low mileage, highly polished sausages. :angry:
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I really wish these weren't rare or desirable and fetching overs
I bought mine to rag and now I'm feeling the the pressure to preserve it and park it up in my unit with all the rest of the dust covered, C-Tek monitered low mileage, highly polished sausages. :angry:
Easy, buy another one to keep and average out the return over the one you use and enjoy? :smiley:
To be fair, the potential return is hardly life changing!
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Drive it.
Its alot more fun than looking at it.
Mrs LRW will be using her CS on track to gain a bit of experience for her ARDS over winter.
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Good to see they have actually numbered them in front of the Gear Lever, saw an email this week stating:
"Each vehicle will be given a Special Unique Number when they land in the UK and before transport to your site"
Pleased to see they haven't just put a similar plaque to the CS.
The white press car was 000/250 on the gearlever
This is the Harrogate VW tech's instagram page, can't even see for sure it's a RHD car from the 2 pics but it's white and has silver Pretoria wheels.
https://www.instagram.com/samuelridsdale/
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I really wish these weren't rare or desirable and fetching overs
I bought mine to rag and now I'm feeling the the pressure to preserve it and park it up in my unit with all the rest of the dust covered, C-Tek monitered low mileage, highly polished sausages. :angry:
Either way Viper, it's a Win Win ... drive her as a daily, rack up 6k a year with some stone chips and you will sell it allot easier than an overly pampered, overly priced collectors piece ... it is only a VW after all and the perfect hot hatch ... fun with zero depreciation 👍
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It's tempting to do that, but is it better to keep it original?
Also tempting to add app connect and voice control as a dealer option. Another £400 odd down the drain :whistle:
JJ - how will it hurt its originality when the German CS-S cars have black wheels opposed to silver ??! And look way better .?????!!! :rolleyes:
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How do you know German customer cars have black wheels?
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Yes agreed, Very little return in the whole scheme of things.
Trouble is I love anything old and like brand new. I'm thinking of 20 years time when I'm brown bread :wink:
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It's tempting to do that, but is it better to keep it original?
Also tempting to add app connect and voice control as a dealer option. Another £400 odd down the drain :whistle:
JJ - how will it hurt its originality when the German CS-S cars have black wheels opposed to silver ??! And look way better .?????!!! :rolleyes:
I don't know hence the question mark.
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Volkswizard, there have been quite a few photos of German cars being delivered:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1761507054117696/
There now also appears to be a Clubsport on Pistonheads trumping the Clubsport S on price at £46,800
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/volkswagen-golf-2-0-tsi-gti-clubsport-40-5dr-dsg/6521759
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On the other hand,
A 5 door, 2.5k mile, white manual box, regular CS here at a VW main dealer for £27,460.
Click> http://tinyurl.com/CheapClubsport
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Yes £20K less. I know which one I'd take.
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People can ask what they like, the price sold is the only number that counts.
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Yes agreed, Very little return in the whole scheme of things.
Trouble is I love anything old and like brand new. I'm thinking of 20 years time when I'm brown bread :wink:
Viper - I understand your view point ... and I think that the CS-S maybe one of those cars that might just be a long term keeper. I had an S54 Z3 M coupe in Steel grey and regret every day selling it and will always be more attached to it than the GT4 ... chrachter is what makes a keeper, not necessarily the fastest or best car but the one that you feel something for ❤️
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Yes agreed, Very little return in the whole scheme of things.
Trouble is I love anything old and like brand new. I'm thinking of 20 years time when I'm brown bread :wink:
Viper - I understand your view point ... and I think that the CS-S maybe one of those cars that might just be a long term keeper. I had an S54 Z3 M coupe in Steel grey and regret every day selling it and will always be more attached to it than the GT4 ... chrachter is what makes a keeper, not necessarily the fastest or best car but the one that you feel something for ❤️
Absolutely.
I have a strange and eclectic taste in cars, right across the spectrum. Recently I have been getting into some more usable classics and selling off the minters though, I now have a good mix of both
Example of which is that I just sold a perfect 107 500SL, an 89 with 4000 miles. (I love the old Mercs) I could never use it as the value of it is in the mileage. Apart from the appreciation a pointless car to keep.
I'm of the age where I'm just protecting them for the next owner (probably my nippers) We're a long time dead :rolleyes:
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mine is now on a ship :smiley:
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My one is still sitting at Emden docks. Has been for close to 3 weeks for some reason. Would have thought a loaded ship with VAG motors would have departed for the Port of Tyne within that time scale by now.
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After 3 weeks, mine too is still at Emden, destination Shearness.
If you are really sad you can follow the ships on http://www.marinetraffic.com/
The African Highway is one VWG use from Emden, it has been to Shearness recently and is currently just returning to Emden after dropping off at Grimsby.
Can't see any other vehicle carrier in or around these ports so wonder if it's working solo?
If Jjgreenwood's car is on a boat there must be another heading for Shearness but I can't see it.
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mine is now on a ship :smiley:
How do you know?
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We have a red and white arriving tomorrow 😁
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mine is now on a ship :smiley:
How do you know?
He's a dealer!
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Our white one is now status 40 and assigned to UK stock, dealers says they could receive the car at some point this week :)
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mine is now on a ship :smiley:
How do you know?
He's a dealer!
Yeah forgot that :grin:
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TOMORROW....TOMORROW....TOMORROW
Collection day :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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After 3 weeks, mine too is still at Emden, destination Sheerness.
If you are really sad you can follow the ships on http://www.marinetraffic.com/
The African Highway is one VWG use from Emden, it has been to Sheerness recently and is currently just returning to Emden after dropping off at Grimsby.
Can't see any other vehicle carrier in or around these ports so wonder if it's working solo?
If Jjgreenwood's car is on a boat there must be another heading for Sheerness but I can't see it.
The African Highway departed Emden today heading for Sheerness, SURELY mine has to be on that?
I wonder when Jjgreenwood's car was flagged as being on ship it was actually just allocated to a ship, bit like check in when you get a ferry?
The reason I say that is because no ships have been to Sheerness from Emden since the post was made saying it was on a ship.
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We have a red and white arriving tomorrow 😁
Did they arrive?
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TOMORROW....TOMORROW....TOMORROW
Collection day :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Lucky boy, amazed they managed to get it in on the last day of the month, when did it arrive at dealer?
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After 3 weeks, mine too is still at Emden, destination Sheerness.
If you are really sad you can follow the ships on http://www.marinetraffic.com/
The African Highway is one VWG use from Emden, it has been to Sheerness recently and is currently just returning to Emden after dropping off at Grimsby.
Can't see any other vehicle carrier in or around these ports so wonder if it's working solo?
If Jjgreenwood's car is on a boat there must be another heading for Sheerness but I can't see it.
The African Highway departed Emden today heading for Sheerness, SURELY mine has to be on that?
I wonder when Jjgreenwood's car was flagged as being on ship it was actually just allocated to a ship, bit like check in when you get a ferry?
The reason I say that is because no ships have been to Sheerness from Emden since the post was made saying it was on a ship.
mine is at the UK port now. I still have one at the factory waiting for its software update and another one waiting to be shipped.
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After 3 weeks, mine too is still at Emden, destination Sheerness.
If you are really sad you can follow the ships on http://www.marinetraffic.com/
The African Highway is one VWG use from Emden, it has been to Sheerness recently and is currently just returning to Emden after dropping off at Grimsby.
Can't see any other vehicle carrier in or around these ports so wonder if it's working solo?
If Jjgreenwood's car is on a boat there must be another heading for Sheerness but I can't see it.
OK, thanks for the update, maybe there is some lag in the system?
The African Highway departed Emden today heading for Sheerness, SURELY mine has to be on that?
I wonder when Jjgreenwood's car was flagged as being on ship it was actually just allocated to a ship, bit like check in when you get a ferry?
The reason I say that is because no ships have been to Sheerness from Emden since the post was made saying it was on a ship.
mine is at the UK port now. I still have one at the factory waiting for its software update and another one waiting to be shipped.
Is there any correlation between colour and delivery time?
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TOMORROW....TOMORROW....TOMORROW
Collection day :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Lucky boy, amazed they managed to get it in on the last day of the month, when did it arrive at dealer?
It arrives at the Dealer tomorrow morning. Fingers crossed
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Yeah both arrived 🤗
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Gonna put in a request to Santa to see if he can help out.
Starting to get a little bit disillusioned by the whole thing. :sad:
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TOMORROW....TOMORROW....TOMORROW
Collection day :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Lucky boy, amazed they managed to get it in on the last day of the month, when did it arrive at dealer?
It arrives at the Dealer tomorrow morning. Fingers crossed
Same day in and out!?
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Same day in and out would be impressive!
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Mine will be in and out same day too :grin:
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I cant remember what that's like....... :whistle:
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One new for sale on the MK7 for sale section.Only being advertised on this site!. :shocked:
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TOMORROW....TOMORROW....TOMORROW
Collection day :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Lucky boy, amazed they managed to get it in on the last day of the month, when did it arrive at dealer?
It arrives at the Dealer tomorrow morning. Fingers crossed
Same day in and out!?
Yeah I'm in a rush
PDI is only checking wheel nuts these days
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After 3 weeks, mine too is still at Emden, destination Sheerness.
If you are really sad you can follow the ships on http://www.marinetraffic.com/
The African Highway is one VWG use from Emden, it has been to Sheerness recently and is currently just returning to Emden after dropping off at Grimsby.
Can't see any other vehicle carrier in or around these ports so wonder if it's working solo?
If Jjgreenwood's car is on a boat there must be another heading for Sheerness but I can't see it.
OK, thanks for the update, maybe there is some lag in the system?
The African Highway departed Emden today heading for Sheerness, SURELY mine has to be on that?
I wonder when Jjgreenwood's car was flagged as being on ship it was actually just allocated to a ship, bit like check in when you get a ferry?
The reason I say that is because no ships have been to Sheerness from Emden since the post was made saying it was on a ship.
mine is at the UK port now. I still have one at the factory waiting for its software update and another one waiting to be shipped.
Is there any correlation between colour and delivery time?
Not as far as I can tell, my first one into the country is white and my one left at the factory is white.
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Pdi is more than just checking wheel nuts so you'll be extremely lucky to have it done in a day. They don't even come from the factory with the correct volume of fluids!
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Pdi is more than just checking wheel nuts so you'll be extremely lucky to have it done in a day. They don't even come from the factory with the correct volume of fluids!
Possible though, my Dad's GTD was in his hands 5 hours after it hit the dealership - they should pull out all the stops for a VW customer who has paid full RRP or close to it. Not a particularly busy time for dealerships right now, being between plates.
Transit films and packing off, residues removed, multipoint inspection, top ups, plates on, quick valet and wash (probably a few other things too).
When's your GTI due Chris?
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One new for sale on the MK7 for sale section.Only being advertised on this site!. :shocked:
He was already offered profit so must be out there for sale already somehow.
No a/c, red, 1 of 5 and buyer called Smith probably, easy enough for VW UK to work out if they wanted to deal with speculators but I bet they won't.
With regards to a/c or not, I will be amazed if deleting it increases desirability, your comments please..🤔
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For those of you of a sad disposition the VW ship African Highway is on its approach to Sheerness this morning, fingers crossed it will deliver a few more CSS's
(https://instagram.com/p/BNbZIJjjmZH/)
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TOMORROW....TOMORROW....TOMORROW
Collection day :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Viper - Did you get it - whats it like ... "anticipation" :shocked:
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TOMORROW....TOMORROW....TOMORROW
Collection day :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Viper - Did you get it - whats it like ... "anticipation" :shocked:
No of course not
If anything was gonna go wrong it will
Load of old crap but my dealer called me first thing this morning to report that the transporter had issues because of the cold weather and probably wont be delivered to them until end of today.
That's no good to me now because it's booked in all day tomorrow for PPF ready for me to spray it's underside with ACF50 friday morn and off to Silverstone PM for track day at Silverstone Saturday
So I said that's NFG and I might as well not take it until new year
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TOMORROW....TOMORROW....TOMORROW
Collection day :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Viper - Did you get it - whats it like ... "anticipation" :shocked:
No of course not
If anything was gonna go wrong it will
Load of old crap but my dealer called me first thing this morning to report that the transporter had issues because of the cold weather and probably wont be delivered to them until end of today.
That's no good to me now because it's booked in all day tomorrow for PPF ready for me to spray it's underside with ACF50 friday morn and off to Silverstone PM for track day at Silverstone Saturday
So I said that's NFG and I might as well not take it until new year
Were you seriously going to rag it round a track on its first few days?
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TOMORROW....TOMORROW....TOMORROW
Collection day :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Viper - Did you get it - whats it like ... "anticipation" :shocked:
No of course not
If anything was gonna go wrong it will
Load of old crap but my dealer called me first thing this morning to report that the transporter had issues because of the cold weather and probably wont be delivered to them until end of today.
That's no good to me now because it's booked in all day tomorrow for PPF ready for me to spray it's underside with ACF50 friday morn and off to Silverstone PM for track day at Silverstone Saturday
So I said that's NFG and I might as well not take it until new year
I just rang VW UK for an update and they said it arrived at Emden yesterday.
Now bear in mind I was told it was at Emden by the retailer in October and again on 14/11 by VW UK I was a bit confused - I don't mind delays but I do mind contradictory information coming from the horse's mouth.
Looking more like New Year for me too.
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Yeah both arrived 🤗
Pics or it didn't happen :wink:
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Well seems there's finally movement on mine. Tracker moved this morning, to in transit.
Wonder if it's on the boat to Sheerness? Would be a strange decision as they would then have to the transport it up to Scotland from the furthest away port.
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Well seems there's finally movement on mine. Tracker moved this morning, to in transit.
Wonder if it's on the boat to Sheerness? Would be a strange decision as they would then have to the transport it up to Scotland from the furthest away port.
Glad you have had some progress.
The bad news is in transit just means it has left the factory, mine has been like this many weeks.
The online tracker doesn't change now until it's arrived in the UK but I wouldn't hold your breath.
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TOMORROW....TOMORROW....TOMORROW
Collection day :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Viper - Did you get it - whats it like ... "anticipation" :shocked:
No of course not
If anything was gonna go wrong it will
Load of old crap but my dealer called me first thing this morning to report that the transporter had issues because of the cold weather and probably wont be delivered to them until end of today.
That's no good to me now because it's booked in all day tomorrow for PPF ready for me to spray it's underside with ACF50 friday morn and off to Silverstone PM for track day at Silverstone Saturday
So I said that's NFG and I might as well not take it until new year
Were you seriously going to rag it round a track on its first few days?
Not so much "rag" but tuition for my nippers under expert guidance
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When i was in at the dealers last week, got them to check and the vw dealer system said it was sitting at Emden docks.
Its now moved to: its on the final stage of the journey to the uk on the customer tracker and delivery usually takes 10 days.
Will pop in tomorrow to see what the actually script is.
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When i was in at the dealers last week, got them to check and the vw dealer system said it was sitting at Emden docks.
Its now moved to: its on the final stage of the journey to the uk on the customer tracker and delivery usually takes 10 days.
Will pop in tomorrow to see what the actually script is.
Yours should be "Arrived in UK" then as when it's "In Transit" it says;
"Your car is on the next stage of its journey to the UK. On average it takes 3 weeks for this model to reach your local Volkswagen Retailer."
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Just spoke to the dealer. The css is on a ship and is due into Tyne docks today at some point.
Should have better idea i'm informed by friday, on a delivery date to the dealers.
So hopefully anybody else from Scotland or the North of England waiting might be in luck as well.
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Just spoke to the dealer. The css is on a ship and is due into Tyne docks today at some point.
Should have better idea i'm informed by friday, on a delivery date to the dealers.
So hopefully anybody else from Scotland or the North of England waiting might be in luck as well.
If you are bored check out www.marinetraffic.com
I can't see any car carrying ship heading from Tyne from Emden right now.
The Neckar Highway is Emden and just leaving for Grimsby.
I think VW are a bit flexible about which port your car lands at, my friends CS came to the Midlands via Sheerness
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Just spoke to the dealer. The css is on a ship and is due into Tyne docks today at some point.
Should have better idea i'm informed by friday, on a delivery date to the dealers.
So hopefully anybody else from Scotland or the North of England waiting might be in luck as well.
If you are bored check out www.marinetraffic.com
I can't see any car carrying ship heading from Tyne from Emden right now.
The Neckar Highway is Emden and just leaving for Grimsby.
I think VW are a bit flexible about which port your car lands at, my friends CS came to the Midlands via Sheerness
Nordic Ace.... :laugh:
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Never in 8 new VWs have I had a car supplied at a Tyne and Wear dealership that didn't come through Tyne port, everything Teesside and North of it should be coming into Tyne as a general rule.
I can see the ships coming in from my living room window, usually averages 5 ships a fortnight (a rotation of 3 "city of [insert city here]" ships) bringing VWs from Emden and picking up Nissans made at Sunderland.
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TOMORROW....TOMORROW....TOMORROW
Collection day :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Viper - Did you get it - whats it like ... "anticipation" :shocked:
No of course not
If anything was gonna go wrong it will
Load of old crap but my dealer called me first thing this morning to report that the transporter had issues because of the cold weather and probably wont be delivered to them until end of today.
That's no good to me now because it's booked in all day tomorrow for PPF ready for me to spray it's underside with ACF50 friday morn and off to Silverstone PM for track day at Silverstone Saturday
So I said that's NFG and I might as well not take it until new year
Viper - I don't think VW will be going down this low volume limited edition route for some time ... they are obviously more used to high volume cars ... You must be so annoyed !! :evil:
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Never in 8 new VWs have I had a car supplied at a Tyne and Wear dealership that didn't come through Tyne port, everything Teesside and North of it should be coming into Tyne as a general rule.
I can see the ships coming in from my living room window, usually averages 5 ships a fortnight (a rotation of 3 "city of [insert city here]" ships) bringing VWs from Emden and picking up Nissans made at Sunderland.
That's only 8 cars out of hundreds of thousands sold in your area over that period so doesn't really prove that some cars might come from Grimsby.
Is it possible the ship goes to Grimsby first then Tyne?
From what I've observed, they all seem to dock at Emden in the morning, fill up during the day then sail over night, unloading on the following day and returning to Emden overnight again.
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The Tyne ships unload at Tyne from Emden, pick up Nissans, drop them up in Helsinki, back to Tyne, pick up more Nissans, drop them in Amsterdam and then head back to Emden for more VAGs. When waiting 8.5 months for my R, I spent a fair bit of time looking up marine traffic. :whistle:
The shipping process is as efficient as it can be, they will do their utmost not to send a Tyne-Tees or Scottish VW over from Hull or Sheerness.
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The Tyne ships unload at Tyne from Emden, pick up Nissans, drop them up in Helsinki, back to Tyne, pick up more Nissans, drop them in Amsterdam and then head back to Emden for more VAGs. When waiting 8.5 months for my R, I spent a fair bit of time looking up marine traffic. :whistle:
The shipping process is as efficient as it can be, they will do their utmost not to send a Tyne-Tees or Scottish VW over from Hull or Sheerness.
Did you find marinetraffic accurate ?
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Just spoke to the dealer. The css is on a ship and is due into Tyne docks today at some point.
Should have better idea i'm informed by friday, on a delivery date to the dealers.
So hopefully anybody else from Scotland or the North of England waiting might be in luck as well.
If you are bored check out www.marinetraffic.com
I can't see any car carrying ship heading from Tyne from Emden right now.
The Neckar Highway is Emden and just leaving for Grimsby.
I think VW are a bit flexible about which port your car lands at, my friends CS came to the Midlands via Sheerness
Nordic Ace.... :laugh:
Good point, not sure how I missed that but that's at Tyne now
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TOMORROW....TOMORROW....TOMORROW
Collection day :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Viper - Did you get it - whats it like ... "anticipation" :shocked:
No of course not
If anything was gonna go wrong it will
Load of old crap but my dealer called me first thing this morning to report that the transporter had issues because of the cold weather and probably wont be delivered to them until end of today.
That's no good to me now because it's booked in all day tomorrow for PPF ready for me to spray it's underside with ACF50 friday morn and off to Silverstone PM for track day at Silverstone Saturday
So I said that's NFG and I might as well not take it until new year
Viper - I don't think VW will be going down this low volume limited edition route for some time ... they are obviously more used to high volume cars ... You must be so annoyed !! :evil:
There is a high risk that we will all experience the frustration caused by the marketeers selling us a car on how special it is but then being treated from delivery onwards (and seemingly before then) just like every other punter and it's made worse by having paid full whack unlike nearly every other car they've sold.
Hopefully it wont happen... :cool:
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We have one in the showroom, if someone would like to pm me there email I will send some pics tomorrow 😁
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Just spoke to the dealer. The css is on a ship and is due into Tyne docks today at some point.
Should have better idea i'm informed by friday, on a delivery date to the dealers.
So hopefully anybody else from Scotland or the North of England waiting might be in luck as well.
If you are bored check out www.marinetraffic.com
I can't see any car carrying ship heading from Tyne from Emden right now.
The Neckar Highway is Emden and just leaving for Grimsby.
I think VW are a bit flexible about which port your car lands at, my friends CS came to the Midlands via Sheerness
Nordic Ace.... :laugh:
Good point, not sure how I missed that but that's at Tyne now
I know it left Emden yesterday, have been keeping an eye on it. African Highway hit Sheerness today too.
I'm hoping my car is on Nordic Ace, as it's being sorted through Lookers Newcastle :-)
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We have one in the showroom, if someone would like to pm me there email I will send some pics tomorrow 😁
Don't be a tease and just post them on here
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The Tyne ships unload at Tyne from Emden, pick up Nissans, drop them up in Helsinki, back to Tyne, pick up more Nissans, drop them in Amsterdam and then head back to Emden for more VAGs. When waiting 8.5 months for my R, I spent a fair bit of time looking up marine traffic. :whistle:
The shipping process is as efficient as it can be, they will do their utmost not to send a Tyne-Tees or Scottish VW over from Hull or Sheerness.
Did you find marinetraffic accurate ?
Yes, although I am able to check whether a ship due in actually comes in as expected (if i'm not at work) as my house overlooks the Tyne, about 1/2 a mile in from Tynemouth, with the Royal Quays docking point about a mile past my house. There was another website I also used, can't remember what it was offhand, but I had to register to use it.
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We have one in the showroom, if someone would like to pm me there email I will send some pics tomorrow 😁
Big thanks Evo ... it appears that the uk 🇬🇧 CS-S cars don't come with Black roofs, as quoted by VW on the official launch ...?! Not a problem for the black cars but I would be disappointed if I had ordered red or white ...?!
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Any pics yest chaps?
Keep checking this thread in anticipation of some juicy shots of harness bars, cages brakes and other exciting stuff.
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Just got confirmation that the car was on the Nordic Ace. So is officially sitting in the uk. :smiley:
So now the wait on transportation, which at this time of year should be quite quick.
And the minute it arrives,it'll be straight for a pdi. Has benefits being friends with the service and sales managers!!
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well I've just received a video from my dealer, and my Tornado red car has landed :)
Number 235/400
citnow video https://video.citnow.com/vtbCmjGGK4
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well I've just received a video from my dealer, and my Tornado red car has landed :)
Number 235/400
citnow video https://video.citnow.com/vtbCmjGGK4c
Congrats .... Andrew
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well I've just received a video from my dealer, and my Tornado red car has landed :)
Number 235/400
citnow video https://video.citnow.com/vtbCmjGGK4c
Congrats .... Andrew
cheers, I've asked the salesman to check the roof, but as per the FB group im sure he's going to turn around and say its "red"..
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well I've just received a video from my dealer, and my Tornado red car has landed :)
Number 235/400
citnow video https://video.citnow.com/vtbCmjGGK4c
Congrats .... Andrew
cheers, I've asked the salesman to check the roof, but as per the FB group im sure he's going to turn around and say its "red"..
Fingers crossed for you ... 🚗🙏
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Bit odd these, checked the one we have here. No black roof but have got convenience pack so has auto wipers, lights etc. Wasn't supposed to come with that. Also has a camera in the middle on the front bumper but no Adaptive cruise, or indeed cruise of any type so perhaps it has city emergency stop too.
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That is shocking
No black roof?
I'm pissed off about that.
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Any pics yest chaps?
Keep checking this thread in anticipation of some juicy shots of harness bars, cages brakes and other exciting stuff.
No cages fitted in theses
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Bit odd these, checked the one we have here. No black roof but have got convenience pack so has auto wipers, lights etc. Wasn't supposed to come with that. Also has a camera in the middle on the front bumper but no Adaptive cruise, or indeed cruise of any type so perhaps it has city emergency stop too.
Are you really saying the JesusGolf comes with a total bodge of equipment?
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Bit pissed off as well with the lack of black roof.
Are all the extras down to vw uk thinking that the market over here demands them or have they've been fitted to all 400?
The front radar has always annoyed me as it looks sh!t!! (suppose it'll help insurance premiums though)
Gonna have to find out if the solid grill is available to order.
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well I've just been offered 2 services for £149.00 as the CS-S is part of the Golf campaign, but doesn't include the Finance contribution.. :whistle:
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That is shocking
No black roof?
I'm pissed off about that.
I'd be if I didn't have a black car.
I thought they only gave a Pearl colour (black) FOC because red and white got the extra cost black roof.
I hate the sodding front assist radar, did wonder about UK insurance repercussions of not having it. Probably would be an admin nightmare without it for VW. On Mk8 it's invisibly integrated into VW badge.
Any confirmation on parking sensors? The white press car had rear but no front.
On plus side it looks like we get the tasty GTI mats of the Ed40
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Some pics of a white UK car here (WHITE ROOF!)
(and a grey Ed40)
https://www.instagram.com/volkswizard.co.uk/
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That is shocking
No black roof?
I'm pissed off about that.
I'd be if I didn't have a black car.
I thought they only gave a Pearl colour (black) FOC because red and white got the extra cost black roof.
I hate the sodding front assist radar, did wonder about UK insurance repercussions of not having it. Probably would be an admin nightmare without it for VW. On Mk8 it's invisibly integrated into VW badge.
Any confirmation on parking sensors? The white press car had rear but no front.
On plus side it looks like we get the tasty GTI mats of the Ed40
Exactly what I thought, and I share your feelings about the camera. I don't think it does have sensors but I'll take another look next time I go down to the compound.
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Some pics of a white UK car here (WHITE ROOF!)
(and a grey Ed40)
https://www.instagram.com/volkswizard.co.uk/
Looks great Andrew
At least youve got the black roof
I've followed you on instas :smiley:
Mine has just arrived at the dealer.
Taking my Womans M3 to Silverstone on Saturday instead
Cage turns up for the Golf Tomorrow so that's Sundats job
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Believe me, I get the less is more of the clubsport philosophy. :wink:
Having said that, the white car with silver wheels, does look a little flat compared to some of the regular CS40 I have seen, hopefully much better in the metal?
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Believe me, I get the less is more of the clubsport philosophy. :wink:
Having said that, the white car with silver wheels, does look a little flat compared to some of the regular CS40 I have seen, hopefully much better in the metal?
Have to agree, black wheels and black roof of the WOB press car made all the difference.
Still it's a good time to get £200 of M&S vouchers..
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I'd love to know if there a Nurburgring mode (along with Comfort, Eco, Normal) or is it set via Individual?
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OK, So who's going to honk to VW about the lack of black roof?
Is there official blurb anywhere that says it has a black roof?
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OK, So who's going to honk to VW about the lack of black roof?
Is there official blurb anywhere that says it has a black roof?
Yes there is - this is the official dealer info (I've put scans of the doc on my Instagram, use earlier linky)
Got to laugh as the pic of the red one next to the text below has guess what?A red roof :cry:
3 door manual only
Only black, red or white all with black roof
No configurator, no options. All will be the same specification.
Will have 19” Pretoria alloys, a fine tuned chassis with Dynamic Chassis Control, front bucket seats and no rear seats.
Spec is same as GTI except for no: spare wheel, front centre armrest, pre-crash basic, Driver alert system, mirror pack, parking sensors, Adaptive Cruise Control with front assist and city emergency braking, light & sight pack,
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Haha ... what a total and utter joke VW are ... Germans get black wheels & black roof - we get silver wheels and no roof plus convenience pack ... I hope and pray one of the dealers on this thread takes it up with VW ... they are breaking every rule in the book and just giving us parts bin specials ... 😡 👎
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Haha ... what a total and utter joke VW are ... Germans get black wheels & black roof - we get silver wheels and no roof plus convenience pack ... I hope and pray one of the dealers on this thread takes it up with VW ... they are breaking every rule in the book and just giving us parts bin specials ... 😡 👎
My dealer has emailed the sales office this afternoon asking the question Andrew, as soon as I receive a reply I'll post it in here...
Yours is black isn't it?
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Haha ... what a total and utter joke VW are ... Germans get black wheels & black roof - we get silver wheels and no roof plus convenience pack ... I hope and pray one of the dealers on this thread takes it up with VW ... they are breaking every rule in the book and just giving us parts bin specials ... 😡 👎
I'm quite pleased as I only ever wanted a deep black car and wanted a convenience pack. Just goes to show you can't please them all all the time. I only hope it has car app connect and voice control in there as that would make it perfect, I strongly suspect it hasn't though.
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I wasn't hugely impressed with black roof on the CS I saw, it's not a clean sharp transition to body colour but around 2mm of blend
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Yes I saw that on your instas acc
I'm going to honk for sure or get my dealer to.
What does the convenience pack give you?
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Haha ... what a total and utter joke VW are ... Germans get black wheels & black roof - we get silver wheels and no roof plus convenience pack ... I hope and pray one of the dealers on this thread takes it up with VW ... they are breaking every rule in the book and just giving us parts bin specials ... 😡 👎
I'm quite pleased as I only ever wanted a deep black car and wanted a convenience pack. Just goes to show you can't please them all all the time. I only hope it has car app connect and voice control in there as that would make it perfect, I strongly suspect it hasn't though.
It will have nav and everything else as per GTI so if GTI has it CSS should (or I will be miffed too)
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Haha ... what a total and utter joke VW are ... Germans get black wheels & black roof - we get silver wheels and no roof plus convenience pack ... I hope and pray one of the dealers on this thread takes it up with VW ... they are breaking every rule in the book and just giving us parts bin specials ... 😡 👎
I'm quite pleased as I only ever wanted a deep black car and wanted a convenience pack. Just goes to show you can't please them all all the time. I only hope it has car app connect and voice control in there as that would make it perfect, I strongly suspect it hasn't though.
It will have nav and everything else as per GTI so if GTI has it CSS should (or I will be miffed too)
App connect and voice control isn't standard so it remains to be seen if it has it or if it has to be paid for via factory unlock software codes.
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Haha ... what a total and utter joke VW are ... Germans get black wheels & black roof - we get silver wheels and no roof plus convenience pack ... I hope and pray one of the dealers on this thread takes it up with VW ... they are breaking every rule in the book and just giving us parts bin specials ... 😡 👎
I'm quite pleased as I only ever wanted a deep black car and wanted a convenience pack. Just goes to show you can't please them all all the time. I only hope it has car app connect and voice control in there as that would make it perfect, I strongly suspect it hasn't though.
It will have nav and everything else as per GTI so if GTI has it CSS should (or I will be miffed too)
App connect and voice control isn't standard so it remains to be seen if it has it or if it has to be paid for via factory unlock software codes.
Ok thanks for clarifying that, I was thinking about car play, isn't that standard?
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Bit odd these, checked the one we have here. No black roof but have got convenience pack so has auto wipers, lights etc. Wasn't supposed to come with that. Also has a camera in the middle on the front bumper but no Adaptive cruise, or indeed cruise of any type so perhaps it has city emergency stop too.
Sorry if i'm coming into this late, but why no adaptive cruise? or Black roof?
At least you can wrap a roof simply, but then i guess its not original? Feel for the people that have ordered on the back of what they viewed... very annoying
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What does the convenience pack give you?
Automatic dimming interior rear-view mirror, automatic headlights on with coming/leaving home lighting function and rain sensor
Weird thing is it was called "light & sight" pack in the original dealer info.
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Bit odd these, checked the one we have here. No black roof but have got convenience pack so has auto wipers, lights etc. Wasn't supposed to come with that. Also has a camera in the middle on the front bumper but no Adaptive cruise, or indeed cruise of any type so perhaps it has city emergency stop too.
Sorry if i'm coming into this late, but why no adaptive cruise? or Black roof?
At least you can wrap a roof simply, but then i guess its not original? Feel for the people that have ordered on the back of what they viewed... very annoying
The original spec said that the car would not have adaptive cruise or front assist so would therefore not need the front radar, the idea being that as it was a track biased these unnecessary driver assist items could be deleted from spec. Looks like the radar is being forced upon us because front assist was key to Mk7 Golf getting its lowered UK insurance rating but weirdly no adaptive cruise (the press car had blanks on the steering wheel where the cruise control buttons normally are although they didn't have the radar either because front assist/ACC wasn't standard in Germany) - so we have something we didn't expect to get, the reverse of the black roof.
Even though the car in the literature had a red roof on a red car, the text said ALL css would have a black roof.
I don't think wrapping it will be satisfactory, nor will non-factory paintwork so it's going to be interesting to see how this gets resolved.
My suspicion is that somewhere along the line, the ordering process didn't check the box that said 'black roof', it was optional on Clubsport Edition 40 and someone would have had to switch this to being standard on CSS but didn't.
I kind of get the need for front assist as it's a local legislation thing but I really don't get why wheels (let alone roof) are different for UK cars, they only made 400 globally so why vary the spec on such a small build?
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Not good reading chaps and never nice, the black wheels and roof for me is what made it, seems daft considering the regular CS gets the black roof
I'd be asking for more in terms of compensation, I had an issue on my first R and did rather well out of them not advertising things correctly and got leather for free and a loaned R for 10 weeks.
Issue you have is they know they can easily sell these.
Intersting on the radar, I had to fully turn this off on track as it actually threw error messages every time I braked really hard
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Haha ... what a total and utter joke VW are ... Germans get black wheels & black roof - we get silver wheels and no roof plus convenience pack ... I hope and pray one of the dealers on this thread takes it up with VW ... they are breaking every rule in the book and just giving us parts bin specials ... 😡 👎
My dealer has emailed the sales office this afternoon asking the question Andrew, as soon as I receive a reply I'll post it in here...
Yours is black isn't it?
Yes very interested to hear back as to what VW have to say.
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Intersting on the radar, I had to fully turn this off on track as it actually threw error messages every time I braked really hard
Well of course, that is what you want forced upon you when buy a track focused limited edition 'ring record Golf.
I think Benny should have another go at the lap record with front assist activated :evil:
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I just held the TC button for 5 secs and everything is off... well as off as VW lawyers allow :rolleyes:
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Intersting on the radar, I had to fully turn this off on track as it actually threw error messages every time I braked really hard
Well of course, that is what you want forced upon you when buy a track focused limited edition 'ring record Golf.
I think Benny should have another go at the lap record with front assist activated :evil:
Benny is ok. Had his 001/400 delivered in the correct German spec lol.
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PANIC OVER - 'ring record car had a white roof cos it was lighter (and silver Prets) so on plus side car is closer to record spec (and looks perfectly handsome in this pic)
(http://images.car.bauercdn.com/pagefiles/29208/1752x1168/vw_golf_gti_clubsport_s_05.jpg?mode=max&quality=90&scale=down)
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I just held the TC button for 5 secs and everything is off... well as off as VW lawyers allow :rolleyes:
Don't think that switches of front assist does it? Thought that was through the DIS
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PANIC OVER - 'ring record car had a white roof cos it was lighter (and silver Prets) so on plus side car is closer to record spec (and looks perfectly handsome in this pic)
(http://images.car.bauercdn.com/pagefiles/29208/1752x1168/vw_golf_gti_clubsport_s_05.jpg?mode=max&quality=90&scale=down)
Mmmmmm if I get some plates made up, no-one will ever know :grin:
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Bit odd these, checked the one we have here. No black roof but have got convenience pack so has auto wipers, lights etc. Wasn't supposed to come with that. Also has a camera in the middle on the front bumper but no Adaptive cruise, or indeed cruise of any type so perhaps it has city emergency stop too.
Sorry if i'm coming into this late, but why no adaptive cruise? or Black roof?
At least you can wrap a roof simply, but then i guess its not original? Feel for the people that have ordered on the back of what they viewed... very annoying
The original spec said that the car would not have adaptive cruise or front assist so would therefore not need the front radar, the idea being that as it was a track biased these unnecessary driver assist items could be deleted from spec. Looks like the radar is being forced upon us because front assist was key to Mk7 Golf getting its lowered UK insurance rating but weirdly no adaptive cruise (the press car had blanks on the steering wheel where the cruise control buttons normally are although they didn't have the radar either because front assist/ACC wasn't standard in Germany) - so we have something we didn't expect to get, the reverse of the black roof.
Even though the car in the literature had a red roof on a red car, the text said ALL css would have a black roof.
I don't think wrapping it will be satisfactory, nor will non-factory paintwork so it's going to be interesting to see how this gets resolved.
My suspicion is that somewhere along the line, the ordering process didn't check the box that said 'black roof', it was optional on Clubsport Edition 40 and someone would have had to switch this to being standard on CSS but didn't.
I kind of get the need for front assist as it's a local legislation thing but I really don't get why wheels (let alone roof) are different for UK cars, they only made 400 globally so why vary the spec on such a small build?
lets not get excited they said it wouldn't have adaptive cruise or front assist but never mentioned the front camera. I think its obvious VWUK have put out the german press release and then specced UK cars differently. Lets not burn them just yet though until we work out what they decided. Clearly as ever communication could be improved.
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lets not get excited they said it wouldn't have adaptive cruise or front assist but never mentioned the front camera. I think its obvious VWUK have put out the german press release and then specced UK cars differently. Lets not burn them just yet though until we work out what they decided. Clearly as ever communication could be improved.
I'm cool, I am just fascinated how these things can go adrift, the grey press car was not a good omen.
Why would you have the front camera (radar?) if there was no adaptive cruise or front assist? It's like deleting the folding mirrors by leaving the motors but removing the switch.
FYI this is the UK press release which sensibly avoids mentioning roof/wheel/front assist (although it says floor mats were a deleted item), the original text I pasted was the internal dealer info;
All 150 examples of Golf GTI Clubsport S allocated to the UK have been sold on release
Golf GTI Clubsport S is the most powerful production Golf GTI yet, with 310 PS
GTI technology is proven with Nürburgring lap record
Special model is part of the celebrations marking 40 years of the iconic Golf GTI
Priced at £33,995 RRP on-the-road
Every single Golf GTI Clubsport S model allocated to the UK market has been sold on release of the new car.
Only 400 examples of the Golf GTI Clubsport S will be built, of which the lion’s share (150) will come to the UK – a country where the enduring popularity of the hot hatchback is unmatched anywhere else in the world. Deliveries of these limited edition cars are expected to begin in early October.
The Clubsport S is the ultimate expression of the legendary Golf GTI. The front-wheel-drive car’s 2.0-litre TSI engine packs 310 PS, enabling a blistering 7m 49.21 s record lap time around the gruelling Nürburgring Nordschleife back in May.
The Golf GTI Clubsport S is focused on outright performance. It weighs 1,285 kg, resulting in a strong power-to-weight ratio of 4.15 kg/PS. A revised fuel pump is only one example of how comprehensively this car has been evolved but of greater significance is the weight reduction compared with the Golf GTI on which this car is based. Features such as an aluminium subframe on the front axle and aluminium brake covers illustrate the Wolfsburg engineers’ commitment to shedding the kilograms.
Continuing that theme, a smaller battery, along with the removal of components such as insulating material, the variable luggage compartment floor, the parcel shelf, floor mats and the bonnet damping have together pushed the weight tally down further. Finally, fitting the car with a manual transmission and removing the rear seats completes the comprehensive weight-saving programme.
That weight reduction contributes to the incredible performance of the Golf GTI Clubsport S. Standstill to 62 mph is reached in 5.8 seconds, and the top speed, where the law permits, is 164 mph. It packs a torque figure of 380 Nm between 1,850 and 5,700 rpm, with maximum power available between 5,800 and 6,500 rpm.
To transfer this performance to the road and track are four 235/35 ZR Michelin tyres, which are mounted on 19-inch ’Pretoria’ alloy wheels. The handling of the car can be adjusted by the driver thanks to Dynamic Chassis Control (DCC). DCC makes it possible to achieve the optimum response to driving conditions. Comfort, Normal and Race modes are available, as well as a special ‘Nürburgring’ option that further modifies the suspension, sound, engine and steering parameters.
The Golf GTI Clubsport S features race-derived heated bucket seats to connect driver and car. The character of the Clubsport S engulfs the driver through sound as well as feel thanks to a new exhaust system. The diameter ahead of the tailpipes is 65 mm instead of 55 mm, which reduces backpressure and increases performance. The side effect is the atmospheric backfire produced when decelerating.
This very special Golf has a recommended retail price of £33,995 on-the-road. Three colours are offered: ‘Tornado Red’, ‘Pure White’ and ‘Deep Black’. Air conditioning is available as a no-cost option, its inclusion adding around 10 kg to the lightweight car. CO2 emissions for the Clubsport S are 172 g/km and its economy on the combined cycle is 38.1 mpg*.
The Clubsport S joins the Clubsport Edition 40 in the GTI line-up – also a special edition to celebrate the GTI’s 40th birthday. It boasts 265 PS – 45 PS more than the standard GTI – with an overboost function to take power up temporarily to 290 PS, and is priced from £30,935 RRP on-the road. Both Clubsport versions of the Golf GTI share DNA with the successful Golf GTI TCR racing car that was launched at the start of the year.
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Just a thought, if you placed an order before the official release date of 1/8 (which apparently all the buyers did) you would have not received any official notification about the spec anyway would you?
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PANIC OVER - 'ring record car had a white roof cos it was lighter (and silver Prets) so on plus side car is closer to record spec (and looks perfectly handsome in this pic)
(http://images.car.bauercdn.com/pagefiles/29208/1752x1168/vw_golf_gti_clubsport_s_05.jpg?mode=max&quality=90&scale=down)
Apart from the roll cage and driver talent :grin:
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I just held the TC button for 5 secs and everything is off... well as off as VW lawyers allow :rolleyes:
Don't think that switches of front assist does it? Thought that was through the DIS
Sure does work, the other way is the stalk button, no need to wade through DIS. But for track days you want TC off and stability XDS plus in sport or off anyway, so just hold the TC/ASR button for 5sec and all is off including front assist. It comes up on the screen and warns you!!
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I just held the TC button for 5 secs and everything is off... well as off as VW lawyers allow :rolleyes:
Don't think that switches of front assist does it? Thought that was through the DIS
Sure does work, the other way is the stalk button, no need to wade through DIS. But for track days you want TC off and stability XDS plus in sport or off anyway, so just hold the TC/ASR button for 5sec and all is off including front assist. It comes up on the screen and warns you!!
Great tip, thanks!
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Personally ... I have a black car coming so no stress about the roof ... ! And if having a camera up front lowers insurance I am cool about that also, especially now its switchable ??!
By the looks of it the black roof cars paint jobs look terrible so that maybe a reason but personally I think the cock us is with VW uk but its too late now to worry about it and sums up exactly why VW shouldn't make these cars as they have no experience from a network perspective of how to "manage" a low volume tack focused, collectors sports car ... let's be honest - from start to finish this whole things been a joke!
1) Insdequate Press Release
2) Inadequate info to U.K. Dealers - my salesman hadn't even heard of it ...
3) No configuration available - I had to place a Clubsport order just to attain a receipt
4) No colour option available for the majority, but not all dealerships - definitely not mine
5) Colour allocation indesriminant
6) Press car a grey left Hooker
7) No idea of Price before sell out
8) No idea of spec before sell out
9) No car for Clarkson
10) Incorrect delivery date info
11) Software glitches hampering delivery
12) uk VW dealerships with no idea of spec
13) Spec differences from country to country
14) Closed communication loop to buyers
On the plus side ...
1) a cheap to run cheap to insure daily driver
2) Selling for overs if you want to bail out ...?!
3) A good bit of fun ...
4) Probably the last time VW will ever attempt this scenario for a decade or so ...
See all the above ...
Guaranteed Future Classic & Legend status ... :whistle:
Andrew
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Personally ... I have a black car coming so no stress about the roof ... ! And if having a camera up front lowers insurance I am cool about that also, especially now its switchable ??!
By the looks of it the black roof cars paint jobs look terrible so that maybe a reason but personally I think the cock us is with VW uk but its too late now to worry about it and sums up exactly why VW shouldn't make these cars as they have no experience from a network perspective of how to "manage" a low volume tack focused, collectors sports car ... let's be honest - from start to finish this whole things been a joke!
1) Insdequate Press Release
2) Inadequate info to U.K. Dealers - my salesman hadn't even heard of it ...
3) No configuration available - I had to place a Clubsport order just to attain a receipt
4) No colour option available for the majority, but not all dealerships - definitely not mine
5) Colour allocation indesriminant
6) Press car a grey left Hooker
7) No idea of Price before sell out
8) No idea of spec before sell out
9) No car for Clarkson
10) Incorrect delivery date info
11) Software glitches hampering delivery
12) uk VW dealerships with no idea of spec
13) Spec differences from country to country
14) Closed communication loop to buyers
On the plus side ...
1) a cheap to run cheap to insure daily driver
2) Selling for overs if you want to bail out ...?!
3) A good bit of fun ...
4) Probably the last time VW will ever attempt this scenario for a decade or so ...
See all the above ...
Guaranteed Future Classic & Legend status ... :whistle:
Andrew
Can I be pedantic and add;
White press car had rear parking sensors, black wheels and black roof (but also auto lights which wasn't in spec but we are actually getting..maybe)
If anyone went to the Pistonheads / VW UK GTI 40th birthday party this all may not come as a surprise (not saying any more)
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I'm collecting mine at 11:30 today
Without it's black roof
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I'm collecting mine at 11:30 today
Without it's black roof
I for one am still jealous, enjoy it
(Then get us some decent pics!)
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5 miles to home and that's it.
Feels lively
No Nurburgring Mode? thought this was std?
Can't see where my cage will bolt in as no holes anywhere that I can see
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/viperlee63/2B39A491-345A-4541-B0AC-E9A236F7F4BE_zpse8z68rci.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/viperlee63/media/2B39A491-345A-4541-B0AC-E9A236F7F4BE_zpse8z68rci.jpg.html)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/viperlee63/17965D84-E373-4CDE-82E0-3E5E61B92D82_zps5gpd0isz.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/viperlee63/media/17965D84-E373-4CDE-82E0-3E5E61B92D82_zps5gpd0isz.jpg.html)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/viperlee63/1B3E7D33-F6C1-419A-90D7-3A70B8DF1B09_zpsuzdcpqd0.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/viperlee63/media/1B3E7D33-F6C1-419A-90D7-3A70B8DF1B09_zpsuzdcpqd0.jpg.html)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/viperlee63/CC0CEDB0-297E-4937-A310-27FAF784BA73_zpszfbpeodi.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/viperlee63/media/CC0CEDB0-297E-4937-A310-27FAF784BA73_zpszfbpeodi.jpg.html)
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Love the crime scene tape on the first shot
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Love the crime scene tape on the first shot
What's that tape for ...? Also - what's the crack with the Nordshliefe setting ...?!! Not another VW hiccup
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That's for the Star Trek mode. It beams you to another dimension.
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Love the crime scene tape on the first shot
What's that tape for ...? Also - what's the crack with the Nordshliefe setting ...?!! Not another VW hiccup
No idea
Should have stuck with my CS as this is the same minus the rear seat
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Love the crime scene tape on the first shot
What's that tape for ...? Also - what's the crack with the Nordshliefe setting ...?!! Not another VW hiccup
No idea
Should have stuck with my CS as this is the same minus the rear seat
Looks nice, thanks for pics.
I had a feeling RACE/SPORT mode wasn't going to be replaced by Nurburgring, I think you have to set the Individual mode up in a certain way to match the record car - is there a 'ring setting on the DCC shocks? To be fair it wasn't in the original spec sheet but we all think it should have it so wonder where we read it? :huh:
(minutes later) found this from Autocar just after the record lap;
"A comprehensive rework of the suspension includes adaptive dampers that have been calibrated to include what engineers have dubbed a ‘Nürburgring setting’ as part of the Individual mode."
Regarding sticking with a CS, the CSS, is all about the driving :cool:
How did you leave it with dealer about the roof?
What made you think it had holes for a cage?
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Wow!
It looks fantastic outside of a showroom, can you restrain yourself from enjoying it before the PPF is fitted?
I know I couldn't! :)
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Wow!
It looks fantastic outside of a showroom, can you restrain yourself from enjoying it before the PPF is fitted?
I know I couldn't! :)
Have you seen his other cars :wink:
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Don't shoot me down but it looks like a gti with the R Pretoria's.
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Don't shoot me down but it looks like a gti with the R Pretoria's.
What's not to like with that?! :laugh:
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Don't shoot me down but it looks like a gti with the R Pretoria's.
Actually the front bumper aero mods and big rear spoiler really give the CSS (and CS) a lot more presence than the GTI when you seen them in the flesh.
I am hoping a black car will look a little meaner though, this largely identical CS Ed 40 certainly does, I didn't think black on black would look that great but I might have to get my wheels refinished on this basis
(http://cdn2.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery_adv/public/2016/09/dsc_1715.jpg?itok=QqDAtvda)
(http://cdn2.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery_adv/public/2016/09/dsc_1777.jpg?itok=hyZKM5Nd)
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I think black wheels but with the red edged CS centres would look rather good
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Don't shoot me down but it looks like a gti with the R Pretoria's.
I have to say I agree. I'm sorry, it just doesn't look that special
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Don't shoot me down but it looks like a gti with the R Pretoria's.
I have to say I agree. I'm sorry, it just doesn't look that special
It's not the looks that made it Evo Car of the Year runner up.
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I think black wheels but with the red edged CS centres would look rather good
generally I prefer black wheels to have polished edges (as on Porsche and Merc) so tyre doesn't blend into wheel visually but I think it looks OK, would look really good on all 3 colours especially red.
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Don't shoot me down but it looks like a gti with the R Pretoria's.
I have to say I agree. I'm sorry, it just doesn't look that special
It's not the looks that made it Evo Car of the Year runner up.
Everyone here seems to think that Evo is the be all and end all of car reviews
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Don't shoot me down but it looks like a gti with the R Pretoria's.
I have to say I agree. I'm sorry, it just doesn't look that special
It's not the looks that made it Evo Car of the Year runner up.
Everyone here seems to think that Evo is the be all and end all of car reviews
I think the press generally have raved about the Clubsport S as a whole so it's not just EVO's opinion but their amazing confidence in the car to put it 2nd ahead of some brilliant competition encapsulates just how exceptional this car is.
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Having signed up for tracker alerts, I wasn't expecting anything to have changed when I checked just now,as not received any notifications BUT MINE HAS ARRIVED IN THE UK.
The African Highway docked at Sheerness yesterday so I assume that was when it landed.
Maybe it will be the first black UK CSS I see in photos or for real? :cool:
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We PDI'd the one we have today, doesn't have app connect or voice control so I'd recommend getting them unlocked for £400 if you are on android like me. It does look like a GTI which is unsurprising but pictures don't do justice to the brakes which are huge and the tyres which are very sticky. Inside it is literally like a normal one with the seats ripped out. One thing to note is the noise it makes which is very nice.
If you are expecting it to be as different as an M3 is to a normal BMW you will be disappointed. I haven't driven it but the upgrades look like they will make it very fast and capable indeed.
Oh and Volkswizard GT4 has already got pics of his.
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We PDI'd the one we have today, doesn't have app connect or voice control so I'd recommend getting them unlocked for £400 if you are on android like me. It does look like a GTI which is unsurprising but pictures don't do justice to the brakes which are huge and the tyres which are very sticky. Inside it is literally like a normal one with the seats ripped out. One thing to note is the noise it makes which is very nice.
If you are expecting it to be as different as an M3 is to a normal BMW you will be disappointed. I haven't driven it but the upgrades look like they will make it very fast and capable indeed.
Oh and Volkswizard GT4 has already got pics of his.
What colour is yours?
Did you look at the DPS to see about the Nurburgring mode?
GT4 bring it on :smiley:
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We PDI'd the one we have today, doesn't have app connect or voice control so I'd recommend getting them unlocked for £400 if you are on android like me. It does look like a GTI which is unsurprising but pictures don't do justice to the brakes which are huge and the tyres which are very sticky. Inside it is literally like a normal one with the seats ripped out. One thing to note is the noise it makes which is very nice.
If you are expecting it to be as different as an M3 is to a normal BMW you will be disappointed. I haven't driven it but the upgrades look like they will make it very fast and capable indeed.
Oh and Volkswizard GT4 has already got pics of his.
What colour is yours?
Did you look at the DPS to see about the Nurburgring mode?
GT4 bring it on :smiley:
No been interviewing for salespeople all day so only saw it as I went past it in the workshop and had a look and spoke to my salesmen who were testing the phone connection to check if it had app connect. Mine is Deep Black and should be here in the next few days, I wanted a pearl finish.
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I am not sure if it's just me but I am staring to think this whole CS-S thing is becoming a bit of a Lemon and in 3 months when all the hype has subsided it will be just a basic GTi with no back seats to everyone but the GTi die hard fans ... I am seriously thinking of bailing out before mine gets to the dealership ??!!!
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It doesn't look that special, I agree but I'm sure it'll be great on track which is where I plan to use it.
It feels lively. It'll be a hoot to bomb around in.
Sound well but not sure how much is synthesised.
Mine had a phone plug in thingy and it seems to have downloaded everything to the central unit.
Cage has arrived and I will look at it on Sunday when I'm back home
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I am not sure if it's just me but I am staring to think this whole CS-S thing is becoming a bit of a Lemon and in 3 months when all the hype has subsided it will be just a basic GTi with no back seats to everyone but the GTi die hard fans ... I am seriously thinking of bailing out before mine gets to the dealership ??!!!
I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread :grin:
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I am not sure if it's just me but I am staring to think this whole CS-S thing is becoming a bit of a Lemon and in 3 months when all the hype has subsided it will be just a basic GTi with no back seats to everyone but the GTi die hard fans ... I am seriously thinking of bailing out before mine gets to the dealership ??!!!
Blimey, you've changed your tune!
So what makes you think it's becoming a bit of a lemon?
It's still the fine driving tool it's been hyped about and black/white/red roofs don't make it go any faster/slower.
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It doesn't look that special, I agree but I'm sure it'll be great on track which is where I plan to use it.
It feels lively. It'll be a hoot to bomb around in.
Sound well but not sure how much is synthesised.
Mine had a phone plug in thingy and it seems to have downloaded everything to the central unit.
Cage has arrived and I will look at it on Sunday when I'm back home
I could here my friend's CS Ed 40 coming down the road the other day which you'd never do with an R so it's definitely proper exhaust noise, sounded great.
Glad to see Viper that at least the black mirror casings came good :smiley:
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I am not sure if it's just me but I am staring to think this whole CS-S thing is becoming a bit of a Lemon and in 3 months when all the hype has subsided it will be just a basic GTi with no back seats to everyone but the GTi die hard fans ... I am seriously thinking of bailing out before mine gets to the dealership ??!!!
It's not a lemon.
No Golf is a lemon.
But it is just a Golf that's been whipped up into something of a storm in a tea cup by the Press just because it's reasonably quick around one particular race circuit.
Evo magazine have a lot to answer for.
I don't actually think it's GTI diehards that are attracted to this model.
GTI diehards seem to be more interested in the regular ClubSport.
Most of the people interested in the CSS are something different to GTI diehards.
Pocket your £10k profit and go buy something that'll make you feel a bit warmer inside...
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That is true ... but I am/was looking for something special but sadly think it's just a parts bin special with added ECU boost and ripped out back seats ... by the looks of things VW don't really have a clue what they're doing and their poor methodology is leaving me cold and think I will just pass it on for list to someone else as also don't think there is any real profit in them anyway ... and think prices are just boosted by trade and have no real reflection on true value ?!! At the end of the day it's a £35k golf and you can buy some seriously prestigious brands with good methodology for that kind of money ???!!!
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I am not sure if it's just me but I am staring to think this whole CS-S thing is becoming a bit of a Lemon and in 3 months when all the hype has subsided it will be just a basic GTi with no back seats to everyone but the GTi die hard fans ... I am seriously thinking of bailing out before mine gets to the dealership ??!!!
But it is just a Golf that's been whipped up into something of a storm in a tea cup by the Press just because it's reasonably quick around one particular race circuit.
Evo magazine have a lot to answer for.
Do you read Evo?
Evo formed their opinion on UK roads during the Car of the Year test.
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I won't be selling mine. It's a keeper but I do have a friend who is deeply disappointed regarding the black roof and ring switch etc and if going to sell I think.
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That is true ... but I am/was looking for something special but sadly think it's just a parts bin special with added ECU boost and ripped out back seats ... by the looks of things VW don't really have a clue what they're doing and their poor methodology is leaving me cold and think I will just pass it on for list to someone else as also don't think there is any real profit in them anyway ... and think prices are just boosted by trade and have no real reflection on true value ?!! At the end of the day it's a £35k golf and you can buy some seriously prestigious brands with good methodology for that kind of money ???!!!
Cayman GT4 has a very unspecial Carrera engine some might say isn't worthy of a GT car and I am sure there are plenty of examples of special, iconic and valuable cars that you could say were parts bin specials, it's the sum of the parts that matters not the parts.
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I am not sure if it's just me but I am staring to think this whole CS-S thing is becoming a bit of a Lemon and in 3 months when all the hype has subsided it will be just a basic GTi with no back seats to everyone but the GTi die hard fans ... I am seriously thinking of bailing out before mine gets to the dealership ??!!!
Blimey, you've changed your tune!
So what makes you think it's becoming a bit of a lemon?
It's still the fine driving tool it's been hyped about and black/white/red roofs don't make it go any faster/slower.
And I'm sure the black cars actually come with a black
Roof too, so you're one of the lucky ones :)
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I won't be selling mine. It's a keeper but I do have a friend who is deeply disappointed regarding the black roof and ring switch etc and if going to sell I think.
I think the 'ring setting is probably there as described, it's a DCC setting within the Individual mode - I will be miffed if that's not there, for about 5 secs.
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GT4, how have you had pics of your car if it hasn't arrived at the dealers yet?
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First post here so go easy on me .
I've a white one coming next week and have read all the hype and positivity on here and elsewhere on the net regarding the cars - but now they have started to arrive it seems a lot of negativity is being shown here . I find this hard to understand -what's really so different from the cars we ordered ok the cars don't have a black roof but that's easily solved should you want to and they have the city stop fitted but that can be turned off and they have auto lights, wipers etc fitted which to me is bonus . But what else is so different all the positivity has been in how the car handles and performs in general the drive of the car. Nothing has changed regarding this and until we actually get to drive the car I think only then can we really judge them.
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I am not sure if it's just me but I am staring to think this whole CS-S thing is becoming a bit of a Lemon and in 3 months when all the hype has subsided it will be just a basic GTi with no back seats to everyone but the GTi die hard fans ... I am seriously thinking of bailing out before mine gets to the dealership ??!!!
But it is just a Golf that's been whipped up into something of a storm in a tea cup by the Press just because it's reasonably quick around one particular race circuit.
Evo magazine have a lot to answer for.
Do you read Evo?
Evo formed their opinion on UK roads during the Car of the Year test.
No, I can't read.
If I could I'd have a long list of ECOTY's ticked off on my bucket list.
Neither do I sell used VW's for a living or write for magazines :laugh:
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That is true ... but I am/was looking for something special but sadly think it's just a parts bin special with added ECU boost and ripped out back seats ... by the looks of things VW don't really have a clue what they're doing and their poor methodology is leaving me cold and think I will just pass it on for list to someone else as also don't think there is any real profit in them anyway ... and think prices are just boosted by trade and have no real reflection on true value ?!! At the end of the day it's a £35k golf and you can buy some seriously prestigious brands with good methodology for that kind of money ???!!!
Cayman GT4 has a very unspecial Carrera engine some might say isn't worthy of a GT car and I am sure there are plenty of examples of special, iconic and valuable cars that you could say were parts bin specials, it's the sum of the parts that matters not the parts.
With all respect I don't think you can talk about the GT4 in the same breath as the CS-S ... I just think I am going to be disappointed given I have one of the best sports cars in the world in my garage!
I wanted the Cs-S to be special and given the feedback from other members and the whole VW thing it just feels like the wind is out of my sales - VW have made a total cock up with the whole thing which I am not used to with Porsche ... I will flip for £5k and go buy an A45 AMG as a daily I think ???!!
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That is true ... but I am/was looking for something special but sadly think it's just a parts bin special with added ECU boost and ripped out back seats ... by the looks of things VW don't really have a clue what they're doing and their poor methodology is leaving me cold and think I will just pass it on for list to someone else as also don't think there is any real profit in them anyway ... and think prices are just boosted by trade and have no real reflection on true value ?!! At the end of the day it's a £35k golf and you can buy some seriously prestigious brands with good methodology for that kind of money ???!!!
Cayman GT4 has a very unspecial Carrera engine some might say isn't worthy of a GT car and I am sure there are plenty of examples of special, iconic and valuable cars that you could say were parts bin specials, it's the sum of the parts that matters not the parts.
With all respect I don't think you can talk about the GT4 in the same breath as the CS-S ... I just think I am going to be disappointed given I have one of the best sports cars in the world in my garage!
I wanted the Cs-S to be special and given the feedback from other members and the whole VW thing it just feels like the wind is out of my sales - VW have made a total cock up with the whole thing which I am not used to with Porsche ... I will flip for £5k and go buy an A45 AMG as a daily I think ???!!
So you are flipping for £5k now and not selling at list as you said earlier?
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Yea ... what the hell - what would the next guy do ..?!!
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First post here so go easy on me .
I've a white one coming next week and have read all the hype and positivity on here and elsewhere on the net regarding the cars - but now they have started to arrive it seems a lot of negativity is being shown here . I find this hard to understand -what's really so different from the cars we ordered ok the cars don't have a black roof but that's easily solved should you want to and they have the city stop fitted but that can be turned off and they have auto lights, wipers etc fitted which to me is bonus . But what else is so different all the positivity has been in how the car handles and performs in general the drive of the car. Nothing has changed regarding this and until we actually get to drive the car I think only then can we really judge them.
Sean G I think you now have your answer
(great first post by the way and welcome, if you decide after reading all this you want to come back please do)
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Some features missing, yes but not enough to give me the total camel. It's still a great car.
Black roof was a cool feature as it distinguished it from the basic golf.
Ring it's neck and enjoy
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First post here so go easy on me .
I've a white one coming next week and have read all the hype and positivity on here and elsewhere on the net regarding the cars - but now they have started to arrive it seems a lot of negativity is being shown here . I find this hard to understand -what's really so different from the cars we ordered ok the cars don't have a black roof but that's easily solved should you want to and they have the city stop fitted but that can be turned off and they have auto lights, wipers etc fitted which to me is bonus . But what else is so different all the positivity has been in how the car handles and performs in general the drive of the car. Nothing has changed regarding this and until we actually get to drive the car I think only then can we really judge them.
Sean - you have a good point but some cars you buy with your head and some with your heart ... for example a Ferrari you buy with your heart and soul - for a VW golf you buy with your head ... it's a question of branding and brand identity and for a small millisecond it looked like VW had actually built a car for the heart and not the head with the CS-S ... how dare they remove the back seats and strip the car out in the pure desire for performance and thrills - like a Porsche GT car, purely made to drive and for enthusiasts to enjoy and feel special when they drive it .... But the reality is different, it's just a golf to the ret of the world and when the hypes gone the feeling of being special will just disappear. VW have let the customer/enthusiast down from start to finish and made the whole thing embarrassingly amateurish which lets you into the true ethos of the company and you then realise that they sell wholesale diesels and not Sports cars that tug at the heart strings ... trouble is now the CS-S is neither fish nor foul ... I know I am having a rant but as delivery gets closer, my head says bail out there's faster and more useable cars out there and my heart ❤️ Says that it's just a tricked up golf .... maybe tomorrow I will wake up and think differently as have had a bad day today !
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Some features missing, yes but not enough to give me the total camel. It's still a great car.
Black roof was a cool feature as it distinguished it from the basic golf.
Ring it's neck and enjoy
Viper - I truly value your opinion, so please let us all know your thoughts, as for me it may be the deal breaker :rolleyes: :shocked:
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Hers a good analogy ... I feel with the CS-S like I have pulled a blinding bird on a Saturday night - got her home and realised that with the make up off and the high heels on the floor and a push up bra taken off that she is actually just really average but did a great job of hiding her weaknesses ....
saying that - I am off to read ECOTY again and see if a I can rekindle some desire for a Second date ... :grin:
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Some features missing, yes but not enough to give me the total camel. It's still a great car.
Black roof was a cool feature as it distinguished it from the basic golf.
Ring it's neck and enjoy
Viper - I truly value your opinion, so please let us all know your thoughts, as for me it may be the deal breaker :rolleyes: :shocked:
I think you need to take the car to Penrith via Alston and Hartside, in fact we should organise a Cs/CSS meet at the cafe in the spring :)
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Some features missing, yes but not enough to give me the total camel. It's still a great car.
Black roof was a cool feature as it distinguished it from the basic golf.
Ring it's neck and enjoy
Viper - I truly value your opinion, so please let us all know your thoughts, as for me it may be the deal breaker :rolleyes: :shocked:
I think you need to take the car to Penrith via Alston and Hartside, in fact we should organise a Cs/CSS meet at the cafe in the spring :)
Sounds good Andrew .... maybe get one of your power upgrades to give it that extra kick ... ⚡️💥🚗👍
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Surely though you have to realise it's £35k car so in no way comparable to any new limited or special edition Porsche etc .I've had M3's and RS's etc and never would have thought to compare the CSS to one - my wife has a new GTD and I ordered the CSS after her car arrived because for me the GTD was better than anything out there in that price range. I figure the CSS to be the same - what new limited run car with the excellent reviews the CSS has had can be bought for £35k that is being advertised for overs at the minute and has potential to retain a large proportion if not all off it actual cost for the immediate future.
I'm looking forward to getting mine though I won't register it until Jan as over here the year does make a difference the Cup's will come off until the better weather probably fitting Supersports or Pilots, the tailored seat covers will be fitted a tracker and front and rear dash cam will be fitted it will get a ceramic coating applied and hopefully I'll enjoy driving it hard when the opportunity arises.
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Some features missing, yes but not enough to give me the total camel. It's still a great car.
Black roof was a cool feature as it distinguished it from the basic golf.
Ring it's neck and enjoy
Viper - I truly value your opinion, so please let us all know your thoughts, as for me it may be the deal breaker :rolleyes: :shocked:
I think you need to take the car to Penrith via Alston and Hartside, in fact we should organise a Cs/CSS meet at the cafe in the spring :)
Sounds good Andrew .... maybe get one of your power upgrades to give it that extra kick ... ⚡️💥🚗👍
I honestly don't think it would need it, but I'll let you know in a couple of weeks as I've posted a kit to a Clubsport S owner today (staying anon for various reasons), and will post his feedback in due course..
I personally think the red car with the black roof and black wheels looks the absolute nuts, and I was a tad disappointed to see that it's coming with neither, but after watching all of the reviews and listening to the S on YouTube it becomes irrelevant:) Tou never know you may even like it more than your GT4 :)
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Some features missing, yes but not enough to give me the total camel. It's still a great car.
Black roof was a cool feature as it distinguished it from the basic golf.
Ring it's neck and enjoy
Viper - I truly value your opinion, so please let us all know your thoughts, as for me it may be the deal breaker :rolleyes: :shocked:
I think you need to take the car to Penrith via Alston and Hartside, in fact we should organise a Cs/CSS meet at the cafe in the spring :)
Sounds good Andrew .... maybe get one of your power upgrades to give it that extra kick ... ⚡️💥🚗👍
Have you or haven't you driven it yet as just wondering how you have decided it needs an extra kick? It's all a bit confusing
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Hers a good analogy ... I feel with the CS-S like I have pulled a blinding bird on a Saturday night - got her home and realised that with the make up off and the high heels on the floor and a push up bra taken off that she is actually just really average but did a great job of hiding her weaknesses ....
you need to see how you feel on the Sunday morning once you've sampled the goods (ahem...)
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That is true ... but I am/was looking for something special but sadly think it's just a parts bin special with added ECU boost and ripped out back seats ... by the looks of things VW don't really have a clue what they're doing and their poor methodology is leaving me cold and think I will just pass it on for list to someone else as also don't think there is any real profit in them anyway ... and think prices are just boosted by trade and have no real reflection on true value ?!! At the end of the day it's a £35k golf and you can buy some seriously prestigious brands with good methodology for that kind of money ???!!!
Cayman GT4 has a very unspecial Carrera engine some might say isn't worthy of a GT car and I am sure there are plenty of examples of special, iconic and valuable cars that you could say were parts bin specials, it's the sum of the parts that matters not the parts.
With all respect I don't think you can talk about the GT4 in the same breath as the CS-S ... I just think I am going to be disappointed given I have one of the best sports cars in the world in my garage!
I wanted the Cs-S to be special and given the feedback from other members and the whole VW thing it just feels like the wind is out of my sales - VW have made a total cock up with the whole thing which I am not used to with Porsche ... I will flip for £5k and go buy an A45 AMG as a daily I think ???!!
I'm sorry but you have said so much in such a short space of time that is contradictory. You have in the past few weeks spoken about the CSS/ GT3 and the GT4 in the same sentences enough to make me laugh. Now you say it can't be spoken about in the same sentence, cmon
Only a short time ago you were saying this
Wow - Great News ... This is exactly what i predicted two months ago when everyone was saying i was crazy ... :whistle:
So thats a Podium finish in the Top Gear Awards and second place behind the legendary $1'000'000 911R in Evo ECOTY for the CS-S ... :smug:
Anyone who said the CS-S is just a tweaked Gti needs to think again ... This is legendary stuff for the VW brand and the humble Golf Gti ...
I am so pleased for VW ... they took a risk and that risk has payed off big time ... they are now mixing it with the big boys :evil:
This is a landmark car for VW and an Icon even before one has landed this side of the channel and only 400 world wide build - a sure fire modern Classic :grin:
The CS-S made it to the "Final Five" alongside McLaren / Ferrari & Porsche 911R
I am starting to get slight dejavou ...! The CS-S is almost getting the kind of reviews the GT4 was getting last year for real time driving fun .... Happy Residuals ... :whistle:
It makes a great read ... :nerd:
Andrew
Flip flop Friday -. Just wait till you get the car and you drive it, you might really like it. Don't re-read any articles especially not Dan Prosser from Evo, as I'm not sure what he wrote was based on any information other than what VW gave him.
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Hi guys . This is my first post as I have been reading the clubsport S posts and need to have my say. I have a clubsport S on order which is in the uk but not yet in the dealership.
You are all suddenly concerned about the the look of the car re no black roof or wheels . Did you not buy the car for the driving experience not how it looked ? Or did you buy it to impress the neighbors with there Porsche and Lamborghini. Sorry guys but it was never going to be anything but a golf ! You were never promised flare arches or any other exotic look.
As one famous journalist once said "The Volkswagen Golf the only car you ever need".
As for complaining to VW about the promise spec they always cover themselves by stating that the model shown does not necessarily show U.K. Specification, so I don't think you got any where to go with that one.
Personel I'm waiting for delivery, going to drive it on a good road and then decide if it's a keeper, I suggest you all do the same.
But just a word or warning if you are all casting doubts over its cult status, your are affecting the flip price and if word gets out that its nothing special you can all say goodbye to your potential profit!
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Another video from dealer, and according to him VW have said that there was an "error" in the press release regarding the black roof..
https://video.citnow.com/vtZhpPPcb1v
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Hi guys . This is my first post as I have been reading the clubsport S posts and need to have my say. I have a clubsport S on order which is in the uk but not yet in the dealership.
You are all suddenly concerned about the the look of the car re no black roof or wheels . Did you not buy the car for the driving experience not how it looked ? Or did you buy it to impress the neighbors with there Porsche and Lamborghini. Sorry guys but it was never going to be anything but a golf ! You were never promised flare arches or any other exotic look.
As one famous journalist once said "The Volkswagen Golf the only car you ever need".
As for complaining to VW about the promise spec they always cover themselves by stating that the model shown does not necessarily show U.K. Specification, so I don't think you got any where to go with that one.
Personel I'm waiting for delivery, going to drive it on a good road and then decide if it's a keeper, I suggest you all do the same.
But just a word or warning if you are all casting doubts over its cult status, your are affecting the flip price and if word gets out that its nothing special you can all say goodbye to your potential profit!
Welcome to the site and very well said :) What colour have you gone for?
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Another video from dealer, and according to him VW have said that there was an "error" in the press release regarding the black roof..
https://video.citnow.com/vtZhpPPcb1v
No sh*t Sherlock :laugh:
Thanks for video :cool:
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Another video from dealer, and according to him VW have said that there was an "error" in the press release regarding the black roof..
https://video.citnow.com/vtZhpPPcb1v
No sh*t Sherlock :laugh:
I'd be more concerned that the black cars are actually coming with a black roof, I find that very bizarre lol
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Hi its Red.
If VW are going to comp us for no black roof , let's all complain! Or ask for a carbon fibre wrap for the roof which would look better than the promised paint. Personnel I wouldn't want it painting by the dealer now anyway.
Of course those with a black car have got what they wanted a black roof ! So can't understand them complaining about the look of the car !
Press release did say it would have grey wheels also how often do you get free spec of a manufacturer e.g. Sight and light pack and city brake and mats cos they weren't supposed to have them! Normally they would come back to you and say there had been a price increase!!!
Happy driving or for some flipping!!!
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Hi its Red.
If VW are going to comp us for no black roof , let's all complain! Or ask for a carbon fibre wrap for the roof which would look better than the promised paint. Personnel I wouldn't want it painting by the dealer now anyway.
Of course those with a black car have got what they wanted a black roof ! So can't understand them complaining about the look of the car !
Press release did say it would have grey wheels also how often do you get free spec of a manufacturer e.g. Sight and light pack and city brake and mats cos they weren't supposed to have them! Normally they would come back to you and say there had been a price increase!!!
Happy driving or for some flipping!!!
im happy with mine as it is, but even if they turn around and offer 2 free services (currently £149), its better than nothing... And im quite pleased it has auto wipers etc so im with you :)
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Hi its Red.
If VW are going to comp us for no black roof , let's all complain! Or ask for a carbon fibre wrap for the roof which would look better than the promised paint. Personnel I wouldn't want it painting by the dealer now anyway.
Of course those with a black car have got what they wanted a black roof ! So can't understand them complaining about the look of the car !
Press release did say it would have grey wheels also how often do you get free spec of a manufacturer e.g. Sight and light pack and city brake and mats cos they weren't supposed to have them! Normally they would come back to you and say there had been a price increase!!!
Happy driving or for some flipping!!!
Look great in that video, bet you can't wait
I don't think it was painted anyway, I believe it was a sticker, so if it's going to be wrapped I wouldn't want the dealer doing it. They would get it done for peanuts same when they try to refurbish wheels at the lowest cost. The white one looks great without so they will look great in red too I'm sure.
If some really want it done just take it a specialist
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Let's start high how about 2 year free services and free 5 year warranty . In reality this could possibly cost VW nothing. It would also only benefit those who bought them to keep and not those flipping for a profit.
Thanks for the videos it was good to see how the red one looks . I'm with you I like the way it looks and auto wipers and free mats are extras worth having😄.
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Let's start high how about 2 year free services and free 5 year warranty . In reality this could possibly cost VW nothing. It would also only benefit those who bought them to keep and not those flipping for a profit.
Thanks for the videos it was good to see how the red one looks . I'm with you I like the way it looks and auto wipers and free mats are extras worth having😄.
As soon as I hear back from my dealer I'll post VWs reply, and I've spoken to. VW people waiting for CSS and they've mentioned that it was a toss up between white and red, and now wish they had gone red :)
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Another video from dealer, and according to him VW have said that there was an "error" in the press release regarding the black roof..
https://video.citnow.com/vtZhpPPcb1v
No sh*t Sherlock :laugh:
I'd be more concerned that the black cars are actually coming with a black roof, I find that very bizarre lol
Maybe they wont :huh:
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I don't think it was painted anyway, I believe it was a sticker, so if it's going to be wrapped I wouldn't want the dealer doing it. They would get it done for peanuts same when they try to refurbish wheels at the lowest cost. The white one looks great without so they will look great in red too I'm sure.
The CS I saw was deffo painted, OK it's not a CSS but...
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Another video from dealer, and according to him VW have said that there was an "error" in the press release regarding the black roof..
https://video.citnow.com/vtZhpPPcb1v
No sh*t Sherlock :laugh:
I'd be more concerned that the black cars are actually coming with a black roof, I find that very bizarre lol
Maybe they wont :huh:
Imagine the outcry on here if the black car doesn't come with a black roof... .. think we should start a sweepstake
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I wonder what else is missing or has not being removed from the production cars compared to the cars reviewed or the actual spec of the car that did the record. :undecided: Things not mentioned so far like the 65mm exhaust, No bonnet damper, Aluminium brake bells and more negative camber , Alloy front subframe, No centre armrest etc etc.
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They have a gas bonnet strut
What it does have is heated seats which I wasn't expecting, I'm well pleased, heated seats are all I wanted
I've been away at a Silverstone track day today in my Womans car so she took the Golf topick my Nipper up from School. She said it felt very wizzy :rolleyes:but not planted like her M3 (F80). I said it'll be the track tyres not liking temps below 6 degs.
Pic for clarity, the wheels are a really nice shade of silver, only appreciated in the flesh I think
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/viperlee63/1B3E7D33-F6C1-419A-90D7-3A70B8DF1B09_zpsuzdcpqd0.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/viperlee63/media/1B3E7D33-F6C1-419A-90D7-3A70B8DF1B09_zpsuzdcpqd0.jpg.html)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/viperlee63/CC0CEDB0-297E-4937-A310-27FAF784BA73_zpszfbpeodi.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/viperlee63/media/CC0CEDB0-297E-4937-A310-27FAF784BA73_zpszfbpeodi.jpg.html)
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Guys ... I apologise for the rant yesterday but jut felt frustrated at VW's lack of attention to detail and was feeling for the red & white guys not getting black roofs and just looking like a bog standard GTi - when the Germans get the full sports car look with roof and wheels. I am also sure it wasn't in their small print but never the less they got a better looking easier to identify Clubsport S ... I would still love to know the reason WHY there is a distinct difference ... sure it doesn't effect the cars performance but who's to say VW haven't omitted other key points in the settings or dampers .... it just a trust and an integrity issue for me !! I will drive the car for a month and make my decisions from there and can't wait to hear some feedback from owners who got their car this week?? Andrew
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They have a gas bonnet strut
What it does have is heated seats which I wasn't expecting, I'm well pleased, heated seats are all I wanted
I've been away at a Silverstone track day today in my Womans car so she took the Golf topick my Nipper up from School. She said it felt very wizzy :rolleyes:but not planted like her M3 (F80). I said it'll be the track tyres not liking temps below 6 degs.
Pic for clarity, the wheels are a really nice shade of silver, only appreciated in the flesh I think
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/viperlee63/1B3E7D33-F6C1-419A-90D7-3A70B8DF1B09_zpsuzdcpqd0.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/viperlee63/media/1B3E7D33-F6C1-419A-90D7-3A70B8DF1B09_zpsuzdcpqd0.jpg.html)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/viperlee63/CC0CEDB0-297E-4937-A310-27FAF784BA73_zpszfbpeodi.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/viperlee63/media/CC0CEDB0-297E-4937-A310-27FAF784BA73_zpszfbpeodi.jpg.html)
Hey Viper, can you hunt for a ring setting in the driver MODEs?
Press MODE, select INDIVIDUAL then press SETUP.
Should be something in there relating to the DCC options
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I wonder what else is missing or has not being removed from the production cars compared to the cars reviewed or the actual spec of the car that did the record. :undecided: Things not mentioned so far like the 65mm exhaust, No bonnet damper, Aluminium brake bells and more negative camber , Alloy front subframe, No centre armrest etc etc.
Aluminium brake bells are there in vipers pics.
I appreciate a trust issue is occurring but it's worth remembering the UK roof/wheel spec is closer to the record car so there is no reason to think the arguably more important hardware has deviated from record car spec.
Anyway isn't it cooler to look like the record car than a random German's? I wonder if they are peeved about black roof and wheels!
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They have a gas bonnet strut
What it does have is heated seats which I wasn't expecting, I'm well pleased, heated seats are all I wanted
I've been away at a Silverstone track day today in my Womans car so she took the Golf topick my Nipper up from School. She said it felt very wizzy :rolleyes:but not planted like her M3 (F80). I said it'll be the track tyres not liking temps below 6 degs.
Pic for clarity, the wheels are a really nice shade of silver, only appreciated in the flesh I think
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/viperlee63/1B3E7D33-F6C1-419A-90D7-3A70B8DF1B09_zpsuzdcpqd0.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/viperlee63/media/1B3E7D33-F6C1-419A-90D7-3A70B8DF1B09_zpsuzdcpqd0.jpg.html)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/viperlee63/CC0CEDB0-297E-4937-A310-27FAF784BA73_zpszfbpeodi.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/viperlee63/media/CC0CEDB0-297E-4937-A310-27FAF784BA73_zpszfbpeodi.jpg.html)
Hey Viper, can you hunt for a ring setting in the driver MODEs?
Press MODE, select INDIVIDUAL then press SETUP.
Should be something in there relating to the DCC options
Again - I make my point about VW UK and the whole Dealer Network being a joke ... to think a CS-S left the dealership and nobody knows or can show the owner how to find the Nurburgring setting, when it is the selling feature of the whole car .... the story just gets better with every day #YouCouldntWriteIt! #AttentionToDetail 😂
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They have a gas bonnet strut
What it does have is heated seats which I wasn't expecting, I'm well pleased, heated seats are all I wanted
I've been away at a Silverstone track day today in my Womans car so she took the Golf topick my Nipper up from School. She said it felt very wizzy :rolleyes:but not planted like her M3 (F80). I said it'll be the track tyres not liking temps below 6 degs.
Pic for clarity, the wheels are a really nice shade of silver, only appreciated in the flesh I think
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/viperlee63/1B3E7D33-F6C1-419A-90D7-3A70B8DF1B09_zpsuzdcpqd0.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/viperlee63/media/1B3E7D33-F6C1-419A-90D7-3A70B8DF1B09_zpsuzdcpqd0.jpg.html)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/viperlee63/CC0CEDB0-297E-4937-A310-27FAF784BA73_zpszfbpeodi.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/viperlee63/media/CC0CEDB0-297E-4937-A310-27FAF784BA73_zpszfbpeodi.jpg.html)
Hey Viper, can you hunt for a ring setting in the driver MODEs?
Press MODE, select INDIVIDUAL then press SETUP.
Should be something in there relating to the DCC options
Again - I make my point about VW UK and the whole Dealer Network being a joke ... to think a CS-S left the dealership and nobody knows or can show the owner how to find the Nurburgring setting, when it is the selling feature of the whole car .... the story just gets better with every day #YouCouldntWriteIt! #AttentionToDetail 😂
Is this today's rant?
Just because one dealer didn't show viper the ring mode doesn't make the whole dealer network a joke.
I did post a few days ago how I expect there to be some dubious experiences buying a special car from a manufacturer used to volume but let's wait for a bigger picture.
It's just something we are going to have to put up with if we want a relatively cheap iconic car as its their economies of scale that allow it to be created in the first place
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I'll get my nipper to check for ring setting tomorrow.
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I'll get my nipper to check for ring setting tomorrow.
Car looks great Does it have the auto lights and wipers ?
Looking forward to seeing the cage fitted- think I may regret not ordering one when I see it in place.
Seen the track day pics looks to have been a great day plenty on track and the weather seemed to hold out.
Glad now that I've seen pics of the car and reading the reviews that I deciding to buy one after seeing you had ordered yours.
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I'll get my nipper to check for ring setting tomorrow.
Car looks great Does it have the auto lights and wipers ?
Looking forward to seeing the cage fitted- think I may regret not ordering one when I see it in place.
Seen the track day pics looks to have been a great day plenty on track and the weather seemed to hold out.
Glad now that I've seen pics of the car and reading the reviews that I deciding to buy one after seeing you had ordered yours.
Yes it does have the light and sight pack aka convenience pack according to jjgreenwood.
Thanks viper re ring mode
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Yes it does have the light and sight pack aka convenience pack according to jjgreenwood.
Thanks viper re ring mode
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Cheers
Had a quick look to see if it's mentioned but can't find anywhere if the car has a mobility pack with it seeing as there is no spare fitted.
Was considering buying a space saver wheel and tool pack and getting one of the space saver covers to
take on a longer journey though I will have to wait until the car arrives to see if an 18" one will fit seeing as they have carpeted into the wheel well.
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They have a gas bonnet strut
What it does have is heated seats which I wasn't expecting, I'm well pleased, heated seats are all I wanted
I've been away at a Silverstone track day today in my Womans car so she took the Golf topick my Nipper up from School. She said it felt very wizzy :rolleyes:but not planted like her M3 (F80). I said it'll be the track tyres not liking temps below 6 degs.
Pic for clarity, the wheels are a really nice shade of silver, only appreciated in the flesh I think
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/viperlee63/1B3E7D33-F6C1-419A-90D7-3A70B8DF1B09_zpsuzdcpqd0.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/viperlee63/media/1B3E7D33-F6C1-419A-90D7-3A70B8DF1B09_zpsuzdcpqd0.jpg.html)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/viperlee63/CC0CEDB0-297E-4937-A310-27FAF784BA73_zpszfbpeodi.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/viperlee63/media/CC0CEDB0-297E-4937-A310-27FAF784BA73_zpszfbpeodi.jpg.html)
Hey Viper, can you hunt for a ring setting in the driver MODEs?
Press MODE, select INDIVIDUAL then press SETUP.
Should be something in there relating to the DCC options
Again - I make my point about VW UK and the whole Dealer Network being a joke ... to think a CS-S left the dealership and nobody knows or can show the owner how to find the Nurburgring setting, when it is the selling feature of the whole car .... the story just gets better with every day #YouCouldntWriteIt! #AttentionToDetail 😂
Is this today's rant?
Just because one dealer didn't show viper the ring mode doesn't make the whole dealer network a joke.
I did post a few days ago how I expect there to be some dubious experiences buying a special car from a manufacturer used to volume but let's wait for a bigger picture.
It's just something we are going to have to put up with if we want a relatively cheap iconic car as its their economies of scale that allow it to be created in the first place
Sorry Volks .... but if you consider spending a mere £34k and wasn't/don't know how the setting that makes the whole concept and branding relevant is no big deal then your expectations are somewhat ldifferent than mine - please, no offence intended ... this kind of lack of knowledge and worth is what drove me away from Audi and the RS badge and the BMW M badge - just a bunch of "Top Man" salesman showing absolutely no understanding, knowledge and/or appreciation for the badge/brand that pays their wages! The local VW Manager apologised to me about 3 months ago because of the lack of professionalism shown and understood my point and said that VW are not used to enthusiasts and the culture that they want/desire - he actually worked for Porsche for 10 years so understood my frustrations ... the CS-S is arguably the most iconic sports car VW have ever produced for the open market, so you would naturally think they would make an effort and pull all the stops out to get the whole package right and make the whole CS-S buying process feel as special as possible as they have managed to grab some clientele from competitive brands ... I know if I was the manager of a dealership and I had some CS-S cars coming through I would be liasing with VW uk and VW Germany to get every bit of plausible information I could get my hands on and feed that back to the client and make the whole process special and memorable for all the right reasons. One of my clients collected ferraris and was invited to maranello before the launch of a new car and was given a brief of the car and its characteristics and was naturally expected to place a deposit. Ok, we don't expect that level of detail from VW but this opportunity to highlight the brand and put it into the shop window of sports car enthusiasts has been lost and almost every single CS - S owner feels frustrated in some shape or form .... this is a tragedy as the engineers have done a great job developing what looks like a great car but the brand and network have not done their side of the bargain ... Let's hope and prey the car drives better than the purchase experience!
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The Recaro's (and practically 99% of the car) are the same in both CS variants so I can't imagine how they wouldn't be heated like in the standard CS. Perfectly reasonable that they are. Auto wipers, city stop and a few other things mentioned the same. They are on the CS so unless talking about heavy items (like the bigger head unit and Dynaudio Hi-Fi and sub) no reason why they shouldn't be on the CS-S as well.
That been said, VW dealer network is most probably (as I think GT4 wrote) completely clueless about the car. Even on that short vid I heard that salesman telling the future owner "it's like the CS but with a much much improved engine". Somebody tell that guy it is the same engine, the R engine, with a different map to make 5% more power as the codename (CJX-E/A/B) indicates (CJX = engine, last letter = ECU). Mine over here was no better when he told me the CS has a GTI engine but tuned to make more power. Of-course when (knowing already the answer) I asked how VW (and not the tuner around the block) seriously decided to stretch to 290bhp from a 230bhp GTI engine with only a remap he was also a bit confused...
But if I'm right in understanding that UK CS-S have lost the black roof and black Pretorias without previous notice that's pretty shameful and only proves VW's inability to handle sports specials. So a 3-door CS with the black roof and wheels will look meaner (I'd say better but that's subjective) than a CS-S, well-done... Of-course it's treatable but it just shows (and it hurts me to say but I didn't expect any better) that they are far better pushing diesel Passats.
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The Recaro's (and practically 99% of the car) are the same in both CS variants so I can't imagine how they wouldn't be heated like in the standard CS. Perfectly reasonable that they are. Auto wipers, city stop and a few other things mentioned the same. They are on the CS so unless talking about heavy items (like the bigger head unit and Dynaudio Hi-Fi and sub) no reason why they shouldn't be on the CS-S as well.
That been said, VW dealer network is most probably (as I think GT4 wrote) completely clueless about the car. Even on that short vid I heard that salesman telling the future owner "it's like the CS but with a much much improved engine". Somebody tell that guy it is the same engine, the R engine, with a different map to make 5% more power as the codename (CJX-E/A/B) indicates (CJX = engine, last letter = ECU). Mine over here was no better when he told me the CS has a GTI engine but tuned to make more power. Of-course when (knowing already the answer) I asked how VW (and not the tuner around the block) seriously decided to stretch to 290bhp from a 230bhp GTI engine with only a remap he was also a bit confused...
But if I'm right in understanding that UK CS-S have lost the black roof and black Pretorias without previous notice that's pretty shameful and only proves VW's inability to handle sports specials. So a 3-door CS with the black roof and wheels will look meaner (I'd say better but that's subjective) than a CS-S, well-done... Of-course it's treatable but it just shows (and it hurts me to say but I didn't expect any better) that they are far better pushing diesel Passats.
Yep ... I also picked the "engine" remark up but didn't want to mention it ... as I have said - the engineers have built a great car that kicks ass round the Nurburgring but VW and VW uk and the dealer Netrork have not got a clue..!! I am sure the VW officials on this site find it difficult to defend such ridiculous communication and delivery
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Yep ... I also picked the "engine" remark up but didn't want to mention it ... as I have said - the engineers have built a great car that kicks ass round the Nurburgring but VW and VW uk and the dealer Netrork have not got a clue..!! I am sure the VW officials on this site find it difficult to defend such ridiculous communication and delivery
Wasn't even aware of the roof and wheels issue until an hour ago, that's a joke full-stop and it's pretty understandable if it becomes a deal-breaker for some. I'm very particular about the car paint and wheels and most of my cars I just wouldn't have them in any other combo (in fact I usually go as far as thinking them to be less attractive when not in the paint and wheels I opted for).
Adding to a miserable pre-order/delivery process and how much (correct) information was being shared by salesmen and it sure enough becomes an issue for people wanting a proper sports special buying experience.
However, if driving feel is indeed your top priority all this should be forgettable when you pick it up.
PS. Be prepared that it can get worse. For example, the first time someone working in the car industry and supposedly knowledgeable (for example a VW mechanic in a VW dealership :whistle:) sees it and thinks it's a standard GTI... (based on a true story)
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Not one car salesman in any garage in the uk actually knows 100% what they are selling so it's not just the vw network that's like this. Each car I've bought I've always known much more about the car than any of the salesman I've bought off because I've researched and done homework on what I'm buying. Never ever trust anything a car salesman tells you and anyone who does is an idiot for doing so!!
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Wasn't even aware of the roof and wheels issue until an hour ago, that's a joke full-stop and it's pretty understandable if it becomes a deal-breaker for some. I'm very particular about the car paint and wheels and most of my cars I just wouldn't have them in any other combo (in fact I usually go as far as thinking them to be less attractive when not in the paint and wheels I opted for).
Unless I am massively mistaken, when we expressed an interest in this vehicle (i.e. before the order books opened on 1/8) the spec hadn't been finalised so colour of roof and wheels were unknown.
What we did know was that the record car had a body colour roof and silver wheels, just like the UK cars coming through now.
For those who had a choice of colour (not me), 3 colours isn't exactly a massive choice and for me and funnily enough GT4 we didn't get any choice at all so if we'd been fussy about colours we probably wouldn't have been buying this car - after all it's all about the driving, or at least it should be otherwise not sure why anyone would order it (apart from speculators of course)...
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Sorry Volks .... but if you consider spending a mere £34k and wasn't/don't know how the setting that makes the whole concept and branding relevant is no big deal then your expectations are somewhat ldifferent than mine - please, no offence intended ... this kind of lack of knowledge and worth is what drove me away from Audi and the RS badge and the BMW M badge - just a bunch of "Top Man" salesman showing absolutely no understanding, knowledge and/or appreciation for the badge/brand that pays their wages! The local VW Manager apologised to me about 3 months ago because of the lack of professionalism shown and understood my point and said that VW are not used to enthusiasts and the culture that they want/desire - he actually worked for Porsche for 10 years so understood my frustrations ... the CS-S is arguably the most iconic sports car VW have ever produced for the open market, so you would naturally think they would make an effort and pull all the stops out to get the whole package right and make the whole CS-S buying process feel as special as possible as they have managed to grab some clientele from competitive brands ... I know if I was the manager of a dealership and I had some CS-S cars coming through I would be liasing with VW uk and VW Germany to get every bit of plausible information I could get my hands on and feed that back to the client and make the whole process special and memorable for all the right reasons. One of my clients collected ferraris and was invited to maranello before the launch of a new car and was given a brief of the car and its characteristics and was naturally expected to place a deposit. Ok, we don't expect that level of detail from VW but this opportunity to highlight the brand and put it into the shop window of sports car enthusiasts has been lost and almost every single CS - S owner feels frustrated in some shape or form .... this is a tragedy as the engineers have done a great job developing what looks like a great car but the brand and network have not done their side of the bargain ... Let's hope and prey the car drives better than the purchase experience!
Previously you said you can't compare the CS-S to a GT4 and yet you continue to compare VW with Porsche albeit this time with the dealer network and now you top that with a reference to Ferrari of all things.
The big difference between VW and Porsche (and Ferrari) is profit margins, the retailer make bugger all per car compared to that of Porsche and I am sure Ferrari. Therefore your sale really has little impact on the salesman's take home pay and the retailer's bottom line and therefore the time they can spend on a CSS handover is minimal.
Imagine all the bewildering options and functions of a new car, even a relatively basic car like a Golf that sales people have to be up to speed on, do you really think that the salesman will feel the need or have the time to get into the peculiarities of a car he will never see another of, especially when he's selling in most cases to people who know more than he will ever know? This isn't ideal or right but is human nature.
Couple that with the impact of dieselgate and I am not really surprised that there is no budget for pre or post handover surprise and delight communications like invitations to this and that or glossy brochures although it would of course have been nice. I was surprised however when I heard this car had actually survived the post dieselgate product cull and was going to make it to production and if that's at the expense of all the other bits and pieces you are expecting then so be it.
When the R32 was launched, buyers were invited to VW Racing Cup events including hospitality, I just get the feeling there is nobody there to organise this stuff any more and more to the point, no budget.
What we should be grateful for is the sterling work of the VW UK Press Office headed by Mike Orford (who GT4 will be intrigued to know used to be until quite recently the head of PR for....Porsche Cars GB). They have systematically raised the profile of the CSS even though it's solely being used as a halo car for the rest of the range as however much copy it produces, VW wont sell another but it's done a great job of increasing interest and quite clearly creating some sort of 'overs' market...for a bloody Golf!! Funnily enough almost exactly the same happened to the sold out Cayman GT4 just a year earlier...
However as a result of this buzz it's easy to think the Press Office's enthusiasm will filter right through to the handover process and that's where reality may not match expectations.
I've got previous form as I had one of the first customer Mk7 Golf Rs (also a special car for VW, well before they started to give them away) and that experience made me swear to never buy another new VW but I figured the CSS was so special that even if everything else didn't go too well, they could never undo the amazing work of the engineers who were headed by a man who used to work for......errr....PORSCHE!
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I personally don't think it's unrealistic for a salesperson to know what they are selling and what functions it does. To me it shows they actually give a s4it what they are selling to us customers. Also in this day and age especially on cars the same equipment appears on various models throughout the range so it's not that much of a hardship to actually learn what these things do.
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Wasn't even aware of the roof and wheels issue until an hour ago, that's a joke full-stop and it's pretty understandable if it becomes a deal-breaker for some. I'm very particular about the car paint and wheels and most of my cars I just wouldn't have them in any other combo (in fact I usually go as far as thinking them to be less attractive when not in the paint and wheels I opted for).
Unless I am massively mistaken, when we expressed an interest in this vehicle (i.e. before the order books opened on 1/8) the spec hadn't been finalised so colour of roof and wheels were unknown.
What we did know was that the record car had a body colour roof and silver wheels, just like the UK cars coming through now.
For those who had a choice of colour (not me), 3 colours isn't exactly a massive choice and for me and funnily enough GT4 we didn't get any choice at all so if we'd been fussy about colours we probably wouldn't have been buying this car - after all it's all about the driving, or at least it should be otherwise not sure why anyone would order it (apart from speculators of course)...
Exactly, if they'd told us no black roof or wheels from the off how many of you would have still bought?
I absolutely would have
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I personally don't think it's unrealistic for a salesperson to know what they are selling and what functions it does. To me it shows they actually give a s4it what they are selling to us customers. Also in this day and age especially on cars the same equipment appears on various models throughout the range so it's not that much of a hardship to actually learn what these things do.
Sure, the salesman I have no doubt will know the bits that are common to all Golfs, no excuse for not knowing that, but 'ring mode is a bit different.
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Just had a thought;
The German Mk7 GTI buyers have always had the option to choose any paint colour from the VW range at a modest extra cost confirming that they get a wider choice of options than we do. In fact there whole speccing process has always been very different to ours with barely anything coming as standard.
Does anyone know if they could actually spec black wheels or roof rather than getting the fixed spec we got?
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Anyone know if the battery is smaller and what they did with the reduction in weight? I could be mistaken but i thought that was mentioned along with the bonnet damper.
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Anyone know if the battery is smaller and what they did with the reduction in weight? I could be mistaken but i thought that was mentioned along with the bonnet damper.
I read about the battery but not the bonnet damper, do you remember where that came from?
We really need is someone with ETKA to spot the difference.
The big one is the front hubs (called knuckles in the official info) should be different to the CS in order to achieve the extra negative camber.
Anyone compared chassis number to number on plaque? My VIN ends in 318 so it's possible.
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Anyone know if the battery is smaller and what they did with the reduction in weight? I could be mistaken but i thought that was mentioned along with the bonnet damper.
I read about the battery but not the bonnet damper, do you remember where that came from?
We really need some with ETKA to sport the difference.
The big one is the front hubs (called knuckles in the official info) should be different to the CS in order to achieve the extra negative camber.
Anyone compared chassis number to number on plaque? My VIN ends in 318 so it's possible.
Yes I've tried to work out what number the car is from the chassis but there is no correlation unfortunately. Equally I can't work it out from ETKA either.
On the subject of the Nurburgring mode, I can understand the salesman not knowing about it - after all there are no brochures, no configurator, no marketing, no training available for this car. The only thing I know about it is picked up from the pistonheads videos which state that in the individual mode if you reset the settings then they are the same as that used for the record lap. Assuming this is true there is no special mode as such, just some recorded settings in the individual mode. Given there is no special mode then it is forgivable the salesman doesn't know about it.
Also I think it is completely unfair to compare the salespeople at Volkswagen to those in Ferrari and Porsche. Volkswagen sells 16 different cars, all with multiple different specs, multiple different engines, an options list as long as your arm, all the cars change every year and new specs come out every 18 months. This simply isn't the same as selling for a brand that sells 4-6 models, delivers hardly any cars, virtually no change to those vehicles due to long product cycles. In the case of Porsche the average margin in a 911 is £18000 which is equivalent to Volkswagen selling 26 of its cars.
By the sounds of it Viper is happy enough with his handover. Sounds to me that people are disgruntled with VW not communicating what the spec of the vehicle actually is rather than the networks ability to provide a decent handover experience.
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Anyone know if the battery is smaller and what they did with the reduction in weight? I could be mistaken but i thought that was mentioned along with the bonnet damper.
I read about the battery but not the bonnet damper, do you remember where that came from?
We really need some with ETKA to sport the difference.
The big one is the front hubs (called knuckles in the official info) should be different to the CS in order to achieve the extra negative camber.
Anyone compared chassis number to number on plaque? My VIN ends in 318 so it's possible.
I'll take a look later this evening on Etta.
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By the sounds of it Viper is happy enough with his handover. Sounds to me that people are disgruntled with VW not communicating what the spec of the vehicle actually is rather than the networks ability to provide a decent handover experience.
I agree and sorry if that wasn't communicated before, although it it early days yet so will be interesting to see what happens as handovers happen.
I am sure most handovers will go as well as they do with the 1.6 TDI Match retailers sell 1000s of but some people may (rightly or wrongly) may be expecting a little more sizzle with their £34k, zero discount sausage.
For minimal cost VW could give a DVD of the lap and interviews with the team, give a poster, give a lap ticket for the 'ring (29 Euros), get Benny to sign the car or the merchandise, give a model car, or even offer a day's driver tuition, even if it was for a small extra cost.
Sterling had tanked since the CSS pricing was announced so VW are getting a significantly smaller amount of Euros from us for our £33995 so I wonder if this is related to any apathy, perceived or otherwise.
Actually just checked and it's regained a lot but at the point when the cars were due (October) it was at its lowest, coincidence?
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I actually queried the black wheels (not a fan) back in August with VWUK after seeing the PH video.
It took about a week for a response to come back from Germany that they were actually coming to the UK with the standard pret silver.
So it seems that the market spec was set by them not the UK.
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Bored with black wheels tbh and not practical
They show every mark and chip, and believe me they will get chipped on track
Been under it this morn spraying ACF50 all over the nice new ally sub-frame etc
Which bit are you boys keen to see and I'll take a pic under there?
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Reference the wheels I asked my dealer about the wheel colour a few months back and he checked with VW who confirmed they were silver - which I wanted as I personally don't like black wheels
TBH my dealer has been 100% if I asked a question and he didn't know he contacted VW and then came back to me so no complaints really
As for the black roof after seeing how poorly painted one was I'd rather not have one than have a poor paint job
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Which bit are you boys keen to see and I'll take a pic under there?
Well as you are asking
front arms and hubs
The exhaust? Does it have a step sleeve after the downpipe or 65mm all the way to the turbo?
And just because i am curious
The battery (I think it was a Car Mag article anyway)
Boot floor where the spare wheel goes. what have they put in the space?
The bar fitment with the net? (where it enters the inside rear carpet)
I will look at some part numbers tomorrow at work to see what ARB, shocks and springs were fitted to push roll stiffness back (as claimed). I am hoping all the part numbers are different to the GTi PP and CS.
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Exhaust manifold too technical a question
Battery is smaller
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Just had a thought;
The German Mk7 GTI buyers have always had the option to choose any paint colour from the VW range at a modest extra cost confirming that they get a wider choice of options than we do. In fact there whole speccing process has always been very different to ours with barely anything coming as standard.
Does anyone know if they could actually spec black wheels or roof rather than getting the fixed spec we got?
Do you think 2000 Euros or thereabouts is modest for a factory paint job? :shocked:
VW UK is the reason why we do or don't get access to certain options that are available in other markets, including the option to get a car painted in pretty much any standard shade across the current VAG range for a hefty additional cost. Perhaps they believe there aren't enough people who'd want to pay out £1700 to get a Golf in Seat Ibiza Lima Green etc, so didn't take up the option. I'm sure certain markets have access to Alcantara GTI seats that the UK can't get. As you buy your VW from VW UK and not VW AG, you have to be content with what they allow you to spec.
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Just had a thought;
The German Mk7 GTI buyers have always had the option to choose any paint colour from the VW range at a modest extra cost confirming that they get a wider choice of options than we do. In fact there whole speccing process has always been very different to ours with barely anything coming as standard.
Does anyone know if they could actually spec black wheels or roof rather than getting the fixed spec we got?
Do you think 2000 Euros or thereabouts is modest for a factory paint job? :shocked:
VW UK is the reason why we do or don't get access to certain options that are available in other markets, including the option to get a car painted in pretty much any standard shade across the current VAG range for a hefty additional cost. Perhaps they believe there aren't enough people who'd want to pay out £1700 to get a Golf in Seat Ibiza Lima Green etc, so didn't take up the option. I'm sure certain markets have access to Alcantara GTI seats that the UK can't get. As you buy your VW from VW UK and not VW AG, you have to be content with what they allow you to spec.
The CSS is a different kettle of fish but have you ever asked VWuk about this in recent times? I think it was 2009 i was told I had to get the dealer to put in a special request with a certain department then they would put a special request in with the factory. Came to about £2k iirc for paint option available in Germany and added lots of leed time. The posts I think are all on this forum.
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Just had a thought;
The German Mk7 GTI buyers have always had the option to choose any paint colour from the VW range at a modest extra cost confirming that they get a wider choice of options than we do. In fact there whole speccing process has always been very different to ours with barely anything coming as standard.
Does anyone know if they could actually spec black wheels or roof rather than getting the fixed spec we got?
Do you think 2000 Euros or thereabouts is modest for a factory paint job? :shocked:
Well Audi in 2013 wanted £2025 for any Audi colour on TT RS and £2525 for custom colour, Porsche charge £3399 for colour to sample so yes £1700 isn't bad.
I appreciate VW UK's spec and options are way different to German market hence why I was asking whether the basic Clubsport S over there was like ours and the black wheels and roof where part of their less restrictive customisation options and not just part of their standard CSS spec.
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Viper, did they warn you that the Cup tyres may not work as effectively as normal tyres?
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No, the dealer didn't but I'm no stranger to these tyres
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Just had a thought;
The German Mk7 GTI buyers have always had the option to choose any paint colour from the VW range at a modest extra cost confirming that they get a wider choice of options than we do. In fact there whole speccing process has always been very different to ours with barely anything coming as standard.
Does anyone know if they could actually spec black wheels or roof rather than getting the fixed spec we got?
Do you think 2000 Euros or thereabouts is modest for a factory paint job? :shocked:
Well Audi in 2013 wanted £2025 for any Audi colour on TT RS and £2525 for custom colour, Porsche charge £3399 for colour to sample so yes £1700 isn't bad.
I appreciate VW UK's spec and options are way different to German market hence why I was asking whether the basic Clubsport S over there was like ours and the black wheels and roof where part of their less restrictive customisation options and not just part of their standard CSS spec.
I asked a german owner on the facebook page if he had the opportunity to choose spec and he said he did not.
We used to be able to have cars painted in colours not offered if a car in the same factory was painted in the same colour requested, it didn't cost any extra. I remember ordering an EOS in candy white when it wasn't offered on the car. They have stopped this because they cut down their staff and the amount of admin required for the already long list of customisation in the price list is quite intensive. We do pay less for factory options than the germans though so VWUK is doing a good job of keeping option prices under control by offering a more limited range.
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No, the dealer didn't but I'm no stranger to these tyres
Do they need a warning if like me you are a stranger to them?
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Just had a thought;
The German Mk7 GTI buyers have always had the option to choose any paint colour from the VW range at a modest extra cost confirming that they get a wider choice of options than we do. In fact there whole speccing process has always been very different to ours with barely anything coming as standard.
Does anyone know if they could actually spec black wheels or roof rather than getting the fixed spec we got?
Do you think 2000 Euros or thereabouts is modest for a factory paint job? :shocked:
Well Audi in 2013 wanted £2025 for any Audi colour on TT RS and £2525 for custom colour, Porsche charge £3399 for colour to sample so yes £1700 isn't bad.
I appreciate VW UK's spec and options are way different to German market hence why I was asking whether the basic Clubsport S over there was like ours and the black wheels and roof where part of their less restrictive customisation options and not just part of their standard CSS spec.
It's a justifiable cost for a colour not routinely used at the factory, but it is by no means modest. Metallic paint is the biggest rip off in car manufacture. I used to work at the Transit van plant in Southampton (now closed), and metallic paint costs were about £3 per van more than solid colours, that was at a time before solid colours routinely got a lacquer top coat. Metallic paint is no more likely to require warranty work, and since we now get a clearcoat on white/red Golfs, it is no more time consuming to spray metallics over non-metallics. The Yanks get free metallic paint, as do a few other places in Europe.
For a non routine colour one of 2 thiings has to happen:-
1. Your assembled bodyshell gets shipped to the plant that does paint its own vehicles in the colour you want, painted and shipped back very carefully to avoid transit damage.
2. They need to have a fully cleaned down paint booth to accommodate your special paint job which is then cleaned down again - lots of downtime due to inefficient use of that booth for a "one off" - VWs time costs you a lot of money.
Both options are justifiably expensive, far more so than the cost of plant standard metallic paint over non-metallic paint.
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Exhaust manifold too technical a question
Battery is smaller
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Thank you sir, always good to see the unusual parts. :wink:
Do you get a spare? I guess not, but do you get tyre foam? or something else?
Regarding the exhaust, if I remember correctly its supposed to be 65mm diameter instead of 55mm on the Gti's (or something like that perhaps 65 to 75mm). Anyway I wasn't sure if it was thicker all the way to the turbo as a complete revised exhaust system for the CCS, or whether it was a normal exhaust that has a stepped sleeve or reducer to change for a standard GTI exhaust say after the downpipe to the larger 65mm somewhere along the length.
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The cars are painted not in batches of colours, but instead different colours are painted in sequence as they pass through the automated spray booths...you can have a red car followed by white, followed by black, all painted by the same robotic sprayer
The biggest issue will be having just enough individual colour paint for one car set up in the robotic sprayer, when 99% of the cars ordered are the standard colours - I hate to imagine the amount of paint each paint shop goes through daily
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Just noticed that the mats in Vipers are plain black rather than the lovely GTI branded items in the CS Ed 40, still better than the press release which said no mats
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Amazing ... there's a surprise - would have been nice to get CS-S parafanalia but it looks like all the extras are for CS 40 owners :whistle:
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No spare.
I need to talk to the dealer as I appear not to have a towing eye or wherl cap hook or anything.
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Just noticed that the mats in Vipers are plain black rather than the lovely GTI branded items in the CS Ed 40, still better than the press release which said no mats
Had seen pics of another UK car pre delivery and it had red bound mats still in the wrapping in the boot area
Will have a look for pics
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The cars are painted not in batches of colours, but instead different colours are painted in sequence as they pass through the automated spray booths...you can have a red car followed by white, followed by black, all painted by the same robotic sprayer
The biggest issue will be having just enough individual colour paint for one car set up in the robotic sprayer, when 99% of the cars ordered are the standard colours - I hate to imagine the amount of paint each paint shop goes through daily
When they can switch colours from car to car with a short purge of the spray lines, then there really is no justification in charging 2 grand for a non-standard paint colour as the interruption to the production process will be minimal. The Golf could use a more diverse palette, it is quite dull right now - hopefully the colours getting discontinued in the facelift will be getting replaced rather than making the choice even narrower.
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Just noticed that the mats in Vipers are plain black rather than the lovely GTI branded items in the CS Ed 40, still better than the press release which said no mats
Had seen pics of another UK car pre delivery and it had red bound mats still in the wrapping in the boot area
Will have a look for pics
I've kept the red bound mats in the bag for preservation.
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Just noticed that the mats in Vipers are plain black rather than the lovely GTI branded items in the CS Ed 40, still better than the press release which said no mats
Had seen pics of another UK car pre delivery and it had red bound mats still in the wrapping in the boot area
Will have a look for pics
I've kept the red bound mats in the bag for preservation.
Good idea!
On another note the ECOTY 2016 video will be released soon so that will be fun to watch.
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No spare.
I need to talk to the dealer as I appear not to have a towing eye or wherl cap hook or anything.
Towing eye may be worth while if you don't get the tyre foam stuff either? If not I am surprised the car can leave a VW dealer without something to help in the event of a puncture, no matter how good or bad they are whether its space saver or tyre foam. If you get/need a spare I guess it will need to be secured someway or another.
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You'll need a towing eye for the marshals to extract you from a gravel trap anyway.
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No spare.
I need to talk to the dealer as I appear not to have a towing eye or wherl cap hook or anything.
Towing eye may be worth while if you don't get the tyre foam stuff either? If not I am surprised the car can leave a VW dealer without something to help in the event of a puncture, no matter how good or bad they are whether its space saver or tyre foam. If you get/need a spare I guess it will need to be secured someway or another.
It comes with breakdown cover at least, I will be getting a can of tyre foam.
No towing eye on any car let alone a track biased car is a bit of an oversight.
Can anyone confirm the lashing eyes are there for a luggage net? I'd be surprised if one wasn't supplied considering there is no parcel shelf to keep things contained during a roll over.
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You know this "ring/race" setting is niggling me.
The ring setting was set to give a bit of compliance because of the undulating surface, it needed a bit more compliance.
Therefor, race mode cannot be ring mode as for a dry circuit the surface would be spot on and a harder setting would be required.
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Yes there's 4 lashing eyes for the net
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You know this "ring/race" setting is niggling me.
The ring setting was set to give a bit of compliance because of the undulating surface, it needed a bit more compliance.
Therefor, race mode cannot be ring mode as for a dry circuit the surface would be spot on and a harder setting would be required.
jjgreenwood reminded us yesterday that whatever "'ring" mode there is, is actually accessed via Individual mode.
In Individual you can adjust the settings for the engine, (fake) engine sound and also DCC suspension and more. What jjgreenwood said quoting what Dan Trent said on the Pistonheads video was that if you reset the settings in Individual mode, THIS is the settings used for the 'ring.
This means you can still use RACE mode which will have DCC at its firmest and you can still choose the hardest DCC setting in Individual mode but this wont be "'ring" mode
Here's the video, fast forward to 4 mins 30 secs, you will see that when he presses reset, most things go to RACE but DCC actually goes to COMFORT, bit of a surprise!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b27H2q_4ITQ&t=246s
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Volkswizard, I went through the set up with Viper yesterday, I am reasonably competent with the set up and modes, neither of us could find "ring" mode distinct from the "race" setting. We Even tried again with the stability system switched off to see if that was a way in?
I have sent Viper contact details for VW's "product manager", maybe he can shed some light on the mysterious mode?
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Volkswizard, I went through the set up with Viper yesterday, I am reasonably competent with the set up and modes, neither of us could find "ring" mode distinct from the "race" setting. We Even tried again with the stability system switched off to see if that was a way in?
I have sent Viper contact details for VW's "product manager", maybe he can shed some light on the mysterious mode?
I've edited the post you replied to as you were typing, so sorry about that, have a re-read, all should be clear.
The clue is that Dan describes it as 'hidden' and it really is!
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No spare.
I need to talk to the dealer as I appear not to have a towing eye or wherl cap hook or anything.
Towing eye may be worth while if you don't get the tyre foam stuff either? If not I am surprised the car can leave a VW dealer without something to help in the event of a puncture, no matter how good or bad they are whether its space saver or tyre foam. If you get/need a spare I guess it will need to be secured someway or another.
It comes with breakdown cover at least, I will be getting a can of tyre foam.
No towing eye on any car let alone a track biased car is a bit of an oversight.
Can anyone confirm the lashing eyes are there for a luggage net? I'd be surprised if one wasn't supplied considering there is no parcel shelf to keep things contained during a roll over.
so you are gonna need:
Generic tyre foam or a specific VW foam kit with case
little hook for the black caps
alloy bar for safe wheel removal to avoid calipers
locking wheel nut (don't answer that)
tow hook (or loop as it looks)
Net fixing points? Or locations for trim pieces if you had a false floor? Alternatively you could have a space saver (bit heavy i guess) and wheel kit that sits neatly next to it to hold all the other parts? See below, (Minus the sub) it would sit neat and tidy without issue in a crash, and you lift the lot out when on track.
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You know this "ring/race" setting is niggling me.
The ring setting was set to give a bit of compliance because of the undulating surface, it needed a bit more compliance.
Therefor, race mode cannot be ring mode as for a dry circuit the surface would be spot on and a harder setting would be required.
The Ring setting would niggle me too. Most of the other stuff I would happily do without but on a car built purely from that time and so heavily advertised (rightly so) I think the absence of the mode setting would bother me too.. I guess it would put dampers in comfort mode? and the engine, steering etc in Sport? (if it has active dampers)
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STOP PRESS......STOP PRESS
I've found the hidden bit
As Volksman correctly said
In individual, Paul, yesterday we had trouble finding reset, it doesn't scroll down easily it would seem.
When reset it turns everything to race except suspenders which goes to comfort
Also I have discovered it does in fact have the courtesy light (or whatever they're called) the jobbies that turn on when you turn into a side turning. They're positioned in the side of the inner headlamp pointing sideways. Very neat
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Great news!
I wonder what else is left to discover? :)
I have to say, how bumpy has the road got to be for comfort to be the optimal setting?
As I said, I thought "race" was perfectly acceptable on a B road without noticeable bump steer or tram lining at sensible speeds.
The comfort suspension setting probably comes into it's own nearer record setting speeds, where the "race" may throw you off of the chosen line!?
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STOP PRESS......STOP PRESS
I've found the hidden bit
As Volksman correctly said
In individual, Paul, yesterday we had trouble finding reset, it doesn't scroll down easily it would seem.
When reset it turns everything to race except suspenders which goes to comfort
Also I have discovered it does in fact have the courtesy light (or whatever they're called) the jobbies that turn on when you turn into a side turning. They're positioned in the side of the inner headlamp pointing sideways. Very neat
:laugh:
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Cool
@clubsport, Can you imagine karrusell or mini karrusell or even Wippermann in race mode! Even the corner out of Adenau, up hill off camber (not sure what its called) In comfort it would be so compliant and rapid...
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I agree JT, I wonder how much air it gets at the Karrusell, I would always start taking the lock off before the car took off to hopefully come back on line!
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Cool
@clubsport, Can you imagine karrusell or mini karrusell or even Wippermann in race mode! Even the corner out of Adenau, up hill off camber (not sure what its called) In comfort it would be so compliant and rapid...
Breidschied
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I'd just like to say, I won't be going near the ring again after my last visit
Hated it. Smells of death
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Good to know it as the setting .
What's your dealer said about lack of toe eye and wheel brace etc .
Has anyone else took delivery?
Mines at the dock in U.K and as been since last week. But dealer can't tell me when they will take delivery 🙄.
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I'd just like to say, I won't be going near the ring again after my last visit
Hated it. Smells of death
Plenty of great circuits here to get bored of first.
I just like to go and watch everyone else, and driving there is half the fun, well it was the first few times.
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Yeah I even tried to MTB around it a couple of times, me sitting at Breidschied after popping into Rewe i was knackered at half way :grin:
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I'm my car gallery pics below I have a nice one of Ed (I think that's his name) 1 hand out the window, 1 wheel off the ground into the mini Karrusell in BMW with a scared passenger. And the inevitable helicopter that pics up people that weren't so lucky, still a great place to visit
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Yeah I even tried to MTB around it a couple of times, me sitting at Breidschied after popping into Rewe i was knackered at half way :grin:
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In my car gallery pics below I have a nice one of Ed (I think that's his name) 1 hand out the window, 1 wheel off the ground into the mini Karrusell in BMW with a sh*t scared passenger. And the inevitable helicopter that pics up people that weren't so lucky, still a great place to visit
There are some great trails in the infield, always been meaning to take a bike there but never been in the right sort of car
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Good to know it as the setting .
What's your dealer said about lack of toe eye and wheel brace etc .
Has anyone else took delivery?
Mines at the dock in U.K and as been since last week. But dealer can't tell me when they will take delivery 🙄.
Will pop in tomorrow.
My dealer put it on priority delivery for me.
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Good to know it as the setting .
What's your dealer said about lack of toe eye and wheel brace etc .
Has anyone else took delivery?
Mines at the dock in U.K and as been since last week. But dealer can't tell me when they will take delivery 🙄.
Will pop in tomorrow.
My dealer put it on priority delivery for me.
What exactly are you getting?
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Red one with air con . Special order no black roof !!!! 😂
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Red one with air con . Special order no black roof !!!! 😂
Sorry NewCsS that was @ViperGTS as I wanted to know what the dealer was order for him.
However, welcome and keep us posted, my car is like yours between the port and the dealer (which is on the other side of the country from the import dock)
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Sorry whatcarecyouvasking, which dealer?
Beadles Otford
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Sorry whatcarecyouvasking, which dealer?
Beadles Otford
Sorry, crossed wires.
Is the dealer ordering you some parts that should have come with the car but didn't?
Jackie Treehorn made a good point about locking wheel bolt key, does it have locking bolts? If so where's the key kept as it's normally in the foam insert in the spare/spare wheel well?
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Ah ok. Going to dealer today to ask about missing bits
Locking nut was in glove box which he pointed out to me.
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Ah ok. Going to dealer today to ask about missing bits
Locking nut was in glove box which he pointed out to me.
It will be interesting to see what they say as to me the missing bits appear to be a deliberate omission in line with the clubsport ethos. If they put a foam insert in the boot, they'd need to cover it with something that can take the weight of luggage.
Having said that no towing eye is bad and a can of aftermarket tyre foam wouldn't require a separate pump so these are the bare minimum I'd want.
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STOP PRESS......STOP PRESS
I've found the hidden bit
As Volksman correctly said
In individual, Paul, yesterday we had trouble finding reset, it doesn't scroll down easily it would seem.
When reset it turns everything to race except suspenders which goes to Comfort
Also I have discovered it does in fact have the courtesy light (or whatever they're called) the jobbies that turn on when you turn into a side turning. They're positioned in the side of the inner headlamp pointing sideways. Very neat
Wouldn't you think this whole thing would be thought through better ....! The selling feature of the car is the N ring time - this feature should be screaming at you in the settings, not hidden away under a reset ?!
It's taken 2 intelligent, ardent VW fans to find it ... this is crazy! Even if it was described as RACE 2 setting it would be more logical, as for the toe eye - wow ... and then the fact that VW & VW uk don't make mention in the handbook or even a supplement like on Gt porsches to highlight the CS-S differences and how to Find/adjust them ...?!
#Incredulous
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STOP PRESS......STOP PRESS
I've found the hidden bit
As Volksman correctly said
In individual, Paul, yesterday we had trouble finding reset, it doesn't scroll down easily it would seem.
When reset it turns everything to race except suspenders which goes to Comfort
Also I have discovered it does in fact have the courtesy light (or whatever they're called) the jobbies that turn on when you turn into a side turning. They're positioned in the side of the inner headlamp pointing sideways. Very neat
Wouldn't you think this whole thing would be thought through better ....! The selling feature of the car is the N ring time - this feature should be screaming at you in the settings, not hidden away under a reset ?!
It's taken 2 intelligent, ardent VW fans to find it ... this is crazy! Even if it was described as RACE 2 setting it would be more logical, as for the toe eye - wow ... and then the fact that VW & VW uk don't make mention in the handbook or even a supplement like on Gt porsches to highlight the CS-S differences and how to Find/adjust them ...?!
#Incredulous
Has Viper definitely checked the handbook? I know it would be the last place I'd look (after forum, or a Pistonheads video..)
I find these f**k ups quite endearing actually as it just shows how special a car this is to VW in that they aren't thinking of everything we are because a low volume car is such an unusual position for them to be in. If this is testing the water, then maybe next time they will learn by their mistakes. I mean whoever thought it was clever for a RHD Mk1 Golf GTI to have the brake servo on the passenger side and connect it to the pedal by a flexible linkage, in the Mk2 this was sorted. Didn't do the Mk1 any harm in the icon rankings though
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STOP PRESS......STOP PRESS
I've found the hidden bit
As Volksman correctly said
In individual, Paul, yesterday we had trouble finding reset, it doesn't scroll down easily it would seem.
When reset it turns everything to race except suspenders which goes to Comfort
Also I have discovered it does in fact have the courtesy light (or whatever they're called) the jobbies that turn on when you turn into a side turning. They're positioned in the side of the inner headlamp pointing sideways. Very neat
Wouldn't you think this whole thing would be thought through better ....! The selling feature of the car is the N ring time - this feature should be screaming at you in the settings, not hidden away under a reset ?!
It's taken 2 intelligent, ardent VW fans to find it ... this is crazy! Even if it was described as RACE 2 setting it would be more logical, as for the toe eye - wow ... and then the fact that VW & VW uk don't make mention in the handbook or even a supplement like on Gt porsches to highlight the CS-S differences and how to Find/adjust them ...?!
#Incredulous
Has Viper definitely checked the handbook? I know it would be the last place I'd look (after forum, or a Pistonheads video..)
I find these f**k ups quite endearing actually as it just shows how special a car this is to VW in that they aren't thinking of everything we are because a low volume car is such an unusual position for them to be in. If this is testing the water, then maybe next time they will learn by their mistakes. I mean whoever thought it was clever for a RHD Mk1 Golf GTI to have the brake servo on the passenger side and connect it to the pedal by a flexible linkage, in the Mk2 this was sorted. Didn't do the Mk1 any harm in the icon rankings though
Volks - I do see your point and a bit of romance is quite nice ... I am a huge fan of the underdog and was drawn to the CS-S and away from an M2 for similar reasons to your post as in truth M cars are not M cars anymore apart from the badge and some would say Gt porsches the same ... the CS-S looks like VW's attempt to join the CSL market with a stripped out special edition ... the car looks to be a different class to its competition, hence ECOTY result which was fantastic for VW - just a bit more thought about processes that maximises the cars impact would have been great for the enthusiast, then again it gives us something to talk about which is always good ... 👍
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STOP PRESS......STOP PRESS
I've found the hidden bit
As Volksman correctly said
In individual, Paul, yesterday we had trouble finding reset, it doesn't scroll down easily it would seem.
When reset it turns everything to race except suspenders which goes to Comfort
Also I have discovered it does in fact have the courtesy light (or whatever they're called) the jobbies that turn on when you turn into a side turning. They're positioned in the side of the inner headlamp pointing sideways. Very neat
Wouldn't you think this whole thing would be thought through better ....! The selling feature of the car is the N ring time - this feature should be screaming at you in the settings, not hidden away under a reset ?!
It's taken 2 intelligent, ardent VW fans to find it ... this is crazy! Even if it was described as RACE 2 setting it would be more logical, as for the toe eye - wow ... and then the fact that VW & VW uk don't make mention in the handbook or even a supplement like on Gt porsches to highlight the CS-S differences and how to Find/adjust them ...?!
#Incredulous
Has Viper definitely checked the handbook? I know it would be the last place I'd look (after forum, or a Pistonheads video..)
I find these f**k ups quite endearing actually as it just shows how special a car this is to VW in that they aren't thinking of everything we are because a low volume car is such an unusual position for them to be in. If this is testing the water, then maybe next time they will learn by their mistakes. I mean whoever thought it was clever for a RHD Mk1 Golf GTI to have the brake servo on the passenger side and connect it to the pedal by a flexible linkage, in the Mk2 this was sorted. Didn't do the Mk1 any harm in the icon rankings though
Volks - I do see your point and a bit of romance is quite nice ... I am a huge fan of the underdog and was drawn to the CS-S and away from an M2 for similar reasons to your post as in truth M cars are not M cars anymore apart from the badge and some would say Gt porsches the same ... the CS-S looks like VW's attempt to join the CSL market with a stripped out special edition ... the car looks to be a different class to its competition, hence ECOTY result which was fantastic for VW - just a bit more thought about processes that maximises the cars impact would have been great for the enthusiast, then again it gives us something to talk about which is always good ... 👍
As long as the engineering brilliance has been performed thoroughly and the car has been built to the expected VW standards, I can live with most of it.
Yes M, RS, AMG, all been diluted over last decade. I suppose the 1M was closer to the CS-S in its skunk-works ethos although can't say I am too familiar with that, what do you think? Impressed they went wide body on such a low volume car but hardware seemed a bit run of the mill.
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- just a bit more thought about processes that maximises the cars impact would have been great for the enthusiast, then again it gives us something to talk about which is always good ... 👍
I still want a DVD and signed poster, I swear I am going to track that Benny dude down in 2017 and he's going to sign 150 of something :wink:
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Volks - Funnily enough I think the CS-S is the new 1M ... something neache market, low volume and low cost ... I think it will find a similar trend to the 1M although in truth the CS-S is being recognised above the 1M by the media (ECOTY) and did struggle to sell when it was launched ... I was actually offered a last build car for 7% off list price by local BMW dealership and should have taken it ... big time regret !!
As most people do, I prefer naturally aspirated as found the 1M ran out of pace when overtaking on a B road and by the time you'd grabbed 3rd you'd lost allot of valuable overtaking time .... that's why I disagree with criticisms of the GT4 gearing, as do most owners as it gives you masses of over taking zing in 2nd gear for the B road blasts but also has that lovely build of torque and richness when your in a higher gear and just want to lazy past someone without shifting down ... let's hope the CS-S can do some of that ..??!
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GT4, I can't work out if you are trolling or don't quite get it sometimes! :)
At this stage, one of the best things you could do is take a regular GTi out for a test drive, that way you may appreciate what they have done with the CS-S.
It is a GTi evolved to increase it's potential, not the actual Messiah as such that was previously conceived in the form of a GT4 Cayman. :)
Like so many cars it is a compromise in some areas to excel in others.
Have a look at the PH CS-S drive video posted on this forum, Dan Trent (editor) is impressed, his conclusion may be your best bet?
Ph CS-S video if you can't find it; http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-germancars/vw-golf-gti-clubsport-s-ph-videoblog/34841
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Clubsport has a very good point
Think of all the motoring journalists that have drive the car and driven it hard, they have nothing but absolute praise for it, nowhere (that I'm aware of) have the honked about it.
From todays findings, I noticed that it sometimes has a lovely crackle and pop on over-run, even on intial start up too.
With regards to the tow eye etc. My dealer rang the VW sales guys at MK who said it comes with none of that gear, not a tow eye or a pick to take the wheel nut caps off let alone a can of splodge
I cannot believe this, I will write to the top banana
On the plus side a great big bag of tubes and nuts and bolts turned up today, I need to figure it all out and wait for a sunny day to fit it all with the Schroth harnesses. This with make the car look a whole lot more purposeful.
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With regards to the tow eye etc. My dealer rang the VW sales guys at MK who said it comes with none of that gear, not a tow eye or a pick to take the wheel nut caps off let alone a can of splodge
Doesn't make sense that they put the caps on the wheel nuts but don't give the removal tool, could have just left them off.
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Good job you get free breakdown cover. If you get a flat you have to call them. Can't believe they won't give you means to remove the wheel. Some of you guys want VW to give you special stuff to celebrate the limited edition status . Not much chance of that now!
How much is the wheel pack from VW ?
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Less is more don't you know? :grin:
Does the CSS come with 3 years breakdown as you don't get a spare nor the means to change the non-existent spare? VW give the worst breakdown cover across VAG.
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Do the Porsche and BMW GT/S things come with spare wheel gubbins? I assumed these track specials just binned all that sort of thing off.
The wheel pack won't be cheap because you'll also need the variable floor thing. I'll probably just keep one of those cans of gunk in the glovebox - has anyone actually used one as I do wonder how effective they are.
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Wheel foam as different results depending on what causes the puncture and is only made to get you to the nearest garage!! But read somewhere that once the tyre had it in they recommend it washed out and it affects the tyre inside wall some say that the tyre can't be repaired!!
Think If I get puncture I just call VW breakdown they provided a car and no way of removing the wheel. ☹️️
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Hello Gents,
Thought I'd get in on the action as well, been following this for a while.
My black CSS (with black roof :wink:) is being delivered tomorrow to my dealer.
I shall put some pictures up, especially on the paint colour comparison to my diamond black pearl R32.
Who knows what it's going to be..
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Hello Gents,
Thought I'd get in on the action as well, been following this for a while.
My black CSS (with black roof :wink:) is being delivered tomorrow to my dealer.
I shall put some pictures up, especially on the paint colour comparison to my diamond black pearl R32.
Who knows what it's going to be..
Welcome WWCSS - pictures and thoughts/opinions would be good 😊
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There seems to be a lot at dealers and on their way judging by you lot
Amazed nobody else has got theirs
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Number 235 in red is being collected today at 10am, and should be with me later afternoon :)
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Wheel foam as different results depending on what causes the puncture and is only made to get you to the nearest garage!! But read somewhere that once the tyre had it in they recommend it washed out and it affects the tyre inside wall some say that the tyre can't be repaired!!
Think If I get puncture I just call VW breakdown they provided a car and no way of removing the wheel. ☹️️
Alot of makes now only supply foam and a pump and nothing else. No jack or wheel brace. When we bought a new car earlier this year it was the first thing I looked at to check what if anything it came with. I then got them to add the expensive kit of parts of spacesaver and tool kit into the deal.
Iooking at and reading about CSS from the start im actually astonished non of the CSS buyers even thought about what if anything was included.
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I cant believe VW don't supply you with the means to remove the wheels - can one of the VW dealers on here look into that, i thought that would be braking the DVLA guidelines and contravening some laws in some way ... How would it pass an MOT ?? Also, is this not part of the PDi ...???
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Hello Gents,
Thought I'd get in on the action as well, been following this for a while.
My black CSS (with black roof ;) ) is being delivered tomorrow to my dealer.
I shall put some pictures up, especially on the paint colour comparison to my diamond black pearl R32.
Who knows what it's going to be..
She's finally arrived at my dealer! Dropped in to have a look today while the pre-delivery inspection is being done.
I am happy to report that the colour is indeed the VW Deep Black Pearl, not a variation or grey as some of the press cars were.
(https://s16.postimg.org/ce8ps4qj9/Full_Size_Render.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/trj06zlu9/)
(https://s16.postimg.org/uigbqidlh/IMG_0309.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/tsxje5d1t/)
(https://s16.postimg.org/elhjtsl79/IMG_0311.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3lwci6us1/)
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It looks fantastic!
DBP is a great colour for a GTI, especially when clean :drool:
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Thanks Kalimon!
It ONLY looks good when clean..
Getting the front wrapped in XPEL PPF next week, as every little paint chip shows up on black.
This was the quote I got if anyone is interested:
Partial front kit - £950.00
Includes full front bumper, partial bonnet (22" from leading front bonnet edge), partial wings, full headlights and mirrors.
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Looks great ... 😍 Are you getting them to leave the plates off so they don't drill through bumper ..?
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Thanks GT4!
Nice little collection going on now with the R32 in the same colour.
Did you leave your plates off, and if so, how did you fix them? DS Tape?
It does look nicer without a holder, and also like the idea of not getting the bumper drilled.
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Too late, already fitted now..
Oh well.
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I went in and saw mine today, it hadn't been pdi'd but I played around with the individual setting and started it up - my life this thing sounds awesome can't wait to drive it.
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Some pics of a black CSS all shiny in a UK showroom coming up, black roof too.
One of 3 cars going to 3 brothers, each having a different colour - neither of the other 2 have landed yet
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5527/31372873591_72701325bd_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PNjbiD)Black UK Clubsport S (https://flic.kr/p/PNjbiD) by Andrew Chapple (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135854525@N03/), on Flickr
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5514/31488894855_2f3a27fde7_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PYyPog)Black UK Clubsport S (https://flic.kr/p/PYyPog) by Andrew Chapple (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135854525@N03/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5521/30647701704_05a90edbab_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NGetY5)Black UK Clubsport S (https://flic.kr/p/NGetY5) by Andrew Chapple (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135854525@N03/), on Flickr
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5473/31488902175_63429c664f_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PYyRyt)Black UK Clubsport S (https://flic.kr/p/PYyRyt) by Andrew Chapple (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135854525@N03/), on Flickr
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Some pics of a black CSS all shiny in a UK showroom coming up, black roof too
(https://www.instagram.com/p/BNuPNQCjIJR)
A black roof, are you sure ???
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Some pics of a black CSS all shiny in a UK showroom coming up, black roof too.
One of 3 cars going to 3 brothers, each having a different colour - neither of the other 2 have landed yet
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5527/31372873591_72701325bd_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PNjbiD)Black UK Clubsport S (https://flic.kr/p/PNjbiD) by Andrew Chapple (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135854525@N03/), on Flickr
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5514/31488894855_2f3a27fde7_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PYyPog)Black UK Clubsport S (https://flic.kr/p/PYyPog) by Andrew Chapple (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135854525@N03/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5521/30647701704_05a90edbab_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NGetY5)Black UK Clubsport S (https://flic.kr/p/NGetY5) by Andrew Chapple (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135854525@N03/), on Flickr
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5473/31488902175_63429c664f_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PYyRyt)Black UK Clubsport S (https://flic.kr/p/PYyRyt) by Andrew Chapple (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135854525@N03/), on Flickr
Most definitely the best colour for one imo :cool:
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Most definitely the best colour for one imo :cool:
I couldn't possibly comment :cool:
One thing that bugs me slightly is that on the red and white cars the side decal is black and therefore looks like a continuation of the air scoop inlay in the front bumper that ends at the wheel arch. On black cars this decal is silver so the link with the front bumper is lost, might have to reject it on that basis :grin:
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I think the black looks stunning and like the silver stripe.
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Number 224 in white delivered to the dealers today really pleased
Pdi next and ceramic coating to be done so will post up pics next week when ready
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Red CS-S at GTI World in Edinburgh
https://www.facebook.com/gtiworld/posts/1498344543528869
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/phope1/15391238_1498343776862279_2278784507982732878_n_zpsml99lzcl.jpg)
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Looks nice in black. Mine been at UK port for a week . Surely it must come soon. Been on A69 and M74 today seen 3 VW transporters no clubsport S on them. I'm getting sad ☹️️
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I think the black looks stunning and like the silver stripe.
So happy with black now - it's fascinating, most people given the colour option "which I wasn't" would have picked white but to me and don't hose me for it, is the weakest colour. Red and Black look great, red more sporty and showy and the black more classy and mean ... silver side stripe goes well with the wheels IMO
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White the quickest though lol !!!
Black looks great when clean but a nightmare to keep especially if you have OCD like me
My wife is superstitious about red cars so that ruled that out
TBH I think they look good in all 3 colours just down to personal preference
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White the quickest though lol !!!
Black looks great when clean but a nightmare to keep especially if you have OCD like me
My wife is superstitious about red cars so that ruled that out
TBH I think they look good in all 3 colours just down to personal preference
I agree Sean ... each colour has its own character :wink:
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Agreed, black looks stunning when clean and impractical for track
Red looks good and I was tempted but white is a Motorsport colour
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Yeah who in their right mind use a black car on track.
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Mine due in the morning at last! :laugh:
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I think the black looks stunning and like the silver stripe.
So happy with black now - it's fascinating, most people given the colour option "which I wasn't" would have picked white but to me and don't hose me for it, is the weakest colour. Red and Black look great, red more sporty and showy and the black more classy and mean ... silver side stripe goes well with the wheels IMO
White is a very weak colour for any car imo. Is it actually a colour ?
Never seen the point of it :whistle:
Only joking obviously I think :undecided:
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I think the black looks stunning and like the silver stripe.
So happy with black now - it's fascinating, most people given the colour option "which I wasn't" would have picked white but to me and don't hose me for it, is the weakest colour. Red and Black look great, red more sporty and showy and the black more classy and mean ... silver side stripe goes well with the wheels IMO
White is a very weak colour for any car imo. Is it actually a colour ?
Never seen the point of it :whistle:
Only joking obviously I think :undecided:
German Racing White, I'm being serious!
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White always reminds me of homologation specials and BMW M3 DTM cars.
Love it.
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White always reminds me of homologation specials and BMW M3 DTM cars.
Love it.
I thought that was a type of milk😀
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The white stuff?
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I've just heard number 190/400 (white) does not have aircon.
Anyone else chosen not to have it?
I'd love to know ViperGTS's choice as he obviously has plans to track it including a cage.
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This is a Golf not a Race car .... :grin:
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Benny is definitely doing his part in making it greater than the sum of its parts and i think even at this early stage - a future classic :rolleyes: :grin:
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Red CS-S at GTI World in Edinburgh
https://www.facebook.com/gtiworld/posts/1498344543528869
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/phope1/15391238_1498343776862279_2278784507982732878_n_zpsml99lzcl.jpg)
Deffo thought that was orange for a minute, bed time I think, absolutely stunning cars
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Mine has now finally arrived, number 240 in white :evil:
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Mine is on the way to the dealer today VW tracker just been updated 😀😀😀😀.
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well finally my car should be on the back of a transporter and delivered to me later today - 235 in Red :)
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Benny is definitely doing his part in making it greater than the sum of its parts and i think even at this early stage - a future classic :rolleyes: :grin:
I think you're bigging it up a bit slightly. A future classic?? Doubt it very much in this day and age.
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number 235 is on the move, and will be home later this afternoon :)
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the mrs is waiting til January to take delivery of hers though..
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Just need a black one now Andrew.
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Just need a black one now Andrew.
He's not having my Black beauty which has just landed at the dealer, getting approval to share the video with you guys.
No 154
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I have one currently at the dealership. Awaiting pictures and confirmation of number.
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number 235 is on the move, and will be home later this afternoon :)
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the mrs is waiting til January to take delivery of hers though..
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Andrew - I thought you were selling the White car ... did you not get any decent offers..??! 😳
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Andrew - I thought you were selling the White car ... did you not get any decent offers..??! 😳
Tell him no :laugh:
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Here is a few of ours:
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/g35/IMG_501.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/g35//IMG_514.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/g35//IMG_515.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/g35//IMG_516.jpg)
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Black CSS at Barnetts VW, Dundee
https://www.facebook.com/BarnettsVolkswagen/posts/1230091823696579
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/phope1/14720324_1230091773696584_3018997706809921467_n_zpslzmladd4.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/phope1/15338783_1230091640363264_2809600433040894427_n_zpsozhoeqrt.jpg)
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Black CSS at Barnetts VW, Dundee
https://www.facebook.com/BarnettsVolkswagen/posts/1230091823696579
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/phope1/14720324_1230091773696584_3018997706809921467_n_zpslzmladd4.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/phope1/15338783_1230091640363264_2809600433040894427_n_zpsozhoeqrt.jpg)
I am really starting to Love the Black ... simply stunning! :laugh: :rolleyes: :shocked: :grin: :kiss:
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Looks best in black from the pics there IMO, second best is red.
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Looks amazing in black :drool: Not sure about that roof spoiler though :undecided:
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Benny is definitely doing his part in making it greater than the sum of its parts and i think even at this early stage - a future classic :rolleyes: :grin:
I think you're bigging it up a bit slightly. A future classic?? Doubt it very much in this day and age.
Mcmaddy - There is absolutely no doubt that it will be a Future Classic .. 400 World wide - 150 Uk - N'ring Record holder - Selling for overs .... When you consider a Gen1 Golf R32 is considered a Classic, imagine what this will be viewed as in 20 Years time by GTi Enthusiasts ... #Gold-Dust
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Were I lucky enough to be getting one, I'd be choosing black in a heatbeat :)
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Forgot to say Barnetts also posted a video of the exhaust sound
https://www.facebook.com/BarnettsVolkswagen/videos/1226124397426655/
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Here is a few of ours:
(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g385/Geebe8/IMG_5013.jpg)
(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g385/Geebe8/IMG_5014.jpg)
(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g385/Geebe8/IMG_5015.jpg)
(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g385/Geebe8/IMG_5016.jpg)
are they awaiting handover to customers?
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number 235 is on the move, and will be home later this afternoon :)
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/15418464_10157791820115177_7170895996634190662_o.jpg?oh=7619f2d26e6896dd89c7da5c521735b3&oe=58B9A7FF)
the mrs is waiting til January to take delivery of hers though..
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/15403602_10157791741810177_3436978874805560874_o.jpg?
oh=86abf372fbd7f1b4cfd9f2a2dfba7418&oe=58BEEC2B)
Andrew - I thought you were selling the White car ... did you not get any decent offers..??! 😳
Spend £12 on pistonheads and you'll find out 👍
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Anyone got photos showing how the dash on aircon and non-aircon cars compare?
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number 235 is on the move, and will be home later this afternoon :)
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/15418464_10157791820115177_7170895996634190662_o.jpg?oh=7619f2d26e6896dd89c7da5c521735b3&oe=58B9A7FF)
the mrs is waiting til January to take delivery of hers though..
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/15403602_10157791741810177_3436978874805560874_o.jpg?
oh=86abf372fbd7f1b4cfd9f2a2dfba7418&oe=58BEEC2B)
Andrew - I thought you were selling the White car ... did you not get any decent offers..??! 😳
Spend £12 on pistonheads and you'll find out 👍
Stop quizzing ... you say your keeping the car the the wife but then advertising it ... what's your decision ??
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number 235 is on the move, and will be home later this afternoon :)
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/15418464_10157791820115177_7170895996634190662_o.jpg?oh=7619f2d26e6896dd89c7da5c521735b3&oe=58B9A7FF)
the mrs is waiting til January to take delivery of hers though..
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/15403602_10157791741810177_3436978874805560874_o.jpg?
oh=86abf372fbd7f1b4cfd9f2a2dfba7418&oe=58BEEC2B)
Andrew - I thought you were selling the White car ... did you not get any decent offers..??! 😳
Spend £12 on pistonheads and you'll find out 👍
Stop quizzing ... you say your keeping the car the the wife but then advertising it ... what's your decision ??
The white ones not advertised anywhere ...
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Here is a few of ours:
(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g385/Geebe8/IMG_5013.jpg)
(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g385/Geebe8/IMG_5014.jpg)
(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g385/Geebe8/IMG_5015.jpg)
(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g385/Geebe8/IMG_5016.jpg)
are they awaiting handover to customers?
Hi, yes all the cars we have are sold. We have a Clubsport 5-Dr DSG with sports seats, DCC, tech pack and Brescias plus a few more bits currently for sale.
All our cars have air so cannot help with what a/c delete looks like
GB
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Think this chap might be being a bit ambitious?
http://m.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C809302
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Think this chap might be being a bit ambitious?
http://m.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C809302
Ridiculously ambitious - "expected for mid to late November delivery"
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It was only £50k a couple of weeks ago.
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It was only £50k a couple of weeks ago.
It's getting people talking but it's silly really as I doubt anyone will pay that when there are cars still for sale at £45k
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It was only £50k a couple of weeks ago.
It's getting people talking but it's silly really as I doubt anyone will pay that when there are cars still for sale at £45k
That's a total piss take. I could name at least half a dozen cars I would take way before I would pay that for a golf
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It was only £50k a couple of weeks ago.
It's getting people talking but it's silly really as I doubt anyone will pay that when there are cars still for sale at £45k
That's a total piss take. I could name at least half a dozen cars I would take way before I would pay that for a golf
He's not going to get that for it, what a joker :grin: There's another thread on here with someone saying there's still CS available to buy, and I agree with that post that there will be discounts to be had. It's such a niche car ie. those who can afford to have a car just to track day that I'm not surprised they haven't sold out.
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Stolen off Instas but on their way to a Dealer near you?
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/viperlee63/1789AFD6-2DED-48E5-8651-D278FECEDF47_zpsrxefutcx.jpeg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/viperlee63/media/1789AFD6-2DED-48E5-8651-D278FECEDF47_zpsrxefutcx.jpeg.html)
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GTI World in Edinburgh apparently have a red CSS available, number 206
https://www.facebook.com/gtiworld/posts/1504957192867604
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GT4 take it you now got yours ? What do you think is it a keeper ?
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GT4 take it you now got yours ? What do you think is it a keeper ?
I'm in the USA at the mo ... will just let it sit there til the new year 😳
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Here is my pre-PDI video from the super helpful David Lay at Murray VW in Newton Abbot, Devon.
https://video.citnow.com/vt4rKC8ZgPZ
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Here is my pre-PDI video from the super helpful David Lay at Murray VW in Newton Abbot, Devon.
https://video.citnow.com/vt4rKC8ZgPZ
Excellent video.
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Here is my pre-PDI video from the super helpful David Lay at Murray VW in Newton Abbot, Devon.
https://video.citnow.com/vt4rKC8ZgPZ
Excellent video.
He should be on TV doing that in one take!
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Here's my PDi video from lookers Teesside ... :shocked: :rolleyes: :smiley:
https://video.citnow.com/vtp6Bc10VS5
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Here's a dilemma
My order for the M4 DTM Champion Edition has been accepted
200 Worldwide and 20 UK RHD
Now what do we do?
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Build another garage.
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Here's a dilemma
My order for the M4 DTM Champion Edition has been accepted
200 Worldwide and 20 UK RHD
Now what do we do?
Is it better than the GTS?
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Here's a dilemma
My order for the M4 DTM Champion Edition has been accepted
200 Worldwide and 20 UK RHD
Now what do we do?
Pass, while rolling the deposit over into an M2 CSL ?
M4 GTS didn't appear to be greatly received from every review I have seen?
(I expect you already have a deposit in for an M2 CSL?)
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I'm not sure it's different other than colour
I've no doubt it'll be overs but I don't want to fall out with my dealer
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I'm not sure it's different other than colour
I've no doubt it'll be overs but I don't want to fall out with my dealer
What's the retail ....? And more importantly what's the design brief
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I'm not sure it's different other than colour
I've no doubt it'll be overs but I don't want to fall out with my dealer
What's the retail ....? And more importantly what's the design brief
£135k .... are you serious ! Just an overboosted tricked up version of one the most underwhelming Modern M cars ... stick with the M2 and/or CS-S .... let someone else lose there shirt on it ?!!!
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Here's my PDi video from lookers Teesside ... :shocked: :rolleyes: :smiley:
https://video.citnow.com/vtp6Bc10VS5
When did yours arrive in port?? Only asking as I've got a gti still sitting at Tyne and it's been in port since last Wednesday.
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Keep up GT4
With the previous and more common GTS it was hardly a car to lose your shirt on when at launch they were 190k
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Here is a few of ours:
(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g385/Geebe8/IMG_5014.jpg)
I see the red one above is on the dealer's website for £49,995.
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Here is a few of ours:
(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g385/Geebe8/IMG_5014.jpg)
I see the red one above is on the dealer's website for £49,995.
Just found it, I must say that is a bit out of order when a main dealer tries it on.
http://usedcars.volkswagen.co.uk/Golf-GTI/GTD/R/GTE/2.0-TSI-GTI-Clubsport-Edition-40-265PS/Epsom/18084005-606110360-123208.aspx?srcmdc=se_na_re_
Should we all request a personal video to keep them busy over the weekend :whistle:
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Here is a few of ours:
(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g385/Geebe8/IMG_5014.jpg)
I see the red one above is on the dealer's website for £49,995.
Just found it, I must say that is a bit out of order when a main dealer tries it on.
http://usedcars.volkswagen.co.uk/Golf-GTI/GTD/R/GTE/2.0-TSI-GTI-Clubsport-Edition-40-265PS/Epsom/18084005-606110360-123208.aspx?srcmdc=se_na_re_
Should we all request a personal video to keep them busy over the weekend :whistle:
Great Reg mind you :cool: :cool:
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My guess is that it's a customers car that they supplied and are now selling on the new owner's behalf....
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My guess is that it's a customers car that they supplied and are now selling on the new owner's behalf....
That's a hideous plate IMHO and illegal - so breaking the rules of their franchise by charging overs and creating and fitting illegal plates, nice touch.
If I went into Drift Bridge and asked for some illegally spaced plates they would rightly say no so one would assume, possibly incorrectly, but possibly not that a staff member was behind the plates and therefore the sale of the car, but they of course may not be.
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My guess is that it's a customers car that they supplied and are now selling on the new owner's behalf....
That's a hideous plate IMHO and illegal - so breaking the rules of their franchise by charging overs and creating and fitting illegal plates, nice touch.
If I went into Drift Bridge and asked for some illegally spaced plates they would rightly say no so one would assume, possibly incorrectly, but possibly not that a staff member was behind the plates and therefore the sale of the car, but they of course may not be.
The plates have their website address on them so they must have made them
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I see the photos have been removed...
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My guess is that it's a customers car that they supplied and are now selling on the new owner's behalf....
The plates have their website address on them so they must have made them
Yes we made them s show plates as the car is not currently on the road. Correctly spaced plates are in the boot ready for fitting when the car gets sold.
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I see the photos have been removed...
Yes removed due to all the negativity. We are in business to buy and sell cars, we were offered a car back due to change of circumstances and now have it for sale.
If its ok for people to buy multiple cars to flip/ship out of country then it should be ok for us to follow our business model.
Happy to discuss it with you if you'd like to call me Andrew, David Jones, Jen Chambers of whatever Nom be plume it is today, you've got my email address.
GB
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I see the photos have been removed...
Yes removed due to all the negativity. We are in business to buy and sell cars, we were offered a car back due to change of circumstances and now have it for sale.
If its ok for people to buy multiple cars to flip/ship out of country then it should be ok for us to follow our business model.
Happy to discuss it with you if you'd like to call me Andrew, David Jones, Jen Chambers of whatever Nom be plume it is today, you've got my email address.
GB
Can you clarify the rules if any from VW UK on charging over RRP for a vehicle? If my source is wrong then I apologise but being a sales manager at a VW main dealership he ought to know but maybe he is referring to brand new unregistered.
My local motor factor wont do any changes to plates that don't conform to the law because he says if someone, for example forgets to swap over after the show, it comes back on him and he could be prosecuted and lose his issuing licence.
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Drift Bridge Volkswagen making those poor main dealers that sold for list look like right mugs.
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Drift Bridge Volkswagen making those poor main dealers that sold for list look like right mugs.
No other main dealer has advertised one yet AFAIK
They can't sell it to the first owner at over RRP.
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Tempted to take the finance deal, only 12.9%, total cost 60k. Not like you can borrow on the high street at 3.3% or anything.
No GFV finance offer, how odd :whistle:
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Not getting enough overs on Porsches, JZM have now moved into the CSS market
http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale/911/golf-gti-clubsport-s-for-sale-964
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I see the photos have been removed...
Yes removed due to all the negativity. We are in business to buy and sell cars, we were offered a car back due to change of circumstances and now have it for sale.
If its ok for people to buy multiple cars to flip/ship out of country then it should be ok for us to follow our business model.
Happy to discuss it with you if you'd like to call me Andrew, David Jones, Jen Chambers of whatever Nom be plume it is today, you've got my email address.
GB
GB, PB or One of the 2 Stuart's that offered me a white car, and a Colleague a red car only to work out that intact we were. It's speaking to the same Stuart. But I for one saw through the BS and managed to secure a car elsewhere and certainly wouldn't recommend Driftbridge to anyone
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Not getting enough overs on Porsches, JZM have now moved into the CSS market
http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale/911/golf-gti-clubsport-s-for-sale-964
I shock my head when I saw that yesterday, surely GT and RS business model flipping can't so easily be transferred to a VW badge'd car?
I doubt we would find out as it could be sold on in the trade and the ad will just have sold written across it.
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Double post :wink:
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Not getting enough overs on Porsches, JZM have now moved into the CSS market
http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale/911/golf-gti-clubsport-s-for-sale-964
I shock my head when I saw that yesterday, surely GT and RS business model flipping can't so easily be transferred to a VW badge'd car?
I doubt we would find out as it could be sold on in the trade and the ad will just have sold written across it.
I read their Facebook post and PMSL at a 50k golf. As you say it will probably just bounce around the trade. I followed a GT4 that did that and eventually gave up on it.
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Just registered. Had to share my enthusiasm for the CS-S.
Started yesterday with 16 miles on the clock and finished with over 300.
What a joy to drive. :laugh:
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Just gave it to my nipper to drive, rather impressed and now on the net looking for a GTi