The CS-S delivery thread

[vipergts]

Exhaust manifold too technical a question

Battery is smaller

[monkeyhanger]

Just had a thought;
The German Mk7 GTI buyers have always had the option to choose any paint colour from the VW range at a modest extra cost confirming that they get a wider choice of options than we do. In fact there whole speccing process has always been very different to ours with barely anything coming as standard.

Does anyone know if they could actually spec black wheels or roof rather than getting the fixed spec we got?

Do you think 2000 Euros or thereabouts is modest for a factory paint job? 

VW UK is the reason why we do or don't get access to certain options that are available in other markets, including the option to get a car painted in pretty much any standard shade across the current VAG range for a hefty additional cost. Perhaps they believe there aren't enough people who'd want to pay out £1700 to get a Golf in Seat Ibiza Lima Green etc, so didn't take up the option. I'm sure certain markets have access to Alcantara GTI seats that the UK can't get. As you buy your VW from VW UK and not VW AG, you have to be content with what they allow you to spec.

[Snoopy]

Just had a thought;
The German Mk7 GTI buyers have always had the option to choose any paint colour from the VW range at a modest extra cost confirming that they get a wider choice of options than we do. In fact there whole speccing process has always been very different to ours with barely anything coming as standard.

Does anyone know if they could actually spec black wheels or roof rather than getting the fixed spec we got?

Do you think 2000 Euros or thereabouts is modest for a factory paint job? 

VW UK is the reason why we do or don't get access to certain options that are available in other markets, including the option to get a car painted in pretty much any standard shade across the current VAG range for a hefty additional cost. Perhaps they believe there aren't enough people who'd want to pay out £1700 to get a Golf in Seat Ibiza Lima Green etc, so didn't take up the option. I'm sure certain markets have access to Alcantara GTI seats that the UK can't get. As you buy your VW from VW UK and not VW AG, you have to be content with what they allow you to spec.

The CSS is a different kettle of fish but have you ever asked VWuk about this in recent times?  I think it was 2009 i was told I had to get the dealer to put in a special request with a certain department then they would put a special request in with the factory. Came to about £2k iirc for paint option available in Germany and added lots of leed time. The posts I think are all on this forum.

[volkswizard]

Just had a thought;
The German Mk7 GTI buyers have always had the option to choose any paint colour from the VW range at a modest extra cost confirming that they get a wider choice of options than we do. In fact there whole speccing process has always been very different to ours with barely anything coming as standard.

Does anyone know if they could actually spec black wheels or roof rather than getting the fixed spec we got?

Do you think 2000 Euros or thereabouts is modest for a factory paint job? 

Well Audi in 2013 wanted £2025 for any Audi colour on TT RS and £2525 for custom colour, Porsche charge £3399 for colour to sample so yes £1700 isn't bad.

I appreciate VW UK's spec and options are way different to German market hence why I was asking whether the basic Clubsport S over there was like ours and the black wheels and roof where part of their less restrictive customisation options and not just part of their standard CSS spec.

[volkswizard]

Viper, did they warn you that the Cup tyres may not work as effectively as normal tyres?

[vipergts]

No, the dealer didn't but I'm no stranger to these tyres

[jjgreenwood]

Just had a thought;
The German Mk7 GTI buyers have always had the option to choose any paint colour from the VW range at a modest extra cost confirming that they get a wider choice of options than we do. In fact there whole speccing process has always been very different to ours with barely anything coming as standard.

Does anyone know if they could actually spec black wheels or roof rather than getting the fixed spec we got?

Do you think 2000 Euros or thereabouts is modest for a factory paint job? 

Well Audi in 2013 wanted £2025 for any Audi colour on TT RS and £2525 for custom colour, Porsche charge £3399 for colour to sample so yes £1700 isn't bad.

I appreciate VW UK's spec and options are way different to German market hence why I was asking whether the basic Clubsport S over there was like ours and the black wheels and roof where part of their less restrictive customisation options and not just part of their standard CSS spec.

I asked a german owner on the facebook page if he had the opportunity to choose spec and he said he did not.

We used to be able to have cars painted in colours not offered if a car in the same factory was painted in the same colour requested, it didn't cost any extra. I remember ordering an EOS in candy white when it wasn't offered on the car. They have stopped this because they cut down their staff and the amount of admin required for the already long list of customisation in the price list is quite intensive. We do pay less for factory options than the germans though so VWUK is doing a good job of keeping option prices under control by offering a more limited range.

[volkswizard]

No, the dealer didn't but I'm no stranger to these tyres

Do they need a warning if like me you are a stranger to them?

[monkeyhanger]

Just had a thought;
The German Mk7 GTI buyers have always had the option to choose any paint colour from the VW range at a modest extra cost confirming that they get a wider choice of options than we do. In fact there whole speccing process has always been very different to ours with barely anything coming as standard.

Does anyone know if they could actually spec black wheels or roof rather than getting the fixed spec we got?

Do you think 2000 Euros or thereabouts is modest for a factory paint job? 

Well Audi in 2013 wanted £2025 for any Audi colour on TT RS and £2525 for custom colour, Porsche charge £3399 for colour to sample so yes £1700 isn't bad.

I appreciate VW UK's spec and options are way different to German market hence why I was asking whether the basic Clubsport S over there was like ours and the black wheels and roof where part of their less restrictive customisation options and not just part of their standard CSS spec.

It's a justifiable cost for a colour not routinely used at the factory, but it is by no means modest. Metallic paint is the biggest rip off in car manufacture. I used to work at the Transit van plant in Southampton (now closed), and metallic paint costs were about £3 per van more than solid colours, that was at a time before solid colours routinely got a lacquer top coat. Metallic paint is no more likely to require warranty work, and since we now get a clearcoat on white/red Golfs, it is no more time consuming to spray metallics over non-metallics. The Yanks get free metallic paint, as do a few other places in Europe.

For a non routine colour one of 2 thiings has to happen:-

1. Your assembled bodyshell gets shipped to the plant that does paint its own vehicles in the colour you want, painted and shipped back very carefully to avoid transit damage.

2. They need to have a fully cleaned down paint booth to accommodate your special paint job which is then cleaned down again - lots of downtime due to inefficient use of that booth for a "one off" - VWs time costs you a lot of money.

Both options are justifiably expensive, far more so than the cost of plant standard metallic paint over non-metallic paint.

[Jackie Treehorn]

Exhaust manifold too technical a question

Battery is smaller

Thank you sir, always good to see the unusual parts.

Do you get a spare? I guess not, but do you get tyre foam? or something else?


Regarding the exhaust, if I remember correctly its supposed to be 65mm diameter instead of 55mm on the Gti's (or something like that perhaps 65 to 75mm).  Anyway I wasn't sure if it was thicker all the way to the turbo as a complete revised exhaust system for the CCS, or whether it was a normal exhaust that has a stepped sleeve or reducer to change for a standard GTI exhaust say after the downpipe to the larger 65mm somewhere along the length.