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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Chief1337 on 29 June 2015, 15:15
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So, let's pretend for a second that there will be no more Golfs (of any variant) made and you had to buy new. What would your next car be?
For me it'd probably be an S4 (maybe an S3) and if I could stretch one of the new C63 AMG Mercs (estate version).
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I would be looking at:
M4
RS5
TTRS
Jaguar XE S
Cayman GTS
If money was no object (and the above list applies to money being no object :grin:), I'd add on:
R8
Jaguar F-Type
Ah, to dream!
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There's a McLaren dealership a couple of hundred yards down the road from where I work and if money were no object id be straight down to take this off their hands
(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx40/CraigW_01/Mobile%20Uploads/5721EA83-282F-4F89-A9A1-BDAF3EAF8DFE.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/CraigW_01/media/Mobile%20Uploads/5721EA83-282F-4F89-A9A1-BDAF3EAF8DFE.jpg.html)
But back to reality. For me probably either an R, 235i or S3
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Funny how only Craig's reality list so far has any cars that are even anywhere near the cost of at GTI/D/R
Me? Dunno. M135i? Maybe even a Peugeot GTI on a cheap lease. Or a Scirocco maybe.
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Funny how only Craig's reality list so far has any cars that are even anywhere near the cost of at GTI/D/R
Me? Dunno. M135i? Maybe even a Peugeot GTI on a cheap lease. Or a Scirocco maybe.
Realistically my max budget is £35k and even that is pushing it. More likely closer to £30 especially with child on the way. Just bought one of these as a more practical car and it's actually quite nice
(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx40/CraigW_01/Mobile%20Uploads/E2815D31-653E-42D6-A4AA-2B524924AFDF.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/CraigW_01/media/Mobile%20Uploads/E2815D31-653E-42D6-A4AA-2B524924AFDF.jpg.html)
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Funny how only Craig's reality list so far has any cars that are even anywhere near the cost of at GTI/D/R
Me? Dunno. M135i? Maybe even a Peugeot GTI on a cheap lease. Or a Scirocco maybe.
Realistically my max budget is £35k and even that is pushing it. More likely closer to £30 especially with child on the way. Just bought one of these as a more practical car and it's actually quite nice
Popular cars; lots of space, loaded with toys and pretty affordable. My step-sis bought one last year, not that I've seen it as she lives 150 miles away.
I have a budget ceiling around your lower limit Craig, at times I've been able to afford cars that are dearer but I just do a reality check and end up with a Golf or similar each time. I just think about the depreciation of dearer cars in £££ terms and it soon brings me down to Earth!
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It's not the sticker price, but the depreciation cost i'm most concerned about. I'm currently not willing to stomach more than £400 a month to cover depreciation of a discounted cash buy. A TTS would fall in that bracket, but it just looks so expensive next to an S3 or R for an extra 10ps. It does come with some extra kit over the TT Sport to justify some of the difference between it and an S3.
When you're thinking about a £25k+ car it has to be VW/Audi at 12% off or a BMW with 24% off to not lose your shirt when you chop it in after 3 years.
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Supercars aside, and with Golf's off the table, realistically I'd be looking at something the better side of £40k. But if I was to throw caution to the wind, RS3 would be very near the top of the list. Audi TTRS - very nice but impractical for my needs. R8 if money and practicality not a factor. BMW M135i? Still too ugly to make me part with my cash.
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SEAT Leon Cupra 280 3door (unless you class that as a golf)
Audi S1
Porsche Cayman GTS
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An up!
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M135i
RS3
CLA45
Dream cars would have to be a yellow F12 berlinetta with a supercharged RR sport, Deep red with black roof and black wheels to suit
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An up!
An up! ? Is that what you'll get if you can't get your money out of the bank in Athens? :whistle:
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The new mustang. If I can cut my commute down I can get the V8...
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An up!
You managed to spell it right this time :tongue:
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An up!
An up! ? Is that what you'll get if you can't get your money out of the bank in Athens? :whistle:
with the 60 EURO restrictions per day it could still take him a very long time to raise up! funds!
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An up!
An up! ? Is that what you'll get if you can't get your money out of the bank in Athens? :whistle:
with the 60 EURO restrictions per day it could still take him a very long time to raise up! funds!
As I have a foreign card, my withdrawals are not restricted. £500 per day if there is enough money in the ATM!
Anyway, don't need a car in Athens as I live in the centre of town and use taxis when required.
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Bmw i8 because the tax man would only get £200 a month in co car tax!
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Probably a Jag XE S V6
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Probably a Jag XE S V6
Snap. Or a BMW 435i Gran Coupe for me.
If I had to get something of similar cost to my GTI, I'd be looking in the direction of a 328i M-Sport if I could haggle hard.
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Not being amongst the ultra-hatch crowd, I'll add some practicality to this discussion...
Needs to be a hatch for me, wouldn't get a French car again, lease prices on the mid sized Vauxhalls or Fords don't make much sense and never did, which is why I always had Mondeos or Vectras/Insignias.
I guess (excluding the obvious swap to another mid sized VAG variant) it would have to be the 1 series Bread Van (not that I really desire one at all) or the Volvo V40 (again, not really my thing).
I would say the likelihood of VW canning their most popular model, the arguably best selling model globally of any medium sized car is zero, but hey, lets play "what if" :D
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"What if" always makes good conversation/forum topics. :-)
New A4 detailed release last night [http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/2015-audi-a4-revealed-full-information-pictures-engine-details/1330845].
Gets the same 'dash' as the new TT - must be an option surely?
Tempting as could use a bigger car, but always might hold out for the new RS4 Avant and weight that up versus a C63 estate.
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"What if" always makes good conversation/forum topics. :-)
New A4 detailed release last night [http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/2015-audi-a4-revealed-full-information-pictures-engine-details/1330845].
Gets the same 'dash' as the new TT - must be an option surely?
Tempting as could use a bigger car, but always might hold out for the new RS4 Avant and weight that up versus a C63 estate.
I'd like to know your secret how you can go from a £30k car to a £60k car in a couple of years.
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I'd like to know your secret how you can go from a £30k car to a £60k car in a couple of years.
Haha! Was thinking the exact same thing. Lotto win :grin:
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"What if" always makes good conversation/forum topics. :-)
New A4 detailed release last night [http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/2015-audi-a4-revealed-full-information-pictures-engine-details/1330845].
Gets the same 'dash' as the new TT - must be an option surely?
Tempting as could use a bigger car, but always might hold out for the new RS4 Avant and weight that up versus a C63 estate.
I'd like to know your secret how you can go from a £30k car to a £60k car in a couple of years.
Gambling! ;-)
In all seriousness - just aiming high and hell it's good to dream.
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So, let's pretend for a second that there will be no more Golfs (of any variant) made and you had to buy new. What would your next car be?
For me it'd probably be an S4 (maybe an S3) and if I could stretch one of the new C63 AMG Mercs (estate version).
I sort of have this problem already. The Golf was bought as my wife's car and she didnt like it so I inherited it as a weekend car (with a Passat estate or similar as company wheels at the time).
Now I have changed jobs, the Golf has to fulfill family duties and it doesnt really cut it (its three doors, I have an aged mum and a son at uni - so lack of doors and lack of boot are drawbacks.... I also drive about 300 miles a week and its nearly all on the motorway so not really the right car for that!)
Picking something at less than £30k / reasonably sensible to run (I am an accountant after all!) and that has bigger boot, more doors, an auto and is decent to drive is hard work. 330d touring is one option - dont want another 4 cylinder diesel as had my fill of them with a Merc! However, getting one at the right price, mileage spec and condition isnt easy. I fancy the GT hatch too but not at the budget yet. Petrol 328i is an option as a bit cheaper..... but I think i would rather have 330d for resale....
Maybe I will just have another Volvo... or keep the GTi and manage!
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So, let's pretend for a second that there will be no more Golfs (of any variant) made and you had to buy new. What would your next car be?
For me it'd probably be an S4 (maybe an S3) and if I could stretch one of the new C63 AMG Mercs (estate version).
I sort of have this problem already. The Golf was bought as my wife's car and she didnt like it so I inherited it as a weekend car (with a Passat estate or similar as company wheels at the time).
Now I have changed jobs, the Golf has to fulfill family duties and it doesnt really cut it (its three doors, I have an aged mum and a son at uni - so lack of doors and lack of boot are drawbacks.... I also drive about 300 miles a week and its nearly all on the motorway so not really the right car for that!)
Picking something at less than £30k / reasonably sensible to run (I am an accountant after all!) and that has bigger boot, more doors, an auto and is decent to drive is hard work. 330d touring is one option - dont want another 4 cylinder diesel as had my fill of them with a Merc! However, getting one at the right price, mileage spec and condition isnt easy. I fancy the GT hatch too but not at the budget yet. Petrol 328i is an option as a bit cheaper..... but I think i would rather have 330d for resale....
Maybe I will just have another Volvo... or keep the GTi and manage!
GTD estate?
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R estate?
I've been tempted by that...
#waitsforabuse! :-)
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GTD estate?
Cant bring myself to go from petrol version to (4 cylinder) diesel version.....it would feel kind of regressive! Not that there is anything at all wrong with the GTD, its just in my head!
have looked at a (prereg) A6 3.0Tdi quattro.... it just sneaks under the upper limit but suspect lease costs will be higher as residuals (its pre reg and pre latest minor facelift) wont be great....
R estate - out of budget and would you buy one to drive 300 miles a week in a straight line through lots of average speed cameras....!
Ian
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Plenty of choices if you want an estate....
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Plenty of choices if you want an estate....
go on then - £30k upper limit or £375 a month PCP on 12k miles a year, six cylinder diesel, or economical and powerful petrol, not an about to be replaced model, not a Skoda or Seat (wife's instructions), and something I can drive 2 and a half hours at a sitting with no problem.....
I'm finding a very short list - even if I go estate, hatch or saloon with big boot.....
A5 sportback - based on old A4 chassis and new one just announced.
Passat - dont know about the new model, the old one was bloody uncomfortable!
Mondeo - would have to be petrol and they are not economical....
Mercedes - E class too big and expensive (and I had one and didnt really like it), new C class isnt available as 6 cylinder diesel.....
wont have french!
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Jag XF [Higher End]
Mazda 6 [Lower End] ?
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Jag XF [Higher End]
Mazda 6 [Lower End] ?
have you seen the dash on an XF? I have seriously looked at them a couple of times before but i cant get past that big horrible silver strip on the dash....
Mazda - great car but only 4 cylinder diesels... nothing wrong with that but i didnt like the one in the Merc and all my diesels prior to that (since 2003 anyway) have been 5 or 6 cylinder and I am finding it hard to accept a 4 pot this time!
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A B8 Passat Alltrack when it comes out.
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A B8 Passat Alltrack when it comes out.
I have to say that i find the new passat bloody ugly.....
anyone think i am finding fault with the alternatives to justify keeping the Golf :)
Ian
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Anyone else think that with all the standard kit on the Golf, it's hard to look at other brands because of all the options you'd need to add on?
I can't not have Xenons now that I've had them in the Golf but most manufacturers are charging £1,000+ for them alone.
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Anyone else think that with all the standard kit on the Golf, it's hard to look at other brands because of all the options you'd need to add on?
I can't not have Xenons now that I've had them in the Golf but most manufacturers are charging £1,000+ for them alone.
I dont think the Golf has anything my wife's mini doesnt have (front parking sensors and active cruise apart - but she has pano roof and half leather and a 20gb hard disk drive thing)..... but yes, I wont buy a replacement with less spec which does make it harder...
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I dont think the Golf has anything my wife's mini doesnt have (front parking sensors and active cruise apart - but she has pano roof and half leather and a 20gb hard disk drive thing)..... but yes, I wont buy a replacement with less spec which does make it harder...
Was that standard equipment on the mini? I specced up one recently and it was barebones to start with but then they have umpteen different models I suppose.
Central vehicle leasing were doing the R estate for just over £200 but its been dropped so maybe see a few deals like that get the R estate moving!
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Was that standard equipment on the mini? I specced up one recently and it was barebones to start with but then they have umpteen different models I suppose.
Central vehicle leasing were doing the R estate for just over £200 but its been dropped so maybe see a few deals like that get the R estate moving!
Its a cooper with chilli pack, media XL (sat nav plus) and some other stuff, list ended up at 22k but paid about 20 and a bit.....
R estate would be wasted on how I use it..... although at £250 a month I'd take one just because I could!
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Well I'm thoroughly enjoying my time in the M135i so I might stick with the brand but go with the M235i and throw some of the m p performance goodies at it, as below:
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/WITHCOMBEM/bmw-m-performance-2-series-coupe-16-750x500_zpslzvvdosl.jpg) (http://s868.photobucket.com/user/WITHCOMBEM/media/bmw-m-performance-2-series-coupe-16-750x500_zpslzvvdosl.jpg.html)
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/WITHCOMBEM/bmw-m-performance-parts-for-the-bmw-2-series-coupe-photo-gallery_zpsszvvigt3.jpg) (http://s868.photobucket.com/user/WITHCOMBEM/media/bmw-m-performance-parts-for-the-bmw-2-series-coupe-photo-gallery_zpsszvvigt3.jpg.html)
Or see if I can stretch to a new M2, M3/M4 or M5 (but I doubt I'll be able to afford one of those tbo especially with the M tax bills that go with owning a car like that).
Dream car would be a Aston Martin Vanquish (now where's that lottery ticket gone).
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Well I'm thoroughly enjoying my time in the M135i so I might stick with the brand but go with the M235i and throw some of the m p performance goodies at it, as below:
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/WITHCOMBEM/bmw-m-performance-2-series-coupe-16-750x500_zpslzvvdosl.jpg) (http://s868.photobucket.com/user/WITHCOMBEM/media/bmw-m-performance-2-series-coupe-16-750x500_zpslzvvdosl.jpg.html)
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/WITHCOMBEM/bmw-m-performance-parts-for-the-bmw-2-series-coupe-photo-gallery_zpsszvvigt3.jpg) (http://s868.photobucket.com/user/WITHCOMBEM/media/bmw-m-performance-parts-for-the-bmw-2-series-coupe-photo-gallery_zpsszvvigt3.jpg.html)
Or see if I can stretch to a new M2, M3/M4 or M5 (but I doubt I'll be able to afford one of those tbo especially with the M tax bills that go with owning a car like that).
Dream car would be a Aston Martin Vanquish (now where's that lottery ticket gone).
Really like the look of the 235i. I would favour that over the 135 and would be a serious contender for my next car
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I'll keep the Golf for a couple of years and then hopefully move onto one of these beauties!
It kinda depends on when BMW decide to release the new version though...
(http://www.innovationcarsltd.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/bmw-420-convertible-2.jpg)
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The new mustang. If I can cut my commute down I can get the V8...
I was planning a 2nd hand 911 next but these are top of my list at the moment, were moving soon so will be doing little mileage so a V8 it is!
Going to wait for a demo to become available hopefully in the Autumn but it look's like a year wait for one once ordered.
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If the gossip is true a V6 Mk8 Golf would be very tempting :cool:
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So, let's pretend for a second that there will be no more Golfs (of any variant) made and you had to buy new. What would your next car be?
For me it'd probably be an S4 (maybe an S3) and if I could stretch one of the new C63 AMG Mercs (estate version).
A hearse.
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Anyone else think that with all the standard kit on the Golf, it's hard to look at other brands because of all the options you'd need to add on?
I can't not have Xenons now that I've had them in the Golf but most manufacturers are charging £1,000+ for them alone.
I spat my dummy out with VW when my GTI went from a 14 week delivery to a 31 week delivery, cancelled and ordered a M135i. With BMW's discount it came in £3k more than the GTI but does have £2k worth of sat nav that I didn't order for the Golf as the tech in BMW looks worth the money. I haven't got keyless, reversing cam (BMW's looks terrible), front sensors or adaptive cruise control but there is an extra 100bhp.
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I'll keep the Golf for a couple of years and then hopefully move onto one of these beauties!
A move to Cheshire too then? :laugh:
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The lease on my R ends mid-March 2018. The 8GTI will arrive in 2019 and the 8R in 2020. Even though leases can be continued for an extra 3 months without Terms and Conditions being changed, this still presents a problem if I want an 8R. Perhaps I can re-lease the present car at a lower cost for an extra 2 years. It seems that this is a distinct possibility.
Otherwise, I might have to switch to another manufacturer. Which one? I have no idea at the moment.
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A move to Cheshire too then? :laugh:
Surely that would necessitate a convertible Evoque?
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A move to Cheshire too then? :laugh:
Surely that would necessitate a convertible Evoque?
:grin:
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Anyone else think that with all the standard kit on the Golf, it's hard to look at other brands because of all the options you'd need to add on?
I can't not have Xenons now that I've had them in the Golf but most manufacturers are charging £1,000+ for them alone.
I spat my dummy out with VW when my GTI went from a 14 week delivery to a 31 week delivery, cancelled and ordered a M135i. With BMW's discount it came in £3k more than the GTI but does have £2k worth of sat nav that I didn't order for the Golf as the tech in BMW looks worth the money. I haven't got keyless, reversing cam (BMW's looks terrible), front sensors or adaptive cruise control but there is an extra 100bhp.
It's amazing quite how different the 135i and GTI are. I know the 125i(?) is probably actually closer to a rival to the GTI in reality but I've got to admit the 135i was the first car I'd driven in years and years that actually made me laugh as I drove it. A proper wild car and two fingers up to the PC brigade. BMW doing what they do best - putting a proper big engine in a car.
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on it. I can't believe BMW don't sell more of these things, I hardly ever see any around and always smile when I see one.
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For me personally, I think I will going down the used car route next time round. Maybe like a 3/4 year old.
I really do like the GTD a lot but feel I could have got a lot more for what I am paying on the second hand market. Yes, yes I know it is a sin to compare new vs. used but I still can't help it.
For what I am paying for the lease on the GTD, I could probably get a used F30 330d next year (when my lease is up) for about the same per month on a personal loan. Only thing that worries me is the maintenance would obviously be a bit more being an "older" car. It would also be mine so wouldn't have to worry about giving it back/balloon payments/mileage restrictions/etc.
Also, I want a bit of a bigger car now that I could afford the insurance, which has always been a bit of an issue for me but now it seems the 330d would cost roughly the same as the GTD - I have no idea how that works but I ain't complaining!
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I'll keep the Golf for a couple of years and then hopefully move onto one of these beauties!
A move to Cheshire too then? :laugh:
Cheeky sh!te! :grin:
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Anyone else think that with all the standard kit on the Golf, it's hard to look at other brands because of all the options you'd need to add on?
I can't not have Xenons now that I've had them in the Golf but most manufacturers are charging £1,000+ for them alone.
I spat my dummy out with VW when my GTI went from a 14 week delivery to a 31 week delivery, cancelled and ordered a M135i. With BMW's discount it came in £3k more than the GTI but does have £2k worth of sat nav that I didn't order for the Golf as the tech in BMW looks worth the money. I haven't got keyless, reversing cam (BMW's looks terrible), front sensors or adaptive cruise control but there is an extra 100bhp.
It's amazing quite how different the 135i and GTI are. I know the 125i(?) is probably actually closer to a rival to the GTI in reality but I've got to admit the 135i was the first car I'd driven in years and years that actually made me laugh as I drove it. A proper wild car and two fingers up to the PC brigade. BMW doing what they do best - putting a proper big engine in a car.
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on it. I can't believe BMW don't sell more of these things, I hardly ever see any around and always smile when I see one.
Yes, it is especially so where performance is concerned.
The present 1 Series will be the last RWD small BMW hatch. Perhaps a collector's piece in the making? Will I moan its passing? No, not one bit, especially with cars like the R/R400/S3/RS3 being available. However, I might buy, not lease, but buy an M135i; used obviously as it will be the last of its breed.
BMW tech in the 1 Series trounces VW tech and then some. Touchscreens, big and small, are so last Tuesday. The really big ones are such a complete waste of big money. :tongue: :evil:
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Anyone else think that with all the standard kit on the Golf, it's hard to look at other brands because of all the options you'd need to add on?
I can't not have Xenons now that I've had them in the Golf but most manufacturers are charging £1,000+ for them alone.
I spat my dummy out with VW when my GTI went from a 14 week delivery to a 31 week delivery, cancelled and ordered a M135i. With BMW's discount it came in £3k more than the GTI but does have £2k worth of sat nav that I didn't order for the Golf as the tech in BMW looks worth the money. I haven't got keyless, reversing cam (BMW's looks terrible), front sensors or adaptive cruise control but there is an extra 100bhp.
It's amazing quite how different the 135i and GTI are. I know the 125i(?) is probably actually closer to a rival to the GTI in reality but I've got to admit the 135i was the first car I'd driven in years and years that actually made me laugh as I drove it. A proper wild car and two fingers up to the PC brigade. BMW doing what they do best - putting a proper big engine in a car.
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on it. I can't believe BMW don't sell more of these things, I hardly ever see any around and always smile when I see one.
Yes, it is especially so where performance is concerned.
The present 1 Series will be the last RWD small BMW hatch. Perhaps a collector's piece in the making? Will I moan its passing? No, not one bit, especially with cars like the R/R400/S3/RS3 being available. However, I might buy, not lease, but buy an M135i; used obviously as it will be the last of its breed.
BMW tech in the 1 Series trounces VW tech and then some. Touchscreens, big and small, are so last Tuesday. The really big ones are such a complete waste of big money. :tongue: :evil:
Here was me thinking you liked a good moan :wink: but I agree I wont mourn its passing either.
This shall be next beauty, as to what colour (blue or black) I am undecided, also after listening to the RS3 round a track I do wonder if I should push out for the 2.5l instead, in fact im going to add up the RS3 extras to see if it justifies the price. RS3 saloon say 2016 anyone?
(https://fbcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-0/11202869_10155801958210118_9217847802206141064_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=ac79c4dc4921eba5aa27a56367326df6&oe=561ACA40&__gda__=1446133846_63b158f7baf5a2f6fa97c2413da143f7)
Orrrrr blue....
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/BristleHound/Audi%20S3%20Saloon/c08c21de41fd67020c574282f4c1e404_zps3fe6aced.jpg)
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I've never liked saloon cars (probably because I grew up in the 70's and there were Cortinas and then Cavaliers everywhere) but have to say that blue one looks quite :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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I've never liked saloon cars (probably because I grew up in the 70's and there were Cortinas and then Cavaliers everywhere) but have to say that blue one looks quite :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
I'll be honest Ex, the blue is a clubsport concept, but should look very rs3 similar, question is do I buy the S3 and make it look better (I really want oval RS pipes) or wait a long time for the saloon rs3 to finally be made?
S3 saloon - (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4Dqb-AN8wv4/VQOPfxoO7aI/AAAAAAAAI7k/OAhv6mjyW2U/s1440/IMG_3593.jpg)
And if it looks smaller than a vrs then it aint a real saloon in my book so its ok :grin:
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It's amazing quite how different the 135i and GTI are. I know the 125i(?) is probably actually closer to a rival to the GTI in reality but I've got to admit the 135i was the first car I'd driven in years and years that actually made me laugh as I drove it. A proper wild car and two fingers up to the PC brigade. BMW doing what they do best - putting a proper big engine in a car.
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on it. I can't believe BMW don't sell more of these things, I hardly ever see any around and always smile when I see one.
Originally I couldn't get past its boring, ugly looks, plus the Golf is the better all rounder, better fuel economy, luggage space, etc. I went back and spent some more time when VW p**sed me off and the more I did, the more it grew on me. Lovely inside, great driving position, beautiful cabin, probably best tech I've seen inside a car and feels extremely well built. Then when I drove it, it put an instant smile on my face, the thing is crackers. It is a different feel to the Golf though, more a grand tourer than a hot hatch.
If I hadn't gone back and had a closer look I'd have been over the moon with the Golf, as it is I'm quite happy I ended up changing my mind.
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If there is no Golf there is no MQB so all you audites are cheating
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Just because I was bored, I did a carwow on an RS6 - one dealer gave me 15% discount straight off the bat (£12,000) :shocked: - now if only I could find the extra £68,000 :grin:
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BMW 1 series M coupe would have been my dream. Shame it was a limited edition!
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Just because I was bored, I did a carwow on an RS6 - one dealer gave me 15% discount straight off the bat (£12,000) :shocked: - now if only I could find the extra £68,000 :grin:
Where do I sign please?!?!?!??! ^_^
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Dangerous that is !
I actually quite like the new model VW Touareg R line and a quick search on drivethedeal revealed £10k off list..
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Had a call from my local BMW dealer this morning offer " amazing deals" on the outgoing 3 series due to facelift model coming in.
Anyway popped in by, seems dealer are ordering the last few high spec cars they can get, with substantial discounts available. They had 2 x 330d M sport and 1 x 335d M sport on site, brand new.
Black car with black leather (bit safe) with M sport plus package (M brakes, xenons, HK hifi etc), Prof media nav pack, heated seats and a couple of other options, listed at just over £43k
They were basically offering to discount the car down to £36k, then BMW finance offering a £2,250 deposit contribution bringing the net price down to under £34k. Think that's a pretty good price for a high spec 6 CYL auto 4wd car with high spec, 0-60 5.3 secs and 40 MPG.
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Had a call from my local BMW dealer this morning offer " amazing deals" on the outgoing 3 series due to facelift model coming in.
Anyway popped in by, seems dealer are ordering the last few high spec cars they can get, with substantial discounts available. They had 2 x 330d M sport and 1 x 335d M sport on site, brand new.
Black car with black leather (bit safe) with M sport plus package (M brakes, xenons, HK hifi etc), Prof media nav pack, heated seats and a couple of other options, listed at just over £43k
They were basically offering to discount the car down to £36k, then BMW finance offering a £2,250 deposit contribution bringing the net price down to under £34k. Think that's a pretty good price for a high spec 6 CYL auto 4wd car with high spec, 0-60 5.3 secs and 40 MPG.
You can do better than that at Coast2Coast cars - 24% discount on the higher specced BMW 3 and 5 series like the 330d/335d, which is what you need when BMW depreciation is considerably heavier than VW/Audi/Merc.
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Im strangely starting to like the new Focus RS......
Dont get me wrong....I love the Golf and its been faultless from day one....but im unsure if I can bring myself to buy either a ED40 or R...kinda feel ive done the Golf thing now.
Ken
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At the moment I'm holding out for a Mk8 GTI. But I have a few concerns. One being how much VW will charge. I'm watching VW steadily push the brand further and further up market without justification. The Golf used to be a humble quality brand but now it's getting a bit silly. Secondly I've not seen any leaked styling cues which means I might not even like it (a la Mk6). And thirdly when is it likely to hit our shores? Can anyone hazard a guess as to an estimated arrival date?
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At the moment I'm holding out for a Mk8 GTI. But I have a few concerns. One being how much VW will charge. I'm watching VW steadily push the brand further and further up market without justification. The Golf used to be a humble quality brand but now it's getting a bit silly. Secondly I've not seen any leaked styling cues which means I might not even like it (a la Mk6). And thirdly when is it likely to hit our shores? Can anyone hazard a guess as to an estimated arrival date?
I've spent a lot of time on the Audi website and broker sites today, and noticed that currently there's just £145 between the manual 5 door R and the manual S3 Sportback (although you will beed ot spend some money on the options for the S3 which comes with leather seats, Xenons and very little else.
The MK8 is likely to be a subtle facelift in all but name, as the MK6 was following the MK5. If they make the interior any better there'll be absolutely no need for anyone to buy an Audi for anything but the badge.
The reason for my looking on the Audi website was doing the sums for getting the missus a car that I could use 1/2 the time for my commute, so it has to be something she'd like, and that I wouldn't mind driving too much, and also be economical enough to notice the difference at the pumps when we share the 2 cars between my 40 mile round commute and her 18 mile round commute.
I'd seen what seemed to be a cracking deal on a Seat Ibiza 1.2TSI I-Tech. £10k for a pre-registered delivery miles car, a £4k saving on list. There's a few things i'd like to add to the options, which cannot be done on a car already built. depreciation is a bit heavy, and i'm assuming that if they have any with metallic paint, it'll be £500 extra - likely £4500 depreciation suffered after 3 years, and expecting 44mpg from the stated 55mpg when using it on the commute.
Looked at the Polo 1.4TSI ACT also (with comfort pack, parking and metallic paint), would be expecting to lose £6500 on broker prices down to 3 year old p/x value, and get a realistic 48mpg on my commute.
Finally looked at the A1 1.6TDI Sport (with parking sensors all round, metallic paint, hill hold and convenience pack). Would lose £6k over 3 years, but gain on the fuel front. There's very little in the 3 cars overall for total 3 year running costs - the A1 costs £1500 more in depreciation but will save £1100 on the fuel vs the Seat and the A1 is free of road tax - so £310 between the 2 cars over 3 years.
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OK, not my next car as in replacement, but a second car was ordered, for the missus, and also for me to drive half the time to keep the miles on the R down to reasonable rates (with my longer commute).
No surprises, it's the Audi A1 1.6TDI Sport manual with Comfort pack, park plus and hill-hold in Floret Silver (I preferred the Misano red pearl). Won't exactly set the road alight, but the missus had admired teh A1 for a long time.
On the offchance, I popped to the Silverlink branch of Tyneside Audi (about 2 miles from home) and they had a new 1.6TDI Sport (post-facelift) in, with the new wheels. Haggled with the salesman. Let him know he had to come very close to the DTD price. I wanted him within £100 of it to keep everything local, he insisted he couldn't get within £300 of it after a fair bit of haggling.
I got ready to walk, saying I was prepared to sign there and then if he could get to £100 more. He furiously bashed some buttons on his calculator and said at last chance he could get to £125 more than DTD, but they'll have all the embellishments of the pick-up - flowers for the missus, the whole "reveal" thing going on etc. As it's the wife's first car I thought it was worth the extra £25. Early indications are that it will be here mid-October. Got home and slipped the order form in the pile of today's post and waited for her to go through it all.
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No surprises, it's the Audi A1 1.6TDI Sport manual with Comfort pack, park plus ...............and said at last chance he could get to £125 more than DTD
I know it only costs £65 but this can be activated by VCDS I'm sure.
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No surprises, it's the Audi A1 1.6TDI Sport manual with Comfort pack, park plus ...............and said at last chance he could get to £125 more than DTD
I know it only costs £65 but this can be activated by VCDS I'm sure.
Did you activate it on yours or did you find out too late too? If I can find confirmation that a post-facelift model has had hill-hold activated by VCDS then i'll get the order changed and buy something more practical like rubber mats.
Any other decent VCDS mods on the A1? Needle-sweep and drop passenger mirror on reverse seem to be the ones i've read up that seem genuinely useful.
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Believe it or not I could hardly afford the hill hold option after adding Technology Pack, Xenon Lights, heated seats, privacy glass and loads more. I was like a kid in a sweetie shop. I would have opted for the Black Edition with most of those extras included and got some money back come trade in but it wasn't available on the Sportback when I ordered :cry:
So I activated Hill Hold with VCDS. I also activated it on my daughters Polo. I'm not sure if it is just certain gradients it works or if you are meant to do something beforehand but it doesn't seem to work every time. It could just be me though. For instance if I stop on a hill and put the handbrake on then take off it generally rolls back. I've also tried pressing the brake just as I'm releasing the handbrake and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. So are you expected to keep your foot on the foot brake at all times? I've not had a chance to try and work out exactly how it works probably cos I don't drive it.
The model has had a face lift since we got ours so best check it can still be done.
I've activated a few VCDS tweaks. Needle sweep, hill hold, Audi blink (drls dim on indicating), auto folding mirrors on locking, auto coming home with fogs and DRLs and a few other things I can't remember. Mine had the dipping mirror on reverse but I'm sure that can be done as well.
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Believe it or not I could hardly afford the hill hold option after adding Technology Pack, Xenon Lights, heated seats, privacy glass and loads more. I was like a kid in a sweetie shop. I would have opted for the Black Edition with most of those extras included and got some money back come trade in but it wasn't available on the Sportback when I ordered :cry:
So I activated Hill Hold with VCDS. I also activated it on my daughters Polo. I'm not sure if it is just certain gradients it works or if you are meant to do something beforehand but it doesn't seem to work every time. It could just be me though. For instance if I stop on a hill and put the handbrake on then take off it generally rolls back. I've also tried pressing the brake just as I'm releasing the handbrake and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. So are you expected to keep your foot on the foot brake at all times? I've not had a chance to try and work out exactly how it works probably cos I don't drive it.
The model has had a face lift since we got ours so best check it can still be done.
I've activated a few VCDS tweaks. Needle sweep, hill hold, Audi blink (drls dim on indicating), auto folding mirrors on locking, auto coming home with fogs and DRLs and a few other things I can't remember. Mine had the dipping mirror on reverse but I'm sure that can be done as well.
The factory fit hill hold (maybe a VCDS tweak that people have found is set to less and something needs to be changed to alter the interval) will keep the car held for 5 seconds after the handbrake or foot brake have been let off - it won't hold it there indefinitely like the fully electronic handbrake system of the MK7 Golf will.
For a second car, I wasn't prepared to pay out for S-line or Black edition for what amounted to mainly cosmetic items (+ Xnons on the black edition) - the Sport trim had everything functional we wanted that comes as standard on any trim (multifunction steering wheel being top priority). My redundancy will have been decimated after having bought the R outright and have gone finance with the A1 purely to get the £500 deposit contribution and pay it off a few days after collection. I wanted to have a little left of my redundancy in case I jack my new job in (it's still that bad!).
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Sorry I should have mentioned about being aware of the 5 seconds but it just doesn't do it. It certainly doesn't do it just releasing the handbrake. I've also tried playing about with different pressure on the brake pedal but again I can't fathom it out.
I think you are probably right re needing some other setting changed.
I went along intent on buying the Sport rather than SlIne until the salesman showed me them side by side and the SLine won. It just looked better more aggressive / sporty in my eyes with better equipment and seats. Half leather SLine embossed, black headlining. Plus because it was dearer he could take more of a discount off and slightly better residuals it worked out not that much different in price that was until I stacked it with options :laugh:
I don't think there is that much of a difference now though between the 2 from what I've read on the A1 forum although haven't seen for myself.
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Sorry I should have mentioned about being aware of the 5 seconds but it just doesn't do it. It certainly doesn't do it just releasing the handbrake. I've also tried playing about with different pressure on the brake pedal but again I can't fathom it out.
I think you are probably right re needing some other setting changed.
I went along intent on buying the Sport rather than SlIne until the salesman showed me them side by side and the SLine won. It just looked better more aggressive / sporty in my eyes with better equipment and seats. Half leather SLine embossed, black headlining. Plus because it was dearer he could take more of a discount off and slightly better residuals it worked out not that much different in price that was until I stacked it with options :laugh:
I don't think there is that much of a difference now though between the 2 from what I've read on the A1 forum although haven't seen for myself.
Aye the S-line looked a little better, but not £2k better for me (even though we would see half of it back in residuals). 17" alloys over 16" alloys - yes they look better, but the facelifted Sport's alloys look a hell of a lot better than the old ones we saw on the Sports we saw on the used forecourt - 17" wheels cost £500 more on the options list. The leather seats look a little better, but most of the leather is on the bits you're not making direct contact with the seat and everything else seemed superficial enough for me to not want to spend the extra. If the Sline had 17" wheels and Xenons then i'd have spent the money.
The Sport doesn't look hugely aggressive, so our initial thoughts of Mythos Black were soon forgotten - black suits aggressive looking cars. We liked the Floret Silver for the contrast with the grille and associated trim. I really liked the Misano red but the missus didn't and at the end of the day it is going to be her car (even if I put more miles on it than she will), so Floret it is.
Knowing I had the R for real fun also helped in the decision - I didn't need out A1 to look or be overly sporty
Hill hold will likely work in much the same way as it did on the pre-facelift MK3 Scirocco. You put your foot on the brake, let the handbrake off and the brakes will hold for 5 seconds (2 seconds on the Scirocco). You need to have pressed the footbrake while stopped for the hold to come into play.
We were at the Audi garage again last night so the missus could see a new style A1 Sport with the new wheels. Someone was revving a new RS3, it was farting and popping away as the revs died down following a press on the throttle - did sound far more of a beast than my R does.
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If the Sline had 17" wheels and Xenons then i'd have spent the money.
MH, unless I've totally misunderstood what you are saying according to the configurator and brochure, the S-Line A1 does have 17" alloys and Xenons as standard ?
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If the Sline had 17" wheels and Xenons then i'd have spent the money.
MH, unless I've totally misunderstood what you are saying according to the configurator and brochure, the S-Line A1 does have 17" alloys and Xenons as standard ?
It has 17" alloys, but unless things have recently changed, you don't get Xenons on the S-line, it's when you go up again to the black edition.
*update* Just looked - Xenons are on the S-line now, perhaps why the S-line shot up in price after the facelift. can't be chewed to renegotiate now! :grin: Harder suspension on the S-line and perforated steering wheel that will pick up dead skin like nothing else are the 2 things that help me decide not to change the order! :laugh:
If it was the primary car then i'd make the change to have the Xenons more than anything else. Looks like i'll be adding in some Osram Nightbreaker plus when I pick the A1 up.
It's so easy to go in expecting to buy one thing and then ramping up the trims or optins until the car is costing 30% more than expected.
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You can choose what suspension you want (free) on the SLine. So its easily downgradeable . To be honest I don't find it hard at all. 1st week of ownership it felt a bit firm but doesn't feel any harder than the GTD.
The Xenons with the DRL's for me were the deal breaker. I really liked the front with the curvy DRL's but they have changed it now to along the bonnet and down. Still distinctive though. I passed an S1 today in that lovely blue colour. Plus I just think you see much better with Xenons in the dark. Halogens are like using candles now.
You are right re the leather seats only on the sides / back but come winter its not frozen and come summer you don't stick. Plus its the bolsters that would be the first to show signs of wear if it was fabric.Those crafty Audi designers thought it through :laugh:
Our A1 is 3 year old in November and not a bit of dead skin or anything in the perforations of the steering wheel and I've never cleaned it. For me its much better than the GTD. The perforations give you a much better grip than the slippery GTD wheel.
The Misano Red is lovely looking especially with privacy glass and the black roof / rails. It really stands out.
Get the calculator away and spoil your Mrs :laugh: Seriously though, I'm sure she will be happy with whatever she gets especially since it will be her first car.
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V6 Mk8 Golf would be very nice but may go down the old mans car route and get a Jaguar XE R Sport as SHMBO is looking at buying a Fiat 500 as a run about to carry the latest edition to the family...
Meet Bert !!
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^^^
Bert is very cute, love his big (comparatively) front paws.
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V6 Mk8 Golf would be very nice but may go down the old mans car route and get a Jaguar XE R Sport
Had an XE S yesterday for the day and it was agreat car, certainly as good as the 3 series, nice supercharger sound and exhaust note but has made me realise how much I'm going to miss the M4 so it's put doubt in my mind now about the R!
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V6 Mk8 Golf would be very nice but may go down the old mans car route and get a Jaguar XE R Sport
Had an XE S yesterday for the day and it was agreat car, certainly as good as the 3 series, nice supercharger sound and exhaust note but has made me realise how much I'm going to miss the M4 so it's put doubt in my mind now about the R!
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Very nice :cool:
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Did my daily commute in it and it returned 40-41 mpg which was impressive, on the way home however 19 mpg :evil:
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That Jag XE 3.0 V6 is a fabulous car, the interior is magnificant (sat in one on Saturday) - a massive step up over the Golf. And it's a big car, but not too big. 0-60 same as the R as well (4.9 secs) :drool:
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V6 Mk8 Golf would be very nice but may go down the old mans car route and get a Jaguar XE R Sport
Had an XE S yesterday for the day and it was agreat car, certainly as good as the 3 series, nice supercharger sound and exhaust note but has made me realise how much I'm going to miss the M4 so it's put doubt in my mind now about the R!
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Too many creases on the bonnet as if this feature was running out of fashion. I don't like its looks. It reminds me of a Volvo.
I am sure it is a good Indian car :evil:, but it somehow leaves me cold. Plus the Sat Nav system is still no good and way inferior to the BMW iDrive system or those in an Audi or Mercedes.
Now, the soon to be released Alfa Giulia is a real looker IMO. Our next car? Most possibly.