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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Jimble on 16 November 2013, 13:46
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So my GTI came back from the bodyshop yesterday after having a couple of paint issues sorted, the main of which was a tiny paint inclusion on the O/S A pillar, almost like someone had dipped an artist brush in it when it was wet which created a little peak? Anyways i turned up to check it over and the A pillar looked ok, however the roofline and C pillar had also been painted! :shocked: god knows why but the finish was horendous! I've subsequently started the ball rolling to reject the car. :cry: i'm waiting for a call from my dealer on monday to discuss what happens next but i don't know what car to get, or do i?? :smug:
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Sorry to hear about all the issues your having Jimble. There are certainly a few options out there just now, the five obvious probably being:-
Golf R
135i
235i
S3
GTI - manual this time :smiley:
The golf R does look lovely but is it going to have the same minor nigles as the GTI. I suppose only time will tell. Perhaps you have just been very unlucky but obviously a big let down for you was the DSG box and with a manual you may have felt differently.
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Good God!
Speechless!
I'd let the dust settle a bit James and then see what you feel like in a week or two.
At least now you know what you DON'T like in what you originally specced so you can look at other things this time round. Broaden your horizons and see if you still end up back in a VW.
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That's not good at all James. I hate having any paintwork done if it's not at my trusted bodyshop. VW's so called approved bodyshop made a right mess of my old Passat when it went in for rusty wings, but that was an old car, so I put up with their second attempt until I sold it.
If I was in your shoes, I'd get your money back, and buy something cheaper that's not encumbered with finance to ride around in over the winter. Something like a Mk5 GT TDI? Then you will have all the time you want to decide what to buy next, if anything at all. It's quite liberating having an older car and once you have detailed it so that it shines like a new one, you might decide to keep it. Or put the money into extending your house instead. I know someone that can produce the plans for you. :wink:
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If you cancel made but still like the gti then for me its got to be an R. They might even give you a deal with them supplying you with a poor car.
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Just what you wanted really wasn't it Jimble? Now you've got an excuse to get rid of the car you hate :D
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And don't forget to NOT opt for an auto..! Can you just reject it because it wasn't what it should be with issues etc and make the dealership buy you a new one? With a manual? It won't cost you a thing. Instead of the DSG you could go for more of other options. If you order now, you'll get it rather fast and some teething/niggles would be cured...
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Sounds like you've really disliked the car from day 1 and this is the opportunity you are looking for to get shot of it. Personally I think the grounds for rejection are flimsy at best so I hope for your sake that your dealer / VW UK are feeling in a generous mood!
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So my GTI came back from the bodyshop yesterday after having a couple of paint issues sorted, the main of which was a tiny paint inclusion on the O/S A pillar, almost like someone had dipped an artist brush in it when it was wet which created a little peak? Anyways i turned up to check it over and the A pillar looked ok, however the roofline and C pillar had also been painted! :shocked: god knows why but the finish was horendous! I've subsequently started the ball rolling to reject the car. :cry: i'm waiting for a call from my dealer on monday to discuss what happens next but i don't know what car to get, or do i?? :smug:
Sounds like a hailstorm damaged car that was not sold as one, and if so, those who did go through with orders in knowledge of, should be quite concerned.
Even if not, then obviously still unacceptable and would dent my confidence badly in the car, particularly as you been stating things that others are not overly experience either, sounding like the perennial Friday car.
I really like the DSG, it does not behave how you stated yours does but I am new to it and not had anything else to compare to unlike self so my thinking would be Golf R manual in Blue a car I would personally love.
But we only making comments this is going to be a personal gut decision come end of and you need more facts from dealer before finalise. Be interested in what they say and what you decide but we all wish it turns out well as all have a good idea to what a pain and disappointment it must be.
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Sounds like you've really disliked the car from day 1 and this is the opportunity you are looking for to get shot of it. Personally I think the grounds for rejection are flimsy at best so I hope for your sake that your dealer / VW UK are feeling in a generous mood!
Flimsy? They repainted way more of the car than was necessary and to an extremely poor standard! I'd already said in the other post that if it was ok then i'd hang on to it, your right in that i wasn't 100% happy with this car from day 1 but for the most part that was my fault, you make your bed you lie in it but if your 33k Golf GTI had been painted a slightly different colour and you could easily see finger prints under the laquer would you be happy? The dealership have been excellent thoughout and it won't put me off another one from them, the brand manager actually said to me that i was rejecting it before i did after he'd seen the problem, even he couldn't undersatnd why so much had been painted but agreed it was obvious once pointed out. I'm glad your happy with yours though.
So my GTI came back from the bodyshop yesterday after having a couple of paint issues sorted, the main of which was a tiny paint inclusion on the O/S A pillar, almost like someone had dipped an artist brush in it when it was wet which created a little peak? Anyways i turned up to check it over and the A pillar looked ok, however the roofline and C pillar had also been painted! :shocked: god knows why but the finish was horendous! I've subsequently started the ball rolling to reject the car. :cry: i'm waiting for a call from my dealer on monday to discuss what happens next but i don't know what car to get, or do i?? :smug:
Sounds like a hailstorm damaged car that was not sold as one, and if so, those who did go through with orders in knowledge of, should be quite concerned.
Even if not, then obviously still unacceptable and would dent my confidence badly in the car, particularly as you been stating things that others are not overly experience either, sounding like the perennial Friday car.
I really like the DSG, it does not behave how you stated yours does but I am new to it and not had anything else to compare to unlike self so my thinking would be Golf R manual in Blue a car I would personally love.
But we only making comments this is going to be a personal gut decision come end of and you need more facts from dealer before finalise. Be interested in what they say and what you decide but we all wish it turns out well as all have a good idea to what a pain and disappointment it must be.
Thanks mate, not sure if it's a hailsto car as it was built after that but could well be a friday car! Having spoken to one of the techs, he said that my issue with inconsistent pulling away after stop/start could've been that when you come to a stop sharpish the car doesn't have 1st gear ready for when you restart but if you come to a gentle stop then it's all set with 1st when your ready? I thought that sounded feasable but i haven't had the car back yet/if at all so who knows?
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Get another GTi :cool: without DSG.
Push for a 12% discount and the money saved not getting DSG either get more options or reduce monthly payments.
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Were I in VW marketing, I'd be paying close attention to this story.
There's nothing worse than seeing one of your staunchest advocates on a very public forum - ordinarily very effective as a marketing tool for VW - having the experience Jimble has had.
We have a Mk5 DSG edition 30 (cracking car) and are eyeing up the next replacement. I very rarely am one of the 'early adopters', but we'll probably replace it next year - unless I can hold out for an edition 40. With stories like Jimble's the idea of hanging on to the old girl for another 2 years suddenly sounds very appealing, especially since the DSG works so well in our car.
Anyway, I look forward to hearing some good news soon from Jimble, who in the past has been worth his weight in gold to VW marketing!
Sort him out!
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Did they not paint tgat much to blend the paint in? You cannot just paint a panel you have to blend it unto neighbouring panels.
Imho I would reject it withiut questio and ask for a healthy discount on a manual R order as compensation :wink:
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I think you have to give them 3 chances to put it right Jimble. I had to let a paintshop do an Audi 3 times before I had the right to seek a different conclusion.
Worth talking to Trading Standards, I find them very helpful.
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Were I in VW marketing, I'd be paying close attention to this story.
There's nothing worse than seeing one of your staunchest advocates on a very public forum - ordinarily very effective as a marketing tool for VW - having the experience Jimble has had.
We have a Mk5 DSG edition 30 (cracking car) and are eyeing up the next replacement. I very rarely am one of the 'early adopters', but we'll probably replace it next year - unless I can hold out for an edition 40. With stories like Jimble's the idea of hanging on to the old girl for another 2 years suddenly sounds very appealing, especially since the DSG works so well in our car.
Anyway, I look forward to hearing some good news soon from Jimble, who in the past has been worth his weight in gold to VW marketing!
Sort him out!
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I appreciate that mate thanks, as i've said a few times now, my issues with the DSG box are more than likely down to me just not getting along with it rather than it being faulty, opinions vary greatly but i just don't think it suits the GTI, give one a go mate it may well be as good as your ED30.
Did they not paint tgat much to blend the paint in? You cannot just paint a panel you have to blend it unto neighbouring panels.
Imho I would reject it withiut questio and ask for a healthy discount on a manual R order as compensation :wink:
Yeah, they would've needed to blend it in although i think if they had just painted the A pillar and blended into the roofline it would've been fine once flatted back and polished, painting a big panel like the C pillar made it a hundred times worse! The A pillar actually looks OKish but not perfect, it actually like the clear coat they've used isn't clear and has a slight creamy hue and is very textured when compared to the original paint, once i pointed out the issues to the tech and brand manager they could see it easily and had a look of disbelief on their face.
I think you have to give them 3 chances to put it right Jimble. I had to let a paintshop do an Audi 3 times before I had the right to seek a different conclusion.
Worth talking to Trading Standards, I find them very helpful.
The brand manager didn't say anything about 3 chances, just said i need to speak to my dealer on monday to discuss what happens next?
My thoughts are, if you bought a shirt, got it home and found that it had a small tear in it you'd take it back and get a replacement, not expect the shop to sew it back up?
If they'd just done the pillar and i wasn't happy then fine but needing the side of the car repainting again imo is unacceptable. The other bits and bobs were fixed perfectly, ie the boot hinge and parking sensor, the dealers replaced the seal between the front and rear door which again is perfect.
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This is meant as no disrespect Jimble but I suspect that the truth is that your not entirely unhappy that they've made an arse of the paintwork. As you said it was a regret/mistake on your side to go with the DSG and this is giving the opportunity to use your get out of jail card which you wouldn't have had in other circumstances. The end of the day though VW have made a mess and your entitled to reject the car
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This is meant as no disrespect Jimble but I suspect that the truth is that your not entirely unhappy that they've made an arse of the paintwork. As you said it was a regret/mistake on your side to go with the DSG and this is giving the opportunity to use your get out of jail card which you wouldn't have had in other circumstances. The end of the day though VW have made a mess and your entitled to reject the car
Thats a fair comment tbh mate, and your not far wrong, i will admit that i was very upset yesterday when i saw it, i was looking forward to driving it again after some of the comments on DSG, thinking i could get used to it, tbf the bodyshop has made the decision easy even though it seems like the dealership almost expected it?
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What is the role of a 'Brand manager'?
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Trading Standards will advise initially to let the bodyshop to have another crack at doing a better job on the paintwork. However, if you are not happy then you could push for it to be done at a bodyshop at your choice but that would be unlikely unless they bodge it again
From your description they have rushed the paint job and not allowed sufficient time between coats to let the paint etc cure
T-shirt and a car is not a great comparison; t-shirts are throwaway items........ :wink:
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What is the role of a 'Brand manager'?
Being honest, i've no idea! :laugh: He was who i had to deal with when i noticed the problems, i noticed the door seal and A pillar on collection day and told the dealer, the brand manager was who has dealt with me since.
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So sorry to read this Jimble.
You waited so patiently for a long time without kicking up a fuss and now this.
If you can't get on with the auto box then that's just the way it is and at least you've tried it, the manual is really nice btw.
What next? Would VW consider swapping for a manual? Or do you want the R?
Maybe you should mention your are a mod on here, may help push things along in your favour, maybe not. :undecided: Difficult one. :undecided:
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Trading Standards will advise initially to let the bodyshop to have another crack at doing a better job on the paintwork. However, if you are not happy then you could push for it to be done at a bodyshop at your choice but that would be unlikely unless they bodge it again
From your description they have rushed the paint job and not allowed sufficient time between coats to let the paint etc cure
T-shirt and a car is not a great comparison; t-shirts are throwaway items........ :wink:
I don't think i'll need to go to trading standards tbh but who knows, i disagree that a shirt isn't a fair comparison, why should i let anyone have a stab at fixing an inferior product? In hindsight i never should have signed for it, i don't think it's acceptable for it to be anything less than perfect.
So sorry to read this Jimble.
You waited so patiently for a long time without kicking up a fuss and now this.
If you can't get on with the auto box then that's just the way it is and at least you've tried it, the manual is really nice btw.
What next? Would VW consider swapping for a manual? Or do you want the R?
Maybe you should mention your are a mod on here, may help push things along in your favour, maybe not. :undecided: Difficult one. :undecided:
Got to wait and see what the dealer says on monday, i've told them i'm a mod on "an internet forum" and the car currently has the stickers in the windows soo?? :laugh:
I would probably lean towards another GTI or an R which would probably be easier tbh, i just don't know what i'll drive until it's built? I test drove an Evoque today as i was near a dealership, nice car but my god it's gutless!! 2.2 SD4 with 190 bhp but my works outlander has more go and thats a fully laden works van!!
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Trading Standards will advise initially to let the bodyshop to have another crack at doing a better job on the paintwork. However, if you are not happy then you could push for it to be done at a bodyshop at your choice but that would be unlikely unless they bodge it again
From your description they have rushed the paint job and not allowed sufficient time between coats to let the paint etc cure
T-shirt and a car is not a great comparison; t-shirts are throwaway items........ :wink:
I don't think i'll need to go to trading standards tbh but who knows, i disagree that a shirt isn't a fair comparison, why should i let anyone have a stab at fixing an inferior product? In hindsight i never should have signed for it, i don't think it's acceptable for it to be anything less than perfect.
Its what Trading Standard will initially advise (missus works for them :wink:). If they cock it up a 2nd time then by all means reject the car but the process you go through will be to give the dealership a chance to rectify it. Unless of course the Brand Manager is on your side and simply does what you want :smiley:
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Trading Standards will advise initially to let the bodyshop to have another crack at doing a better job on the paintwork. However, if you are not happy then you could push for it to be done at a bodyshop at your choice but that would be unlikely unless they bodge it again
From your description they have rushed the paint job and not allowed sufficient time between coats to let the paint etc cure
T-shirt and a car is not a great comparison; t-shirts are throwaway items........ :wink:
I don't think i'll need to go to trading standards tbh but who knows, i disagree that a shirt isn't a fair comparison, why should i let anyone have a stab at fixing an inferior product? In hindsight i never should have signed for it, i don't think it's acceptable for it to be anything less than perfect.
Its what Trading Standard will initially advise (missus works for them :wink:). If they cock it up a 2nd time then by all means reject the car but the process you go through will be to give the dealership a chance to rectify it. Unless of course the Brand Manager is on your side and simply does what you want :smiley:
I had read that the dealers should have the chance to put it right but i think 3 chances is a bit much?
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Trading Standards will advise initially to let the bodyshop to have another crack at doing a better job on the paintwork. However, if you are not happy then you could push for it to be done at a bodyshop at your choice but that would be unlikely unless they bodge it again
From your description they have rushed the paint job and not allowed sufficient time between coats to let the paint etc cure
T-shirt and a car is not a great comparison; t-shirts are throwaway items........ :wink:
I don't think i'll need to go to trading standards tbh but who knows, i disagree that a shirt isn't a fair comparison, why should i let anyone have a stab at fixing an inferior product? In hindsight i never should have signed for it, i don't think it's acceptable for it to be anything less than perfect.
Its what Trading Standard will initially advise (missus works for them :wink:). If they cock it up a 2nd time then by all means reject the car but the process you go through will be to give the dealership a chance to rectify it. Unless of course the Brand Manager is on your side and simply does what you want :smiley:
I had read that the dealers should have the chance to put it right but i think 3 chances is a bit much?
They can do yes
Just chatting to the missus about it. Being a new car it should be PERFECT and you can push for a replacement straightaway
However, If you wanted a replacement then they would offer you like for like so you would be 'stuck' with the DSG.......unless of course you can negotiate a deal :wink:
Sorry for any confusion from my earlier post but I was relying on memory rather than get the missus to talk shop on a Saturday night :grin: :laugh:
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Like for like if you are getting a replacement "off the shelf" item. As a totally new car order you can take your money and run (a bit tricky if you part exes and want your car back but they sold it in the meantime). No reason why they couldn't order you one to a new spec and shouldn't charge you extra for any pricerises that have come in meantime.
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Brand new car £33000 worth should be right unfortunately it hasn't been right forget about the dsg I think that is not the problem it's the bodywork so I think a replacement is the least vw can do
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Tbh spec for spec would be fine, like i said earlier i think over time i could possibly get used to the gearbox, i've got sooo many scenarios running through my head atm, i thought i could have had my mk6 back and ordered a new one but unfortunately for me they have sold it. :cry:
I dunno......
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Get them to order a replacement minus DSG, but let you use your current car until it arrives :cool:
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Really, really sorry to hear your woes Jimble. It's stared with DSG and now this re-spray sounds utter sh!te. I'd be rejecting if I had half a chance.
How loyal are your to brand VW? Would you switch to an M135i or something similar? The reason I ask is because if you order an R, and you get it, what if these same feelings surface again? Heck you'll be one unhappy bunny... and a skint one too.
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Tbh spec for spec would be fine, like i said earlier i think over time i could possibly get used to the gearbox, i've got sooo many scenarios running through my head atm, i thought i could have had my mk6 back and ordered a new one but unfortunately for me they have sold it. :cry:
I dunno......
its easy for me to say don't get stressed about it sort it out next week I had a mark 6 3 door before this one and that had been painted and it pissed me of every time I looked at it :sad:
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I saw you test drove a Evoque.
There is a Evoque R coming out soon, not sure on HP but it's got a supercharged v6 engine. Bet it will be pricey though! My dealer was telling me all about when picking up the new work vehicle.
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I dunno......
its easy for me to say don't get stressed about it sort it out next week I had a mark 6 3 door before this one and that had been painted and it pissed me of every time I looked at it :sad:
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Reject it. That car is tainted in your mind now. It took forever to arrive and it's been messed about with. Liek an earlier poster, I wonder whether you've been given a hailstorm-repaired car.
My MK5 Golf 170TDI PD got clattered by a bus when it was 2 weeks old. Due to the piss poor repair job and continual remedial work (rear wheel arch of the new rear quarter panel rusted up every 3 months), I hated that car from when I finally got it back 7 weeks later to when I got shot of it via part ex 18 months later. You don't want to be resenting a £30k purchase for the whole time you own it. Get shot and get another in the spec you really want (manual).
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Jim
After reading your posts about you car, I can understand how this is the last straw.
Rhyso is right about the car being rejected so keep on the right side of your Brand Manager and hopefully, it all work out OK.
PS don't go for the Evoque - 2 friends have one and wish they didn't. :sad:
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Hey Jimble, I don't blame you for rejecting the car after the trouble with the paint and the DSG box. What I would do if in your shoes now is order a Golf R manual mate because lets be honest the GTI looks pretty old hat compared to the R and its not much more expensive.
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Hey Jimble, I don't blame you for rejecting the car after the trouble with the paint and the DSG box. What I would do if in your shoes now is order a Golf R manual mate because lets be honest the GTI looks pretty old hat compared to the R and its not much more expensive.
And the winner of most ridiculous post of the week goes to ..... :whistle:
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Why so? I don't mean any offence to GTI owners but I think an extra 80bhp, 4wd and probably similar fuel consumption in the real world for an extra £4k is worth it.
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Why so? I don't mean any offence to GTI owners but I think an extra 80bhp, 4wd and probably similar fuel consumption in the real world for an extra £4k is worth it.
It's value for money but an extra £4k is hardly peanuts now is it? The GTI has been on dealer forecourts less than 6 months and there is still very few on the roads. Just because the R has come along it hardly makes the car "old hat".
Sorry you might not have intended any offence but that's how it sounded to me
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Hilarious!
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Sorry buddy, of course the GTI is a great car and if I could justify the fuel costs that's what I would have gone for. Its just when he was talking about an evoque I assumed he had money for an R. I take back my old hat comment as that was stupid.
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Sorry buddy, of course the GTI is a great car and if I could justify the fuel costs that's what I would have gone for. Its just when he was talking about an evoque I assumed he had money for an R. I take back my old hat comment as that was stupid.
No need for an apology pal :smiley:. I'm sure Jimble could probably afford an R given that he added every option known to man onto his GTI :grin: :grin:
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Just fyi, yes i can afford an R as it's a very similar price to my GTI with +- a few options, the Evoque on the other hand, once i've added a few options to a 4wd manual pure tech it gets a bit daft! I test drove a 2.2SD4 Dynamic which was a very nice place to sit and very nice to look at but had no guts to go with it's appearance imo, i know it's a different beast to the Golf but since i'll never take it off road then all the terrain response stuff would be wasted. Anyway it all depends what the dealer says tommorrow?? :undecided:
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I will probably get flamed for this - but the Evoque to me has a more 'feminine' look about it (in contrast to say the Sport) - all the ones I have seen (and the only one I have been in) were driven by women. The Golf R is, in contrast, much more masculine in its looks and persona - in my opinion of course!
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A manual Evoque??? No No No No No.
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Get a manual GTi performance pack with 19" Santiago's :smiley: :evil:
It's the best all-round Golf.
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Get a manual GTi performance pack with 19" Santiago's :smiley: :evil:
It's the best all-round Golf.
Although according to the GTI PP road test in Decembers VW Driver, the 19's are best left alone and the money spent on DCC instead.
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I will probably get flamed for this - but the Evoque to me has a more 'feminine' look about it (in contrast to say the Sport) - all the ones I have seen (and the only one I have been in) were driven by women. The Golf R is, in contrast, much more masculine in its looks and persona - in my opinion of course!
I agree 100% with this - every person I know that has an Evoque is a girl; everyone I know who has a RR is a bloke. They look very girlie IMO (although I have driven one and they are lovely motors, but not a patch on a proper RR).
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I will probably get flamed for this - but the Evoque to me has a more 'feminine' look about it (in contrast to say the Sport) - all the ones I have seen (and the only one I have been in) were driven by women. The Golf R is, in contrast, much more masculine in its looks and persona - in my opinion of course!
I agree 100% with this - every person I know that has an Evoque is a girl; everyone I know who has a RR is a bloke. They look very girlie IMO (although I have driven one and they are lovely motors, but not a patch on a proper RR).
In the way that TT's are now such a girly car. These days, It's rare to see a guy behind the wheel of one. Must be why many ex TT boys are moving into gti's/R's :grin:
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I will probably get flamed for this - but the Evoque to me has a more 'feminine' look about it (in contrast to say the Sport) - all the ones I have seen (and the only one I have been in) were driven by women. The Golf R is, in contrast, much more masculine in its looks and persona - in my opinion of course!
I agree 100% with this - every person I know that has an Evoque is a girl; everyone I know who has a RR is a bloke. They look very girlie IMO (although I have driven one and they are lovely motors, but not a patch on a proper RR).
In the way that TT's are now such a girly car. These days, It's rare to see a guy behind the wheel of one. Must be why many ex TT boys are moving into gti's/R's :grin:
Just a stop gap until the mk3 comes out pal. :grin:. In all seriousness the GTI is a cracking car and it's got the current TT beaten in all areas except for one and that's looks. The TT is still one of the nicest looking cars out of any on the road IMO.
You won't find many TTS or RS owners swapping for a GTI/R
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So my GTI came back from the bodyshop yesterday after having a couple of paint issues sorted, the main of which was a tiny paint inclusion on the O/S A pillar, almost like someone had dipped an artist brush in it when it was wet which created a little peak? Anyways i turned up to check it over and the A pillar looked ok, however the roofline and C pillar had also been painted! :shocked: god knows why but the finish was horendous! I've subsequently started the ball rolling to reject the car. :cry: i'm waiting for a call from my dealer on monday to discuss what happens next but i don't know what car to get, or do i?? :smug:
M135i, come over and drive ours :wink:
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The MK I TT was a real hairdressers car, much like the Beetle is – very much friendy curves looking. Much prefer the MK2, it looks a bit more aggressive (not as aggressive as the Scirocco), hopefully the MK3 will look meaner still – lasses seem to steer clear of aggressive looking cars.
The Evoke is definitely a lass’ car. Coupe’d-up range rover? No thanks. That makes as much sense as having an Audi TT+ people carrier.
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Get a manual GTi performance pack with 19" Santiago's :smiley: :evil:
It's the best all-round Golf.
Although according to the GTI PP road test in Decembers VW Driver, the 19's are best left alone and the money spent on DCC instead.
Order both :cool:
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OK so spoke to the dealer yesterday and they've said they are happy for me to order a new car, they're going to decide whether they let me use the GTI until the new car arrives or if i'll just use their courtesy cars, i'm fine either way tbh, the way in which the situation has been handled up to now has been very good and i've got zero complaints about the dealership themselves as it could easily of been handled very differently.
Anyways, the wife and i have decided to go for an R, surprise surprise! After a few calculations it's not going to cost much more after a few spec tweeks, i'm really struggling to decide between the sunroof or 19" Pretorias? I know they can be specced together but i'm not willing to spend that much, i can't find any pictures of the standard 18" wheels and if they'll look lost or not?
I appreciate the comments so far as always. :cool:
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Great news mate :smiley:
I would go for the 19" Pretorias alloys over the sunroof, they look way better than the standard 18" poo ones.
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glad it has worked out for you Jimble on the dealer front
i'd take the 19" Pretorias over the sunroof on the R
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Great result :smiley:
Aren't these the standard wheels? I think these look great personally...
(http://fastestlaps.com/photos/vw_golf_r_mk7.jpg)
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Got to be wheels instead of sunroof.What colour you having?
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Great news with getting it sorted, go for the 19"s over the sunroof.
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I'd spec wheels before sunroof, although I didn't spec either on my GTI!
Realy glad it's worked out well for you - at least some dealers take customer satisfaction seriously.
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R-esult! :smiley:
I would definitely go for the 19" Pretoria's.
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Great result :smiley:
Aren't these the standard wheels? I think these look great personally...
(http://fastestlaps.com/photos/vw_golf_r_mk7.jpg)
they are the 19" version which we don't get in the UK
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Ahhh... I just looked at the Irish configurator and you are right. There's an 18" option (standard), but we do get the 19" (Cadiz) option for €1140. The other 19" option (Pretoria) are slightly more expensive - €1268.
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if you're choosing on looks alone,then buy the wheels you like the best...
If performance and/or comfort is/are a consideration then I would research the weight of each wheel/tyre combination and go with the the lightest choice... The bigger wheel/tyre combination is not always heavier...
BTW, the extra width comments are valid only if you assume perfect suspension, on perfect roads. In reality, all suspension systems exhibit geometry changes on compression and rebound... depending on how good the suspension design and construction is you may not be able to make use of the extra width...
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Well the bullet has been bitten!! :shocked:
Spec as follows:
Golf R 5dr Manual,
DCC,
19" Pretoria wheels,
Lapiz Blue,
Nav Pro,
Rear Camera.
And now we wait........ :grin:
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Wooohoooo :laugh:, it should be here within 6 months I reckon :cool:
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Well the bullet has been bitten!! :shocked:
Spec as follows:
Golf R 5dr Manual,
DCC,
19" Pretoria wheels,
Lapiz Blue,
Nav Pro,
Rear Camera.
And now we wait........ :grin:
Very nice spec Jimble :cool:
Did you not spec the DSG (comes highly recommended!) :grin: :whistle:
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Well the bullet has been bitten!! :shocked:
Spec as follows:
Golf R 5dr Manual,
DCC,
19" Pretoria wheels,
Lapiz Blue,
Nav Pro,
Rear Camera.
And now we wait........ :grin:
NICE! Love the R Lapiz Blue. Very happy for you Jimble. How long is the wait gonna be? You been given an ETA?
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Week before the MK8 arrives :whistle:
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Well the bullet has been bitten!! :shocked:
Spec as follows:
Golf R 5dr Manual,
DCC,
19" Pretoria wheels,
Lapiz Blue,
Nav Pro,
Rear Camera.
And now we wait........ :grin:
NICE! Love the R Lapiz Blue. Very happy for you Jimble. How long is the wait gonna be? You been given an ETA?
No ETA yet, only ordered this morning but i'm hoping for April really, if not before.
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/image_zps4dd09724.jpg)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/image_zpscee4670c.jpg)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/image_zps7d45cffe.jpg)
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Seeing those pictures makes me want to go out in my R32 for a nice blast :)
One of the main reasons I didnt go for a Golf R is because I have a R32 :laugh:
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That's a right result. Congrats on the order, looks fantastic
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All good in the end James, especially as you'll get a car that is not really yours to drive the wheels off through all the shity winter weather. :evil:
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Pleased for you Jimble, great spec. All that gti hassle will be forgotten when you're sitting in the stunning R
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Nice choice Jimble and the exact spec I would have gone for. :cool:
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Well the bullet has been bitten!! :shocked:
Spec as follows:
Golf R 5dr Manual,
DCC,
19" Pretoria wheels,
Lapiz Blue,
Nav Pro,
Rear Camera.
And now we wait........ :grin:
Rear camera?! You like a wait don't you! :grin:
Great choice btw, thar looks immense!!
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Well the bullet has been bitten!! :shocked:
Spec as follows:
Golf R 5dr Manual,
DCC,
19" Pretoria wheels,
Lapiz Blue,
Nav Pro,
Rear Camera.
And now we wait........ :grin:
Congrats Jimble! Nice one! Did you lose much on your GTi and/or manage to get a decent deal/discount on the R to compensate for all the hassle?
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Didn't lose anything on the GTI, got to pay a little bit on top due to the spec of the R but i'm fine with it tbh, just hope it's ok this time cos if not i think i might be done with VW. :-\
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Didn't lose anything on the GTI, got to pay a little bit on top due to the spec of the R but i'm fine with it tbh, just hope it's ok this time cos if not i think i might be done with VW. :-\
Don't worry mate, it'll be fine. I think Golf R models may be subjected to extra QC. :smiley:
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Didn't lose anything on the GTI, got to pay a little bit on top due to the spec of the R but i'm fine with it tbh, just hope it's ok this time cos if not i think i might be done with VW. :-\
Fair - it'll be epic!! :-)
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Great looking car, I hope it makes up for all the hassles.
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Sounds a fair result and I like the choice of next car, perfect combo.
Shame about the crap you had to go through but it sounds like it was a blessing in disguise.
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Happy days Jimble!
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Didn't lose anything on the GTI, got to pay a little bit on top due to the spec of the R but i'm fine with it tbh, just hope it's ok this time cos if not i think i might be done with VW. :-\
I just hope they have sorted all the teething problems out with the mk7 by the time they build your new one.
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Didn't lose anything on the GTI, got to pay a little bit on top due to the spec of the R but i'm fine with it tbh, just hope it's ok this time cos if not i think i might be done with VW. :-\
I just hope they have sorted all the teething problems out with the mk7 by the time they build your new one.
That'd be nice! :D
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How did you make that R banner Jimble - its very impressive?
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How did you make that R banner Jimble - its very impressive?
Thanks mate, if you click on it it'll take you to the website to make one, i just used a picture i downloaded from the R visualizer website, but you can use any picture you like, just don't make it tooo big! :afro:
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Phah...........not jealous in the slightest......(hope your wheels fall off)
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......only kidding, great choice Jimble and glad you have a solution that's worked out well. Still bloody jealous though. Can I swap with your headlights when it arrives...pretty please............ :grin: :grin: :grin:
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What are you going to drive around in until it arrives?
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Only thing im jealous of is the w headlight lights. They look awesome!
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What are you going to drive around in until it arrives?
Hopefully the GTi as I suggested earlier ;)
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What are you going to drive around in until it arrives?
Hopefully the GTi as I suggested earlier ;)
I don't think so unfortunately, they're going to sell it on as soon as i've put my private reg back on retention and signed it over, tbh i'm not too fussy as long as it's decent and safe, they're trying to decide if they want me to insure their car or whether i'll just use their insurance as a courtesy car? I'm currently driving a 2ltr tdi bluemotion SE and tbh it's great for what it is and i wouldn't mind hanging on to it, although i think they might want me to keep swapping to keep the mileage down.
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Sounds like that's one of those very rare good dealers Jimble. I'd slap a preservation order on them in case someone wants to change them !
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Sounds like that's one of those very rare good dealers Jimble. I'd slap a preservation order on them in case someone wants to change them !
They are good tbh, the service department as well, it's only a smallish dealership but you get a more personal feeling there than in bigger places, it's one of the main reasons i'm sticking with VW as this whole situation could have been much worse.
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My dealership is the same, I only trust one mechanic with my Golf R32 ;)
Bluemotion's rock, my Polo is a cheap car to run, service etc.
Done 52k miles, only paid £279.00 in servicing, first set of front tyres @ 52k miles @ £136 fitted. No road tax and get 70-75mpg.
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Can you let us know the reg of your rejected car? I'm sure you wouldn't want any members here to think they were doing well by jumping the queue and buying it.
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Can you let us know the reg of your rejected car? I'm sure you wouldn't want any members here to think they were doing well by jumping the queue and buying it.
Will do mate, posted it off yesterday so fingers crossed it'll be back in a couple of weeks.
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Jimble it does have ADC as standard, we'll see insurance group wise i'm more interested how it compares to my Mk6
Nice to hear some positive dealer news, the one i use is great and why i come back time and time again, yes i may have saved some extra pennies but then i factor in hassle
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Not 100% sure yet mate, i've seen videos and pictures with the distance button on the steering wheel and the R line cars have the same grill as the R and have the sensor so the parts are fabricated, can't see why they wouldn't tbh? I got a quote for a mk6 R the other day and it was £50 cheaper than i paid for my mk7 GTI! :shocked:
Hopefully it won't be too bad though.
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Only just catching up. That is a great result, and deserved it has to be said :smiley:
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Jimble it does have ADC as standard, we'll see insurance group wise i'm more interested how it compares to my Mk6
Nice to hear some positive dealer news, the one i use is great and why i come back time and time again, yes i may have saved some extra pennies but then i factor in hassle
Not 100% sure yet mate, i've seen videos and pictures with the distance button on the steering wheel and the R line cars have the same grill as the R and have the sensor so the parts are fabricated, can't see why they wouldn't tbh? I got a quote for a mk6 R the other day and it was £50 cheaper than i paid for my mk7 GTI! :o
Hopefully it won't be too bad though.
Found the pics i was on about:
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/b3798fd82f14eb87eb08afab3e0585fc_zps9286052d.jpg)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/0f2dafbdc7c61e7add8e8385d551d029_zpsffed7391.jpg)
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Jimble it does have ADC as standard, we'll see insurance group wise i'm more interested how it compares to my Mk6
Nice to hear some positive dealer news, the one i use is great and why i come back time and time again, yes i may have saved some extra pennies but then i factor in hassle
Not 100% sure yet mate, i've seen videos and pictures with the distance button on the steering wheel and the R line cars have the same grill as the R and have the sensor so the parts are fabricated, can't see why they wouldn't tbh? I got a quote for a mk6 R the other day and it was £50 cheaper than i paid for my mk7 GTI! :o
Hopefully it won't be too bad though.
Found the pics i was on about:
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/b3798fd82f14eb87eb08afab3e0585fc_zps9286052d.jpg)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/0f2dafbdc7c61e7add8e8385d551d029_zpsffed7391.jpg)
those roof bars look terrible :shocked:
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It is an estate! :grin:
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/image_zpsaacce3e6.jpg)
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It is an estate! :grin:
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/image_zpsaacce3e6.jpg)
should have still been black :laugh:
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The R Line is not the same as the R. The R line is a cosmetic variation - like High Line or Comfort Line. Audi do the same. It is confusing!
Swiss (in German) brochure for R-Line: http://imagepool.spruenglidruck.ch/pageflip/vw_pw_flyer/d/d_golf_rline_design/index.html#1
Cost from CHF31'450.00/ £20,000
and Golf R - starts at CHF 48'840.00 / £31,000...
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I don't know but looking at those pictures the interior is like the Golf R, the special blue paint looks like the Golf R, the body kit is almost the same too... its a little too much part sharing for my liking...... where is the unique and exclusive items for the Golf R? :huh:
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I don't know but looking at those pictures the interior is like the Golf R, the special blue paint looks like the Golf R, the body kit is almost the same too... its a little too much part sharing for my liking...... where is the unique and exclusive items for the Golf R? :huh:
The interior pic is a Golf R, i posted the pics to illustrate the likelyhood that the R will have ADC, the pic of the R line estate has the same front bumper as the R.
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I don't know but looking at those pictures the interior is like the Golf R, the special blue paint looks like the Golf R, the body kit is almost the same too... its a little too much part sharing for my liking...... where is the unique and exclusive items for the Golf R? :huh:
The interior pic is a Golf R, i posted the pics to illustrate the likelyhood that the R will have ADC, the pic of the R line estate has the same front bumper as the R.
Phew.... thats better :grin: :evil:
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The front bumper on the R is not the same as the 100% R- line, not withstanding fogs etc doesn't have the side vents
Always a bit of parts bin special on the R, bluemotion skirts on Mk6 and the jetta esqe front on the mk5
I've resigned myself that my R will not be as fast as a MK5 R as I am reliably informed is the fastest car ever made, admittedly that was from owners and the ones I've driven must have been broken
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The front bumper on the R is not the same as the 100% R- line, not withstanding fogs etc doesn't have the side vents
Always a bit of parts bin special on the R, bluemotion skirts on Mk6 and the jetta esqe front on the mk5
I've resigned myself that my R will not be as fast as a MK5 R as I am reliably informed is the fastest car ever made, admittedly that was from owners and the ones I've driven must have been broken
Lol! I thought the Honda Civic type R was the quickest car ever?? ;D
Agreed on the bumper, the grill is the same though so should go in the R?
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I may have a pic of a Rline from Frankfurt, given price list says in addition to GTI I'm expecting the ACC but who really knows lol
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Just spent the time and read through this so a little slow on commenting.
As others have said, sorry the GTI didn't work out, but it's for the best with the R.
It just makes me worry about buying a demo, and what they've done to it which I won't know about. I'll have to inspect every panel with a fine tooth comb.
And I think that R-Line estate looks the sh!t. Sadly, they've forgotten to add fog lights on until the last minute and stuck some horrible things on.
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Just spent the time and read through this so a little slow on commenting.
As others have said, sorry the GTI didn't work out, but it's for the best with the R.
It just makes me worry about buying a demo, and what they've done to it which I won't know about. I'll have to inspect every panel with a fine tooth comb.
And I think that R-Line estate looks the sh!t. Sadly, they've forgotten to add fog lights on until the last minute and stuck some horrible things on.
From my very recent experience, it's not just the demos that you need to watch out for!! :sick:
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From my very recent experience, it's not just the demos that you need to watch out for!! :sick:
Have they just stuck your old GTI up for sale? Some poor sod is going to end up getting that. Sad really, as they probably will notice too far down the line.
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The original MK4 Golf R32 was the most raw and special feeling Racing Golf in my eyes ...... :evil:
Bespoke and over-engineered parts for the original, thats what I miss about every R32/R Golf after that..... none of them feel as unique compared to their GTi counterparts.
But this is the way Volkswagen had to go from a marketing and profit making prespective and I totally understand that.
The original R32 had pretty expensive parts and some were even bespoke just for that car.
Steering wheel
Door sills
Handbrake, Gear stick and Pedals
Koenig bucket seats
Mats
Seabring Exhaust System
High performance floating brake disc system with blue callipers
H&R springs
Blistein shocks
18" Alloy wheels
Deep Blue paint
Right back on topic after my trip down R32 memory lane...... the new Golf R is going to be a very awesome car point to point and if it wasnt for the fact I own a R32 too and that I do high mileage... I may have opted for a Golf R too.
You guys are very lucky and will love them every bit as much as I love my R32 :laugh:
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From my very recent experience, it's not just the demos that you need to watch out for!! :sick:
Have they just stuck your old GTI up for sale? Some poor sod is going to end up getting that. Sad really, as they probably will notice too far down the line.
Not yet as it's still in my name until my private reg is back on retention, i think they're sending it back to the bodyshop to improve the poor original job before selling it on so i would hope it'll look a bit better before it's sold,
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At the risk of flogging a dead horse, adaptive cruise control is an option on the irish configurator so it stands a chance it's standard on the R in the UK as it's an option on the GTI in Ireland as wel.
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/1ddabc6cd0fe22fcc294ffc9ee9f421a_zps26c6781d.jpg)
I can't believe how much my opinion on it has changed! It's an excellent system and so intuitive, just a shame the sensor is so prominent.
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Just read all this Jimble, what a roller coaster experience.
Pleased you have got an outcome you are happy with :cool:
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Thanks mate. :)