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Title: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: matchboy on 08 November 2013, 11:02
Don't know if there's a topic all ready for w7nkers that dent people's cars, but I have to have a rant.  Dropping my little girl off at school today, some dumb f7cking b!tch lets her 5 year old open the car door and smashes into my car - dent over an inch long in the passenger side panel (not the door).  I am f7cking livid.

Took all my restraint to not f and blind at her in the playground with all the mums and kids there.  Told her she was paying for it and to expect a bill.  Starts giving me a sob story about how she has 3 kids and can't afford it, and that it was an accident.  DON'T LET YOUR 5 YEAR OLD OPEN A CAR DOOR THEN YOU INCONSIDERATE (UNT!

My question to the forum is this therefore:  I'm off to get a quote for a repair at lunch, do I just pay for it myself and have a heart as she may well not be able to afford it - or, do I make her pay for it as its her own fault for letting her kid open the car door by herself and why should I have to shell out, especially just before Christmas?  I do not let my 5 year old open car doors, she waits for me to do it.  And if I had dented someone else's car I would be paying for the damage.

To say I am fuming is an understatement.  And the paintwork is f7cked too.  :angry:

Thanks for listening  :smiley:
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: sam67GTD on 08 November 2013, 11:12
Show no mercy, get her to pay for it. Maybe when she gets the bill something will click in her head not to allow her kid to open the door herself.

I really feel for you, I'd be livid too, especially so on a nice new GTI  :angry:
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 November 2013, 11:13
She has insurance (hopefully). Either her insurance pays and it costs her the excess (and maybe next year her premiums go up), or she bites the bullet and covers it herself to avoid the excess and possible premium rise. This happened because she couldn’t be arsed to get out of the car and open the car door for her kid.

There’s one thing having a heart, there’s another being a mug. If it needs a repair (and it does), someone has to pay for it – why should it be you?

If I was driving an auld banger and it was another dent to go with the other 10, then I would probably let it go because if I’d done it, I wouldn’t be arsed to get a repair done that I was paying for.

If she has to pay for it she’ll be far more careful next time and make sure her kid doesn’t just swing the door open and jump out of the car. You could be saving countless other potential victims by making her pay.

Did she even acknowledge the incident until you approached her? Would she have left a note on your car if you weren’t in it at the time? If you can confidently say no then there isn’t the slight bit of guilt I’d be feeling in handing her the bill.

At the end of the day it was an accident and insurance covers her in the event of an accident of her causing.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: matchboy on 08 November 2013, 11:19
I'm pretty sure if I wasn't just about to get out of my car ie. I was there, she wouldn't have said f7ck all.  Plus I may not have noticed it for weeks as I don't go that side of the car.

She did acknowledge it, and was apologetic - but that doesn't pay for the f7cking damage.  What got me is that she didn't get the kid to apologise - if that was my mum she would have made me say sorry.  I also would have made my little girl say sorry.  I also think that the only reason she was saying sorry was because I said she had to pay for it - that's what prompted her.  She started off by saying that her kid was excited to see mine so opened the door like that - don't even bother trying to shift the blame b!tch - you shouldn't be letting a 5 year old open a car door PERIOD.

I'll see how much its going to cost and then we'll see who's going to pay.  I took a pic of her number plate and just checked that its an 11 plate - you can't be that skint then can you b!tch?!
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: Ginagee on 08 November 2013, 11:20
Arrrgghh, just reading this I'm feeling angry. My children are NOT allowed to open the doors themselves… it's the LAW in my car. It is my utter pet hate when someone opens their door and bangs it into the car next to it, and/or lets it just rest on it while they get their lazy ars*s out. Arrrgghhhh.
My advice, if it's worth anything… Get the quote, then talk to her & show her the estimate. She says she's not got much money… but I do think she needs to be more responsible, and learn that she could control her children. I would ask her to make a sensible contribution… not because it's revenge, but just so she has an understanding!!!!
People who aren't into cars, just see them as something to get them from A to B. They have no pride about the state of their car. BUT they should not be so ignorant about how other people feel. So ask her to contribute what she can afford, and what she & you feel is fair. I'm really feeling for you.
I once had a kid ride a bike into my new pride and joy, years & years ago now. I was young, and on my own, (on a dead rough estate - didn't fancy taking the kid to his home to argue with his parents!) didn't really know what to do. Cost a fortune to get it fixed. Still feel pi55ed when I think about it now!!!!!
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: GTI_Redpath on 08 November 2013, 11:23
depends what car she was in, if the car was expensive, shes lying and she can afford it, if she was in a 500 quid corsa and she was genuinly repentant, id personally be a bit more lenient. maybe im just being soft
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: matchboy on 08 November 2013, 11:29
Arrrgghh, just reading this I'm feeling angry. My children are NOT allowed to open the doors themselves… it's the LAW in my car. It is my utter pet hate when someone opens their door and bangs it into the car next to it, and/or lets it just rest on it while they get their lazy ars*s out. Arrrgghhhh.
My advice, if it's worth anything… Get the quote, then talk to her & show her the estimate. She says she's not got much money… but I do think she needs to be more responsible, and learn that she could control her children. I would ask her to make a sensible contribution… not because it's revenge, but just so she has an understanding!!!!
People who aren't into cars, just see them as something to get them from A to B. They have no pride about the state of their car. BUT they should not be so ignorant about how other people feel. So ask her to contribute what she can afford, and what she & you feel is fair. I'm really feeling for you.
I once had a kid ride a bike into my new pride and joy, years & years ago now. I was young, and on my own, (on a dead rough estate - didn't fancy taking the kid to his home to argue with his parents!) didn't really know what to do. Cost a fortune to get it fixed. Still feel pi55ed when I think about it now!!!!!

Maybe this is the way forward.  Just some form of contribution.  What really p!ssed me off was the fact that just cause I'm driving a new car she assumed that I have the money to pay for it!  F7ck off!

She was driving an 11 plate Vauxhall mpv - I don't know the name of it as its a heap.  But I would imagine it was still a £15k car originally.

Its wound me up today, and it winds me up reading about other people's stories.  That's the trouble with people today - they don't give a f7ck about other people nor other people's stuff.  :angry:
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: virginVWman on 08 November 2013, 11:37
Easiest way to look at it is if the shoe was on the other foot and your car door had flung open....you honestly expect the other individual to understand or let alone give a sh!t that you can't afford it? Not a chance. Her mistake. Her fault. Therefore she pays. End of in my opinion
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: Gnasher on 08 November 2013, 11:46
Make her pay (preferably through her insurance) - if it's the rear quarter thats damaged it'll cost a lot to fix - which she says she can't afford!
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: matchboy on 08 November 2013, 11:54
It is the rear quarter, yes.  So I'm expecting it to cost.

And if the shoe was on the other foot I would have paid for sure, as it would have been my fault for letting my child to open the door on her own.

Getting a quote in a bit - let's see how much it is before I decide.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 November 2013, 11:59
I’m sure you are talking upwards of £500 if it is anything more than a smart repair, requiring spraying and blending in etc. By the time you talk about “contributions” on that, like half, you are probably into what her excess will be anyway – make her insurance pay and any premium increases are on her head! She’s not driving in a cheap banger and she only said sorry when she realised that there’s money involved (either yours or hers). If she’s in an 11 plate car and she hasn’t literally just got it 2nd hand then it’ll have cost her a decent lump of cash.

If it’s £250 make her pay out of her own pocket anyway and she can be thankful you didn’t go through her insurance.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: mk7gti on 08 November 2013, 12:08
monkeyhanger im not sure if you remeber my posts from a few weeks back. This happend to me when my car was two days old. First question are you missing paint at the point of impact?

My thread is here http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=259419.25 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=259419.25)
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: Valenni on 08 November 2013, 12:20
Don't know if there's a topic all ready for w7nkers that dent people's cars, but I have to have a rant.  Dropping my little girl off at school today, some dumb f7cking b!tch lets her 5 year old open the car door and smashes into my car - dent over an inch long in the passenger side panel (not the door).  I am f7cking livid.

Took all my restraint to not f and blind at her in the playground with all the mums and kids there.  Told her she was paying for it and to expect a bill.  Starts giving me a sob story about how she has 3 kids and can't afford it, and that it was an accident.  DON'T LET YOUR 5 YEAR OLD OPEN A CAR DOOR THEN YOU INCONSIDERATE (UNT!

My question to the forum is this therefore:  I'm off to get a quote for a repair at lunch, do I just pay for it myself and have a heart as she may well not be able to afford it - or, do I make her pay for it as its her own fault for letting her kid open the car door by herself and why should I have to shell out, especially just before Christmas?  I do not let my 5 year old open car doors, she waits for me to do it.  And if I had dented someone else's car I would be paying for the damage.

To say I am fuming is an understatement.  And the paintwork is f7cked too.  :angry:

Thanks for listening  :smiley:

I have a 4 year old who is TRAINED not to open the door himself. I also have a simple thing called a CHILD LOCK. Why was she not using it? (Or was she driving a 3 door)?

Still, don't listen to her sh1t, get her insurance, take photos and get a new door!

Also, I am paranoid when parking this car. Even though I park in the furthest corners, people seem to park next to in in their mini MPV's and Hyundai Accents!!!
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: p3asa on 08 November 2013, 12:27
She's driving an 11 plate but she never told you her husband is driving a top of the range Merc!!

The lack of consideration from certain car users is atrocious and its why I never park in a side to side car park ever.
Matchboy I feel for you as there is nothing worse than your pride and joy getting damaged.
You seem to be in a quandary about whether to make her pay or not. I think I'd be in the exact same situation, part of my anger would want her to pay every last penny but the other part would actually feel sorry for her.
For me, if she got the message about respecting others cars then I wouldn't bother pursuing it but I think the only way she is going to get that message is by being out of pocket. Unfortunately though there are loads and loads like her.

I used to see this kind of thing in my kids school car park all the time. So what I would do was only stop in between 2 parked cars that were empty to drop my kids off and if there were none I would drive back out and park further down the road and just walk the kids over. I know its no consolation to yourself but maybe something to think about in the future.

Hope you get it all sorted to your satisfaction.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: CraigW on 08 November 2013, 13:24
Sorry to hear this Mark. There is nothing more infuriating. The only good thing is that you were there to witness it and you got her details.

As MH says it's likely to be a fairly expensive repair particularly if they are going to have to respray. In that case, she is going to have to pay it through her insurance. She should have had the childlock on in the first place.   
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: mistertee on 08 November 2013, 13:29
It's all about responsibillity.  Your car is damaged.  You didn't do it. It needs fixing.  You shouldn't pay for it, the person who did it should, that 5 year old child can't so their parents should.

If they can't afford it, why do you think you can?
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: hastd2 on 08 November 2013, 13:50
I feel for you bud, but as I see it if you let her off with it, who's saying she wont do it again to some poor Gti/Gtd....
 
MAKE HER PAY!!!!!!.... :evil: :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: Ginagee on 08 November 2013, 14:00
Depends on how much the repair is gonna be, whether it's from her pocket or her insurance. I've changed my view on 'just a contribution' seeing as she's driving an 11 plate, she can afford it. :evil:
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 November 2013, 14:03
Depends on how much the repair is gonna be, whether it's from her pocket or her insurance. I've changed my view on 'just a contribution' seeing as she's driving an 11 plate, she can afford it. :evil:

Yep! If you can’t afford the excess on your insurance then you shouldn’t be on the road. Any other price paid over and above excess to avoid loss of NCD etc is her own decision.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: matchboy on 08 November 2013, 14:11
Thanks chaps.  So my man can do it for £250 mates rates.  Which isn't too bad.  But it also means I'm going to get her to pay for at least half of it.  Pay the piper and all that.  Better than expected but its still £250 just before Xmas - plus more importantly my car has a dent in it  :angry:

Although, I think I might get the missus to have a chat with her #pussy  :laugh:
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: mk7gti on 08 November 2013, 14:20
Is there paint missing monkeyhanger?
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: CraigW on 08 November 2013, 14:21
Thanks chaps.  So my man can do it for £250 mates rates.  Which isn't too bad.  But it also means I'm going to get her to pay for at least half of it.  Pay the piper and all that.  Better than expected but its still £250 just before Xmas - plus more importantly my car has a dent in it  :angry:

Although, I think I might get the missus to have a chat with her #pussy  :laugh:

Bloody hell, I had to do a double take with that last sentence  :shocked: :grin:
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: matchboy on 08 November 2013, 14:24
Thanks chaps.  So my man can do it for £250 mates rates.  Which isn't too bad.  But it also means I'm going to get her to pay for at least half of it.  Pay the piper and all that.  Better than expected but its still £250 just before Xmas - plus more importantly my car has a dent in it  :angry:

Although, I think I might get the missus to have a chat with her #pussy  :laugh:

Bloody hell, I had to do a double take with that last sentence  :shocked: :grin:

 :grin: :grin: :grin: I've just read it back and so did I - and I wrote it!!  :laugh: :grin:
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 November 2013, 14:24
Thanks chaps.  So my man can do it for £250 mates rates.  Which isn't too bad.  But it also means I'm going to get her to pay for at least half of it.  Pay the piper and all that.  Better than expected but its still £250 just before Xmas - plus more importantly my car has a dent in it  :angry:

Although, I think I might get the missus to have a chat with her #pussy  :laugh:

You’re doing her a favour by getting it done for £250 – make her pay for the lot, why should her irresponsible actions leave you out of pocket? Send your missus round to collect!  :evil:

I would say though that you might want to get a genuine written quote from elsewhere for the proper going rate just to demonstrate that you doing the mates rates way is saving money - she might accuse you of trying to rip her off without proof of the repair’s “worth” if it’s an £80 job in her mind.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: matchboy on 08 November 2013, 14:26
Thanks chaps.  So my man can do it for £250 mates rates.  Which isn't too bad.  But it also means I'm going to get her to pay for at least half of it.  Pay the piper and all that.  Better than expected but its still £250 just before Xmas - plus more importantly my car has a dent in it  :angry:

Although, I think I might get the missus to have a chat with her #pussy  :laugh:

You’re doing her a favour by getting it done for £250 – make her pay for the lot, why should her irresponsible actions leave you out of pocket? Send your missus round to collect!  :evil:

I would say though that you might want to get a genuine written quote from elsewhere for the proper going rate just to demonstrate that you doing the mates rates way is saving money - she might accuse you of trying to rip her off without proof of the repair’s “worth” if it’s an £80 job in her mind.

I have a written quote.  If she doesn't think that's acceptable then she can go through her insurance!  She drives a Vauxhall mpv - she clearly knows nothing about cars  :laugh:  And I'm sure the most action that car sees is a trip to tescos twice a week  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: Phil 117 on 08 November 2013, 14:32
Get her to pay otherwise she will never learn.

It's just frustrating how others don't even care. It's when adult just opens it at full pelt and walks off. Tossers.

And edit from me. If that was my car, I'm sure you're mate can do it fine, but I'd be getting a quote from a VW approved centre and get a non discounted quoted and serve that up to her.

Harsh, but it will sure as hell make her not do it again.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: marting on 08 November 2013, 14:41
Yeah, I'd make her pay for the whole lot as she's getting a cheap deal as your mate is doing it. I don't see why you have to pay for her careless actions. I've had this happen to me a couple of times and it is infuriating.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: matchboy on 08 November 2013, 14:45
In order of f7cked-off-ness:

1 The dent
2 The fact she didn't even offer to pay even some of the repair
3 The sob story
4 The 'you have a new car so you can afford it' attitude
5 The fact she didn't get her child to even apologise
6 The fact she lets her 5 year old open the door unassisted

 :angry:  In fact, they all f7ck me off!

I'll be getting her to pay I think.  Thanks all!

PS Yeah if I had got a VW approved quote then it would be at least double that - which I'll do if she quibbles this quote.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: Ginagee on 08 November 2013, 15:04
I bet she's been sh1tting herself all day over this. Get the VW quote  :evil:
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: GolfTi on 08 November 2013, 15:07
Similar thing happened to me a few cars ago. Clueless mother with young kids and no control.

I got a quote for repair £200ish from a dent repairer, she disputed the cost (she thought £50 should do it...) so I went through my insurance instead - it cost over £800 at a dealer.


I feel for you Matchboy, it is really infuriating.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: GTI_Redpath on 08 November 2013, 15:08
In order of f7cked-off-ness:

1 The dent
2 The fact she didn't even offer to pay even some of the repair
3 The sob story
4 The 'you have a new car so you can afford it' attitude
5 The fact she didn't get her child to even apologise
6 The fact she lets her 5 year old open the door unassisted

 :angry:  In fact, they all f7ck me off!

I'll be getting her to pay I think.  Thanks all!

PS Yeah if I had got a VW approved quote then it would be at least double that - which I'll do if she quibbles this quote.

attitude after something like that often dictates the outcome for me, if their blaze and unapologetic, bleed them dry
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: matchboy on 08 November 2013, 15:14
I think you chaps are bang on.  Apparantly my missus sees her every night when picking up the little 'un from the after school club - and she will be demanding the money from her.  And if any of you remember the whole debacle with my car, you know that my missus gets results  :grin:

But you are all bang on, if the shoe was on the other foot I would have paid up straight away - clearly people's values are not the same.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: Sootchucker on 08 November 2013, 15:19
Sh1t, I feel for you bud........if it was me, I'd have gone ballistic (and probably got nicked for threatening behaviour).

Firstly, well done sir for showing restraint in front of all the others kids and mum, that must have been really difficult. Secondly, if it's a dent AND paint work damage, it doesn't sound like it's going to be cheap (probably several hundred pounds), so it's looking like an insurance claim to me. Did you get her details (name address and insurance) ?

**edit** just noticed you have a quote and a very reasonable one at that. Also agree with everyone else, she should pay the full cost.

After all the pi55ing around we had with VW and delay after delay, it's not the sort of thing anyone wants - surely that's what child locks are for anyway ?

If it makes you feel any better (which I know if won't), it must be silly Friday, as I went to a shopping centre at lunch, and when I came back, had a scratch on my drivers door (right near the swage line) down to the shiny metal where some tw@t has damaged my car. No note nothing. A guy parked nearby said there was a flat back transit that pulled up, and the guy got a ladder out towards my car from the back. I asked if he got a number plate or a company name, but he didn't get the plate (said he couldn't see if from where he was), and it was plain white with no livery !!!

Checked with the centres security to see if they had CCTV (which they do), but nothing on my car. So the ba5tards got away with it !!! Fecking 8 weeks old !!!

For the time being, I've just topped it up with a touch up stick to protect the metal from the elements  - luckily no dent. Am I happy........what do you think  :angry: :angry: :angry:
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 November 2013, 15:26
Matchboy:

I wouldn’t keep asking for the money. I would present her with the proper full rate quote, then the mates quote and tell her that if she wants to pay the mates rate to avoid insurance then you expect the money within 3 days (before work starts). If you haven’t had it within 3 days then go through the insurance to get it done.

I’m sure your missus will only have to ask once. Why do I get the impression your wife would beat Biffa Bacon’s mam in a fight?  :whistle:

Norbreck, that’s a bugger for you. No chance the Transit is a regular visitor (like cleaning windows or maintenance at the centre with that ladder of theirs)?
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: barrym381 on 08 November 2013, 15:35
if its a red mk7 you have its really hard to match  :sad: so be careful who you let near it
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: matchboy on 08 November 2013, 15:38
Gutted for you Norbreck, must be the day for it.  Wtf is wrong with these people, does anyone have any respect or manners anymore, or has it dissappeared with this chav culture we live in?!  Stories like this with your car only fuel my anger - utter, utter (unts.  :angry:

Yes MH, she is from Leyton in London - which basically means don't mess  :laugh:
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: Sootchucker on 08 November 2013, 15:54
Hey, my family hails from Leyton (just opposite Leyton orients ground), although I was born in the less salubrious end of town that's Newham (near West ham's Ground)  :grin: :grin:

MH, I asked that very question if they had a contractor working and they said not that they were aware of unless one of the shops was doing something and there about a 100 of them !

I'm not going to let it get me down, (don't let the ba5tards grind you down) as otherwise I'll go mental. I'm trying to be pragmatic as I can be, which for those that know me with my fiery temper, know that's not easy ! . At the end of the day, it is just a car (albeit a 4 month late over priced car   :laugh:), and there are far worse things happening in the world.

TBH, as the car's white, the touch up stick has done a reasonable good job, and a blind man on a galloping horse would be hard press to notice. I've actually be wanting to have a go at wet sanding paintwork for a while (as I have a DA and a Rotary),so might be the time so properly touch it up slightly proud, flatten it back with wet sanding, then polish back to a mirror finish (If I've got the balls)  :laugh: :laugh:

For those that don't know what I'm on about, see this thread over on DW:

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=321821
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: Sootchucker on 08 November 2013, 15:57
oops double post.... must be something in the air !
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: johanr77 on 08 November 2013, 16:07

She was driving an 11 plate Vauxhall mpv - I don't know the name of it as its a heap.  But I would imagine it was still a £15k car originally.


Sense of proportion time. A five year old kid made a mistake but it's a five year old and making mistakes is part of being 5 years old, the mother should pay the bill (all of it). That quote above there, take a chill pill you're not driving a £200k hyper car, it's a golf and while it may be your pride and joy it's not that far up the echelons that you can sneer that much at a vauxhall owner. Crap happens, not worth having a stroke over.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: Sootchucker on 08 November 2013, 16:34
That's not really the point though is it John ?

It would seem like Matchboy was very well behaved in not loosing his temper in front of the kids and the mums, however that doesn't mean it's not bloody annoying as hell (I know the feeling) !

Doesn't matter if the car is a Golf, a Veyron or a Fiat Panda, it was brand new purchased with hard earned money, and even though it's not at the upper echelons of vehicle status, a £25-30k car, is still a major life changing decision for most, and if someone damages it, someone has to pay. Be it the 5 year old or the mum, yes, I'm sure it was a total 100% accident, most are, however I agree that a 5 year old should have been better supervised when around other vehicles. That's why we have insurance.

That's the beauty of these forums, keep your cool in the real world, and vent your anger and dissapointment to your Pals on the forums, who as car nuts themselves, will totally understand (well most of them anyway  :grin:)
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: JoeGTI on 08 November 2013, 16:36

She was driving an 11 plate Vauxhall mpv - I don't know the name of it as its a heap.  But I would imagine it was still a £15k car originally.


Sense of proportion time. A five year old kid made a mistake but it's a five year old and making mistakes is part of being 5 years old, the mother should pay the bill (all of it). That quote above there, take a chill pill you're not driving a £200k hyper car, it's a golf and while it may be your pride and joy it's not that far up the echelons that you can sneer that much at a vauxhall owner. Crap happens, not worth having a stroke over.

+1. While it's very annoying and I've been there myself, it really isn't worth losing your mind over it. Suck it up and get it fixed. sh!t happens unfortunately.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: Misterp on 08 November 2013, 16:46
I fee for both of you. It's the way the world is unfortunately, people tend not to care about other peoples possessions. I'm with MH put the two quotes to her and see what she says. If she still doesn't agree to it. Let your insurers now and do it through them.

Norbreck, stake out the car park every Friday in the hope you catch them. I've just noticed a scratch on my rear door handle about an inch luckily you can't really make it out.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: Sootchucker on 08 November 2013, 16:56
To be honest I can't be arsed to pursue it any further.

I'm a firm believer in Karma, so hopefully what goes around comes around for the mindless dick !

See I'm over it already  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: Mike S on 08 November 2013, 17:21
Grrrrr. The Mum pays 100%. No debate. A lesson needs to be learned....

I must also becoming paranoid. I kid you not I parked up last week in a pretty busy car park and as I was getting out I noticed the car next to me had a child seat in the back, and it was on the side where I was parked. Yep. I moved my pride and joy.... How sad is that. I just had a horrible feeling that if I hadn't I would have returned to a dent or scratch and no note of apology !!!! :angry: :angry: :angry:
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: Brenbo on 08 November 2013, 17:47
If someone is scatty enough to allow their child to open the door without supervision and damage another persons property then she should pay, she may not be so free and easy to let them do it again in the future as a result.  I would not let anyone get away with damaging my property if it was their fault. 

A few years ago one of previous Civic Type-R's was parked in my Mother in laws drive.  Her drive is massive.  It is literally wider than a couldersack.  You could turn a large lorry around in it without hassle should you wish.  However an ex girlfriend of my brother in law was unsure of being able to reverse her car and turning it around in the drive.  She reversed straight in to the front of my car.  Damaged and scraped the bumper.  She came in to the house thinking that just mentioning she had hit a car in the drive was going to be enough to get away with it.  I flipped big time at her, if she's incompetent enough to reverse straight in to my car then she can pay for the damage.  My inlaws were protecting her a bit, but I thought to hell with it and tore shreds out of her for doing it.  I have had comments about it from her, ever since the incident.  But if she did it again I would tear more strips out of her.  The fact is you have paid you hard earned money for the car.  If someone else damages it they can pay for it, it's not your fault.  IF you let them get away with it they will just keep on doing it as they have not learned their lesson. 
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: 2014GTi on 08 November 2013, 17:51
I would get a Volkswagen quote, present it to her, if she refused to pay then call your insurance company and let them claim off her insurance. Simples.  :cool:
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: Brenbo on 08 November 2013, 18:35
Perfectly agree with that. I would do the same
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: GolfTi on 08 November 2013, 18:43
Some would even add a whiplash and time off work claim....

Thankfully that's being clamped down on now.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: matchboy on 08 November 2013, 19:09

She was driving an 11 plate Vauxhall mpv - I don't know the name of it as its a heap.  But I would imagine it was still a £15k car originally.


Sense of proportion time. A five year old kid made a mistake but it's a five year old and making mistakes is part of being 5 years old, the mother should pay the bill (all of it). That quote above there, take a chill pill you're not driving a £200k hyper car, it's a golf and while it may be your pride and joy it's not that far up the echelons that you can sneer that much at a vauxhall owner. Crap happens, not worth having a stroke over.

I can sneer all I want, it's a Vauxhall sh1tter and I stand by my opinion. Didn't realise I was having a stroke though? This 'sh1t happens' attitude is why scumbags do what they do and get away with it. And whether it cost 200k or 50p it's damage to someone else's property and unacceptable.

And in no way do I blame the child. It's 100% the mother's fault. And a sh1t mother at that clearly.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: GolfTi on 08 November 2013, 19:16
Our kids were never, ever allowed to open their own doors at that age for exactly this reason.

It's an anti social and couldn't care less attitude which does seem to be getting worse.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: Phil 117 on 08 November 2013, 19:30
This actually reminds me of a horrible situation at Honda. Boy was I stuck between a rock and a hard place.

The Honda site had a terrible car park, really close spaces and not many of them.So I'm handing over this brand new CR-V, explaining the controls. Whilst sat in the car, some of my other customers turn up in there 52 plate KA, bag of nails, tons of aesthetic damage, horrible thing. They were coming in to sign some finance docs with me. So they pull up next to us, and the guy (about a 70 year old bloke), opens the door wide open, and hits the brand new CR-V. Honestly, the bang sounder awful! And this is just the start...

So the bloke is completely oblivious to this, shuts his door, locks the car, and starts walking towards the dealership door. Now my customer I'm sat in the car with, jumps out, and starts f-ing and blinding at him (in my opinion, quite rightly so!). To make matters worse, the KA bloke just categorically denied he had done it. At which point, handover customer gets me involved to try and back him up. As I said, rock, hard place, which one to choose?

I was extremely lucky that one of my colleagues was in the car park also, who took my finance customer inside, whilst I stayed with the handover bloke trying to calm him down.

To this day, that had to the be one of the most awkward positions I've ever been in.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 November 2013, 22:13
Just another example of the "don't give a sh!te" endemic in this country. So many people not bothered about anything but themselves and don't respect anyone or their property. My sisters kids have all been dragged up and display this ethic quite strongly.

The trouble with car insurance as it is now, the slightest bump and a claim can have huge consequences for next years premium. Even with protected no claims, if you have a bump, your insurance will go up. So many reasons for people with no scruples to hit and run/deny if they haven't been caught in the act (and sometimes even if they have).

Having a nice car is such a burden sometimes. I will park the other side of a supermarket car park (and someone will still park next to you even when there are 50-100 spaces they could've been in. I also look for child/baby seats and if all else fails I try to make sure i'm parking next to a car dearer than mine that looks well kept.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: Ginagee on 08 November 2013, 22:26
Just another example of the "don't give a sh!te" endemic in this country. So many people not bothered about anything but themselves and don't respect anyone or their property. My sisters kids have all been dragged up and display this ethic quite strongly.

The trouble with car insurance as it is now, the slightest bump and a claim can have huge consequences for next years premium. Even with protected no claims, if you have a bump, your insurance will go up. So many reasons for people with no scruples to hit and run/deny if they haven't been caught in the act (and sometimes even if they have).

Having a nice car is such a burden sometimes. I will park the other side of a supermarket car park (and someone will still park next to you even when there are 50-100 spaces they could've been in. I also look for child/baby seats and if all else fails I try to make sure i'm parking next to a car dearer than mine that looks well kept.

Yep. I do exactly the same. Only park next to cars that look like their owners care for them. Only trouble is, you return to find a heap has parked next to you while you were away.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: e.l.s on 09 November 2013, 18:01
I'm ashamed to say that if a car park is quiet I'll take up two spaces.... I wouldn't do this at busy times though, honest  :smiley:, I'd also look for a space next to a nice car, and on the end of the row if possible. But If I know it's going to be really busy I take our old car
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: monkeyhanger on 10 November 2013, 09:11
I parked at the end of a row in the Metrocentre yesterday, someone else was also thinking of their car's safety and parked directly in front of me, also at the end of the row. It was an Audi R8 convertible.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 November 2013, 15:16
you need to be careful getting repairs on paint done as in the future somewhere down the line if you have a paint problem VW will refuse to help. that's why I took mine to the vw approved bodyshop as I now have the paperwork if anything happens with  paintwork issues.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: Misterp on 11 November 2013, 08:10
I went to the local asda yesterday, was reluctant to park too close to tele entrance but the mrs timely reminded me that it was freezing and the little one was sleeping so she demanded we park closer. I managed to get a space at as close to the entrance but away from all the clutter. Upon locking I told the mrs I have a feeling someone will dink my door.

To cut a long story short. Get home empty the car go out to get the baby out and lock up as I open the rear door I see shining in the light a dent smaller than a 5p coin. No paint chip just a dent.

Not bloody impressed and it's at the height that a door was responsible. I only washed the Car on sat and it surely wasn't there. Only good thing is it's only visible from really close up. I was livid yesterday spouting on about a lack of respect and all that is wrong with the society. Now it's on to looking for a dent repair guy. Not impressed.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: Gingernick on 11 November 2013, 09:09
I just a paintless dent repair on my mito's bonnet..nobody fault in this case as it was a branch that blew off a tree during the big winds recently. the guy did an amazing job as it was a really nasty dent, small but quite sharp. And right on the sculpted bonnet line.

the one thing I find though is people are generally bone idle...so I just park at the farthest point away from the store doors in car parks. The only other cars there are usually like minded people.
Title: Re: 7 weeks in - dent in the car
Post by: mcmaddy on 11 November 2013, 10:45
I just a paintless dent repair on my mito's bonnet..nobody fault in this case as it was a branch that blew off a tree during the big winds recently. the guy did an amazing job as it was a really nasty dent, small but quite sharp. And right on the sculpted bonnet line.

the one thing I find though is people are generally bone idle...so I just park at the farthest point away from the store doors in car parks. The only other cars there are usually like minded people.
probably very easy to fix as it was on the bonnet but couldn't be done on my wheel arch stone dent.