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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Phil 117 on 04 November 2013, 12:12
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Still really tempted to change from a GTD to a GTI. I just know my bottom line will constantly be on fuel.
Logged into my old VW desktop today, and the Golf R can be ordered this week. Wonder if this will be a 12 month wait...
FYI anyway:
Fastest accelerating production Golf yet is real firecracker
New Golf R opens for ordering on 5 November VW1319-13
VW1319-13
The new Golf R opens for ordering this week, adding real fireworks to the range. Keep an eye on Desktop for when it will appear on our vehicle ordering system.
The hottest of hatchbacks is the fastest-accelerating Golf yet, and comes with a 2.0-litre turbocharged petrol engine that produces 300PS and 380Nm of torque.
Golf_R_front quarters on track VW1319-13
The power is transferred to the road via the latest 4MOTION four-wheel drive system which enables the R to accelerate from standstill to 62mph in just 5.3 seconds (compared with 5.7 seconds for the previous model), or 4.9 seconds when fitted with the optional six-speed DSG gearbox. Top speed is electronically limited to 155 mph.
Golf_R_on track VW1319-13
The new Golf R isn’t just faster, either; with officially verified fuel consumption of 39.8 pg on the combined cycle (40.9mpg for the DSG version), and CO2 emissions as low as 159 g/km it is up to 18 per cent more efficient than its predecessor.
The volkswagen.co.uk configurator for the model is due to be completed on 2 January. In the meantime, the Golf R features on the site’s ‘Coming soon’ page.
Golf_R_side-on VW1319-13
Download an electronic copy of the price list below.
Dynaudio sound system will not be available at launch and is expected to be released from mid-2014. Park Assist will not be available on Golf R.
Prices
R 3dr 6spd manual R 3dr 6spd DSG R 5dr 6spd manual R 5dr 6spd DSG
£29,900 £31,315 £30,555 £31,970
The on-sale date is planned for 4 February 2014 by which time we will have finalised the ABI insurance information.
Retailer demonstrators will be allocated in the normal way.
Key differences from Golf GTI:
Fuel tank capacity increased to 55 litres (from 50)
Luggage capacity reduced from 380 litres to 343 litres (rear seats up)
Luggage capacity reduced from 1,270 litres to 1,233 litres (rear seats folded)
New colour available for the R – Lapiz blue (see images)
Standard wheels are 18-inch Cadiz alloys, with a 19-inch Pretoria alloys optional
‘Race Mode’ available when the Adaptive Chassis Control (DCC) is chosen
Standard bi-xenon headlights with new design LED daytime running lights (double-U design)
Quad-chrome exhaust pipes and other external styling tweaks such as matt chrome mirror caps
‘ESC Sport’ mode delays the activation of the ESC systems which can also be fully deactivated
Golf R dials and key
(http://thumbsnap.com/s/GchRg7MC.png)
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Priced well but not being able to have Dynaudio sound system until mid-2014 sounds bad. :huh:
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Nice info! Pricing pretty decent as well tbf. What is 'race mode' though?
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I'm changing from the GTD to GTI. I went in to my dealer to order another GTD to replace my mk6 one but decided the GTI was more fun to drive after a test drive. It's going to be a shock with the fuel consumption difference ! :cry: I would love an R, maybe in 3 years :cool:
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Wow, the pricing is excellent. I would be very interested to see if there is any discount available. God it's tempting to find out how much it would cost to trade up
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I already own the best looking and sounding Racing Golf's.... so I'm giving this one a miss.
Not too keen on its looks and why on earth does it need 4 exhaust pipes for a 2.0 turbo engine.
One of the reasons I opted for the GTi was that I feel the lesser weight and e-Diff will make the GTi more fun around the corners. :cool:
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Wow, the pricing is excellent. I would be very interested to see if there is any discount available. God it's tempting to find out how much it would cost to trade up
I was thinking the same thing Craig. Like, I think next year once the Dyaudio becomes available I'd be very tempted if I could secure a a good discount. The DSG would be a tempter too given the level of power available this is when an auto box comes into its own. Hmmmmm! :laugh:
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Wow, the pricing is excellent. I would be very interested to see if there is any discount available. God it's tempting to find out how much it would cost to trade up
I was thinking the same thing Craig. Like, I think next year once the Dyaudio becomes available I'd be very tempted if I could secure a a good discount. The DSG would be a tempter too given the level of power available this is when an auto box comes into its own. Hmmmmm! :laugh:
The DSG would definitely be a tempter especially for launch control, 300bhp and 4wd of the line would be epic. The problem with me is i'd get the R and then a few months later they release the new TT and im wishing i had waited for that and so on. It's never ending :grin: :grin:
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Did anyone else read the specs and think "Why didn't I wait with ordering my GTI?"
That is tortue! 4 wheel drive & all that power! Why didn't I wait! :( Makes the GTI feel old news already! Lol.
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Now don't get me wrong, the R is going to be a superb car, but I'm happy to have my GTI on order.
Would the R be that much quicker than a stage 1 tuned GTI apart from the 0-60 sprint?
Does the R look better or worse than the GTI (admittedly a subjective one this)
Lastly, would I be happy with a vanilla build R or prefer a pretty well specced GTI? 30k RRP is pretty much my upper limit really!
Still happy with the GTI, although I can see the draw towards the R - definitely more exclusive, quicker (as standard) and available in a blue I actually like!
Hopefully they'll not make the same mistakes with the order books etc as they did with the GTI/GTD and there's less of a wait!!
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Did anyone else read the specs and think "Why didn't I wait with ordering my GTI?"
That is tortue! 4 wheel drive & all that power! Why didn't I wait! :( Makes the GTI feel old news already! Lol.
Not really, I knew very well that the Golf R was coming but still decided to buy the GTi based on it being less costly from an ownership prespective and the fact that its an altogether lighter package.
If I opted for the Golf R it would have cost me about £40k approx, is the Golf R going to be £10k worth of more fun compared to the GTi, not in my eyes.
Volkswagen lost my interest in the R brand when they ditched the Golf R32 and the bespoke nature of the original car.
If I had to pick between a Golf R or Audi S3, I would have to be the S3 :rolleyes:
There is only one Golf R.... the R32..... http://youtu.be/RjK5JEsy_0Q (http://youtu.be/RjK5JEsy_0Q)
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Did anyone else read the specs and think "Why didn't I wait with ordering my GTI?"
That is tortue! 4 wheel drive & all that power! Why didn't I wait! :( Makes the GTI feel old news already! Lol.
Not really, I knew very well that the Golf R was coming but still decided to buy the GTi based on it being less costly from an ownership prespective and the fact that its an altogether lighter package.
If I opted for the Golf R it would have cost me about £40k approx, is the Golf R going to be £10k worth of more fun compared to the GTi, not in my eyes.
Volkswagen lost my interest in the R brand when they ditched the Golf R32 and the bespoke nature of the original car.
If I had to pick between a Golf R or Audi S3, I would have to be the S3 :rolleyes:
There is only one Golf R.... the R32..... http://youtu.be/RjK5JEsy_0Q (http://youtu.be/RjK5JEsy_0Q)
Agreed I'd probably take the S3 over the R but how do you get the R at £40k ?
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Did anyone else read the specs and think "Why didn't I wait with ordering my GTI?"
That is tortue! 4 wheel drive & all that power! Why didn't I wait! :( Makes the GTI feel old news already! Lol.
Not really, I knew very well that the Golf R was coming but still decided to buy the GTi based on it being less costly from an ownership prespective and the fact that its an altogether lighter package.
If I opted for the Golf R it would have cost me about £40k approx, is the Golf R going to be £10k worth of more fun compared to the GTi, not in my eyes.
Volkswagen lost my interest in the R brand when they ditched the Golf R32 and the bespoke nature of the original car.
If I had to pick between a Golf R or Audi S3, I would have to be the S3 :rolleyes:
There is only one Golf R.... the R32..... http://youtu.be/RjK5JEsy_0Q (http://youtu.be/RjK5JEsy_0Q)
Agreed I'd probably take the S3 over the R but how do you get the R at £40k ?
Golf R 3dr DSG £31,315
19" Pretoria Alloys £1000 approx
R Bucket Leather Seats £2000 approx
Blue Paint £950 approx
DCC + Race Mode £850 approx
Keyless Entry £355
Discover Nav Pro £1765
Sunroof £650 approx
Winter Pack £245
Advanced Phone Kit £315
DynAudio Soundpack £530
Climate Screen £295
High Beam Assit £140
Rear View Camera £165
£40,575 :shocked:
thats before adding any warranty, service or GAP extra's.
For me once you start going into the mid 30k territory I'd be looking at a saloon car... Audi S3 saloon :cool:
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The DSG would definitely be a tempter especially for launch control, 300bhp and 4wd of the line would be epic. The problem with me is i'd get the R and then a few months later they release the new TT and im wishing i had waited for that and so on. It's never ending :grin: :grin:
Yeah I think DSG would be the way forward; my rule is anything under 5.5/6 seconds 0-60 needs an auto to get the full use of the speed/power.
You say that, but I bet the new TTS or TTRS won't be out for at least a year ie. 2015 - so it'd be only fair to fill that gap with an R :grin:
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Golf R 3dr DSG £31,315
19" Pretoria Alloys £1000 approx
R Bucket Leather Seats £2000 approx
Blue Paint £950 approx
DCC + Race Mode £850 approx
Keyless Entry £355
Discover Nav Pro £1765
Sunroof £650 approx
Winter Pack £245
Advanced Phone Kit £315
DynAudio Soundpack £530
Climate Screen £295
High Beam Assit £140
Rear View Camera £165
£31480 for me.
And far enough away from the Merc A45 AMG at £37850, any closer and the Merc takes the biscuit.
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Up to 18% more fuel efficient than it’s predecessor – where have we seen that fairy tale before? 4 Exhausts, one for each cylinder – a bit much, the only visual drawback IMO. Can’t see this getting much of a discount, if any. There’ll be very few of these made compared to the GTI. 18” wheels as standard seems a bit mean on VW’s part. “Demonstrators allocated in the usual way” – out there well before paying customers have a chance to get one, even those who ordered on day 1. Anyone chopping their new GTI in now is going to lose a small fortune – Can’t see anyone getting more than £20k p/x on a vanilla GTI or £21k on a fully loaded one – year 1 depreciation is by far the heaviest. Your p/xed GTI has got some stiff competition from the demonstrators on the used market in the “under 1 year old” bracket.
300PS and 4WD, That car is going to be immense.
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The DSG would definitely be a tempter especially for launch control, 300bhp and 4wd of the line would be epic. The problem with me is i'd get the R and then a few months later they release the new TT and im wishing i had waited for that and so on. It's never ending :grin: :grin:
Yeah I think DSG would be the way forward; my rule is anything under 5.5/6 seconds 0-60 needs an auto to get the full use of the speed/power.
You say that, but I bet the new TTS or TTRS won't be out for at least a year ie. 2015 - so it'd be only fair to fill that gap with an R :grin:
Your right Mark about the RS but I believe the TTS is going to be released at the same time as the basic TT probably Autumn next year. There's been a test mule spotted doing the rounds at the ring but hard to tell what it's going to look like.
@2013GTI so you basically specced every option known to man :grin:. I'd be surprised if you could get the 19"s with the pano roof
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The car will be incredible for sure, but I'm quite happy to stick with my GTI for now thanks.
I've added £2750 of extras on the GTI but I did manage to obtain a significant discount. If I specced the same extras on the R the list price would be £8k more than what the GTI is costing me and I couldn't justify the difference...
I'll maybe explore the option in a couple of years when it might be tempting to change but for now, the GTI will do me!
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The DSG would definitely be a tempter especially for launch control, 300bhp and 4wd of the line would be epic. The problem with me is i'd get the R and then a few months later they release the new TT and im wishing i had waited for that and so on. It's never ending :grin: :grin:
Yeah I think DSG would be the way forward; my rule is anything under 5.5/6 seconds 0-60 needs an auto to get the full use of the speed/power.
You say that, but I bet the new TTS or TTRS won't be out for at least a year ie. 2015 - so it'd be only fair to fill that gap with an R :grin:
Your right Mark about the RS but I believe the TTS is going to be released at the same time as the basic TT probably Autumn next year. There's been a test mule spotted doing the rounds at the ring but hard to tell what it's going to look like.
@2013GTI so you basically specced every option known to man :grin:. I'd be surprised if you could get the 19"s with the pano roof
I didn't realise they were releasing a TTS at the same time. Hmmm that's a tempter as that will still pack a serious punch (the TTRS is just too crazy speeds :laugh:) I'd be seriously tempted by that as the TT is an amazing car.
Based on the above spec prices, mine would be £34,645 - with a potential 12% discount that would make it £30,488 - very reasonable for a car of that quality and speed :evil:
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I doubt there will be any discount available on the Golf R with approx 30-35 weeks lead time.
Keep a eye on the future Audi RS3 saloon, that should be a good package. :cool:
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The DSG would definitely be a tempter especially for launch control, 300bhp and 4wd of the line would be epic. The problem with me is i'd get the R and then a few months later they release the new TT and im wishing i had waited for that and so on. It's never ending :grin: :grin:
Yeah I think DSG would be the way forward; my rule is anything under 5.5/6 seconds 0-60 needs an auto to get the full use of the speed/power.
You say that, but I bet the new TTS or TTRS won't be out for at least a year ie. 2015 - so it'd be only fair to fill that gap with an R :grin:
@2013GTI so you basically specced every option known to man :grin:. I'd be surprised if you could get the 19"s with the pano roof
I like my toys..... :laugh:
The Golf R is getting a real sunroof and not the Pano, the motor show cars have both the 19" alloys and the sunroof so I can only assume its possible. :cool:
I think the GTi is a fine package and thats why I ordered it, but I guess owning a Golf R32 too as something to do with not going for the new Golf R :grin: :cool:
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Just done the figures and with my discount I would get a 5 door d s g for £26087-52 p
Very tempting thought for next year
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Yeah true monkey hanger. Let's look at the GTI's promised 18% more efficient.
Claimed 44MPG on DSG turned into 28MPG in the real world.
So the Golf R claimed at 39 is going to be more like 20 if you're lucky. :P
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Yeah true monkey hanger. Let's look at the GTI's promised 18% more efficient.
Claimed 44MPG on DSG turned into 28MPG in the real world.
So the Golf R claimed at 39 is going to be more like 20 if you're lucky. :P
Which is less than a Golf R32.... 3.2 V6 or a 2.0T...... V6 all the time :grin: :cool:
I get a easy 24mpg out of my R32, 36mpg on motorways and 6mpg at max mph :rolleyes:
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The DSG would definitely be a tempter especially for launch control, 300bhp and 4wd of the line would be epic. The problem with me is i'd get the R and then a few months later they release the new TT and im wishing i had waited for that and so on. It's never ending :grin: :grin:
Yeah I think DSG would be the way forward; my rule is anything under 5.5/6 seconds 0-60 needs an auto to get the full use of the speed/power.
You say that, but I bet the new TTS or TTRS won't be out for at least a year ie. 2015 - so it'd be only fair to fill that gap with an R :grin:
@2013GTI so you basically specced every option known to man :grin:. I'd be surprised if you could get the 19"s with the pano roof
I like my toys..... :laugh:
The Golf R is getting a real sunroof and not the Pano, the motor show cars have both the 19" alloys and the sunroof so I can only assume its possible. :cool:
I think the GTi is a fine package and thats why I ordered it, but I guess owning a Golf R32 too as something to do with not going for the new Golf R :grin: :cool:
According to the price list, it is a panoramic and not just a sunroof. It's in the same option line as the standard panoramic.
On the plus side, it can be chosen in conjunction with the 19" for the R.
But this is VW price list so I could be completely wrong :grin:
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Perhaps if I order now, it might be built for when the GTD needs swapping.....
LOL
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Still really tempted to change from a GTD to a GTI. I just know my bottom line will constantly be on fuel.
Logged into my old VW desktop today, and the Golf R can be ordered this week. Wonder if this will be a 12 month wait...
FYI anyway:
Fastest accelerating production Golf yet is real firecracker
New Golf R opens for ordering on 5 November VW1319-13
VW1319-13
The new Golf R opens for ordering this week, adding real fireworks to the range. Keep an eye on Desktop for when it will appear on our vehicle ordering system.
The hottest of hatchbacks is the fastest-accelerating Golf yet, and comes with a 2.0-litre turbocharged petrol engine that produces 300PS and 380Nm of torque.
Golf_R_front quarters on track VW1319-13
The power is transferred to the road via the latest 4MOTION four-wheel drive system which enables the R to accelerate from standstill to 62mph in just 5.3 seconds (compared with 5.7 seconds for the previous model), or 4.9 seconds when fitted with the optional six-speed DSG gearbox. Top speed is electronically limited to 155 mph.
Golf_R_on track VW1319-13
The new Golf R isn’t just faster, either; with officially verified fuel consumption of 39.8 pg on the combined cycle (40.9mpg for the DSG version), and CO2 emissions as low as 159 g/km it is up to 18 per cent more efficient than its predecessor.
The volkswagen.co.uk configurator for the model is due to be completed on 2 January. In the meantime, the Golf R features on the site’s ‘Coming soon’ page.
Golf_R_side-on VW1319-13
Download an electronic copy of the price list below.
Dynaudio sound system will not be available at launch and is expected to be released from mid-2014. Park Assist will not be available on Golf R.
Prices
R 3dr 6spd manual R 3dr 6spd DSG R 5dr 6spd manual R 5dr 6spd DSG
£29,900 £31,315 £30,555 £31,970
The on-sale date is planned for 4 February 2014 by which time we will have finalised the ABI insurance information.
Retailer demonstrators will be allocated in the normal way.
Key differences from Golf GTI:
Fuel tank capacity increased to 55 litres (from 50)
Luggage capacity reduced from 380 litres to 343 litres (rear seats up)
Luggage capacity reduced from 1,270 litres to 1,233 litres (rear seats folded)
New colour available for the R – Lapiz blue (see images)
Standard wheels are 18-inch Cadiz alloys, with a 19-inch Pretoria alloys optional
‘Race Mode’ available when the Adaptive Chassis Control (DCC) is chosen
Standard bi-xenon headlights with new design LED daytime running lights (double-U design)
Quad-chrome exhaust pipes and other external styling tweaks such as matt chrome mirror caps
‘ESC Sport’ mode delays the activation of the ESC systems which can also be fully deactivated
Golf R dials and key
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Sorry can't see the Price list link ???? could somebody guide me please
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Prices are about 2/3 down in the text
R 3dr 6spd manual R 3dr 6spd DSG R 5dr 6spd manual R 5dr 6spd DSG
£29,900 £31,315 £30,555 £31,970
Looks priced pretty well and close enough to tempt GTi buyers... :smiley:
Wonder what the ETA will be on delivery... :whistle:
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I'm off to dealers tomorrow :smiley:
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I'm off to dealers tomorrow :smiley:
No DynAudio :cry:
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Prices are about 2/3 down in the text
R 3dr 6spd manual R 3dr 6spd DSG R 5dr 6spd manual R 5dr 6spd DSG
£29,900 £31,315 £30,555 £31,970
Looks priced pretty well and close enough to tempt GTi buyers... :smiley:
Wonder what the ETA will be on delivery... :whistle:
Priced VERY well. Same price as a well spec'd GTI with DSG. Then again I can imagine the price shooting up once you start adding a few extras.
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I'd have gone to the dealer tomorrow but its my wedding anniversary, maybe a cheeky call lol
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Audio upgrade is a must sort it out vw, hope rear cam is available
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It's not light.
1476kgs in standard spec :shocked:
The same brake system as the GTi Performance Pack. :cool:
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Any finance examples? Is the future value strong?
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Any finance examples? Is the future value strong?
On the German Configurator, the price of the DSG is €40,000, and the future value is €21,000
If it can hold on to that much of it's value, a PCP should be pretty cheap.
I am half tempted to change, but without being able to do an insurance quote, I won't risk it. This will be double a GTD for a 20 year old. There must be a UK press car I can try this on....
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Would love to try this but financially couldn't stretch that far and most of that would be insurance who would never cover an under 25 for anything sensible...although if I order it now I'd probably be well over 25 by the time it arrives.
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I'll wait until July then mine will be 4yrs and i'll miss the initial rush.
Was maybe thinking of going with the S3 Sportback, but VW have looked after me so well i think i'll stick with them.
Need to calculate the extras . . . .
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Just some more info on it:
I also tried to insure myself on that car but G8 VWW isn't coming up. I HPI'ed it too and says 'failed to load' Damm it.
(http://thumbsnap.com/s/str2Y7Qb.png)
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(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/wigit71/Golf%20R/RR_zps240de25f.jpg)
Took the plunge today 3 Door DSG with ACC, 19s and Winter Pack, who knows when it will arrive
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Nice one wigit it will be a weapon. The GTI engine is a peach I can only imagine how good the R will be...
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:cool: :cool: :cool:
Don't know when but it will be one of the first.
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On Piston Heads at the moment theres a thread about the new Golf R. Everyone is gobsmacked at how much it is, and if they were spending that money, they'd go for the S3 instead.
I really don't see what the appeal to Audi is. A lot of them are driven by idiots now days (not all of them, but a lot). I had a new A4 Allroad for a month a while back, and loved the engine it (It was the old GTD engine 170 PS), but apart from that I found it really poor. Every Audi I've taken in as a PX feels like a tank, heavy clutches, nothing great IMO.
Not tried a new A3 mind, but I find the dash on the VW better in pictures, I can't work the audi steering wheel scroll wheels as I have clammy hands. I think VW are getting more prestigious by the day. And plus, the VW is less likely to get pinched and people will let you out as well
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Nice Wigit! Do you mind me asking if you got any sort of discount?
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Nice one wigit it will be a weapon. The GTI engine is a peach I can only imagine how good the R will be...
totally agree the weekend test i had in the GTI blew me away (i don't give a monkeys what Tiff says) especially with reference to the Adaptive Chassis Control
popping my DSG virginity but i am fed up of replacing clutches on mapped manuals
not going to talk deals
i gave up on Audis a long time ago
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Drive the deal are already offering 8%
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I kind of agree here personally the shots of the S3 don't make it look great in my opinion, its just looks a bit plain. I know people say that about the R but I think it looks mint.
In Audi's defence I have never seen it in the flesh nor the R so this comment is purely based on internet pics.
The last time I felt this strongly about a car I bought my GTI so knowing what I'm like I will own an R but I just can't afford it new will be on the second hand market.
The only thing that worries me is the tensioner, hopefully no more horror stories on the MK7 but this would be the only thing to put me off....
Also love them or hate them but the quad exhausts look bad ass!
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popping my DSG virginity but i am fed up of replacing clutches on mapped manuals
Iv'e never had a DSG either but to really enjoy this kind of performance I think the DSG is a wise option!
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S3s are just Golf Rs with a awful suspension set up (probably why no 19s) and a lack of steering feel and enjoyed more from the passengers seat
i'm lead to believe you can also turn off the driver aids fully
i'm sure i could have saved a few quid more but brokers didn't real impress me and i get on well with my dealer
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Also love them or hate them but the quad exhausts look bad ass!
I know what I'd have. Side by side, I think it's the rear lights. Those LED indicators are the sh!t.
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Took the plunge today 3 Door DSG with ACC, 19s and Winter Pack, who knows when it will arrive
Me Too!
Same Spec as yours + Rear Cam, Keyless Entry, Discover Pro Nav.
Build Week 7. Cant Wait :evil:
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i thought the rear camera would confuse the hell out of the wife lol
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i thought the rear camera would confuse the hell out of the wife lol
:lipsrsealed: i couldn't refuse for £165.
Just got to stop myself from adding anything else now!
Should be a great bit of kit. Roll on March…April….
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Congrats on the R orders, should be an awesome bit of kit :cool:
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Took the plunge today 3 Door DSG with ACC, 19s and Winter Pack, who knows when it will arrive
Me Too!
Same Spec as yours + Rear Cam, Keyless Entry, Discover Pro Nav.
Build Week 7. Cant Wait :evil:
Manage any discount guys?
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(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/wigit71/Golf%20R/RR_zps240de25f.jpg)
Took the plunge today 3 Door DSG with ACC, 19s and Winter Pack, who knows when it will arrive
Me Too!
Same Spec as yours + Rear Cam, Keyless Entry, Discover Pro Nav.
Build Week 7. Cant Wait :evil:
Manage any discount guys?
Hello Mate
10%, very happy with that, means I get a well specced R for not much over standard spec list price.
BTW fitted your old Winter wheels and tyres last weekend very happy with them.
and they will also fit the R, bonus.
just need to flog my 16" set which are on ebay as we speak.
Thanks again.
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Did you buy it outright or did you finance it?
One of the reasons of gone GTD over GTI is the ridiculously good residuals. It's saving me about £100 a month. Then fuel.
I've had a nose on parkers, and a MK6 R DSG 3DR was £33k new, and a p/x value of £20k. Usually GFV's aren't much off that.
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(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/wigit71/Golf%20R/RR_zps240de25f.jpg)
Took the plunge today 3 Door DSG with ACC, 19s and Winter Pack, who knows when it will arrive
Me Too!
Same Spec as yours + Rear Cam, Keyless Entry, Discover Pro Nav.
Build Week 7. Cant Wait :evil:
Manage any discount guys?
Hello Mate
10%, very happy with that, means I get a well specced R for not much over standard spec list price.
BTW fitted your old Winter wheels and tyres last weekend very happy with them.
and they will also fit the R, bonus.
just need to flog my 16" set which are on ebay as we speak.
Thanks again.
Hi Movi, Great deal you have there - do you mind letting me know which dealer and person you are dealing with please? A PM would be great. Thx B
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Anyone know what are the residuals looking like over 36 and 48 months please?
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Did you buy it outright or did you finance it?
One of the reasons of gone GTD over GTI is the ridiculously good residuals. It's saving me about £100 a month. Then fuel.
I've had a nose on parkers, and a MK6 R DSG 3DR was £33k new, and a p/x value of £20k. Usually GFV's aren't much off that.
I haven't decided how I'm going to pay for it yet.
probably pcp with max deposit and over 48 months and then make over payments. thats what i normally do.
gives me greater flexibility without getting slapped with with loads of interest.
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Anyone know what are the residuals looking like over 36 and 48 months please?
Someone who got a finance quote should be able to tell you what their GFV is. Add a grand onto GFV and you shouldn't be far wrong. The Scirocco R had a slightly poorer GFV (percentage wise) than the 2.0TSI GT, but it's only 2WD, so isn't as versatile as the Golf R. Depending on how few of these are made, i'd expect to see a GFV of 50-55%. With few of them around you're more likely to be able to strike a good private sale when you change than you would for a GTI/GTD.
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Not going to lie,only just got my GTD but the R is turning my head more and more each day.
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Anyone know what are the residuals looking like over 36 and 48 months please?
Someone who got a finance quote should be able to tell you what their GFV is. Add a grand onto GFV and you shouldn't be far wrong. The Scirocco R had a slightly poorer GFV (percentage wise) than the 2.0TSI GT, but it's only 2WD, so isn't as versatile as the Golf R. Depending on how few of these are made, i'd expect to see a GFV of 50-55%. With few of them around you're more likely to be able to strike a good private sale when you change than you would for a GTI/GTD.
Yep Agree with monkey,
I would expect the GFV to be about £16-17k after 36 and £14-15k after 48 months
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Mines gone in for some work this week and i had every intention of getting some food for thought from my dealer but he was out with a customer ::) i'm definatley going to ask though!
The only options i'd bother with are Metallic blue paint and pro nav, i'm really struggling with my GTI tbh, i love the look of it but the DSG is ruining the experience in the day to day traffic, i've got a 1.6 diesel se as a courtesy car and the gearbox is lovely and i actually prefer it (the box not the car).
I know i'll lose a small fortune on it but if it's gonna make me miserable then it's worth it imo, ah well, you live and learn.....
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The manual box is so, so smooth.
I know where you are coming from Jimble, I had to get rid of my mk5 just because I hated the leather.
The R will be a rare beast.
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Let's hypothesise you went for the R, Jimble. Would you get a manual? DSG seems the best way to get the most of a car with acceleration (<6sec) like the R.
I went for a manual GTI precisely because I wanted to avoid the ill-experiences that you've unfortunately had, but I'd be getting the DSG if I was in the market for an R.
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Let's hypothesise you went for the R, Jimble. Would you get a manual? DSG seems the best way to get the most of a car with acceleration (<6sec) like the R.
I went for a manual GTI precisely because I wanted to avoid the ill-experiences that you've unfortunately had, but I'd be getting the DSG if I was in the market for an R.
i'd agree, if I was getting a Golf R I wouldn't consider a manual. :smiley:
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I would.
I've driven a few autos and will never buy one.
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Slightly off the 'R' topic but I love the DSG in my GTI. So so smooth and phenomenal in heavy traffic (which is where I spend lot of my time). Btw I test drove the manual GTI and it was an incredible box. Very, very smooth and sweet shifting. A joy.
@Jimble what are you not liking with DSG?
Back on the R topic - why do most folk think its essential to have DSG on the R?
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It's not an auto. :wink:
I love the DSG in my current Mk 6 R and there is no way I'd ever go back to a pudding stirrer.
On the subject, however, of the new R, I've got one on order (albeit with some finer details to be confirmed) but is the UK "advanced" phone option the same as the "premium" option needed for Car-Net?
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I think DSG for a few reasons; they will get the best out of the thing in a controlled way, VW clutches are like paper, if you map it (ABT got 370bhp out of new A3) you are in for £1k on an uprated clutch which is heavy and will never get your money back, DSG you will get a %, and I think there will be more demand for a used one
I get why people don't get it and I'm popping my DSG virginity, my dealer thought I was taking the p when I said ACC and adaptive chassis
The manual in the mk7 GTI is a real peach
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Slightly off the 'R' topic but I love the DSG in my GTI. So so smooth and phenomenal in heavy traffic (which is where I spend lot of my time). Btw I test drove the manual GTI and it was an incredible box. Very, very smooth and sweet shifting. A joy.
@Jimble what are you not liking with DSG?
Back on the R topic - why do most folk think its essential to have DSG on the R?
Well the Golf R is all about its figures and acceleration, so that's why I would pick the DSG.... better performance figures.
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@Jimble what are you not liking with DSG?
He says why below
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=254838.1500
I drove a mk5 GTI dsg extensive probably 20k and also a mk6 for a weekend I just cannot get on with dsg either. The cost of a mecotronics unit (as they can be troublesome and really need clean oil) in the future and regular dsg oil services are possible extra expenses too.
If I bought an R and its looks are growing on me unlike the GTI it would be manual car. Its not all about 0-60 figures unless your someone that needs to brag about such stupid things. To me it is about driving pleasure and I just don't get that in any dsg car.
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Struggling to remember the last time I read of recent mechatronic failure on cars newer than 2009, I'm sure someone will elighten me but not like when they were all dropping like fles on the pre 2008 stuff
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Using my extensive sample base of one, I've had zero issues with anything related to the DSG box (be that the box or the mechawizardry) in two years. There's a Tiguan with a DSG box in the family that has been fine over 18-months plus, too.
Granted it doesn't mean a great deal when those with problems out-shout the rest of us but it needed to be said. :smiley:
Tootle about town in D with ease and slap the 'shifter' left into manual when you wanna have some fun... driving rather than stirring pudding.
Personally, I love the thing and would now never have a car without a DSG (in whatever flavour that may be). Three people driving my car have been the reason they have now bought DSG (or similar) equipped motors.
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I've had dsg gti's since 2008. Not a single issue so far.
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DSG is highly criticized for no reason at all. It's a fantastic box that is just as likely to fail as a manual gearbox in today's modern engineering world. It covers all the bases with drive, sport and paddles.
People go for DSG in fast cars because it gets the best performance from the car. It changes gears quicker than human beings and is the reason why it's half a second quicker in the R than the manual equivalent.
It's always personal preference but you buy the R because it's quick and the DSG version is quicker so it's a no brainer for me.
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Slightly off the 'R' topic but I love the DSG in my GTI. So so smooth and phenomenal in heavy traffic (which is where I spend lot of my time). Btw I test drove the manual GTI and it was an incredible box. Very, very smooth and sweet shifting. A joy.
@Jimble what are you not liking with DSG?
Back on the R topic - why do most folk think its essential to have DSG on the R?
Ok, trying not to stray too far off topic, the biggest problem i have is that there is no consistency with it on my daily route which has some up and down hills, stop start traffic and a couple of long straight roads, if your travelling at speeds between 28 and 31 mph it will either be in 3rd or 4th and will only change to 5th at 32mph or above?? whilst whilst accelerating up and and down any kind if gradient it will hold onto 2nd or 3rd way too long or it'll be in 4th and i'm happy! I've done the same journey ~25 times in this car now and every day seems different! When in stop start traffic with the stop start system active it's pot luck as to whether it'll pull away smoothly as soon as you lift your foot off the brake or if it will lurch forward as it releases the brake itself and the traffic in front has disappeared into the distance!
If the car is just in D there isn't enough urgency when trying to pull away quickly or accelerating hard from a slow pace unless you floor it into kick down which seems to take an eternity to decide which gear to be in! Now this can be solved by being in S but then the revs are held up at 3k which i don't want all the time!!
I've tried driving it in manual mode in traffic but it will not give me the gear i want and still changes down for me! WTF? :angry:
The couple of blasts i've had in it in manual is where it really makes sense and the reason i suspect most people will get DSG in the R, when you keep the revs up and give it the beans in the twisty roads i think "now i remember why i ordered DSG" but then it's back to the daily grind and it all goes to sh!t again! :cry: i think it's just my daily route that causes my annoyance but there isn't much i can do about that without adding about 5 miles onto the journey! I have a few other gripes with this car and most are due to some of the options and thats why i said if i did order an R the options list would be left pretty much alone, i don't need half the stuff i specced on the GTI and probably wouldn't bother with them again, i'd go manual in the R because i don't drive like a hoonigan very often and when i do i think the "pudding stirrer" :grin: will do just fine!
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Based on that I would just get a manual GTi, after all the Golf R is just a tuned up GTi with more weight and more performance.
Does anybody think the Golf R is going to be more fun than a GTi Performace Pack car when going around corners?
For me Haldex is a real fun killer when it comes to weight & steering ability :(
There are some good reviews about the 45 AMG 4WD system though.
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Slightly off the 'R' topic but I love the DSG in my GTI. So so smooth and phenomenal in heavy traffic (which is where I spend lot of my time). Btw I test drove the manual GTI and it was an incredible box. Very, very smooth and sweet shifting. A joy.
@Jimble what are you not liking with DSG?
Back on the R topic - why do most folk think its essential to have DSG on the R?
Ok, trying not to stray too far off topic, the biggest problem i have is that there is no consistency with it on my daily route which has some up and down hills, stop start traffic and a couple of long straight roads, if your travelling at speeds between 28 and 31 mph it will either be in 3rd or 4th and will only change to 5th at 32mph or above?? whilst whilst accelerating up and and down any kind if gradient it will hold onto 2nd or 3rd way too long or it'll be in 4th and i'm happy! I've done the same journey ~25 times in this car now and every day seems different! When in stop start traffic with the stop start system active it's pot luck as to whether it'll pull away smoothly as soon as you lift your foot off the brake or if it will lurch forward as it releases the brake itself and the traffic in front has disappeared into the distance.
If the car is just in D there isn't enough urgency when trying to pull away quickly or accelerating hard from a slow pace unless you floor it into kick down which seems to take an eternity to decide which gear to be in! Now this can be solved by being in S but then the revs are held up at 3k which i don't want all the time!!
I've tried driving it in manual mode in traffic but it will not give me the gear i want and still changes down for me! WTF? :angry:
The couple of blasts i've had in it in manual is where it really makes sense and the reason i suspect most people will get DSG in the R, when you keep the revs up and give it the beans in the twisty roads i think "now i remember why i ordered DSG" but then it's back to the daily grind and it all goes to sh!t again! :cry: i think it's just my daily route that causes my annoyance but there isn't much i can do about that without adding about 5 miles onto the journey! I have a few other gripes with this car and most are due to some of the options and thats why i said if i did order an R the options list would be left pretty much alone, i don't need half the stuff i specced on the GTI and probably wouldn't bother with them again, i'd go manual in the R because i don't drive like a hoonigan very often and when i do i think the "pudding stirrer" :grin: will do just fine!
Sorry to hear you're not enjoying dsg, Jimble. I must say I absolutely love it but it does take a while to get used to.
Your experience of it sounds very odd to me. My experience is somewhat different (the opposite if anything), especially with regard to the ascent and descent of gradients. The couple of hills I have on my daily commute it consistently picks 4th every time. Rest of the journey is fairly consistent too. It was interesting though on a recent trip up north (where you get proper hills), I always had to switch to manual, as in D it wanted to go up some pretty steep hills in 5th and even 6th in some cases!! Similarly on descents that required a low gear, left to it's own devices it would again go for 5th. In the end I just drove in manual and had a great time.
If I have any criticism it is that in D it changes up too quickly and in S it hangs on for just a tad too long. Now if there was something in between it would be perfect! That said, I am a dsg convert and would have the R in dsg.
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Jimble
I know what you meen DSG cannot do everything. Also and im sure I will get beaten down again but ive always got better fuel consumption out of the manual over the DSG. With the mk5s for example it worked out over that milage on the same commuter routes as 3mpg or 10%. I also wonder how a mk7 DSG it will deal with the snow as pulling away in second in the manual helps.
Im actually having secondthoughts about the R. I actually like the idea and the looks are really growing on me but maybe like the mk6 R i will be put off by the demographic it attracts. My GTI was bought as a commuter tool its how 99.9% of its mileage has been done. I have been considering the mk7 R as an all year round, all weather machine which would meen I could get rid of my winter car. So i could reduce my car count to just 3 in total in the end. (Commuter, classic, sports car)
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@Jimble what are you not liking with DSG?
Back on the R topic - why do most folk think its essential to have DSG on the R?
Ok, trying not to stray too far off topic, the biggest problem i have is that there is no consistency with it on my daily route which has some up and down hills, stop start traffic and a couple of long straight roads, if your travelling at speeds between 28 and 31 mph it will either be in 3rd or 4th and will only change to 5th at 32mph or above?? whilst whilst accelerating up and and down any kind if gradient it will hold onto 2nd or 3rd way too long or it'll be in 4th and i'm happy! I've done the same journey ~25 times in this car now and every day seems different! When in stop start traffic with the stop start system active it's pot luck as to whether it'll pull away smoothly as soon as you lift your foot off the brake or if it will lurch forward as it releases the brake itself and the traffic in front has disappeared into the distance!
If the car is just in D there isn't enough urgency when trying to pull away quickly or accelerating hard from a slow pace unless you floor it into kick down which seems to take an eternity to decide which gear to be in! Now this can be solved by being in S but then the revs are held up at 3k which i don't want all the time!!
I've tried driving it in manual mode in traffic but it will not give me the gear i want and still changes down for me! WTF?
I may have misunderstood Jimble but why do you want 5th gear at 30mph? That would be labouring the engine and have no response to acceleration at all. 3rd is ideal at that speed.
Mine always pulls away smoothly from auto stop/start as soon as I remove the brake pedal, do you have auto-hold on? I turned this back off as there's a little delay.
As for kick down. Mine changes instantly on kick down. It will drop from 5th into 2nd for example and instantly send you flying.
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Took the plunge today 3 Door DSG with ACC, 19s and Winter Pack, who knows when it will arrive
Which wheels are actually the 19" options? They all look pretty big in the pictures. :(
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(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/wigit71/Golf%20R/RR_zps240de25f.jpg)
Took the plunge today 3 Door DSG with ACC, 19s and Winter Pack, who knows when it will arrive
Which wheels are actually the 19" options? They all look pretty big in the pictures. :(
19" Pretorias is the one in the picture, this is a £895 option.
we where meant to be able to spec the other wheel, Cadiz in 19" as well as the standard 18" but this is not on the uk option list.
I suspect the picture of the Cadiz you have seen is the 19" version. but the UK spec is an 18"
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Ah, so these are the standard fit wheels but probably shown as 19's?
(http://thumbsnap.com/s/GchRg7MC.png)
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Ah, so these are the standard fit wheels but probably shown as 19's?
(http://thumbsnap.com/s/GchRg7MC.png)
Yep Look like 19's to me. Typical VW getting the marketing material wrong as usual :rolleyes:
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I was under the impression there two options, the standard 18" Cadiz, or a 19" of the same alloy.
According to the price list there these.
(http://thumbsnap.com/s/0V1XCvWa.png)
In Germany, you do get the options for 19" Cadiz, but not in the UK price list. But as others have said, it's a VW pricelist so probably completely wrong :grin:
(http://thumbsnap.com/s/wbckj7Nn.png)
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I was under the impression there two options, the standard 18" Cadiz, or a 19" of the same alloy.
According to the price list there these.
(http://thumbsnap.com/s/0V1XCvWa.png)
In Germany, you do get the options for 19" Cadiz, but not in the UK price list. But as others have said, it's a VW pricelist so probably completely wrong :grin:
(http://thumbsnap.com/s/wbckj7Nn.png)
Best bet would be to ring the dealer and see what options are available on the system
I went for the Pretoria 19" anyway so didn't ask about the availability of the Cadiz in 19"
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I was under the impression there two options, the standard 18" Cadiz, or a 19" of the same alloy.
According to the price list there these.
(http://thumbsnap.com/s/0V1XCvWa.png)
In Germany, you do get the options for 19" Cadiz, but not in the UK price list. But as others have said, it's a VW pricelist so probably completely wrong :grin:
(http://thumbsnap.com/s/wbckj7Nn.png)
Is it not that the 18" Cadiz option pictured is just for a winter tyre setup? Looking at it, there does seem to be a lot of use of the word 'winter' in the description.
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No the 18" Cadiz is standard, same as in the uk.
however you can also spec an addition set of wheels and tyres for winter use.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but is the only paint colour that is unique to the R the blue? If it is then ill bet you 99.9% of R orders are going to be blue. They could be doing with expanding their colour range.
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Craig - yes, just the blue as an 'exclusive' colour
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Correct me if I'm wrong but is the only paint colour that is unique to the R the blue? If it is then ill bet you 99.9% of R orders are going to be blue. They could be doing with expanding their colour range.
Yup, kind of like CSG is the only colour unique to the GTI/D. :-X
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Maybe it's just me being blind but the Golf R isn't on the configurator yet is it?
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Not yet mate, it only appears in the price list pdf.
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Colour rise I thought the mk7 R looked pants in white unlike the mk6, I was tempered by the grey, if DSG had been available it would have been a no brainier
I think red also suits the mk7
The blue in the flesh was just amazing and I always loved rising blue
I also thought the blue was subtle
Not in th UK configuration till January maybe the marketing dept couldn't work out which dog to use
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Colour rise I thought the mk7 R looked pants in white unlike the mk6, I was tempered by the grey, if DSG had been available it would have been a no brainier
I think red also suits the mk7
The blue in the flesh was just amazing and I always loved rising blue
I also thought the blue was subtle
Not in th UK configuration till January maybe the marketing dept couldn't work out which dog to use
Oh Yeh, forgot that you have seen it in the flesh at frankfurt,
Did you happen to see the titan black cloth seats or did they all have leather?
(http://imageshack.com/a/img36/522/ckdg.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/i/10ckdgj)
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Movi - that last pic (above is disappointing). They get standard shape seats on the R too? Can't believe a MK6 Golf GTI/GTD has better looking sports seats than a MK7 R.
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Was going to sell my mk7 gti that I just got and buy an r but lead time from drivethedeal is April next year :sad: :sad:
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i didn't see the cloth so just looked on German site, alcantara and cloth suits me fine, in Frankfurt they had carbon leather which was stunning but not £2.6k stunning
Useful link posted on another forum on the new engine
http://fourtitude.com/features/Miscellaneous_Features_16/tech-analysis-next-generation-2-0-tfsi-for-new-audi-s3/
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Are the cabrbon/nappa seats the same as the electric ones in a different finish or are they different again?
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Well special thanks to CREWE VW for a very Pleasant buying Experience Today , My R is on Order 3 Door DSG in Black ,
Full Spec inc Carbon Nappa Leather , didn't bother with lane and Beam Assist ,but had everything Else inc the Pretoria
19 inch wheels , Great Deal ,Great People . :cool: :cool:
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5323/9667879285_5f52c50f72_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/harryhackenbacker/9667879285/)
golf_r_loff_db_19p_3t_pers3 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/harryhackenbacker/9667879285/) by harryhackenbacker (http://www.flickr.com/people/harryhackenbacker/), on Flickr
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5446/9671105230_0fa74c0d7a_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/harryhackenbacker/9671105230/)
golf_r_loff_db_19p_3t_pers2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/harryhackenbacker/9671105230/) by harryhackenbacker (http://www.flickr.com/people/harryhackenbacker/), on Flickr
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7411/9681254356_40487c0ff6_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/harryhackenbacker/9681254356/)
GOLF INTERIOR 5 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/harryhackenbacker/9681254356/) by harryhackenbacker (http://www.flickr.com/people/harryhackenbacker/), on Flickr
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Well special thanks to CREWE VW for a very Pleasant buying Experience Today , My R is on Order 3 Door DSG in Black ,
Full Spec inc Carbon Nappa Leather , didn't bother with lane and Beam Assist ,but had everything Else inc the Pretoria
19 inch wheels , Great Deal ,Great People . :cool: :cool:
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5323/9667879285_5f52c50f72_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/harryhackenbacker/9667879285/)
golf_r_loff_db_19p_3t_pers3 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/harryhackenbacker/9667879285/) by harryhackenbacker (http://www.flickr.com/people/harryhackenbacker/), on Flickr
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5446/9671105230_0fa74c0d7a_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/harryhackenbacker/9671105230/)
golf_r_loff_db_19p_3t_pers2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/harryhackenbacker/9671105230/) by harryhackenbacker (http://www.flickr.com/people/harryhackenbacker/), on Flickr
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7411/9681254356_40487c0ff6_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/harryhackenbacker/9681254356/)
GOLF INTERIOR 5 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/harryhackenbacker/9681254356/) by harryhackenbacker (http://www.flickr.com/people/harryhackenbacker/), on Flickr
Looks great. Do you mind me asking what sort of 'deal' they did?
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Yeah how much mate?
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That black R looks stunning mate.
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Looks absolutely amazing. Love it in the black and that carbon nappa :drool:
Looks pretty much the perfect car in my book
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nice spec harryhackenbacker, if you are going leather for me has to be the carbon option as it looks superb
i think the R will suit black as well
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Just an update in regards to interior options on the UK R.
Grey napper ey?
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I need to stop reading this thread!
The carbon interior does look the shiz to be fair, pretty much the car I want next but black or blue same spec??
Would need to see them both first in the flesh I reckon
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I need to stop reading this thread!
The carbon interior does look the shiz to be fair, pretty much the car I want next but black or blue same spec??
Would need to see them both first in the flesh I reckon
i remember the wife saying 'how was Frankfurt?' and my response was 'expensive and do you want the 35'
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nice spec harryhackenbacker, if you are going leather for me has to be the carbon option as it looks superb
i think the R will suit black as well
Thanks Guys ,put a lot of thought into it ,and a lot of research ,enjoyable and well spent time though :cool:
As for the DEAL well Yes it's good but so many variables , and I value the whole Dealer Experience ,and service ,
Problem ,no loan car ,The sales manager said take mine , and have done a couple of times ,want a convertable
fora sunny day ,he lent me one and so on .
With R's running at about 2 per dealer next year ,I don't think ringing round will get you far ,good luck :rolleyes:
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Happy days mate, good dealers are a rare find so glad you've found one your happy with! :cool: i think the dealers will get 2 per month like the GTI, you'd be lucky to get one at all at 2 per year??
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Thanks Jimble ,was at the dealer today 2 Cars Next Year !!!! Deffo the Sales Manager spent 3 hours on the Phone
to VW Yesterday ,My spec wouldn't Load Up Techo problem , all sorted Today just had an E Mail confirmation Order
with number and prov build wk 10 . Now Forget and Enjoy the GTI :cool:
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I noticed that the options are up on the Drive the Deal site!
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Anybody know what the premium paint is with the R? I am looking to order the lapis blue. Was wondering if that is just under metallic paint?
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Anybody know what the premium paint is with the R? I am looking to order the lapis blue. Was wondering if that is just under metallic paint?
Lapiz is Metallic, £535
Oryx white is the special paint £950
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Anybody know what the premium paint is with the R? I am looking to order the lapis blue. Was wondering if that is just under metallic paint?
Lapiz is Metallic, £535
Oryx white is the special paint £950
That's great mate thanks
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Hi Guys, Ordered my Golf R on Wednesday and I was lucky enough that although 2 cars were ordered before me, not only did they give me a great discount, they also swapped the spec of their Demo car to mine. Their Demo was ordered on the first day of release and they confirmed today I would be their first customer to get a car! I'm a very happy man indeed...
I orders Black, 5 dr, DSG, ACC and Basic Nav. Need to also add the £300 service pack. Was told tonight I need to order the winter pack for the bum warmers and also considering the sunroof.
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congrats on the order :smiley:
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Thanks wigit.
A few people have mentioned each dealer will get only 2 R's next year, can this be right?
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Thanks wigit.
A few people have mentioned each dealer will get only 2 R's next year, can this be right?
I would'nt believe this too much, Volkswagen always artificially control the supply to build up they marketing & hype.
They will build as many as possible :wink:
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Thanks wigit.
A few people have mentioned each dealer will get only 2 R's next year, can this be right?
I would believe this too much, Volkswagen always artificially control the supply to build up they marketing & hype.
They will build as many as possible :wink:
Yep my thoughts too..
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i think this is a bit of dealer bs on allocation, my dealer said they have an allocation of Golfs but can order what they want
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Thanks wigit.
A few people have mentioned each dealer will get only 2 R's next year, can this be right?
I would'nt believe this too much, Volkswagen always artificially control the supply to build up they marketing & hype.
They will build as many as possible :wink:
They either control the supply or build as many as possible - they can't do both.
They will restrict how many they put out, at least for the first few years. I wouldn't expect each dealership to get more than 5 per year, 2 could be right. People on forums like this are the hardcore fans. Not many people will be queueing up to pay £30k + options for a Golf. I'd expect that for every 6 or 8 GTIs on the road, there will be on one R. Considering GTI/GTD retail allocations are supposed to be one per month per dealership right now, 2 Rs per year fits in with that.
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I went to my dealer on Thursday to enquire about an R . He told me they were allocated 3 per year. One of which they had sold the other was the demo. Why order a demo if your only getting 3 in total?
Still seemed very keen to try and get a price near the brokers quote though. He went off to talk to the manager , then business manager etc etc. Then I had the sales spiel about why I should buy from them. I politely told him straight if you can get close I'll order. If you can give me a good part ex for my Scirocco even better. If not Broker it is and I'll sell the Roc privately.
I've used brokers for my last 2 cars with no problems.
So , I'm waiting for a call back this morning after he talks to someone else who was not in until today :rolleyes:. We'll see!
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Thanks wigit.
A few people have mentioned each dealer will get only 2 R's next year, can this be right?
I would'nt believe this too much, Volkswagen always artificially control the supply to build up they marketing & hype.
They will build as many as possible :wink:
They either control the supply or build as many as possible - they can't do both.
They will restrict how many they put out, at least for the first few years. I wouldn't expect each dealership to get more than 5 per year, 2 could be right. People on forums like this are the hardcore fans. Not many people will be queueing up to pay £30k + options for a Golf. I'd expect that for every 6 or 8 GTIs on the road, there will be on one R. Considering GTI/GTD retail allocations are supposed to be one per month per dealership right now, 2 Rs per year fits in with that.
If the R gets rave reviews in the press like the M135i did, I would expect there to be a long waiting list.
Considering there is a 5 month waiting list on GTI's and given the increased residual of the R, low interest rates for PCP there isn't a big difference in monthly payments.
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Has anyone had a solutions finance quote on an R yet to ascertain GFV and get a gauge on residuals for the R, improved or not? GTI GFV currently running at 50.5% and GTD running at 55.8% - any improvements on those figs?
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Has anyone had a solutions finance quote on an R yet to ascertain GFV and get a gauge on residuals for the R, improved or not? GTI GFV currently running at 50.5% and GTD running at 55.8% - any improvements on those figs?
Based on 49 months, 8k per year - 5dr DSG comes to £13,680
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Bensgti: I would guess that equates to around £16k at 36 months and 10k miles per year. That's similar to a GTD percentages.
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Bensgti: I would guess that equates to around £16k at 36 months and 10k miles per year. That's similar to a GTD percentages.
Which in IMHO is low considering the trade price of a 3 year old Compared to the GTI.
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i think this is a bit of dealer bs on allocation, my dealer said they have an allocation of Golfs but can order what they want
Exactly what my dealer told me.
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You have to realise that its in Volkswagens best interests to produce as many as they can :rolleyes:
As mentioned previously, dealers and marketing point towards low numbers of cars being produced to get people putting deposits / orders in as they think its a limited run.
All comes down to demand and supply.
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There is a handful of dealers with enough clout to order what they want , Sales Talk and mis Info is staggering so
are dealers who take orders with no Allocation of cars ,sometimes hoping to get them elsewhere in their group .
MK6 R ' s were always tight , I waited a Year for one ( Big Group ) only at the end did they release some for stock.
One Guy said the dealer changed the demo spec to his ,well if they are so free why not get more (except for time )
It's not known yet exact dates of the first batch of R's .
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When are we likely to see the press reviews start?
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When are we likely to see the press reviews start?
Not sure but EVO have reviewed the new Audi S3 which the Golf R shares it's parts with. A pretty average review, doubt VW group have cracked it with this generation of the Haldex system.
It's a shame VW didn't add the VAQ to the Golf R to dial out the understeer.
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Ok will take a look - I would think the R will be more driver focused than the S3 - maybe wrong though.
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Will the R get ACC? The price list says "over the GTI/GTD" so i'd assume so but none of the pics have had it yet and it's a fantastic system for the motorway!
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Will the R get ACC? The price list says "over the GTI/GTD" so i'd assume so but none of the pics have had it yet and it's a fantastic system for the motorway!
I don't think it does, nor will it have part assist. Not 100% sure but I think is because of the different bumper designs.
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I'm somewhat confused about the "Over the GTI" list in the specs.
R Sports suspension "Lowered by 15m" Does this mean it's lower than the GTI by a further 15mm?
Bi-Xenon headlights, that's the same as the GTI?
Carbon-Touch inserts in dash and door panels, the GTI has this?
Leather trimmed three-spoke MFSW, GTI has this...
So what you basically get is all the GTI badges replaced with R badges, cosmetically and a few changes on the splitter, side skirts and an extra 2 exhausts.
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I'm somewhat confused about the "Over the GTI" list in the specs.
R Sports suspension "Lowered by 15m" Does this mean it's lower than the GTI by a further 15mm?
Bi-Xenon headlights, that's the same as the GTI?
Carbon-Touch inserts in dash and door panels, the GTI has this?
Leather trimmed three-spoke MFSW, GTI has this...
So what you basically get is all the GTI badges replaced with R badges, cosmetically and a few changes on the splitter, side skirts and an extra 2 exhausts.
Not sure about the suspension but it describes the Xenons as having the "Double U" design, steering wheel as having the R badge instead of the GTI, and the dash inserts in the GTI are called Cyclone not Carbon, it isn't a great deal different though.
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I had a quick look on Drive the deal today and had a play around with speccing one. I think if I went for the R I would want the DSG. By the time I added on other options I would like such as the DCC, nappa leather, 19 wheels, sat nav and the metallic paint I was over £34k and that was with the discount. Okay I could probably do without most of those options but for me it's that payoff between having the GTI with all the nice extras or having a vanilla R but knowing that it has an extra 70bhp and awd
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I think the guys that have ordered the PP may well get the best of both worlds from a performance per pound perspective. I'm glad I've ordered it and once it's had a bit of a remap you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference in performance between a lightly tuned GTI and a standard R with a saving of £3-4k (or with £3-4k of options).
Yes, you don't get the 4wd (and the associated extra drag) or the looks (which are subjective anyway) but you will get a heck of a lot more exclusivity.
Still both great cars - I'm just too tight and like my gadgets too much (as well as the road tax being about 300% extra per year on the R out here in Cyprus)
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Your right, it doesn't have many bespoke parts a, just re-badged bits and slight modifications.
The seats seem unique with the carbon nappa leather but they should be for the price.
It's clever marketing from Volkswagen though to keep profits high and part sharing to a maximum.
For me the R doesn't feel special enough :) just a tuned up GTi.
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How much is the road tax likely to be on an R? And how much was it on the mk6?
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How much is the road tax likely to be on an R? And how much was it on the mk6?
it should be the same as the Audi S3 :laugh:
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Looks like they're putting the R on the online Configurator. Still not fully on yet though.
(http://thumbsnap.com/s/mNwfLBIp.png)
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How much is the road tax likely to be on an R? And how much was it on the mk6?
best hope its not like the late mk5 r32 475quid a year :shocked:
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How much is the road tax likely to be on an R? And how much was it on the mk6?
best hope its not like the late mk5 r32 475quid a year :shocked:
It won't be, but then it doesn't sound as good either ;)
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How much is the road tax likely to be on an R? And how much was it on the mk6?
best hope its not like the late mk5 r32 475quid a year :shocked:
It won't be, but them it doesn't sound as good either ;)
true :grin:
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Right,
the road tax should hopefully be £175.00 pa, 159 g/km CO2
Insurance will probably be at least 5 groups higher than the GTi if not more due to the lack of ADC and higher performance.
Servicing costs should be similar to the GTi apart from the addition of Haldex and DSG oil services.
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Right,
the road tax should hopefully be £175.00 pa, 159 g/km CO2
Insurance will probably be at least 5 groups higher than the GTi if not more due to the lack of ADC and higher performance.
Servicing costs should be similar to the GTi apart from the addition of Haldex and DSG oil services.
I think it will have ADC mate, seen some videos on youtube that show the distance button on the steering wheel, and the R line estate has the same grill with the sensor cut out so the parts are fabricated already, and there is noyhing on the price list that suggests it won't have it, although we know how trustworthy that is! :rolleyes:
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Just for info for anyone looking to order an R, had a chat with the finance manager yesterday while waiting for my car to be looked at - he was telling me that they've not had any R orders as yet. Only one bloke was interested but didn't want to order without seeing one/driving one. Interestingly (don't know if this has been mentioned) he was also saying that the dealers will not be given demo versions, so the chances of seeing one in a showroom is unlikely - the R is being made to order and the customers will be getting the first ones we see on these shores.
Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is that given the order books have now been open a while, I got the impression a deal could be had. If I was ordering I'd certainly be looking to get a healthy discount given zero orders at this particular dealers. Its Lancaster VW Letchworth btw (formally Wayside/Jardine VW).
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1st post in this thread from VW says demonstrators will be supplied in the normal way?? :huh: I know i've read somewhere that they can amend the demo orders for customers cars though.
Same old story eh? Left hand doesn't know what the right hands doing!! :whistle:
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1st post in this thread from VW says demonstrators will be supplied in the normal way?? :huh: I know i've read somewhere that they can amend the demo orders for customers cars though.
Same old story eh? Left hand doesn't know what the right hands doing!! :whistle:
:grin: Why am I not surprised! Will they never learn?! :rolleyes:
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1st post in this thread from VW says demonstrators will be supplied in the normal way?? :huh: I know i've read somewhere that they can amend the demo orders for customers cars though.
Same old story eh? Left hand doesn't know what the right hands doing!! :whistle:
:grin: Why am I not surprised! Will they never learn?! :rolleyes:
Maybe :) I think there are too many communication issues between VW AG - VW UK - VW Dealerships.
Volkswagen AG should take care of UK marketing directly and feed the dealers the information.
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1st post in this thread from VW says demonstrators will be supplied in the normal way?? :huh: I know i've read somewhere that they can amend the demo orders for customers cars though.
Same old story eh? Left hand doesn't know what the right hands doing!! :whistle:
:grin: Why am I not surprised! Will they never learn?! :rolleyes:
Maybe :) I think there are too many communication issues between VW AG - VW UK - VW Dealerships.
Volkswagen AG should take care of UK marketing directly and feed the dealers the information.
Too much lying being done by VW AG/VW UK and the dealers can't sort the truth from the fiction more likely. :grin:
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Has this already been discussed?
Noticed on the price list available on vw.co.uk that dynaudio and park assist are not available options on the R. What's the deal with that?
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Has this already been discussed?
Noticed on the price list available on vw.co.uk that dynaudio and park assist are not available options on the R. What's the deal with that?
It's true, no Dynaudio until middle of 2014 approx and I'm not sure if park assist is going to be made available at all
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Top of the range model and no dynaudio available to spec. The mind boggles.
Echoes of the "no pano roof with santiagos" debacle with the GTI, although you can get the Pretoria19s on the R with the pano roof so it seems. Bizzare.
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Top of the range model and no dynaudio available to spec. The mind boggles.
Echoes of the "no pano roof with santiagos" debacle with the GTI, although you can get the Pretoria19s on the R with the pano roof so it seems. Bizzare.
Top of the range model with no dynaudio to spec YET - it's coming! No doubt they are having to sort out fitting it with a higher boot floor.
Also there is nothing bizarre about the pano roof/19s. The main reported reason that these 2 options cannot be specced together is that it would push the gti into the next tax bracket.
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The R is now on the VW Configurator. My dream spec came to £39,115 :laugh: It least my GTI should be built this week :cool:
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Just £32245 for my spec, a veritable bargain!!! Ok, I'll add the extra doors and call it £33k…
(no, before anyone says anything - I am NOT considering it!!!)
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Top of the range model and no dynaudio available to spec. The mind boggles.
Echoes of the "no pano roof with santiagos" debacle with the GTI, although you can get the Pretoria19s on the R with the pano roof so it seems. Bizzare.
Also there is nothing bizarre about the pano roof/19s. The main reported reason that these 2 options cannot be specced together is that it would push the gti into the next tax bracket.
Interesting. My dealer told me he questioned it and vw tech said it pushed the axle weight over the design limit and upsets the handling. Not sure I believed that tbh.
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Top of the range model and no dynaudio available to spec. The mind boggles.
Echoes of the "no pano roof with santiagos" debacle with the GTI, although you can get the Pretoria19s on the R with the pano roof so it seems. Bizzare.
Also there is nothing bizarre about the pano roof/19s. The main reported reason that these 2 options cannot be specced together is that it would push the gti into the next tax bracket.
Interesting. My dealer told me he questioned it and vw tech said it pushed the axle weight over the design limit and upsets the handling. Not sure I believed that tbh.
This was supposedly why you couldn't spec the mk6 gti with 19" wheels and sunroof - increased the kerb weight too much.
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Difficult to keep the cost under £35K, I would want Dynaudio (having got used to it in my current Scirocco). But as I am not currently looking to replace, I would expect it to be an option at some stage.
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Mine came out at a shade over £35k (added on the Dynaudio at £525 as its a must) - that's a lot of money for a Golf, even for one as quick as that :shocked:
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Mine came out between £38-40.5k, way too much money.... I think the 30k barrier was the most I was willing to pay for a 3dr hatchback :cool: and I do love my toys.
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Mine came out between £38-40.5k, way too much money.... I think the 30k barrier was the most I was willing to pay for a 3dr hatchback :cool: and I do love my toys.
I agree, 30K tops for a hatchback. But if there was a discount on offer I'd be seriously tempted! :laugh:
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Nice car! But like you all say, hatchback car going over the £30,000 bracket is nuts, + this is not a true 4wd system. Give me the LSD over that anyday. Just my opinion though!
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I tried speccing what i would want and it came to about £37k. If I was going for an R I would want DSG, leather and 19"s above my GTI spec. The car looks lovely but at that price range you have so many options including 135M, 235M, S3, TT mk3 etc. It would be a difficult choice that's for sure.
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I tried speccing what i would want and it came to about £37k. If I was going for an R I would want DSG, leather and 19"s above my GTI spec. The car looks lovely but at that price range you have so many options including 135M, 235M, S3, TT mk3 etc. It would be a difficult choice that's for sure.
Your right but the a Golf R does appeal to a lot of people but for me the GTi was a better car to suit my needs, I already have a Golf R32 too :laugh:
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I tried speccing what i would want and it came to about £37k. If I was going for an R I would want DSG, leather and 19"s above my GTI spec. The car looks lovely but at that price range you have so many options including 135M, 235M, S3, TT mk3 etc. It would be a difficult choice that's for sure.
Your right but the a Golf R does appeal to a lot of people but for me the GTi was a better car to suit my needs, I already have a Golf R32 too :laugh:
If my budget would have stretched to an R then I would have held off but unfortunately it doesn't quite go that far just now. Still the dream is to be in a 911 by the age of 50 :smiley:
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I could have bought one and might have if I didn't have the original R32 but I too want a Porsche in the future.
997 Porsche GT3 Gen2 :)
Personally I would take the Golf R over the A45 AMG and 1/235i but a Audi S3 saloon is such a nice looking car.
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I could have bought one and might have if I didn't have the original R32 but I too want a Porsche in the future.
997 Porsche GT3 Gen2 :)
Personally I would take the Golf R over the A45 AMG and 1/235i but a Audi S3 saloon is such a nice looking car.
Try speccing an S3, they easily push into the £45,000 mark to be anywhere near as spec'd as the R. Everything's an optional extra, even things that should really be standard. Cruise Control, heated/folding mirrors, optional extras on a 32k base car!
The Golf R offers most value for money.
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Specced up a 5-door DSG in Lapiz with Pretoria 19s, DCC, Pano Roof, Nav Pro, Keyless & 3 year Service, came to a staggering £37,500
If I get the same deal I got on my GTI I'd be looking at £32,900 for that spec and I think that would be worth considering seriously. There's more margin for discounts on the R, particularly a highly specced one.