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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: andykram on 20 August 2012, 20:00
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Attached is Auto Bild's latest on the Mk7. They say in the attached blurb that it'll go up in price by 800 Euros, will be 15% more economical and will make its debut in Autumn 2013 at the Frankfurt Show.
The normal Golf starts at the end of 2012.
http://www.autobild.de/bilder/vw-golf-vii-gti-und-weitere-vw-neuheiten-3560647.html#bild0|ref=http://www.autobild.de/artikel/vw-golf-vii-gti-2013-vorschau-1823376.html
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Looks very nice if thats the modle to go by, but 30k for a gti with a bit of spec ? :shocked:
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Looks good in those pics, be interesting to see a real car :cool:
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just a few more days, mk7 supposed to break 4th Sept IIRC at least
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just a few more days, mk7 supposed to break 4th Sept IIRC at least
Not the GTI though :drool:
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Like it, just out of interest how long was the mk6 gti out before the R was released?
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Really dont like the rear!
I actually prefer the look of the mk6 more! :undecided:
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Fugly. :sad:
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Hmmmmm!!
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Once again, another magazines guess at what it will look like and what the engine will look like.
With that price increase, an already expensive shopping car just got too expensive....(That's of we're to believe this magazines latest guess at what the car will look like and cost)
Jim
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Like it, just out of interest how long was the mk6 gti out before the R was released?
IIRC our market, R was a year and a half after the GTi. Gti was out about 6 months after local release of mk6. Not sure how that ties up with international release. I wonder why they have the delay anyway, locally 50% of mk6 sales are GTis, so the delay in introduction means some likely lost sales to other makes during the delay period.
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Can't make out why this is rumoured to be launched at Frankfurt September 2013. Meaning we would get order books open in UK end of 2013 and first deliveries around March 2014, something like a whole year later, than the bog standard Mk7's?
Audi S3 looks to be launched 3 door at Paris next month (or at least ETKA) states from 10/12, with 280hp and 300hp.
So if its not conflicting the S3, and we have seen lots of testing of the GTi already, surely it would be launched around March 2013 maybe at Geneva show?
We have already seen the R testing, unless its the GTi with performance pack with the additional exhausts (230hp) so I would have thought the GTi would be sooner.
Hope so, as was hoping to change our mk6 early - mid next year, at least in 2 weeks we will get a look at what the mk7 looks like to make our minds up.
Dave
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All I do is stick stuff on here and translate what it says for those who don't speak German. I would think maybe a German publication might have a bit more of a clue of what is going on. But what do I know?
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Like it, just out of interest how long was the mk6 gti out before the R was released?
IIRC our market, R was a year and a half after the GTi. Gti was out about 6 months after local release of mk6. Not sure how that ties up with international release. I wonder why they have the delay anyway, locally 50% of mk6 sales are GTis, so the delay in introduction means some likely lost sales to other makes during the delay period.
Nice one thanks, that'll time nicely with my next purchase.
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Mrs W was going to get one of these but if it's an evolution of the 2.0tsi with the IHI turbo I don't think we'll bother and wait for the one with turbo more akin to S3, hopefully they will do the decent thing and kill off monzas
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I love my Monzas. But having just scuffed one after owning the car for 37 months I've just found out how much they are to refurb and it's a lot more than £49 that you can get normal alloys done for. So I think I may have to agree it's time to go back to "normal" alloys.
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thats the worst rear I have ever seen on any golf :undecided:
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I dont like it, looks more like a family car :shocked:
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I love my Monzas. But having just scuffed one after owning the car for 37 months I've just found out how much they are to refurb and it's a lot more than £49 that you can get normal alloys done for. So I think I may have to agree it's time to go back to "normal" alloys.
Plus once you've curbed one even if you pay for the refurb the white worm will still come a-nocking so it's probably better just to save and pay for a new tbh...
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Plus once you've curbed one even if you pay for the refurb the white worm will still come a-nocking so it's probably better just to save and pay for a new tbh...
If only that was the cause of white worm everything would be rosy.
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All I do is stick stuff on here and translate what it says for those who don't speak German. I would think maybe a German publication might have a bit more of a clue of what is going on. But what do I know?
Don't worry everyone's an expert on everything on line.....
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Bild 6 von 34
... der im Standard-GTI allerdings mindestens 220 PS auf die Vorderachse loslassen wird (im künftigen Golf R ca. 300 PS).
ANZEIGE
220bhp? The figure I stated all along :)
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Plus once you've curbed one even if you pay for the refurb the white worm will still come a-nocking so it's probably better just to save and pay for a new tbh...
If only that was the cause of white worm everything would be rosy.
Are you saying you can get white worm even without curbing?
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Don't like it, not sure, fugly, Mk6 shape better etc.... once the car comes your all be desperate to get your hands on one (maybe even me)! :wink:
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Bild 6 von 34
... der im Standard-GTI allerdings mindestens 220 PS auf die Vorderachse loslassen wird (im künftigen Golf R ca. 300 PS).
ANZEIGE
220bhp? The figure I stated all along :)
Eh? This isn't a press release, it's a magazines view of what it will look like and how much power it will have.
Yet another magazine plucking numbers and pictures out of thin air.
Jim
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"mindestens 220 hp" means "at least 220 hp" so it might be 225!!!!!!!!
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Are you saying you can get white worm even without curbing?
Of course.
Badges and centre caps suffer whiteworm and they don't get kerbed.
Polished/lacquered wheels almost always get whiteworm, no matter how careful you are with them...assuming you actually use the car.
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Are you saying you can get white worm even without curbing?
Of course.
Badges and centre caps suffer whiteworm and they don't get kerbed.
Polished/lacquered wheels almost always get whiteworm, no matter how careful you are with them...assuming you actually use the car.
Everydays a school day!!
I thort white worm was caused by damage of the wheel...thank you for enlightening me :smiley:
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Are you saying you can get white worm even without curbing?
Of course.
Badges and centre caps suffer whiteworm and they don't get kerbed.
Polished/lacquered wheels almost always get whiteworm, no matter how careful you are with them...assuming you actually use the car.
Everydays a school day!!
I thort white worm was caused by damage of the wheel...thank you for enlightening me :smiley:
I had one wheel replaced under warranty due to white worm but no damage at all.
Jim
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"mindestens 220 hp" means "at least 220 hp" so it might be 225!!!!!!!!
bhp aint the same as ps
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I was getting wheels replaced under warranty and one of the replacements had white worm out of the box and it hadn't even been fitted to a car. :shocked:
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220 PS = approx 216 BHP
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Everydays a school day!!
I thort white worm was caused by damage of the wheel...thank you for enlightening me :smiley:
I should have said more clearly...it IS caused by damage to the wheel!
Usually minute damage of small stones hitting the wheel as you drive. Grit, heavy dist at speed etc impacts the wheel and makes a minute impact mark on the lacquer...over time moisture gets in...and bingo! Whiteworm.
Sometimes it's an uneven lacquer coating leaving exposed metal (or even chrome type finished plastic) but normally it's from very small impact marks.
Driving through winter on gritted/salty roads will inevitably lead to the dreaded whiteworm...and sadly, although loads of sealant/wax helps, it won't stop it.
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I had one wheel replaced under warranty due to white worm but no damage at all.
Jim
There would most likely have been small impact marks on it if you looked under a microscope...but lets be honest: every wheel gets that...
But the combination of a polished (diamond cut) face and lacquer not really keying too well to a polished surface gives the dreaded whiteworm an easy start.
VW have been getting caught with this since the late Mk2s.
There isn't the same grit and crap on the roads of most North European countries as they tent to be sensible enough to fit winter tyres...whereas we just throw grit on the roads...which ups the change of the dreaded whiteworm.
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Whiteworm is a pain, I have suffered this on centre caps but luckily not on any diamond cut wheels so far. The Monzas on my MK6 had slight damage where the centre caps fitted and I was worried that i would get whiteworm and took it the dealer who photographed them to keep a record of any corrosion but they never got any worse. I make sure I wash the wheels every week without fail.
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New to this diamond cut alloy thing so thanks all, good to know chaps...
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Only thing for me is by the time the Golf.:R MKVII comes out it will have some unbelievably hard ECU to crack AMD so by the time decent software and bolt-on mods are available it will be 2015! :sad:
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Small presentation but no real pictures (http://www.youtube.com/embed/15gnYmA-FGI?)
However is does mention runflat tyres in the spec :sick:
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http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Search-Results/Spyshots/VW-Golf-Mk7-2013-the-latest-artists-impressions/ (http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Search-Results/Spyshots/VW-Golf-Mk7-2013-the-latest-artists-impressions/)
Heres another link now! :grin:
This might be just me but what happen to conventional hand brake. Whats so hard about pulling the leaver up and then putting it down.
y does eveything have to be electric these days. I love a bit of handbrake turning in the snow!
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Not wild on electric park brake either. And what's new about Park Pilot and ACC? I wonder what 'ergonomic seats' would be
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Not wild on electric park brake either. And what's new about Park Pilot and ACC? I wonder what 'ergonomic seats' would be
My dad had them on his passat cc. I can't stand them!
I think ergonomic seats means seats with lumbar support. Lol
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It looks like a giant sized Polo to me. Not a bad thing in itself, just exactly what you'd expect.
I'm curious to know what a Mk12 will be like - just like a Golf but half a mile long perhaps???!!!!
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It looks like a giant sized Polo to me. Not a bad thing in itself, just exactly what you'd expect.
I'm curious to know what a Mk12 will be like - just like a Golf but half a mile long perhaps???!!!!
Na the golf mk8 will be a people carrier. But imagine the engine they would need for the gti!
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If it is 216 bhp then thats crap, i don't care if its 70 kg lighter, 19 bhp increase in 8 years, is that progress. With the weight loss at a guess thats a equivelent increase of about 30 bhp over the original 197 bhp in 2004/5.
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I hate electric handbrakes there nothing but trouble once the cars a few years old.
No one nowadays seems capable of using a handbrake anyway everyone I see in traffic just uses the footbrake.
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used mine a lot before current car with hill hold and DSG. But found car always wanted to charge off unless shifted into N, so now got into habit of only using foot brake. :embarrassed:
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From What Car?
New VW Golf interior: first impressionsWe've had the chance to sit in the all-new VW Golf and first impressions are positive.
As expected, the styling has evolved subtly, with a simple dashboard design and a centre console that wraps towards the driver. The ergonomics are excellent, with everything sensibly placed and easy to read.
VW says that the range of adjustment for the seats and steering wheel has been increased; there's also a bigger gap between the brake and accelerator pedals and the gearlever sits slightly higher, so it's easier to reach.
The biggest changes are that an electric parking brake – operated by a switch between the front seats – is now standard. There are also new 'quarterlight' windows ahead of the front doors, so there's a small extra pillar behind the windscreen. Don't like the sound of this :sad:
Quality appears to have taken a step upwards, with plush soft-touch coverings for the upper dashboard and doors and sturdy materials elsewhere. The switches and controls have a solid feel, while the fabric-covered door pockets (a carry-over from the current car) and ambient lighting (a new feature) give a classy look.
New VW Golf: equipment highlights
The Golf will be available with a wide range of sophisticated features, including new infotainment systems and high-tech safety kit.
All versions will come with a touch-screen system; this is likely to be monochrome on entry-level models, but full colour for most trims. Screen sizes will range from five to eight inches, with the largest reserved for the top-grade system.
Mid-spec versions and above will have a system that senses when the driver or passenger is about to touch the screen and automatically switches from display to operating mode, highlighting the function that is about to be selected. It also responds to 'swipe' and 'zoom' actions, like a smartphone.
Top-grade entertaintment systems include satellite-navigation, a 64GB hard drive and an internet hotspot.
Safety innovations include a fatigue detection-system, adaptive cruise control, lane-keeping assist and a traffic sign detection.
The new City Emergency Braking Function uses sensors to detect an imminent collision and automatically applies the car's brakes at speeds below 19mph.
There's also a new system called Multicollision Brake that works by automatically applying the brakes after an initial collision in order to minimise any damage or injury in a secondary collision.
Full details of the new VW Golf will be revealed on September 4.
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All sounds very interesting, but I agree with you a quarter light window, wtf? Thought these went out with the ark? I guess it'll just be another area for my cleaning OCD to get a grip of! Great find by the way.
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Mk7 with a front quarter light like a caddy :sad:
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/NeilGti/cc011e9f.jpg)
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Its a good job that caddy has all that space in the back for vomit :sick:
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wonder how easy it will be to swap the radio systems. Already thinking ahead to doing an equivalent of old RCD310 - RNS510 upgrade.
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Wow they even made it longer and wider its doing to need one of those wide loss sticker on the back at this rate.
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Trust me you dont want the electronic hand break, ive had 2 RRS's and replaced them 3 times at a cost of £1000 each! :angry:
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Does not look to be an option :sad:
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I notice a lot of these rendered images show the wing mirror attached to the door skin and not the frame.. :undecided:
(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/misc/mk7golf1.jpg)
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I'd take it with a pinch of salt as non of the artist impressions show this shocking quarter lite window either?
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All the spy shots i've seen have the same mirrors as the mk6 but whether they are just mules or not i'm not sure? They tend not to cover the mules as much though.
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I would say, from the spy shot below of the actual vehicle, that the mirror is definitely attached to the door skin and the small triangle infront of the side window is the quarter light.
But then I could be completely wrong :laugh:
(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/misc/mk7golf2.jpg)
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When we're getting into details like tiny front quarter lights and wing mirrors attached to the door skins it makes me wonder just how similar it will be to the forthcoming Leon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdshUPLC21I&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I would say, from the spy shot below of the actual vehicle, that the mirror is definitely attached to the door skin and the small triangle infront of the side window is the quarter light.
But then I could be completely wrong :laugh:
(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/misc/mk7golf2.jpg)
They could be mounted to the door, it's hard to tell but they're definately the same mirror housing as the mk6.
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Not a fan of the wing mirror being attached to the door :sick:
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Not a fan of the wing mirror being attached to the door :sick:
Me neither, or he front quarter window.
They are two of the design features on my Leon which I don't like, shame.
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The mirror on the door and quarter light hark back to the Mk1, but I really don't like them on a modern car. The mirrors remind me of a Pug 207.
Also in the pictures in the original link, they show a fugly rear with the number plate in the tailgate, yet the wrapped up car has it in the bumper. Let's hope it's the latter.
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I suppose the mirror is the same as the new Cayman
(http://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/imagecache/article_image_480/Cayman%201.jpg)
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Golf VI, the new model will be 56 mm longer, 13 mm wider and 28 mm lower, measuring 4255 mm in length, 1799 mm in width and 1452 mm in height. In addition, the wheelbase will be 59 mm longer, while the track widths will be 8 mm longer at front and 6 mm at the back.
It will also have a 30-liter larger boot, for a grand total of 380 liters, while the overall width of the floor is going to be 228 mm bigger than before, standing at 1,272 mm. The loading lip will sit at 685 mm (17 mm less than before) so loading the car will be easier, while the boot's aperture width has increased to 1023 mm (up by 47 mm).
Ulrich Hackenberg who is VW’s head of development confirmed that the Golf VII will feature a progressive steering system that will provide various levels of assistance and also five different driving profiles: Eco, Sport, Normal, Individual and Comfort.
Towards the end of next month, Volkswagen will preview the hotter GTi version at the Paris Motor Show that is expected to get an updated version of Audi’s 4-cylinder, 2.0-liter turbocharged, direct-injection gasoline engine with 222 hp (165 kW / 225 PS).
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When we're getting into details like tiny front quarter lights and wing mirrors attached to the door skins it makes me wonder just how similar it will be to the forthcoming Leon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdshUPLC21I&feature=youtube_gdata_player
That's exactly what I was thinking :smiley:
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I think the Seat looks good, and the Cupra R will look even nicer, something to consider as an alternative.
Jim
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I think the Seat looks good, and the Cupra R will look even nicer, something to consider as an alternative.
Jim
Never! I'm gonna hold out for the R.
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Also hoping to hold out for the R, current lease expires Nov of 2014, wonder if R will be out by then. Funny, I remember reading somewhere that VW was aiming to release the GTi and R much earlier than before, so they would be out for longer of the production run. Will have to wait and see I guess.
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Fingers crossed!
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From another forum but very similar pics have been posted before, not the GTI but imo this is the new mk7.
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/821ED7FB-34D7-4F8A-96C0-74683683F831-5243-000008D680F31169.jpg)
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Check this info and pic I posted on the general chat forum, the options list is going BMW crazy;
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=239706.0
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Check this info and pic I posted on the general chat forum, the options list is going BMW crazy;
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=239706.0
Who put all the comments on that thread? :laugh:
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That picture is still an artist's impression though. If you look at the picture closely you'll notice that the rear head-rests are almost up against the back window which means the boot would be tiny, no way the be golf would be like that.
Jim
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From German press (via translate)
The coronation is from April 2013, the new GTI, which is now with 220 hp and up to 350 Nm of torque are a real Sprint missile. For the first time thanks to the new kit and an inexpensive model-gas (CNG) on the basis of that 1.4-liter four-cylinder engine (110 hp). Favored golf engine is far way the 1.4-liter with 122 hp, he holds a sales share of at least 26 percent.
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My local vw dealer keeps posting these on Facebook
http://www.autoevolution.com/news-g-image/volkswagen-golf-vii-first-images-leaked/84886.html
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Check this info and pic I posted on the general chat forum, the options list is going BMW crazy;
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=239706.0
Who put all the comments on that thread? :laugh:
Roll on tomorrow then?
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My local vw dealer keeps posting these on Facebook
http://www.autoevolution.com/news-g-image/volkswagen-golf-vii-first-images-leaked/84886.html
Dash looks good, but clocks look a bit too familiar. Anyone know what time tomorrow?
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According to the German Auto Bild, those interior pictures are from a Brazilian auto blog and "could" show the new interior and the new entertainment system which comes in three different sizes. It also mentions a dictating function for social websites such as Twitter.
I think I must be getting old but why the hell would I want to dictate something to Twitter on the way down the M62???!!!
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My local vw dealer keeps posting these on Facebook
http://www.autoevolution.com/news-g-image/volkswagen-golf-vii-first-images-leaked/84886.html
Dash looks good, but clocks look a bit too familiar. Anyone know what time tomorrow?
Well they're not real images cos the one with the steering wheel, the driver has no legs! :laugh:
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According to the German Auto Bild, those interior pictures are from a Brazilian auto blog and "could" show the new interior and the new entertainment system which comes in three different sizes. It also mentions a dictating function for social websites such as Twitter.
I think I must be getting old but why the hell would I want to dictate something to Twitter on the way down the M62???!!!
Amen to that! Wtf!
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VW needs to move with the times as far as the Golf is concerned.
Since I've been looking at other new cars, I've noticed most if not all have some facility to access the internet be it Facebook, twitter, news or the weather. It might not be to everyone's tastes but cars are evolving and they need to keep up.
I don't know if it was just a Golf thing in that it had little in the way of extras as most were already included, but most other marques I looked at had umpteen "useful" extras whereas the Golf only seemed to have a few basic ones.
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I think I've lost the will to live now. Twitter in a car my arse!!!
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................ Anyone know what time tomorrow?
21:00hrs Berlin time
http://www.waz-online.de/Wolfsburg/Wolfsburg/Volkswagen/Golf-VII-Am-Dienstag-lueftet-VW-das-Geheimnis
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More pics in the General chat thread.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kjwxT1slXSg/UEYkz8ZO9PI/AAAAAAAACK4/IPUhee9ENe0/s1600/23.jpg)
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Told you it looks like a giant sized Polo.
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Looks like an a3. And are they mk4 style rear light clusters just poking around the corner?
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Hope they pull their finger out with the GTi and R.
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It's a Golf.
Therefore, millions will buy one, most of us on here included.
Having looked at it more closely it looks like a cross between a giant Polo and a Mk4 Golf. The interior tilted towards the driver is particularly Mk4 ish. And it's certainly a damned sight nicer than the new A3. Now that is dull!!!!
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Here is your new GTI... comments please
(http://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1myx8ibh18d.jpg)
(http://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1myx8jb3l8a.jpg)
(http://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1myx8ibsj87.jpg)
(http://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1myx8ibuj86.jpg)
(http://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1myx8ibcj8f.jpg)
(http://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1myx8jb038c.jpg)
(http://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1myx8jb1i8b.jpg)
http://www.autoweek.nl/autonieuws/20525/volkswagen-golf-gti-ongecamoufleerd
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I hope thats not the front end, as there is no honeycomb grill's or red stripes.
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Prototype, so;
1. Stick on grill
2. Stick on side skirts
4. Rear valance
Go!
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Me not likey.... :sick:
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GTI CARBON (http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/2013-volkswagen-golf/lightweight-volkswagen-golf-carbon-gti-planned)
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Well thats a mule and looks nothing like how the GTI will look so i'll reserve judgement for now.
I REALLY don't like the door sill though! WTF? ???
And it has that stupid panoramic roof thats not panoramic like the Roc! :sick:
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Well thats a mule and looks nothing like how the GTI will look so i'll reserve judgement for now.
I REALLY don't like the door sill though! WTF? ???
And it has that stupid panoramic roof thats not panoramic like the Roc! :sick:
Eh? Just noticed the door sill after your post!!
If that's the new GTI then.......
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How about the R version? Is there a separate thread going for this?
Stand-by for a lot of how do I install quad exhausts on my GTI.
(http://www.vwvortex.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/golf-r-3-960x643.jpg)
http://www.vwvortex.com/news/volkswagen-news/golf-7-r-spy-photos-part-2/
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Only thing that would make me buy a mk7 is if they fitted the 5cyl rs3 ttrs engine but it looks like its same old same old.
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Agreed, that R looks very dull.
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Agreed, that R looks very dull.
It's only a mule! Standard body with performance gear underneath.
I'm not sold on the mk7 face though :undecided: the rear looks good but the front looks too plain and liitle too low.
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That's not a official pic, surly...that is well fugly!!! :sick:
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Some official GTi pics at http://www.worldcarfans.com
(http://cdn3.worldcarfans.co/2012/9/26/large/5307144351093881420.jpg)
(http://cdn3.worldcarfans.co/2012/9/26/large/1042415081371532636.jpg)
(http://cdn3.worldcarfans.co/2012/9/26/large/8712624461170844673.jpg)
Not much new really! Revised ddetroits, and can't see what's happening with side skirts...
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Looks pretty good to me, not so different to the mk6 that the older model suddenly looks 10 years out of date!
Optional 19" swastika alloys an interesting choice!
I half expected the cloth seats to have a honeycomb print on them though, maybe the lightweight version will get that.
Good (conservative) effort VW, it'll no doubt get the usual comments of 'boring' from those that would never have intended on buying one anyway in the pistonheads type forums.
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I like it. Hopefully the R pics will be available soon. See what you mean about the wheels! Not sure about the footrest cover either but that's just me being anal.
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Yeah i like it. Seems like a natural progression to me. Will be interested in seeing what the R looks like. Will hang onto mine for another 2yrs min.
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I like how the interior is all thort of driver in mind but like Ginge I'm not a fan of that footrest....and tbh im not loving the revised front bumper, maybe it will grow on me...and again the revised monzas a grower for me also...
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I like it :smiley:
I also like the wheels ... a bit of a play on the Monza style
I doubt we'll get the footrest in the UK ... would be a first if we do :grin:
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That actually doesn't look too bad :cool:
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i wonder if they will come with the red stripe through the headlights. looks a bit illegal to me
love the wheels too
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Its ok but i would have to see it in real life. I like the interior but i don't like the electric parking brake. Also from that photo the centre concel maybe bigger making less leg room for taller people a common complaint about modern cars a mate has.
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Saw those wheels on a Audi A3 yesterday at a dearlership, i thought they might use them on the new GTI, didn't look to good in the flesh, well not as good as the monza's.
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given autoexpress are involved in these pictures i am a little sceptical, not a fan of lower grill and think side profile looks weak and monzas
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(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/Adam135/3C4F3667-69EB-4AA7-81A7-A7B92C9B2EE3-431-00000031B7A387D7_zps070f6807.jpg)
Hummmm
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Looks like it's official folks.
Here it is in Paris! http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/paris-motor-show-2012/paris-motor-show-volkswagen-golf-gti
What's with the red stripe continuing into the headlamps? Looks a bit odd to me. Other than that it looks like a very mild evolution of the MK6. Nothing too drastic!
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I love it :-/ bank managers going to love me.
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Love the colour and its not a huge step from Mk6 so looks good :smiley:
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I like the shape and poise - looks more angular and has hints of the Scirroco in it - particularly with the crease in the boot - makes it look less slab like.
Agree re the red stripes in the headlamps - not so sure at the moment. Is that an indicator or badge on the front wing by the A-pillar?
I like the alloys as well :smiley:
If I get time, I'm popping down to my dealers tonight so will see if I can get some more information from them on timings/prices/options....
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"Carbon Edition" has been mooted with Ali floor and bulheads plus CF bonnet and roof dropping the weight to 1100KG. Now that'll be a) expensive and b) awesome!
Nick
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I like the shape and poise - looks more angular and has hints of the Scirroco in it - particularly with the crease in the boot - makes it look less slab like.
Agree re the red stripes in the headlamps - not so sure at the moment. Is that an indicator or badge on the front wing by the A-pillar?
I like the alloys as well :smiley:
If I get time, I'm popping down to my dealers tonight so will see if I can get some more information from them on timings/prices/options....
It's a GTi badge.
Not sure on the red line through the headlights either.
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I really like it! I'm not sure about the wheels but i'll wait till i see it in the flesh, i bet we won't get that blue as an option though!? :angry:
I quite like the red line in the lights tbh, it's a bit different. It looks like they've been raiding the Audi parts bin though, they are a lot like Audi seats. :huh:
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http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24
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Is that an indicator or badge on the front wing by the A-pillar?
(http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/attachment.php?s=7d8ca492e69c0f9d9fe3b70f6b5701f0&attachmentid=134&d=1348736555)
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Looks like a Focus ST badge on the fender :shocked:
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Absolutely loving that in the blue, it looks proper sweet! Best colour tbh...but bet it won't be available here...
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Cheers Joe - couldn't have understood it if they'd gone back to an old method.
The GTI badge reminds me of the Audi S-line badge but TBF the GTI one looks better :wink:
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Those wheels are straight from the new A3 and look like someone has taken a MK6 18% Monza and stuck in the oven.
10 minutes later, you have a melted look. I prefer the original ones!
Which wheels you do you prefer?
1 Odd shaped Monza
2 R8 lookalike
3 Geo shapes on the red one
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Absolutely loving it....except that steering wheel, too chunky. Mk 6 is a peice of art...
Cant see many people ordering the lower power engine...unless huge difference in MPG...but if thats a concern should be looking at a GTD
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That blue was used to show off the MK6 too and it was never made available as an option in UK / Ireland. Is it R32 blue ?
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A thumbs up from me.
Mind you those ones are loaded with extras. I bet by the time you've ordered the 230PS model, added the 19'' wheels, xenons and nav you're into £40k money.
How long until we're putting those little front corner splitters on our mk6s? :grin:
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A thumbs up from me.
Mind you those ones are loaded with extras. I bet by the time you've ordered the 230PS model, added the 19'' wheels, xenons and nav you're into £40k money.
How long until we're putting those little front corner splitters on our mk6s? :grin:
Looks like the new S3 is gonna be 30k-31k starting price. VW don't wanna be shooting themselves in the foot!
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A thumbs up from me.
Mind you those ones are loaded with extras. I bet by the time you've ordered the 230PS model, added the 19'' wheels, xenons and nav you're into £40k money.
How long until we're putting those little front corner splitters on our mk6s? :grin:
Looks like the new S3 is gonna be 30k-31k starting price. VW don't wanna be shooting themselves in the foot!
I expect the GTI will come in at around the same prices as now but the spec will be pared down a bit. All the new tech will be extra. Lets just hope 18" alloys will be standard and the rest we can retro-fit like we did with the mk6s.
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Very nice indeed. Like it alot.
Looks like I won't be keeping the bimmer very long :laugh:
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Very nice indeed. Like it alot.
Looks like I won't be keeping the bimmer very long :laugh:
Lol! Cancel the order - quick!! :laugh:
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I quite like it, don't like the stripe on the lights though. 3 door looks loads better as ive never liked the rear quarter panel window on the mk5 and 6. If it comes in around 25-26k i might be tempted as i sold my ed35 2 months ago.
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I quite like it, don't like the stripe on the lights though. 3 door looks loads better as ive never liked the rear quarter panel window on the mk5 and 6. If it comes in around 25-26k i might be tempted as i sold my ed35 2 months ago.
Order a red one and you won't be able to see the stripe. :smug:
I'm with you on the rear window styling, the mk5 & 6 3 door just looked blobby but they've done a really good job of the mk7 and the 3 door looks better than the 5 door.
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I'd have to look twice to notice the difference between the Mk6 and the new one. Subtle doesn't begin to describe it.
In a way, this is a good thing cos it doesn't scream "come and buy me" to me so I'll keep mine longer I reckon and save nigh on £30k!!
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^^^^I agree with the 5 door but the 3 door looks more different to me, pitty as i want a 5 door next.
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From VW UK on twitter: S from £16985, SE from £19790 and GT from £22050
2.0 TDI 150ps DSG @ £24625
Like a human form of twitter I'm updating here again: The Leon prices now released and the FR DSG 150 weighs in at ££22635 so very close to the GT Golf...
The 180 bhp Leon FR TDI is in at £22375 in manual guise so I wonder how the specs will compare...
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Same thread on Pistonheads where its being compared to the cheaper ST.
I guess thats unavoidable but I know where I would spend my £30k.
I think the Mk7 GTi looks great. A quality product. Love the design touches like the golf ball gear lever and the tartan cloth keeping with tradition.
Great stats as well but agree withe everyone else on here that the performance pack would have to be specced as well.
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Very nice indeed. Like it alot.
Looks like I won't be keeping the bimmer very long :laugh:
Lol! Cancel the order - quick!! :laugh:
To effing late now Andy..... I've sold my soul to the darkside.
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Very nice indeed. Like it alot.
Looks like I won't be keeping the bimmer very long :laugh:
Lol! Cancel the order - quick!! :laugh:
To effing late now Andy..... I've sold my soul to the darkside.
D'oh! Wonder if another of our friends will cancel his order...?!!!
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Very nice indeed. Like it alot.
Looks like I won't be keeping the bimmer very long :laugh:
Lol! Cancel the order - quick!! :laugh:
To effing late now Andy..... I've sold my soul to the darkside.
D'oh! Wonder if another of our friends will cancel his order...?!!!
Possibly.... always thought he'd be back with a Mk7 :smiley:
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Another shot of the GTI but in red...
(http://www.whatcar.com/Car/Volkswagen/Golf/27912129127.jpg)
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Those wheels are straight from the new A3 and look like someone has taken a MK6 18% Monza and stuck in the oven.
10 minutes later, you have a melted look. I prefer the original ones!
Which wheels you do you prefer?
1 Odd shaped Monza
2 R8 lookalike
3 Geo shapes on the red one
I like version 2 if they are the ones you are describing on the 3 door white car half way down pics.
Overall it loos nice apart from that red stripe through the headlights :sick:
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Loving the red with pano roof.
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My only criticism with the look is the red stripe across the lights :sick:
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WMD what the running led lights will look like? I quite the red stripe, I guess they've had to beef it up a bit cos the A45 has a red detail on the front too and that's gonna be a big contender.
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Possibly.... always thought he'd be back with a Mk7 :smiley:
But not just any Mk7 :grin:
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Another shot of the GTI but in red...
(http://www.whatcar.com/Car/Volkswagen/Golf/27912129127.jpg)
God I love that shot. And the benefit of the red is that it disguises that marmite red stripe
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^^ Agreed.
I like it in white but I think it looks best all round in red esp. with the sunroof and black roof surround.
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Is that not the metallic red they wheel out every year for Worthersee but never bring it out??
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You can probably order it on the continent for a couple of thousand Euros
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There is something just not right about the red lines on the lights.
They are obviously trying to run the red from the grille to the upper part of the bumper panel. This makes the line look squint to me.
I wonder if running the line parallel along the bottom of the light may have worked?
(http://www.contracthireandleasing.com/cms-images/VW-Golf-GTI2.jpg)
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A video of it at the Paris Motor Show.
They are saying with the limited slip on the new GTI it can go round the Nurburgring 13 seconds faster than the old one?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Waq7A_re7U&feature=player_embedded
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I still want to put a Red bar at the top of the grill. Apart from that I am liking it. Just want to know what the kit levels will be as standard and what price.
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Another report from gay Paris by Evo mag: http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/286729/updated_vw_golf_gti_revealed_at_the_paris_motor_show.html
Interesting to hear that there may not be an R in RHD guise thanks to the unpopularity of the model in the UK, as obviously VW are surprised that not many people can afford to blow £35k+ on a shopping car. But I can see their point, obviously 99% of the world is LHD and thus it doesn't matter if they only sell one or two cars in some LHD countries as it doesn't cost any more money in tooling unlike selling a couple of hundred in the UK, Japan and Australia which will never see the profit offset against the engineering costs (assuming there actually are that many costs involved over and above the other RHD models). Either that or they want a big fuss which will provide free advertising which will up the image of the car, a bit like when the mk1 was only introduced in LHD? The mk2 GTI was hugely popular in the UK though and VW couldn't be arsed to make the G60 RHD so it's anybody's guess.
Anyway, back to the GTI; seems like £900 is being mooted which I guess isn't bad for big brakes and the trick diff fully supported by warranty. Unless we get sceptical here too and find out most of the diff features and the extra 10bhp can be conned out of the ECU via VCDS anyway?
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And for those that say the mk7 looks like the mk6: http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/vw-to-create-separate-identities/264011
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Sorry but that red stripe is shocking!!!!
Jim
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Notice how they've moved away from the floor-hinged go-faster pedal too.
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Notice how they've moved away from the floor-hinged go-faster pedal too.
Well spotted.
Good riddance too. Never liked it in the mk5 and still don't like it on the two mk6s I've had. Every mk6 I've driven has the same problem, you need to push the pedal down too far to actually get the car to move making it feel very unresponsive. Fine if you only drive one car and get used to it but rubbish if like me you drive all sorts of different vehicles day in and day out. I cured it by fitting a Sprint Booster but that really shouldn't be necessary; a sporty car should drive like a sporty car. Hopefully the Sport Pack in the mk7 will cure this issue once and for all as it is bound to feature a bit of tuning on the electronics to make it feel more sporty.
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There is something just not right about the red lines on the lights.
They are obviously trying to run the red from the grille to the upper part of the bumper panel. This makes the line look squint to me.
I wonder if running the line parallel along the bottom of the light may have worked?
(http://www.contracthireandleasing.com/cms-images/VW-Golf-GTI2.jpg)
With it being a concept, how likley do we think it is that it will have the line into the lights? I'm not sure tbh, i quite like it but think i'd have prefered to have 2 lines again.
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"Interesting to hear that there may not be an R in RHD guise thanks to the unpopularity of the model in the UK, as obviously VW are surprised that not many people can afford to blow £35k+ on a shopping car"
This made me chuckle but the fact that VW finds it surprising that nobody's buying them at that price in these economic times just astonishes me. At what point do you they'll realise they're taking the mick?
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Another report from gay Paris by Evo mag: http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/286729/updated_vw_golf_gti_revealed_at_the_paris_motor_show.html
Anyway, back to the GTI; seems like £900 is being mooted which I guess isn't bad for big brakes and the trick diff fully supported by warranty. Unless we get sceptical here too and find out most of the diff features and the extra 10bhp can be conned out of the ECU via VCDS anyway?
Who wants to bet the standard model comes with the existing 312mm discs and the "performance" model comes with the R32 345mm discs? Which are effective but very HEAVY.
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Another report from gay Paris by Evo mag: http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/286729/updated_vw_golf_gti_revealed_at_the_paris_motor_show.html
Anyway, back to the GTI; seems like £900 is being mooted which I guess isn't bad for big brakes and the trick diff fully supported by warranty. Unless we get sceptical here too and find out most of the diff features and the extra 10bhp can be conned out of the ECU via VCDS anyway?
Who wants to bet the standard model comes with the existing 312mm discs and the "performance" model comes with the R32 345mm discs? Which are effective but very HEAVY.
That will be the likely scenario unless the MQB uses slightly different hubs and possibly lighter brakes (and thus the new R, Cupra and S3 will also have them). The Leon Cupra always had the 245mm brakes @ 240bhp. Interesting to note that some of the mk7 GTIs on show had the little side bumper splitters and some didn't so we will have to assume the Sport Pack will have these. Again though, we can but speculate as the show car is only supposed to be a production viable design study.
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Another report from gay Paris by Evo mag: http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/286729/updated_vw_golf_gti_revealed_at_the_paris_motor_show.html
Anyway, back to the GTI; seems like £900 is being mooted which I guess isn't bad for big brakes and the trick diff fully supported by warranty. Unless we get sceptical here too and find out most of the diff features and the extra 10bhp can be conned out of the ECU via VCDS anyway?
Who wants to bet the standard model comes with the existing 312mm discs and the "performance" model comes with the R32 345mm discs? Which are effective but very HEAVY.
Who wants to bet the gti won't even be 50kg lighter than the current model after the reports of it being around 100kg lighter.
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In one of the articles i'm sure it said it'll have 17" discs?! :grin: erm... Doubtful methinks :shocked:
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I think it the euro convention of mentioning the disk size as relating to the minimum wheel it will fit in, not the actual disk size. IE min wheels size for those disks and brakes would be 17". 17" disks would be humungous!
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Another report from gay Paris by Evo mag: http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/286729/updated_vw_golf_gti_revealed_at_the_paris_motor_show.html
Anyway, back to the GTI; seems like £900 is being mooted which I guess isn't bad for big brakes and the trick diff fully supported by warranty. Unless we get sceptical here too and find out most of the diff features and the extra 10bhp can be conned out of the ECU via VCDS anyway?
Who wants to bet the standard model comes with the existing 312mm discs and the "performance" model comes with the R32 345mm discs? Which are effective but very HEAVY.
Who wants to bet the gti won't even be 50kg lighter than the current model after the reports of it being around 100kg lighter.
Found in another thread
Current figures are very disappointing (copied from another forum). If correct the Golf has more steel versus aluminium compared to the new A3.
The 75-100Kg weight savings have evaporated into much less (unless the kit has significantly improved).
MK-7
1.2 85PS 1205 (5-speed manual) 24KG saving
1.4 140PS 1270 (6-speed manual) 20KG saving
1.6 105PS 1295 (5-speed manual) 19KG saving
MK-6
1.2 85PS 1229 (5-speed manual)
1.4 122PS 1290 (6-speed manual)
1.6 105PS 1314 (5-speed manual)
Sources
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/golf-vi/which-model/engines/overview
http://www.volkswagen.de/content/medialib/vwd4/de/dialog/pdf/golf-a7/preisliste/_jcr_content/renditions/rendition.download_attachment.file/golf_preisliste.pdf
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One quick point if you buy Autocar with week (26 Sep) its got a full A3 TDI Sport review.
They claim the 18" wheels are flow formed and weigh no more compared to the 17" wheels.
What is flow forming?
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Prices and specs of lowlier models out today.
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/Industry-News/VW-Golf-2012---prices-for-new-Mk7-Golf-from-16330/
I may be able to tolerate a Mkkkkk7 after all if it's a similar price to the Mk6 but all the extras I had on mine (18 inch alloys, cruise control, folding mirrors) are included in the price as they seem to be on the GT spec.
Having said that, knowing VW, they'll take all that lot out for some spurious reason and make us all pay for them as extras!!!
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I had a quick compare with the MK6 price list and http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/2013-vw-golf-prices-revealed/264034
Prices have gone up or down by £300-£400 BUT trim is different, the lower priced S model looks better value with DAB and iPod and the more expensive GT get electric mirrors.
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I had a quick compare with the MK6 price list and http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/2013-vw-golf-prices-revealed/264034
Prices have gone up or down by £300-£400 BUT trim is different, the lower priced S model looks better value with DAB and iPod and the more expensive GT get electric mirrors.
but probably no/very little discount compared to the MK6 (at the beginning anyway)
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Pretty disappointed with the weight savings.
Might wait for the Audi S3 and see what spec that comes with / price / any discounts -just not a fan of the pop up screen
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I had a quick compare with the MK6 price list and http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/2013-vw-golf-prices-revealed/264034
Prices have gone up or down by £300-£400 BUT trim is different, the lower priced S model looks better value with DAB and iPod and the more expensive GT get electric mirrors.
but probably no/very little discount compared to the MK6 (at the beginning anyway)
True, the best news is the GT gets Nav which saves you the £1700
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I had a quick compare with the MK6 price list and http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/2013-vw-golf-prices-revealed/264034
Prices have gone up or down by £300-£400 BUT trim is different, the lower priced S model looks better value with DAB and iPod and the more expensive GT get electric mirrors.
but probably no/very little discount compared to the MK6 (at the beginning anyway)
True, the best news is the GT gets Nav which saves you the £1700
It's probably only a very basic nav unit like that fitted to the Passat CC or current Leon that incorporates DAB and Bluetooth but doesn't have the big hard drive of the RNS 510
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True you will have to pay to upgrade to the 8.5 inch 64gb nav unit.
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/66274_497467773605118_1624428539_n.jpg)
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That looks nice Sam :)
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I wasnt sure if pics had been seen of the gti yet and these just flew up on fb so thought I may as well post em :undecided:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/580243_497469376938291_2145857348_n.jpg)
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That would look great with two less doors and black mirror caps.
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I must be the only one who thinks that colour doesn't suits the GTI, i saw it on the mk5 and didn't like it yet i like it on the R's and R32's. The red stripe with the blue doesn't help for a start but there's always been something about it on GTI's i can't put my finger on.
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I must be the only one who thinks that colour doesn't suits the GTI, i saw it on the mk5 and didn't like it yet i like it on the R's and R32's. The red stripe with the blue doesn't help for a start but there's always been something about it on GTI's i can't put my finger on.
Yup, i think you might be the only one... :lipsrsealed:
But probably not.
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Love that blue colour, looks sweet! More door for the win :smiley:
The red line across the headlights make it stand out, you would defo know that was a GTI overtaking you...
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UK brochure for normals models is out
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/assets/common/pdf/brochures/golf-vii-brochure.pdf
Disappointing weight savings compared to the six.
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I must be the only one who thinks that colour doesn't suits the GTI, i saw it on the mk5 and didn't like it yet i like it on the R's and R32's. The red stripe with the blue doesn't help for a start but there's always been something about it on GTI's i can't put my finger on.
Yup, i think you might be the only one... :lipsrsealed:
But probably not.
Depends what it looks like in real life. If its more like the mk4 R32 or mk5 GTI or the later mk5 R32 or even the Mk6 R shades of blue im not a fan. I always liked them in photos but not in real life.. If its darker than those as shown in the past couple of photos then i probably will like the colour. I also agree in photos the blue with red line does not work at all but in real life its fine imo.