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General => General discussion => Topic started by: scarr89 on 01 October 2011, 18:03
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Just been for a drive in my mates Honda...I have a PD engine, and want it to sound like the Vtec engine...how do able you reckon this would be?
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Buy a vtec lol there is no way of making your car sound like a vtec,I had a Honda prelude 2.2 vtec a few months ago and that sounded mint in vtec and there good for 8000 rpm, it can get boring after abit tho I just love my vr6 as it's a big fat lazy v6 and it pulls any gear any rev where vtec you have to rag the sh!t out of them to get anywhere
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Just been for a drive in my mates Honda...I have a PD engine, and want it to sound like the Vtec engine...how do able you reckon this would be?
You being serious? You want your diesel which runs out of puff at 5000rpm to sound like a Vtec which doesn't get going until 5500rpm, no chance :laugh:
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You being serious? You want your diesel which runs out of puff at 5000rpm to sound like a Vtec which doesn't get going until 5500rpm, no chance :laugh:
This.
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Best question of the year so far.
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LOL at Q. VTEC's another type of engine. I have an EK9 as well as a MK5 GTI and the difference is night and day. Golf pulls hard from low and is good till around 6K RPM. EK9 pulls crap till around 6K when VTEC kicks in and then all he'll brakes loose. An amazing engine
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not a fan of the vtech. All hype :tongue:
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Ignore all the above.... Seek help.
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i like to laugh at the V Tech boys... like they used to laugh at me when mine was a 8v
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Vtec is like waiting for bad sex...
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if you drive a pd engined car anything else sounds good
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It's an intense noise I reckon. All of the banter in previous posts will only spur me on to try and make my diesel sound like a vtec :laugh:
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im sorry i had to send this to a few mates, fookin funny surely this blokes not serious :grin:
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im sorry i had to send this to a few mates, fookin funny surely this blokes not serious :grin:
I hope your not serious with that comment :wink:
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im sorry i had to send this to a few mates, fookin funny surely this blokes not serious :grin:
I hope your not serious with that comment :wink:
You went full retard
That is all
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It's an intense noise I reckon. All of the banter in previous posts will only spur me on to try and make my diesel sound like a vtec :laugh:
Let us know how that goes. :grin:
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pay this guy to sit in your boot?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No_kbFvG_S4
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Best thread of the year for sure.
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In true porno style:
"REV REV REV REV REV REV REV OH OH OH OH OH OH OH OHHHHHHH ohhhhhh :'("
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set up an oil feed into the turbo, make sure it goes to the inlet and not wasted down the exhaust, once it spools up, you should be easily able to get 10,000 rpm.
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The theory I understand but it seems too much hard work for a road car. For track cars and racing cars I completely understand but to have the power band so far up the rev range seems a bit daft for everday use.
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Drop a vtec into you're current shell, just be prepared to baffle the stealers when you book it in for a service :wink:
Good thread though :grin:
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pay this guy to sit in your boot?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No_kbFvG_S4
haha,,, mint... :grin:
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The theory I understand but it seems too much hard work for a road car. For track cars and racing cars I completely understand but to have the power band so far up the rev range seems a bit daft for everday use.
Perfct for everyday use as it pootles around all day every day at low revs and is more fuel efficient. Then when you want to let loose you kick it down a LEAST one gear and hit themis pedal and as for nothing till 6000rpm?? What? They kick from around 4800 and best change up at around 7600 :wink:
And Kells, Type-R standard against modded mk3 golf....boat engine conversions don't worry the Honda boys...they still wouldn't be deemed a tugboat :tongue:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFrAIJDVxxs&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFrAIJDVxxs&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
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pay this guy to sit in your boot?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No_kbFvG_S4
So there is a way! Great vid!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfToIocVpyQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfToIocVpyQ) :lipsrsealed:
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Can't deny VTEC sounds so good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx3n2XXWjy0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx3n2XXWjy0)
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vtec sounds great in a tunnel. Its more usable than people think, they arnt completely gutless under 5k, i was dreading it when i got my civic but its more than usable as a daily.
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The theory I understand but it seems too much hard work
And Kells, Type-R standard against modded mk3 golf....boat engine conversions don't worry the Honda boys...they still wouldn't be deemed a tugboat :tongue:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFrAIJDVxxs&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFrAIJDVxxs&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Would not waste fuel on standard type R lol
One I did smoke tho was one of the better ones. a R reg White import only type R. Was at the lights and then into the mad mile which is a great stretch. Smoked it at the lights and left it for dead. His was modified as we stopped to admire each others cars. He freely admitted he had no chance of catching me and thought mine was just a 8v that he would easily embarrass haha :evil:
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Can't deny VTEC sounds so good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx3n2XXWjy0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx3n2XXWjy0)
vtec kicked in yo!
do miss my old type R
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My mate has a CRX with a Vtech in..... its horrible, the noise is just plain silly - kinda remeinded me of a moped going up hill.
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glad to see that I aint the only one that thinks they sound sh!t.....
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Mine sounded good!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em6ffFsWti4
:cool:
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My flatmates ATR it sounds amazing. Mapped and the vtec is brutal.
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/247656_10150210254274785_509964784_6757608_1359926_n.jpg)
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Mine sounded good!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em6ffFsWti4
:cool:
mediocre if im honest
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It was filmed on iphone (without video, i had it jailbroken) so not bad
Not quite R32, but its still an engine noise rather than exhaust noise (as with most 2.0 4 pots)
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It was filmed on iphone (without video, i had it jailbroken) so not bad
Not quite R32, but its still an engine noise rather than exhaust noise (as with most 2.0 4 pots)
2.0's just dont do it for me unfortunately... :undecided:
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Need tegiwa + Spoon. Sound good.
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dont like the sound, or the fact you have to thrap it to go down a dual carriageway.
great when you want to dust off the joyriding boots though :lipsrsealed: :rolleyes:
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It was filmed on iphone (without video, i had it jailbroken) so not bad
Not quite R32, but its still an engine noise rather than exhaust noise (as with most 2.0 4 pots)
2.0's just dont do it for me unfortunately... :undecided:
Not been in an R32 but guess the noise would be ace as my VR6 with some mods sounds fantastic :smiley:
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Classic thread this :grin: :grin:
Would not waste fuel on standard type R lol
One I did smoke tho was one of the better ones. a R reg White import only type R. Was at the lights and then into the mad mile which is a great stretch. Smoked it at the lights and left it for dead. His was modified as we stopped to admire each others cars. He freely admitted he had no chance of catching me and thought mine was just a 8v that he would easily embarrass haha :evil:
that would be a EK9 which is a 1.6 vtec with 189bhp standard and and 2lb/ft :grin: even if it was modded it wouldn't be much more than 200bhp unless it was supercharged then you wouldn't stand a chance in hell.
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Vtec - all that lag & no turbo. Its like waiting for bad sex...
The honda children round me all run straight through systems and brap round on vtec all night long, makes me sad....
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vtec is only a switch that turns the intresting cam on at the end of the day.
laughing gas is much more fun
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I've grown up with my dad always having Honda's. As a kid VTEC was the coolest thing in the world. I used to love listening to the revs building wondering when the engine was going to suddenly erupt from underneath the bonnet.
I have to admit that the FN2 Civic Type R (Championship White Edition) is amongst one of my favourite cars of all time. It may not be the fastest type R, or the lightest, or the most pretty... but for me it's everything I've always remembered about Type R's.
(If only it had been lighter and a bit more powerful :cry:... just an extra 20-30hp)
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Would not waste fuel on standard type R lol
One I did smoke tho was one of the better ones. a R reg White import only type R. Was at the lights and then into the mad mile which is a great stretch. Smoked it at the lights and left it for dead. His was modified as we stopped to admire each others cars. He freely admitted he had no chance of catching me and thought mine was just a 8v that he would easily embarrass haha :evil:
Yours is highly modded though
A supercharged type r (you can pick them up for £5k) will be pushing 300bhp and weighs around 1200KG. Will own most things once rolling. I wouldnt waste my fuel on one as i would get owned!
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Glad some of you agree. Vtech is bullsh1t!
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VW 6 cylinder engine noises = :cool:
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Vtec (not vtech) as in Variable valve Timing and Electronic lift Control
When you are driving the car hard on a B road the revs stay high and so no lag at all, just lots more revs left for the corner and exit.
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Stick a lawn mover in the boot, and rev the tits off it... et voila!
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the really anoying thing is, ive never really been interested that much into vtecs untill this thread came up and now i want one :lipsrsealed: :laugh:
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the really anoying thing is, ive never really been interested that much into vtecs untill this thread came up and now i want one :lipsrsealed: :laugh:
if this thread alone makes you want a vtec then you really need to get out more
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why would someone choose vtec over boost?!
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why would someone choose vtec over boost?!
It feels like boost! Well...kind of like boost.
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i quite like the idea of a vtec'd mk2 :lipsrsealed: the s2000 one has 240bhp as standard! :cool:
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maybe in a massivly laggy car with a turbo the size of a snail!
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I've always said this, after driving a few, and thinking... what is the big deal about v-tec? Doesn't even sound nice or move that fast, just tinny :rolleyes:
Over hyped jap crap :tongue:
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maybe in a massivly laggy car with a turbo the size of a snail!
its a 2l na
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Kid next door to me has just brought a civic type r 04reg. Very nice looker, love them wheels :cool:. He took me for a spin and wanted to give
me a race in my mk2. :smiley:
Its got some Mugen air intake thingy and some mugen socks over the brake and pas bottles :grin:
He cant drive his type r properly because he is constantly bouncing on the rev limiter, but if he does learn how to harness the VTEC
power, what are my chances of beating him (private track of course) next year because ive sorn the mk2 until next spring.
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If your car is standard he will rape you.
The mugen induction kit is £600 new, he did well. If he gets KPRO and an exhaust he will have around 230bhp also, most likely 210 with the induction kit as it is (an extra 5bhp maybe with the socks lol)
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id like to see a mk2 or 3 with a k20 swap, or even h22a that should be fun,
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If your car is standard he will rape you.
The mugen induction kit is £600 new, he did well. If he gets KPRO and an exhaust he will have around 230bhp also, most likely 210 with the induction kit as it is (an extra 5bhp maybe with the socks lol)
He said he was given recipts for the induction kit, and it was fitted at the dealers.
It didnt seem that quick compared to mine, but like i say he wasnt changing gear quick enough and holding on the limiter too long.
whats KPRO? his exhaust was standard.
with that many horses I will hide when i tax my car next year then :laugh:
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just missed 15minutes off gone in 60 seconds reading this thread :rolleyes:
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KPRO is pre mapped ECU that raises the rev limit and adds a little power (i do mean little as its N/A and its silly money, like £700!)
My old cars graph (induction kit, exhaust and KPRO) The RR is usually under most others, same mod cars get over 230bhp on places like JKM.
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/16042008164.jpg)
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maybe in a massivly laggy car with a turbo the size of a snail!
its a 2l na
i was replying to the post above yours, my bad
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I'm more a fan of a flat four burble... Yummy.
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I went in a friends Civic Coupe, not sure what was under the bonnet all i could see was this fat turbo. With that and the Vtec i thought my face was going to melt! :grin: :grin:
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IMO civics are even uglier than mk3s.
Just sayin...
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Well, hondas in general.
And vtecs sound broken.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOD4X1H7hEg&feature=related
Vtec y0.
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So much hate :grin:
Its the same on Honda forums for vw's. Personally i like both.
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The EP3 Type R, which ran alongside the Mk4 model golf is no contest 0-60. The Civic is fastest simple. According to Parkers stats the Type R is the same 0-60 as the Mk4 R32. The Type R has 1.2litres less and is still N/A.
The problem as the hate says is that with no turbo, accelerating from moving isnt as great as there is less torque than the 3.2 R32 or the turbo GTI. Thats where it looses out.
As years have gone on, the civic has stayed standing still with the FN2 Type R getting no more power.
The GTI golf came on a bit with the Mk5/6 with more power unlike the civic.
Few Parkers stats
Mk4 1.8t - 0-60 - 8.2secs
mk4 1.8t Ani - 0-60 - 7.6secs
Mk R32 - 0-60 - 6.4secs
EP3 Type R - 0-60 - 6.4secs
All depends what you fancy really...
Ive had a mk3 gti..... An Ep3 Type R..... And i will probably come back to a GTI/R32.
Haters guna? Right?
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Live dyno mapping of the Honda Vtech system, I dont know much about the engine I just help in regards to the fuel and spark advance tuning.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/th_IMG_2019.jpg) (http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/?action=view¤t=IMG_2019.mp4)
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^^^ i hope that poor little kitty made it out of the engine ok
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The EK9 is identical to the EP3 regarding 0-60. The stats for the 0-60 was claimed by Honda when they released it but not a single mag or test has recreated it.
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On the isle of wight all you can hear night time is tinny wasp sounding all look like your grandads car civics going up and down the duel.
I sit there thinking " for f**k sake, just change up" while they bounce it off the limiter in every gear.
Would p*ss me right off being inside one of those listening to that s*it screaming like a 2 stroke.
Raced one before while i was driving the mrs fiesta st. Could nt hear nothing with all that noise next to me doing no better than the fiesta. I like noise from a car but that noise i hate with a passion.
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What? The island is full of dodgy wrx's driving every where with massive exhausts.
and lol at your fiesta st being as quick, you dont like em fine but dont talk sh!t. They sound like a 2.0 N/A running at high revs, they are just as quick as every other hatchback, the gearbox (one of the best in any car) allows the car to use every bit of power. I can gradually edge past a type R in a straight line and mine isnt slow.
The low price has let idiots buy them thinking they are very fast, they cant drive them and then move on. They require work and effort and so are extremely rewarding cars when you drive them properly. They are not made for gay dual races.
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Best question of the year so far.
+1
could not believe this thread when i seen it! brilliant!
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The low price has let idiots buy them thinking they are very fast, they cant drive them and then move on. They require work and effort and so are extremely rewarding cars when you drive them properly. They are not made for gay dual races.
No, I'm sure Type-Rs were only bought by really switched on people when they were new. :grin:
That explains why new Hondas seem to have a near-magnetic attraction to the Nurburgring barriers. :grin:
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That would be lift off over steer :grin:
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That would be lift off over steer :grin:
No, that would be the driver.
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I can gradually edge past a type R in a straight line and mine isnt slow.
Really ? ? :shocked:
Iv been up against a few.. no contest at all... would have thought yours would easily beat one.. like really easily...
Going to add here that i love the high revs of Jap cars and its what i grew up on. fantastic engines.. Iv had a CRX Vtec back in the day and it was good..
for me tho, the newer they get the less appeal they have to me. really like the shape Dan has, the White ones..had a duel with one of those and easily beat it.. tbh i mad fit look slow and the owner even said the same.. still love them tho.
The all new R Type is going to finally have a TURBO !!! and apparently be around the 210 bhp mark (Auto express)
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In a 2.0T lump I have seen them loose the LCR mk2 so easily, I'm confused why they whopping your a$$ :shocked:
Heavily modded they do keep up, but the LCR still wins with a map...
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Auto express are guessing, they have no idea. They were at the same convention as a mate that runs the CTRO forum and they said nothing of a new Type R, let along a turbo motor. No one knows.
The fact is a car thats a second slower to 60 is only going to be a car or two lengths behind by 60. Moving past a car at a very fast speed when accelerating from 30 to 80mph would require double the other cars horsepower at least. In the real world the difference is minimal. Over 50mph of distance i edged past the CTR. From stand still i edged past until i was a few car lengths ahead.
It is easy. Im not ragging it to the limit. But a 200bhp car that weight 1200KG is not going to be that much slower than a car that weighs about 1500kg with only 80bhp more.
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I can gradually edge past a type R in a straight line and mine isnt slow.
Really ? ? :shocked:
Iv been up against a few.. no contest at all... would have thought yours would easily beat one.. like really easily...
Going to add here that i love the high revs of Jap cars and its what i grew up on. fantastic engines.. Iv had a CRX Vtec back in the day and it was good..
for me tho, the newer they get the less appeal they have to me. really like the shape Dan has, the White ones..had a duel with one of those and easily beat it.. tbh i mad fit look slow and the owner even said the same.. still love them tho.
The all new R Type is going to finally have a TURBO !!! and apparently be around the 210 bhp mark (Auto express)
To be fair with the time and money put into your car and with only about 20% of the parts left being Mk3 Gti parts i would be gutted if it couldnt beat a Type R! Of course all of the mods on your car are not for speed...... lol ;)
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Its also modded vs standard, so a moot point.
You could buy and Supercharge/Turbo a ctr now for less than £8k which will give you 300BHP+ across an rpm range of 9000. There are ones already done for about £5k. Bargain performance!
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Its also modded vs standard, so a moot point.
You could buy and Supercharge/Turbo a ctr now for less than £8k which will give you 300BHP+ across an rpm range of 9000. There are ones already done for about £5k. Bargain performance!
yup and modded the chassis will be even more class...although they do sit quite nice as standard in terms of responsiveness...unlike a mk3 :evil: :grin:
still like a modded mk3 tho....got a soft spot nearly as soft as their standard suspension :embarassed: :laugh:
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You mean the chassis that got it round the top gear test track quicker than all the other hot hatches?
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/images.jpg)
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You mean the chassis that got it round the top gear test track quicker than all the other hot hatches?
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/images.jpg)
I think you may have missed the hot hatch in my sig.... which was quite a bit faster than most of those :rolleyes: :grin:
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I have sigs off, i presume you still have your r32 one?
If so yes, but a 3.2 V6 with 50bhp more and 4wd should be quicker really :laugh:
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I have sigs off, i presume you still have your r32 one?
If so yes, but a 3.2 V6 with 50bhp more and 4wd should be quicker really :laugh:
more than 2 sec quicker with alot more weight also... I would say the Golf chassis is every bit as good as the civic! :cool:
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Yes, but the Mk5 golf should be compared to the FN2 shape really. The EP3 is nearly 10 years old!
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Yes, but the Mk5 golf should be compared to the FN2 shape really. The EP3 is nearly 10 years old!
The MK5 came out in 2004. The EP3 came out in 2001. Only three years difference
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Yes, but the Mk5 golf should be compared to the FN2 shape really. The EP3 is nearly 10 years old!
The MK5 came out in 2004. The EP3 came out in 2001. Only three years difference
The FN2 model only came out in 2006, 2 years later than the MK5.
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Is that not over 200bhp out of a 2 ltr lump though? what does that big old hunk of 3.2 churn? 240? 250? you would of thought they would of pumped at least 300+ out of it.
It was filmed on iphone (without video, i had it jailbroken) so not bad
Not quite R32, but its still an engine noise rather than exhaust noise (as with most 2.0 4 pots)
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Is that not over 200bhp out of a 2 ltr lump though? what does that big old hunk of 3.2 churn? 240? 250? you would of thought they would of pumped at least 300+ out of it.
It was filmed on iphone (without video, i had it jailbroken) so not bad
Not quite R32, but its still an engine noise rather than exhaust noise (as with most 2.0 4 pots)
For some reason VW kept the 3.2 under tuned but around 250bhp depending on the model, its biggest downfall, should have had 300bhp!