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An aircraft scheduled to be tested by the Pentagon on Thursday is capable of reaching speeds of up to 13,000mph, or 3.6 miles a second.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/us-to-test-fastest-aircraft-ever-moves-at-13000mph/
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An aircraft scheduled to be tested by the Pentagon on Thursday is capable of reaching speeds of up to 13,000mph, or 3.6 miles a second.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/us-to-test-fastest-aircraft-ever-moves-at-13000mph/
That's almost as fast as my bike :shocked:
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http://www.darpa.mil/NewsEvents/Releases/2011/2011/08/11DARPA_HYPERSONIC_VEHICLE_ADVANCES_TECHNICAL_KNOWLEDGE.aspx
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Not Aurora then! :lipsrsealed:
Thom
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Flight of the navigator.
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no match for 8v power
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no match for 8v power
What's that? 8v and power in the same sentence? :grin:
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And it disapeared not long after it launched, same as the HTV-1 launched in April.
It might be the U.S military playing games with the Chinese. As in giving them something to think about, if there's something above them but can't detect.
Or it may just be that Lokheed Martin screwed up, twice.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14497641
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Oops! :embarassed:
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if they are making this public... imagine what they're testing that they aren't making public? :lipsrsealed:
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Exactly, stuff we can't even begin to comprehend no doubt.
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if they are making this public... imagine what they're testing that they aren't making public? :lipsrsealed:
Nah, thats all they got
They need to scare the chinese as much as they can
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if they are making this public... imagine what they're testing that they aren't making public? :lipsrsealed:
Nah, thats all they got
They need to scare the chinese as much as they can
In my opinion, this is just mind games with the chinese. Convenient how both of the prototypes lost contact and self terminated. I think it's to scare everyone about the tools they have available, a bit like the cold war.
As Guy said, this *should* be strictly confidential stuff only known to US government but they're broadcasting it? I'm sure behind the scenes somewhere secret there's stuff being developed and tested that we can only imagine seeing in terminator, harry potter (Invisible cape) and star wars. There was a rumour a while back that the US government had developed and tested an invisibility device. The trick is to make the light bend around it, thus making it invisible. The device was only capable of making an object the size of a grain of sand invisible, but the fact that they got as far as making a grain of sand invisible is enough proof that with time there will be tanks roaming around in foreign countries completely invisible to enemies.
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Pointless seeing as you would just need a thermal detecting device to spot it.
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Pointless seeing as you would just need a thermal detecting device to spot it.
Yeh, but you wouldn't know where to point ther thermal detector in the first place :grin:
I remember reading somewhere a while back that it generally takes military technology about 20 years to filter down to consumer level. So the technology in todays 'cutting edge' gadgets etc was actually being originally developed back in the 90s!
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At the large rumbling noise where trees etc are being flattened :laugh:
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I doubt very much the Chinese are worried in any way about this. The chinese launched an anti satellite missile in 2007. That put the willies up the US more than anything. No matter how sophisticated the US armed forces are, knock out their satellites and they're fecked.
They have also developed an aircraft carrier killing missile. Whoa!
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/worlds-fastest-plane-designed-us-military-112431862.html
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I doubt very much the Chinese are worried in any way about this. The chinese launched an anti satellite missile in 2007. That put the willies up the US more than anything. No matter how sophisticated the US armed forces are, knock out their satellites and they're fecked.
They have also developed an aircraft carrier killing missile. Whoa!
Agreed. Plus the Americans aren't really that intelligent enough anyway.
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Pointless seeing as you would just need a thermal detecting device to spot it.
Yeh, but you wouldn't know where to point ther thermal detector in the first place :grin:
I remember reading somewhere a while back that it generally takes military technology about 20 years to filter down to consumer level. So the technology in todays 'cutting edge' gadgets etc was actually being originally developed back in the 90s!
The rafs new typhoon started being designed in the 80's. It was prototype flying in the 90's.
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I doubt very much the Chinese are worried in any way about this. The chinese launched an anti satellite missile in 2007. That put the willies up the US more than anything. No matter how sophisticated the US armed forces are, knock out their satellites and they're fecked.
They have also developed an aircraft carrier killing missile. Whoa!
Ummm Exocet, Falklands War? :rolleyes:
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I think your all quite wide of the mark tbh. Militarys don't have the budget or expertise to develop something like this. Only likely expertise would come from lockhead, boing or NASA, and NASA have been pretty much scrapped with cuts, and again, expenditure would be too much to outsource to any company relient on profit. Just propaganda to try and fool the Chinese pubic into thinking they are still the global leaders in technology. China, who are the global leaders in technology on the other hand, could afford a venture like this due to it being a military run country anyway.
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I think your all quite wide of the mark tbh. Militarys don't have the budget or expertise to develop something like this. Only likely expertise would come from lockhead
Who?
....boing
Who?
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£10 says they have these up and running
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Lockheed
Boeing
:rolleyes:
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£10 says they have these up and running
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The chinese had those in the 80s.
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Boing lol
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if they are making this public... imagine what they're testing that they aren't making public? :lipsrsealed:
Nah, thats all they got
They need to scare the chinese as much as they can
In my opinion, this is just mind games with the chinese. Convenient how both of the prototypes lost contact and self terminated. I think it's to scare everyone about the tools they have available, a bit like the cold war.
As Guy said, this *should* be strictly confidential stuff only known to US government but they're broadcasting it? I'm sure behind the scenes somewhere secret there's stuff being developed and tested that we can only imagine seeing in terminator, harry potter (Invisible cape) and star wars. There was a rumour a while back that the US government had developed and tested an invisibility device. The trick is to make the light bend around it, thus making it invisible. The device was only capable of making an object the size of a grain of sand invisible, but the fact that they got as far as making a grain of sand invisible is enough proof that with time there will be tanks roaming around in foreign countries completely invisible to enemies.
I think they forgot their glasses at home that day :grin:
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Boing lol
We're all quite wide of the mark too don't you know..... :grin:
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Lolz at everyone being a Military R&D specialist all of a sudden.
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Lolz at everyone being a Military R&D specialist all of a sudden.
Lol yes.
And you can tell that's what people here are because of?
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Ummm Exocet, Falklands War? :rolleyes
Chalk and cheese Len.
The Exocet was designed for hitting small ships. The Chinese DF-21d is a big can of whoop ass better.
The Exocet is 4.7m long, weighs about 670kg and carries a single 165 kg warhead. It skims the surface of the sea and has a range of 40 miles. It would take 10's of these to take down a carrier, but thats provided the launching aircraft/ship get close enough to do so. :rolleyes:
The DF-21d is a ballistic missile, an ASBM. Same type of missile as trident.
It is 10m long, weighs about 14.5 tonnes and carries multiple warheads. It has a range of 900 miles. Unlike the Exocet, it is land launched and goes up into the atmosphere, before descending onto target. Even the US hasn't got a guidance system sophisticated enough to do this, but apparently the Chinese have.
Now that's a big can of whoop ass right there.
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I'm putting on my tin foil hat, it's all aliens I tell thee.
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I'm putting on my tin foil hat, it's all aliens I tell thee.
Only sensible thing that has bee said in this thread!
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I'm putting on my tin foil hat, it's all aliens I tell thee.
Only sensible thing that has bee said in this thread!
You military r&d experts! :shocked:
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Ummm Exocet, Falklands War? :rolleyes
Chalk and cheese Len.
The Exocet was designed for hitting small ships. The Chinese DF-21d is a big can of whoop ass better.
The Exocet is 4.7m long, weighs about 670kg and carries a single 165 kg warhead. It skims the surface of the sea and has a range of 40 miles. It would take 10's of these to take down a carrier, but thats provided the launching aircraft/ship get close enough to do so. :rolleyes:
The DF-21d is a ballistic missile, an ASBM. Same type of missile as trident.
It is 10m long, weighs about 14.5 tonnes and carries multiple warheads. It has a range of 900 miles. Unlike the Exocet, it is land launched and goes up into the atmosphere, before descending onto target. Even the US hasn't got a guidance system sophisticated enough to do this, but apparently the Chinese have.
Now that's a big can of whoop ass right there.
Without checking HMS Sheffield I think it was wasnt exactly a small ship!
Not quite but nearly as big as a modern aircraft carrier!
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Yeah ok was using my phone! I am military by the way, and a weapon engineer, so I know a little more than most. :tongue:
The size of exocet is not all that, same as Harpoon, designed for the same thing pretty much, with harpoon having a range a little more. (70 - 120 miles dependant on movement whilst in the air. (It turns a pre-programmed co-ordinates before coming onto the contact from whichever side or from above). Trident is bigger but again, a single missile wont sink a carrier. None of these would, but the fires/floods/damage they caused by them can. A hole in the side of a ship with an explosion contained in a smallish area (all doors and hatches would be closed if in any situation where they are likely to be fired at you), is not gonna sink a ship, let alone an aircraft carrier. Loss of salt water fire main, with raging fires will though. And anymore than 1 missile would be too much also. Its actually quite difficult to get through with one or two missiles in a reasonably modern warship, with Chaff - no not chuff, DLB (acronym for a big radar reflective orange ball), and Phalanx or goalkeeper (phalanx being an american designed 6 barrel, radar aided self defence gun, capable of 3700 rounds per minute. Goalkeeper a Dutch designed gun of the same thing with 7 barrels, and is more intelligent. Can track up to 20 targets simultaniously, and prioritise which will hit first, second, third etc and take them out with 3 second bursts of 4200 rounds of 30mm per minute. (70 per second). Thats a Feck load of lead in the way! Oh and there is also a 4.5 inch Gun, seawolf, seadart, and seaviper depending on type of ship, as well as miniguns, and GPMGs, 20mm or 30mm gatling guns on the upperdeck. 4.5 is quite accurate, directed by geopod which manually tracks incoming targets by sight during the day, or by IR at night. People on the upperdeck with the guns are obviously pretty unlikely to hit a missile coming directly at you at mach 1,2,3 etc, but may get lucky, although the rate of fire of the minigun is pretty impressive also. (cant remember the exact rate of fire, something around 2k rounds per minute I think).
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Lolz at everyone being a Military R&D specialist all of a sudden.
Lol yes.
And you can tell that's what people here are because of?
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An armourer isn't an engineer :tongue:
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Lolz at everyone being a Military R&D specialist all of a sudden.
Lol yes.
And you can tell that's what people here are because of?
(http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Sarcasm-sarcasm-343354_480_384.jpg)
Where's the attempt at saving face motivational poster when you need one :grin:
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Have another breakfast!
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Have another breakfast!
Mmmm, sausages!
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Ummm Exocet, Falklands War? :rolleyes
Chalk and cheese Len.
The Exocet was designed for hitting small ships. The Chinese DF-21d is a big can of whoop ass better.
The Exocet is 4.7m long, weighs about 670kg and carries a single 165 kg warhead. It skims the surface of the sea and has a range of 40 miles. It would take 10's of these to take down a carrier, but thats provided the launching aircraft/ship get close enough to do so. :rolleyes:
The DF-21d is a ballistic missile, an ASBM. Same type of missile as trident.
It is 10m long, weighs about 14.5 tonnes and carries multiple warheads. It has a range of 900 miles. Unlike the Exocet, it is land launched and goes up into the atmosphere, before descending onto target. Even the US hasn't got a guidance system sophisticated enough to do this, but apparently the Chinese have.
Now that's a big can of whoop ass right there.
The Chinese must have copied it from somewhere as they cant design on their own :lipsrsealed:
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Ummm Exocet, Falklands War? :rolleyes
Chalk and cheese Len.
The Exocet was designed for hitting small ships. The Chinese DF-21d is a big can of whoop ass better.
The Exocet is 4.7m long, weighs about 670kg and carries a single 165 kg warhead. It skims the surface of the sea and has a range of 40 miles. It would take 10's of these to take down a carrier, but thats provided the launching aircraft/ship get close enough to do so. :rolleyes:
The DF-21d is a ballistic missile, an ASBM. Same type of missile as trident.
It is 10m long, weighs about 14.5 tonnes and carries multiple warheads. It has a range of 900 miles. Unlike the Exocet, it is land launched and goes up into the atmosphere, before descending onto target. Even the US hasn't got a guidance system sophisticated enough to do this, but apparently the Chinese have.
Now that's a big can of whoop ass right there.
The Chinese must have copied it from somewhere as they cant design on their own :lipsrsealed:
Oh they bloody can.
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Like we did and NASA did using the Germans?
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Tomahawk, Patriot, and countless ICBM's developed in the 40/50/60's tell me that America has had this kind of ability for a long time.
Just look at the guided bombs and space missions for precise guidance systems.....
American strategy has been to use air power to take out shipping and other targets, Tomahawk and Harpoon are the only real dedicated anti ship missles the yanks have used.
If the Chinease have this weapon then the Americans have one or a defensive capability for it.
The American Military may be the butt of jokes because of the grunts on the ground, but never underestimate them or their ability to achieve.
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Tomahawk, Patriot, and countless ICBM's developed in the 40/50/60's tell me that America has had this kind of ability for a long time.
Just look at the guided bombs and space missions for precise guidance systems.....
American strategy has been to use air power to take out shipping and other targets, Tomahawk and Harpoon are the only real dedicated anti ship missles the yanks have used.
If the Chinease have this weapon then the Americans have one or a defensive capability for it.
The American Military may be the butt of jokes because of the grunts on the ground, but never underestimate them or their ability to achieve.
lol
they did very well in Iraq and Afghanistan didn't they, two third world countries and they are still there
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Tomahawk, Patriot, and countless ICBM's developed in the 40/50/60's tell me that America has had this kind of ability for a long time.
Just look at the guided bombs and space missions for precise guidance systems.....
Hmm.. :rolleyes: but not the ability to hit a tiny fast moving spec in a vast ocean, from space.
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Tomahawk, Patriot, and countless ICBM's developed in the 40/50/60's tell me that America has had this kind of ability for a long time.
Just look at the guided bombs and space missions for precise guidance systems.....
Hmm.. :rolleyes: but not the ability to hit a tiny fast moving spec in a vast ocean, from space.
Yeah granted but, if we found out about it last week when do you think the yanks crapped themselves? 5 years ago?
Seen a lot of stealth ships of late.......
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Tomahawk, Patriot, and countless ICBM's developed in the 40/50/60's tell me that America has had this kind of ability for a long time.
Just look at the guided bombs and space missions for precise guidance systems.....
American strategy has been to use air power to take out shipping and other targets, Tomahawk and Harpoon are the only real dedicated anti ship missles the yanks have used.
If the Chinease have this weapon then the Americans have one or a defensive capability for it.
The American Military may be the butt of jokes because of the grunts on the ground, but never underestimate them or their ability to achieve.
lol
they did very well in Iraq and Afghanistan didn't they, two third world countries and they are still there
Very hard to win a guerilla war without hitting civilians, look how quick they took out all of Iraqs standing army deserters or not, and the massed taliban and foriegn insurgents.
Name another at the time who could have done it in 92 and 2003, our boys were the next biggest back up and we only have 3 planes.
not saying you should respect or admire the US Military for what it does just how it does it
Quicker we are out it the better, need our troops in croydon :smiley:
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Tomahawk, Patriot, and countless ICBM's developed in the 40/50/60's tell me that America has had this kind of ability for a long time.
Just look at the guided bombs and space missions for precise guidance systems.....
American strategy has been to use air power to take out shipping and other targets, Tomahawk and Harpoon are the only real dedicated anti ship missles the yanks have used.
If the Chinease have this weapon then the Americans have one or a defensive capability for it.
The American Military may be the butt of jokes because of the grunts on the ground, but never underestimate them or their ability to achieve.
lol
they did very well in Iraq and Afghanistan didn't they, two third world countries and they are still there
Very hard to win a guerilla war without hitting civilians, look how quick they took out all of Iraqs standing army deserters or not, and the massed taliban and foriegn insurgents.
Name another at the time who could have done it in 92 and 2003, our boys were the next biggest back up and we only have 3 planes.
not saying you should respect or admire the US Military for what it does just how it does it
Quicker we are out it the better, need our troops in croydon :smiley:
Dont see how i can respect an army that takes 19 years of bombing iraq and still cant win
Afghanistan didnt even have an army yet they are still there
Think you watch too many movies
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Dont see how i can respect an army that takes 19 years of bombing iraq and still cant win
Please, define 'win'.
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Dont see how i can respect an army that takes 19 years of bombing iraq and still cant win
Please, define 'win'.
Read a dictionary
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Not been watching any movies, I keep myself informed.
I dont agree with the US military and their objectives but as a force you underestimate them at your peril.
No need to Insult me, I detest the situation as much as you.
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You military experts!
Right, off to play with my airfix USA planes and shoot some friendly targets....
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You military experts!
Right, off to play with my airfix USA planes and shoot some friendly targets....
Lol ive been playing Back to Bhagdad today and manged to call air in on my own guys 3 times :grin:
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You military experts!
Right, off to play with my airfix USA planes and shoot some friendly targets....
Lol ive been playing Back to Bhagdad today and manged to call air in on my own guys 3 times :grin:
That's the spirit, the American way!!!