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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: mrshaneyp on 25 May 2011, 15:48
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whats the stages you would go through on a 1.8 20vT to get it to the 250-260 bhp? would prices possibly in consideration?
thanks : )
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search function :grin: :cool:
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what year is it mate? what engine code? But ye what Kerrse said lol :wink:
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Search? Thought this was a forum for discussion, not a database only.
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Search? Thought this was a forum for discussion, not a database only.
Its been discussed hundreds of times already. If it was a new question then no one would have asked the OP to search
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Heres the answer I got when I asked this not long ago. I was asking for the AUM engine which is 150bhp standard with K03s turbo. Not sure about the AGU which is 180 standard but I guess its the same kinda stuff
How much work is needed to be done to an AUM to reach more than 255bhp? Asking as I'm choosing my cat and need either 195-255bhp or 256-325bhp
cheers :)
Ko3/k04RS hybrid turbo
3" MAF
380cc injectors
225lph fuel pump
Milltek Turbp back exhaust
THS Front mount intercooler
R-Tech Custom remap
This setup should flow enough for aroud 270bhp 270lbft.
OK cheers looks like I'm in no danger of getting anywhere near that then lol
The safe max I can push the AUM trubo is around 242bhp 275lbft by using a cylinder wetting strategy and dumping fuel in at the top end to keep componet temps down. This mapping will see 1.4/1.5bar peak boost peak and needs to be ran on V-power fuel.
Once map correct it will be just as QUICK as a the 225BHP TT with a stage1 remap due the the ares under the curves.
1.8T k03s R-Tech Live Custom Remap
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r80/Bertee1974/R%20Tech%2016th%20May%202011/R-Tech3.jpg)
http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/201820-a-story-in-two-stages/
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AGU standered is 150bhp k03
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Cheaper, easier and better to get a different car completely that has the correct parts as standard. For example a Seat LCR or Audi S3. Its a lot of money to do it all plus the handling will never be good enough to justify that power.....
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AGU standered is 150bhp k03
I stand corrected :P whats 180 then?
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anniversary is :smiley:
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Get the man version 1.8t which the leon cupra r has or the tt, the 225bhp monster :evil:
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AUQ 180hp i believe :smiley:
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AUQ 180hp i believe :smiley:
Yep AUQ is 180bhp fitted to Audi TT, Leon Cupra, Octavia RS and Golf mk4's.
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Dan Gti thanks! :) and ino but im just in love with golfs atm and if the power was possible would love to project one to it! thanks people! :)
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Search? Thought this was a forum for discussion, not a database only.
Its been discussed hundreds of times already. If it was a new question then no one would have asked the OP to search
If it wasn't for new people asking new questions to them,the place would be boring,really gripes me when people type "search function".How about being a little more helpful and perhaps post a link or two for the op to read!!!
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Search? Thought this was a forum for discussion, not a database only.
Its been discussed hundreds of times already. If it was a new question then no one would have asked the OP to search
If it wasn't for new people asking new questions to them,the place would be boring,really gripes me when people type "search function".How about being a little more helpful and perhaps post a link or two for the op to read!!!
Exactly. As if the question has been asked and answered many times over, then there should be no problem with answering the question.
Otherwise, make it a search only database, as somewhere along the lines, every issue people have with their golfs can be answered by using a search here, or elsewhere.
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+1 if there new and struggling post a link :smiley:
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End power is gonna be limited by your determination and budget. Badger5s ibiza is now over 400bhp -not sure how much now- and caneys TT has just had a new engine producing over 500bhp. That is stroked to 2.0 I beleive. Thats over on SCN.
Mine is just a simple turbo conversion producing about 350bhp.
So easier to work out your budget first and see what you can do with it!
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I think the post regardign R tech sums it up, theres a standard list whether you have AGU , AUM, AUQ ,BAM etc etc, that you need to buy to get your car to the correct power,, people telling you you can get 220 bhp from 150 hp standard with just a 007p and remap are talking crap, takes a fair bit of time and money to see that 250 bhp figure that everyone seems to crave !
Dan
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Search? Thought this was a forum for discussion, not a database only.
Its been discussed hundreds of times already. If it was a new question then no one would have asked the OP to search
If it wasn't for new people asking new questions to them,the place would be boring,really gripes me when people type "search function".How about being a little more helpful and perhaps post a link or two for the op to read!!!
Exactly. As if the question has been asked and answered many times over, then there should be no problem with answering the question.
Otherwise, make it a search only database, as somewhere along the lines, every issue people have with their golfs can be answered by using a search here, or elsewhere.
So where are your helpful links on the matter? :rolleyes:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=40194.0
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Gt2871rs for 400bhp :cool:
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Search? Thought this was a forum for discussion, not a database only.
Its been discussed hundreds of times already. If it was a new question then no one would have asked the OP to search
If it wasn't for new people asking new questions to them,the place would be boring,really gripes me when people type "search function".How about being a little more helpful and perhaps post a link or two for the op to read!!!
Exactly. As if the question has been asked and answered many times over, then there should be no problem with answering the question.
Otherwise, make it a search only database, as somewhere along the lines, every issue people have with their golfs can be answered by using a search here, or elsewhere.
So where are your helpful links on the matter? :rolleyes:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=40194.0
Well, I'm not the only person on this forum, plenty people know more than me about remaps, such as yourself, hence you beating me to posting a link.
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The bhp you are after is very easy to achieve and you can pick the parts up relatively cheap if your able to wait for them to come up on the forum or on the bay for a good price.. easiest way would be get you k03/s hybrid'd at somewhere like turbo dynamics or cr turbos etc.. but the best way is to replace with OEM parts that can handle that power this route would be the K04 turbo and manifold off the LCR or the S3 BAM or AMK or APY engine ?? if you fit this with supporting mods like a better intercooler.. colder spark plugs.. intake TIP.. few other bits and bobs you can easily see 260bhp.. if you get a donor engine its even better.. you can then strip all the better parts off like injectors coil packs etc..
HTH
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much thanks to the people providing useful posts :) really appreciated!!! of subject a tiny bit... what could one see from a 1.8 20v NA (125bhp standard) without turbo charging or super charging? again just curiosity thanks again guys!!
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130bhp should be attainable... :evil:
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you could go crazy and make it a very good engine.. polish and porting.. cams.. etc etc.. standard i would say just a remap to sort the flat spots out and make it more 'sportier' in feel..
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also things like lighter clutch (from a mk3 ABF for example) and vr6 clutch setup will make the car feel quicker without actually giving any more power
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what could one see from a 1.8 20v NA (125bhp standard) without turbo charging or super charging? again just curiosity thanks again guys!!
If your lucky 4bhp, not worth the bother.
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what could one see from a 1.8 20v NA (125bhp standard) without turbo charging or super charging? again just curiosity thanks again guys!!
If your lucky 4bhp, not worth the bother.
+1, not worth the time or money.
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so bhp will have little change at all, what about gaining torque? is there ways to see worth will acceleration difference? thanks again people :)
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so bhp will have little change at all, what about gaining torque? is there ways to see worth will acceleration difference? thanks again people :)
weight saving will work better for acceleration
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Strip it, best gains :grin:
I have a 14lb flywheel, vr6 clutch, TIP, FMIC a few other things and its still no faster than my mates AGU (we both have the same car, AGU) and both remapped. Only thing with the remap that he has is coilovers :grin:
But mine does brake better and doesn't downgrade in heatsoak which is the only benifit at the top off my head.
As for your question, head for a k04 setup its the cheapest option in comparison to getting a k03 hybridized to the point of 260+bhp. But both setups have there perks etc... If I had the dollar my answer would be a gt28 turbo.
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so bhp will have little change at all, what about gaining torque? is there ways to see worth will acceleration difference? thanks again people :)
weight saving will work better for acceleration
Power to weight helps but its more of a all or nothing sort of thing. My mk4 pulls away ever so slightly at literally a crawling pace from my mate's stage 2 LCR pushing 280bhp at any speed.
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so bhp will have little change at all, what about gaining torque? is there ways to see worth will acceleration difference? thanks again people :)
weight saving will work better for acceleration
Power to weight helps but its more of a all or nothing sort of thing. My mk4 pulls away ever so slightly at literally a crawling pace from my mate's stage 2 LCR pushing 280bhp at any speed.
What are you running on your golf, no auq/aum golf whould out run a remapped lcr, sure ur mates lcr is running correctly.
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so bhp will have little change at all, what about gaining torque? is there ways to see worth will acceleration difference? thanks again people :)
weight saving will work better for acceleration
Power to weight helps but its more of a all or nothing sort of thing. My mk4 pulls away ever so slightly at literally a crawling pace from my mate's stage 2 LCR pushing 280bhp at any speed.
What are you running on your golf, no auq/aum golf whould out run a remapped lcr, sure ur mates lcr is running correctly.
Im just pushing 240 with all the usual bolt ons and AMD stage 2 map, my mates lcr is running fine, as i said he made 280bhp on AMD's rollers the same day he called me out for a run, my car is stripped out though...
I wouldn't say something so bold as no AUM/AUQ golf would outrun a mapped up lcr either - they are not untouchable, it's not a straight line car and if running standard turbo on full street trim it's no surprise really, he certainly wasn't.
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Ive found since i got my lcr that every golf thats tried to race me has lost.. badly. One of which was a anniversary gti mk4 petrol which i believe is the 180bhp auq motor :huh: Also i can actually stop from high speeds well unlike the poxy stock brakes on most mk4's. Brembos are the way forward :evil:
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I am not running stock brakes...
These are some old pics I've managed to find, I haven't got any more up to date pictures
(http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab111/rockmonkey69/DSCF1098.jpg)
(http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab111/rockmonkey69/197143_10150154312946287_564271286_8738628_3040136_n.jpg)
(http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab111/rockmonkey69/DSCF1103-1.jpg)
(http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab111/rockmonkey69/P010510_1610-1.jpg)
(http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab111/rockmonkey69/198260_10150154312026287_564271286_8738618_2637641_n.jpg?t=1299490584)
Im running 330mm x 28mm two piece floating rotors with large 4 pot NEX calipers, the pistons are quite a bit larger than the pistons on the LCR calipers.
The car weighs in at about 1 ton without driver, just under 240bhp per ton, as I said the car is stripped out and wouldn't be fair to compare against an anniversary with a map.
Exterior wise it's a standard 1.6 on the outside and still has a 1.6 badge as it's a sleeper and not many would notice the difference either.
sorry about the size of the pictures, I'll find a way to scale them.
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Good job! Very blingy.
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Thanks that was my first attempt at sanding any metal work, I've got a polished up inlet mani and Im working on an AGN valve cover at the moment, it's alot of elbow grease but maintenance isn't as bad as many think. Picture of new inlet mani to be put on after the engine rebuild:
(http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab111/rockmonkey69/dsc_0010.jpg)
I've recently spent a bit more time on my engine bay because as a sleeper it's not eye catching and when parking up on a cruise people don't look twice at my car, they all look at my mates scoobys and evos, so this is bit of an outburst without ruining the sleeper look.
Back on topic though, power to weight is very important but I think given the average age of the mk4 golf owner, alot of members would not be able to live with a stripped out shell with engine on wheels as a daily car and I admit I myself find it a headache to drive in the wet (no ABS or traction control), in the snow, in traffic and when I'm not feeling in the mood. There can be little compromise when it comes to weight savings, it's a case of all or nothing, so to the OP it might be easier to just go for more power. I would steer clear of CR Turbo hybrids, I've a few 1.8t mates who have had nothing but bad luck with them, better off going big turbo or jbs hybrid, just avoid any boost spikes or massive torque and you should be fine on the standard block making a healthy and strong 270+ or even go for a k04-02x like the one in the picture above :) (Sold)
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where in bexley are you as I've played with a few golfs and only two have seriously humiliated me. :grin:
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It's not that big of a town, I go cruising to Bluewater Lakeside and Excel at the end of the month though, I've seen a few other dubs there but don't know if they're from here
PS. sorry to the op for going off topic.
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It's not that big of a town, I go cruising to Bluewater Lakeside and Excel at the end of the month though, I've seen a few other dubs there but don't know if they're from here
PS. sorry to the op for going off topic.
I use to go too all them never seen a stripped golf. Excel and Lakeside was usually really good on bank holidays.
Is Bluewater back and running in terms off meets?
Where in B'heath are you roughly and what colours your golf and 3dr or 5? Going to keep a look out for it.
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i go up lakeside few times a month don't think i've see either of you up there? mines a silver mk4 gti with anniversary kit, tt wheels, private plate l12 kyy
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Your golf meets a description off one I've seen what days you tend to go? We usually try and sort the runs down the back road by truck world. My mate was drunk as hell doing countdowns with England flags.
There's some fat chick with a white mk4 that's a regular.
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yea bluewater is back on, there's a jap meet on the last saturday of the month, it's the only time I go cruising as I go with cousins and mates evos and scoobies so it doesn't look like I'm just turning up on my own to a jap meet lol
My car is reflex silver, 5 door and has a 1.6 badge on it :evil:
I only drive when the roads are quiet and because it's a sleeper I don't get much attention so I can plop to the shops without any chavs trying to tailgate me or anything, so it's not easily spotted.
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Your golf meets a description off one I've seen what days you tend to go? We usually try and sort the runs down the back road by truck world. My mate was drunk as hell doing countdowns with England flags.
There's some fat chick with a white mk4 that's a regular.
Lol sounds hilarious...
Saturday nights I go up there, got some friends with much quicker jap cars so when ever they go up there..or when I have some spare money for fuel. Try go up atleast once a month. Was up there last sat. Always have alot of people try race me lo always. say
can't say i've seen the fat chick in the white mk4 though lol
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You want 300bhp??
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2884982.htm
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You want 300bhp??
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2884982.htm
Sweet :cool: :cool: :cool:
Was he on here a while back?
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You want 300bhp??
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2884982.htm
Sweet :cool: :cool: :cool:
Was he on here a while back?
Yeah I took it from this for sale thread :smiley: He pops in every now and again
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It's cheap, considering I paid £4000 for the gti 2 years ago and spent £1500 on it, only too have 200bhp... when with an extra £500 I would off had 350+ :evil: