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Title: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: dubber36 on 22 January 2011, 15:31: In a few weeks I am hoping to be ordering a new GT TDI and am debating what audio to go for.

The demo car I drove had a RCD 510 with a rear view camara. I much prefered the look of that over the 310, but wouldn't order the camara, so what else does the 510 do other than look better?

What have you all had and why? Also, has anyone gone for aftermarket?
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 22 January 2011, 15:41: Quote from: dubber36 on 22 January 2011, 15:31
In a few weeks I am hoping to be ordering a new GT TDI and am debating what audio to go for.
The demo car I drove had a RCD 510 with a rear view camara. I much prefered the look of that over the 310, but wouldn't order the camara, so what else does the 510 do other than look better?
What have you all had and why? Also, has anyone gone for aftermarket?

It looks better but sounds worse. :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: dubber36 on 22 January 2011, 15:42: Sounds worse than a 310???
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 22 January 2011, 15:47: Quote from: dubber36 on 22 January 2011, 15:42
Sounds worse than a 310???

Yep, much worse. I know, been there, heard them all.
If you go for the RCD/RNS510 you'll need a sub-woofer and a seperate amp. So if you go this route of RCD/RNS510 go with the Dynaudio as it's good value. But you'll still need a sub-woofer.
Did not feel the need for a sub-woofer or amplifier with the RCD310. And just one more thing, the RNS510 sounds very slightly worse than the RCD510.

EDIT: The RCD310 is not very pretty and I'm glad I got rid off the eyesore.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: simonpolly on 22 January 2011, 15:49: I choose the rcd 510 with the added dynaudio package it sounds far superior to the standard 310 set up .IMO
P.s cant see/hear why you would need seperate subwoofer. :wink:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 22 January 2011, 15:54: Quote from: simonpolly on 22 January 2011, 15:49
I choose the rcd 510 with the added dynaudio package it sounds far superior to the standard 310 set up .IMO

I agree it will sound better, but the need to have this was not desperately essential with the RCD310. It is now for me, with the RNS510. I've got the sub installed which improved the sound no end. On Monday/Tuesday coming, I will install a Genesis power amplifier.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Hartside on 22 January 2011, 16:05: I chose the RCD510 for the display information and superior look over the std one. Also so that the parking sensor display looked as good as it could. I didn't hear the std RCD310 so cannot comment on the sound difference, but for me it's good enough.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 22 January 2011, 16:11: Quote from: Hartside on 22 January 2011, 16:05
I chose the RCD510 for the display information and superior look over the std one. Also so that the parking sensor display looked as good as it could. I didn't hear the std RCD310 so cannot comment on the sound difference, but for me it's good enough.

The RCD510 has much better bass delivery than the RNS510. Hence the sub with the RNS510. It was/is pants. I don't think I have heard anything as bad for bass delivery as the RNS510. :shocked:

When I talk about bass delivery, I mean clarity and musicality. Not the boom-boom or thumping effects.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: mac7 on 22 January 2011, 17:16: I went for the RCD510 because I wanted the rear view camera, bluetooth phone interface and it looks better in the dash. It also allows you to play from 6 CD's, ipod or SD card. I ticked Dynaudio because it sounded better.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 22 January 2011, 17:36: Quote from: mac7 on 22 January 2011, 17:16
I went for the RCD510 because I wanted the rear view camera, bluetooth phone interface and it looks better in the dash. It also allows you to play from 6 CD's, ipod or SD card. I ticked Dynaudio because it sounded better.

That is something I miss. I'll have to install a CD changer but wish to have a bigger storage facility than 6. So it will have to be in the boot. I agree with all your points.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Jimble on 22 January 2011, 17:52: I went for the RCD 510 as i went for the camera (which is great and for £150 it's rude not to) and the appearance, just standard speakers in mine, you don't NEED to get a sub or an amp etc etc mate it sounds ok to me.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 22 January 2011, 18:05: Quote from: Jimble on 22 January 2011, 17:52
I went for the RCD 510 as i went for the camera (which is great and for £150 it's rude not to) and the appearance, just standard speakers in mine, you don't NEED to get a sub or an amp etc etc mate it sounds ok to me.

Not to me as I listen to only Classical Music and Opera on CD. The system would probably be ok for compressed music but I need a wide frequency response and a good dynamic range to enjoy all facets of the music. Hence a new 600 watt 4 Channel amp on Monday. Hope it fits under the driver's seat as the sub is under the passanger one.
I'll then assess the sound and then consider if the speakers need upgrading. I doubt this as I feel the problem lies with the RNS's amplifier. I have an audiphile system at home and it has spoilt me rotten.

When it's all done you can pop down to London and have a listen! Consider it my wedding present to you. :smiley:

Thanks for the bulb info. I'll be ordering on Monday. Most grateful.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Snoopy on 22 January 2011, 18:35: Quote from: am1w on 22 January 2011, 18:05
Hence a new 600 watt 4 Channel amp on Monday. Hope it fits under the driver's seat as the sub is under the passanger one.
i very much doubt it theres less room under there. 600W hows that defined?

There are 3 versions of the RCD510.
The RCD510 gives you the screen, 6disc indash player and SD cars(iirc) over the RCD310
There is also a version with DAB built in
There is also a version with the option of the rear view camera input.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: The Doc on 22 January 2011, 18:48: Quote from: Jimble on 22 January 2011, 17:52
I went for the RCD 510 as i went for the camera (which is great and for £150 it's rude not to) and the appearance, just standard speakers in mine, you don't NEED to get a sub or an amp etc etc mate it sounds ok to me.

Agreed with the above, RCD500 is a bargain, works well and sounds fine for most, dynaudio seems good value, The camera is a bargain also and while your there get the Bluetooth.

IMHO

Oh and the RCD310 looks total sh1te :sick:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: dubber36 on 22 January 2011, 19:31: I guess the sound thing is a subjective thing. As long as it's as good as better than the Delta and DSP in my current Passat, that'll do. I mostly listen to Radio 2 and a cd when Steve Wright is on. I can't imagine the difference being between night and day to me to me, so maybe the 510 will be fine.

As for the rear camara, I know I have only used it once, but I found myself with my head down and concentrating on the screen, which meant I wasn't paying attention to what was going on at the front of the car like I would have been if I was using the mirrors. It was a bit like when you see women reversing looking only over their right shoulder without a thought to where the n/s front is.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Jimble on 22 January 2011, 19:42: I Think you've hit the nail on the head mate, subjective! As far as the camera goes, i know what you mean about paying attention and it just takes a little getting used to but etto and all that. :wink:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 22 January 2011, 20:02: It is very subjective, yes. But good sound is good sound and as I have very trained ears, here-in lies my dilemma.
But it is an interesting little project which will give me a buzz and hopefully enhance my listening experience during those long traffic jams or when I'll be driving in the summer on wonderful German roads.
You asked and I answered.
And as they say ETTO. :wink:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: GolfTi on 22 January 2011, 21:55: Had the RCD310 orignal spec, changed to the RCD510 no noticable difference in sound quality to my ears. (Don't they both use the same amp and filters??)

Functionality and looks however greatly improved, the display fits the car so much better than the blue RCD310 and the 6 CD player is great.

Bought the (immacuate) RCD510 off ebay a year or so ago for £300ish, sold the RCD310 for £150ish on ebay.

Bargain.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: dubber36 on 23 January 2011, 07:24: No one gone aftermarket yet then?
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 23 January 2011, 09:06: Quote from: dubber36 on 23 January 2011, 07:24
No one gone aftermarket yet then?

Have a look:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=171368.0
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=176195.0
+
ICE Section of the Forum

However, I think that for you, and from what I have read so far from your posts, the standard set-up would be fine.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Snoopy on 23 January 2011, 10:24: Quote from: am1w on 23 January 2011, 09:06
Quote from: dubber36 on 23 January 2011, 07:24
No one gone aftermarket yet then?
Have a look:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=171368.0
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=176195.0
+
ICE Section of the Forum
However, I think that for you, and from what I have read so far from your posts, the standard set-up would be fine.
Heatunit? Im waiting till i have been to the UKtrade show in march to see whats coming out new first, i did not make it to CES this year sadly.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 23 January 2011, 11:01: Quote from: Snoopy on 23 January 2011, 10:24
Quote from: am1w on 23 January 2011, 09:06
Quote from: dubber36 on 23 January 2011, 07:24
No one gone aftermarket yet then?
Have a look:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=171368.0
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=176195.0
+
ICE Section of the Forum
However, I think that for you, and from what I have read so far from your posts, the standard set-up would be fine.
Heatunit? Im waiting till i have been to the UKtrade show in march to see whats coming out new first, i did not make it to CES this year sadly.

Snoops: I wonder which head units the B&W and Linn ICE systems use. Their own designs?
Have Boothroyd-Stuart Meridian and Arcam gone into the OEM ICE business?
I've not been following the progress of these companies for sometime now.

They probably take out a line output from units bought in and use their own pre and power amps + electronic X-overs. Though I have always preferred passive X-overs. :rolleyes: Hmmm.

I like the way they pay a great deal of attention to the width and depth of the sound-stage. :wink:

Sorry a bit OT .
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Snoopy on 23 January 2011, 11:16: Arcam were looking at it a few years back but the way mission went they were a bit hesitant.
Alot of those companies consult other companies. Im not 100% on whos using whos at the moment but alot of them use to consult Alpine,JBL(Harmon industries really) and blaupunkt.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 23 January 2011, 11:21: Quote from: Snoopy on 23 January 2011, 11:16
Arcam were looking at it a few years back but the way mission went they were a bit hesitant.
Alot of those companies consult other companies. Im not 100% on whos using whos at the moment but alot of them use to consult Alpine,JBL(Harmon industries really) and blaupunkt.

Thanks. Had the same thoughts. Yeah, the head unit..... Very important. Garbage in, garbage out! :rolleyes:

Interesting about Mission. :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Snoopy on 23 January 2011, 11:42: IMO That depends. Its easily tested. If its giving the same output frequency responce as input and has a low noise floor and low mechanical noise then i would not be that bothered :evil: My human hearing is not as sensitive as measuring equipment :evil:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: flc1962 on 23 January 2011, 16:29: RDC 510 DAB with Dynaudio (never paid for :cool:).

I listen to DAb all the time or a usb stick.

Never use the auto changer as I D/L all my music
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: dubber36 on 23 January 2011, 19:32: It seems like a RDC510 with DAB and Dynaudio will fit the bill then.

510 because it looks better. DAB, because the car will be a keeper and we'll all need it eventually and Dynaudio because it just has to be done.

Thanks boys. :smiley:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: simonpolly on 24 January 2011, 18:46: Quote from: dubber36 on 23 January 2011, 19:32
It seems like a RDC510 with DAB and Dynaudio will fit the bill then.

510 because it looks better. DAB, because the car will be a keeper and we'll all need it eventually and Dynaudio because it just has to be done.

Thanks boys. :smiley:

Good choice the same as mine, a nice touch with the dab is if you lose the reception it will automatically switch to the same channel on f.m.Saying that itâ€™s very rare I lose the dab the only place it seems to happen is in a multi storey car park.
:smiley:

p.s do you find the reception for radio 2 is poor in craven arms,i tend to lose it in my van when in craven arms ?
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: dubber36 on 25 January 2011, 11:14: Quote from: simonpolly on 24 January 2011, 18:46
p.s do you find the reception for radio 2 is poor in craven arms,i tend to lose it in my van when in craven arms ?

Yes, we are in a bit of a dead spot here. Replacing the aerial mast on my Passat improved it a bit, but my Mk2 struggles to pick it up.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Snoopy on 29 January 2011, 13:22: Quote from: dubber36 on 23 January 2011, 07:24
No one gone aftermarket yet then?
I hope kenwood update there custom fit unit for this year as i would be intereted if they do. Theres just a couple of things i would like to see added so its more oem and upto date.

http://www.youtube.com/user/KenwoodElectronicsUK (http://www.youtube.com/user/KenwoodElectronicsUK)
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: jamojdm on 01 February 2011, 07:39: I've been driving round in a golf match with the RNS510 for the last few weeks and the sound has been awful. No matter what the source or what settings I change couldn't get anything to sound right. However I took delivery of my new GT TSi with stock RCD310 and it sounds incredible compared to the match!

Shame as I wanted to add the RNS510 to my new car :angry:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: dubber36 on 01 February 2011, 08:54: I wonder if that's because the RNS has too much to do as well as processing the sound? The RCD may be better.

It's a bit like phones. The one I had 15 years ago was brilliant. It just made calls and sent texts, that was it. The battery would last all week, and it held onto the signal really well. These new smart phones, well they're not really phones any more are they?
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 01 February 2011, 09:39: At last I have been vindicated.

To put it mildly, the RNS 510 that I have in my car sounds crap but that doesn't mean they all do, just mine in particular. The RCD 310 looks a bit unattractive but sounds brilliant.
The RNS 510 in my car is unusable for listening purposes unless fitted with a sub-woofer and separate amp. The RCD 510 is no better IMHO

It is for this reason I have fitted an underseat sub-woofer and will be attaching a power amp tomorrow to the RNS 510.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: MAW73 on 01 February 2011, 11:18: Quote from: am1w on 01 February 2011, 09:39
At last I have been vindicated.

To put it mildly, the RNS 510 sounds crap. The RCD 310 looks a bit unattractive but sounds brilliant.
The RNS 510 is unusable for listening purposes unless fitted with a sub-woofer and separate amp. The RCD 510 is no better.

It is for this reason I have fitted an underseat sub-woofer and will be attaching a power amp tomorrow to the RNS 510.

I'd disagree that the RNS510 sounds crap in fact I find it the opposite in all honesty..... I enjoy listening to music and have it pumped up fairly loud. That's not to say the adition of the sub-woofer and amp mods your doing wouldn't make a good improvement overall.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: gizzywizzy on 01 February 2011, 21:02: Asker

could it be your ears are too highly tuned, my RNS510 sounds just fine to me and I have it banged up quite high. I have a very eclectic taste in music and all tracks sound good to me.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 01 February 2011, 21:10: Quote from: gizzywizzy on 01 February 2011, 21:02
Asker
could it be your ears are too highly tuned, my RNS510 sounds just fine to me and I have it banged up quite high. I have a very eclectic taste in music and all tracks sound good to me.

Amanda Dearest,

Yes, I do have Golden Ears. :smug:

You have been away in the cold for sometime now. If you read my posts very carefully, I have clearly said that if one has an RCD510 or especially an RNS 510, then one definitely needs a separate amplifier (which you have & which I will have tomorrow) + a sub-woofer (which I have) to add icing on the cake.

God give me strength. :rolleyes:

:kiss:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: The Doc on 01 February 2011, 21:35: Quote from: gizzywizzy on 01 February 2011, 21:02
Asker

could it be your ears are too highly tuned, my RNS510 sounds just fine to me and I have it banged up quite high. I have a very eclectic taste in music and all tracks sound good to me.

+1 I like the sound of my RNS now that I've put the fader to front as the rear speakersvsound terrible IMHO, I noticed no difference in sound quality when I changed to my RNS, maybe there are different manufacturers?
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Snoopy on 01 February 2011, 21:54: Quote from: dubber36 on 01 February 2011, 08:54
I wonder if that's because the RNS has too much to do as well as processing the sound?
Not imo. Not to the human ears their not sensitive enough. If its designed properly that is. :wink: Unless you listen to marketing men :lipsrsealed:
The different brands and models prob had different design briefs over time on what frequency responce they wanted out of the unit which is why they sound so different to peoples ears. VW use to ask for a cut below 500Hz and a boost at 5Khz as the volume was wound up to save on warrenty claims on speakers for example.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Jimmymature on 01 February 2011, 22:00: Quote from: am1w on 01 February 2011, 21:10
Quote from: gizzywizzy on 01 February 2011, 21:02
Asker
could it be your ears are too highly tuned, my RNS510 sounds just fine to me and I have it banged up quite high. I have a very eclectic taste in music and all tracks sound good to me.

Amanda Dearest,

Yes, I do have Golden Ears. :smug:

You have been away in the cold for sometime now. If you read my posts very carefully, I have clearly said that if one has an RCD510 or especially an RNS 510, then one definitely needs a separate amplifier (which you have & which I will have tomorrow) + a sub-woofer (which I have) to add icing on the cake.

God give me strength. :rolleyes:

:kiss:

I have the RCD510 and the sound quality is poor to say the least, there is no depth to the sound, it lacks 'life'.

No matter what settings i change it to, it isn't improved. I will be doing something to it soon!

Jim
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 01 February 2011, 22:01: Quote from: Snoopy on 01 February 2011, 21:54
....... VW use to ask for a cut below 500Hz and a boost at 5Khz as the volume was wound up to save on warrenty claims on speakers for example.

This is so obvious with the RNS 510. :smiley:
It sounds hopeless on its own to my ears.
Sounds totally strangulated. :sick:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: mac7 on 01 February 2011, 22:24: Quote from: The Doc on 01 February 2011, 21:35
maybe there are different manufacturers?

Sort of - RNS was made by Siemens VDO, now part of Continental. RCD's were built by Blaupunkt, now Bosch, but also by Delphi for the US market. Different businesses use different manufacturers for electronic components - could that alter the sound quality between units? Or is it just different ears?
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Snoopy on 01 February 2011, 22:46: It should not if designed to the same brief on power,frequency responce, noise and distortion (within the human ear/brain tolerances.)
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 02 February 2011, 00:07: All I can say is this: My ears don't lie and I had to listen to 3 different RNS 510 units before I settled on mine. Glad I bought mine from Darren that allowed me this invaluable opportunity. Great guy, wonderful service.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: jamojdm on 02 February 2011, 06:44: I wonder if theres any difference in the A,B,C versions of the RNS510 then?

All I can say is the Golf Match I was driving for a few weeks which had a factory fitted RNS510 sounded awful no matter what I changed in the audio settings and the RCD310 in my new Golf sounds much better.

am1w what sub have you gone for? I'd be tempted to get one to go with the RNS510 when I finally get round to ordering it!
Just found the master thread on your under seat sub (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=163647.0). Where did they wire the sub into?
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 02 February 2011, 07:54: I had the Pioneer TS-WX11A sub-woofer fitted under the passenger seat. Was a perfect fit and made a considerable diference to the sound. The power feed was taken from the cigarette lighter, I think. Will check today.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: The Doc on 02 February 2011, 09:05: Quote from: am1w on 02 February 2011, 00:07
All I can say is this: My ears don't lie and I had to listen to 3 different RNS 510 units before I settled on mine.

Can I presume that the unit you settled on sounded the better of the three you listened to or did they all sound the same?

Presuming you went for the one that sounded the best out if the three, had you listened to 100 units yours may be in the lower or higher end of the sound quality spectrum hence you'd need to listen to all of our units to make such a sweeping statement.

:kiss:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 02 February 2011, 12:49: Hi Doc.
Chose the best out of three to my ears. Wish I could have listened to more.
I agree with your statistical analysis.
:kiss:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: The Doc on 02 February 2011, 21:07: Quote from: am1w on 01 February 2011, 09:39
At last I have been vindicated.

To put it mildly, the RNS 510 that I have in my car sounds crap but that doesn't mean they all do, just mine in particular. The RCD 310 looks a bit unattractive but sounds brilliant.
The RNS 510 in my car is unusable for listening purposes unless fitted with a sub-woofer and separate amp. The RCD 510 is no better IMHO

It is for this reason I have fitted an underseat sub-woofer and will be attaching a power amp tomorrow to the RNS 510.

Is that a less bias post?

I'm really looking forwards to our holiday, long walks and DMC's about RNS radios and xenon's bliss
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 02 February 2011, 21:23: Hi Doc.
You'll have to forgive an invalid's bias. But I did feel the Susan Boyle RCD310 sounded better. Back on the Blackberry again as cannot use PC. Amp installed today but could not collect car and listen to system. Will reveal all tomorrow if I am still alive.
The Kenwood KAC-X4D was a perfect fit under the driver's seat. I was a bit worried I would have to go for a Dynaudio amp! :evil:
Holiday has to be on hold for the moment due to non-functioning left arm. :cry:
So sorry. :wink:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: The Doc on 02 February 2011, 21:51: Please get much better soon :wink:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 03 February 2011, 14:21: Update:
Amplifier has been successfully installed. Was a reasonably time consuming job. I'll collect the car in the next few days and subsequently dish the dirt as to how it all sounds. :smiley:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Snoopy on 03 February 2011, 17:59: Quote from: am1w on 03 February 2011, 14:21
Update:
Amplifier has been successfully installed. Was a reasonably time consuming job. I'll collect the car in the next few days and subsequently dish the dirt as to how it all sounds. :smiley:
(http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/Smileys/newsmileys/worth.gif)
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 03 February 2011, 18:21: Well, I had to go and listen to the system with the newly installed amplifier, even in my crippled state.

The transformation is truly incredible. The dynamic range, dynamics, tonal balance, detail, etc, etc all really fantastic. So I'm delighted. Wow!

It took a fair bit of installation time. It would have been a fat bill, but as I've known them for 30 years, I got a very, very good discount.

Left the car there surrounded by a couple of Ferrari 599s, Lambos, Bentleys, Masaratis, Porches, Mercs, a Rolls Phantom etc. Think it will be safe there. They'll drop it by when I ask them to.

This expenditure will give me the greatest pleasure and is undoubtedly my top retro-fit. Truly ecstatic.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: The Doc on 03 February 2011, 19:41: Cool, thus proving that the sound quality is fine from your set, you just needed a little more power to project the sound?
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 03 February 2011, 19:59: Quote from: The Doc on 03 February 2011, 19:41
Cool, thus proving that the sound quality is fine from your set, you just needed a little more power to project the sound?

Using PC just for you. :wink:

But why does the RCD 310 sound considerably better? Same power as the RNS 510. That's always been my beef. But I agree with you, that power helps in this case and does not corrupt. :grin:

No pictures yet for Snoops. It fits so well under the seat and quite a way in that it's pretty difficult to see it. It's as if it was specifically designed for the Golf. :cool:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: GolfTi on 03 February 2011, 21:43: Sounds good Asker.

Or is that good sounds asker.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 03 February 2011, 21:55: Quote from: GolfTi on 03 February 2011, 21:43
Sounds good Asker.
Or is that good sounds asker.

:laugh:
Good play on words.
Basically, after 5 weeks of been housebound, I needed some retail therapy. :grin:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: GolfTi on 03 February 2011, 22:11: Is that the bus incident??

Hope you get better soon :smiley:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 03 February 2011, 22:20: Quote from: GolfTi on 03 February 2011, 22:11
Is that the bus incident??
Hope you get better soon :smiley:

Yes, No 211 bus from Kings Road, Chelsea to Westminster Bridge.
As Exonian said, I'm a medical nightmare! :shocked:
Might need an op. :cry:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Buck on 04 February 2011, 00:00: good news re the amp - hope it lives up to your expectations - will be a worthwhile investment/upgrade.

Also hope you continue with you recovery Asker
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 04 February 2011, 00:09: Quote from: Buck on 04 February 2011, 00:00
good news re the amp - hope it lives up to your expectations - will be a worthwhile investment/upgrade.
Also hope you continue with you recovery Asker

Thank you Adrian. Most kind.
I must admit the sound quality is quite superb.
The Underseat Pioneer TS-WX11A Sub-woofer, Kenwood KAC-X4D amplifier compliment each other and the standard loudspeakers very well. If I am being really, really fussy, I might change the front door tweeters to Morel Silk Domes. But this is for another day. :smiley:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Buck on 04 February 2011, 09:27: Good news then!

I'm now officially jealous.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 04 February 2011, 10:04: Quote from: Buck on 04 February 2011, 09:27
Good news then!
I'm now officially jealous.

Please don't be. You can get the same and it's not expensive. :smiley:
You are more than welcome to listen to mine and come to a decision.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Buck on 04 February 2011, 20:22: Thanks for the offer Asker

I'm going to see what the sound is like when I finally get the RNS510 fitted.

Without me trawling the threads what have you spent overall on the units and fitting?

Thanks
Adrian
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 04 February 2011, 20:31: Quote from: Buck on 04 February 2011, 20:22
Thanks for the offer Asker
I'm going to see what the sound is like when I finally get the RNS510 fitted.
Without me trawling the threads what have you spent overall on the units and fitting?
Thanks
Adrian

Adrian:

Pioneer TS-WX11A Sub-woofer £150. Labour £100.
Kenwood KAC-X4D Amplifier, £275, Cord leads £44, AFS Fuse Holder £11.50, Genesis High Level Interface £69.95, Labour £200.
(Was a massive job to install the amplifier, as the driver's seat had to be removed).
Total = £800.45

Well worth it IMO.

Would have been a bit cheaper if I had installed the two together.

Asker.

PS: For Morel Silk Dome tweeters, total cost is £250. :shocked:
I'll pass for now.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Buck on 04 February 2011, 21:42: Thanks Asker

tempting :laugh: - takes me back to my first cars where I spent more money on the audio than anything else
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: dubber36 on 04 February 2011, 22:08: Quote from: Buck on 04 February 2011, 21:42
Thanks Asker

tempting :laugh: - takes me back to my first cars where I spent more money on the audio than anything else

I know that one. Kenwood radio cassette, 10 disc changer, front upgrades, amp and rear 6x9's in my Mk2 Cavalier SRI 130, nearly 2 months wages at £1200. It was 1989.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Buck on 04 February 2011, 23:11: That's it!

CD changers were so cool back then :rolleyes:

Used to have a fantastic car audio place near where I lived with my parents. Spent a fortune :laugh:
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 07 February 2011, 17:42: Well, I had a really good listen to my sound system today. Simply brilliant. The weight of the bass with zero boom and the attack of the music takes one's breath away.
The driver's seat had to be removed to aid amplifier installation.
They have done a perfect job, expensive though.
Obviously, I am delighted.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: jamojdm on 08 February 2011, 00:51: Sounds like they did good am1w

I have an RNS510 on the way now so will compare the sounds of RCD310 and RNS510 while I'm installing.

Anyone have any experience with this type of amp http://www.bluespot.co.uk/car-audio.aspx/tha475-amplifier (http://www.bluespot.co.uk/car-audio.aspx/tha475-amplifier)
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Snoopy on 08 February 2011, 07:49: Quote from: am1w on 04 February 2011, 20:31
Adrian:

Pioneer TS-WX11A Sub-woofer £150. Labour £100.
Kenwood KAC-X4D Amplifie, £260. Bits 'n pieces £40. Labour £350.
(Was a massive job to install the amplifier, as the driver's seat had to be rempved).
Total = £800

eek
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: am1w on 08 February 2011, 14:02: Quote from: Snoopy on 08 February 2011, 07:49
Quote from: am1w on 04 February 2011, 20:31
Adrian:
Pioneer TS-WX11A Sub-woofer £150. Labour £100.
Kenwood KAC-X4D Amplifier, £275, Cord leads £44, AFS Fuse Holder £11.50, Genesis High level Interface £69.95. Labour £200.
(Was a massive job to install the amplifier, as the driver's seat had to be removed).
Total = £800.45p
eek
Snoops: Not that expensive. Got a 60% discount on labour. :smiley:

Quote from: jamojdm on 08 February 2011, 00:51
Sounds like they did good am1w
I have an RNS510 on the way now so will compare the sounds of RCD310 and RNS510 while I'm installing.
Anyone have any experience with this type of amp http://www.bluespot.co.uk/car-audio.aspx/tha475-amplifier (http://www.bluespot.co.uk/car-audio.aspx/tha475-amplifier)

It's ok, nothing special. It won't fit under the driver's seat but will under the passenger one.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Hartside on 08 February 2011, 18:12: Snoopy - Do you know anyone in the Newcastle area that fits audio equipment? I need to get an underseat sub fitted to my wifes car as the system lacks any bass whatsoever and only know Autosounds (don't know if they are any good or not)
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Snoopy on 08 February 2011, 18:30: Places keep closing and opening its hard to keep track, Turners in sunderland were the biggest with the best reputation but there now gone. I have heard good and bad about autosounds i stopped dealing with them because of a bad experience but family and friends have delt with them since and been ok. I went over to Austin at http://www.soundsalarming.co.uk/about-us but again heard good and bad about install quality, but hes the one that has done alarms etc for me in the past and i have not been disapointed when examining their work :wink: but thats quite a few years ago now. So basically i don't know what there like at the moment.
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Hartside on 08 February 2011, 18:35: Thanks Snoopy, I'll give Autosounds and Soundalarming a ring for a chat. You're right, Turners were very good. I had a car alarm fitted by them in the mid 80's and they did a real tidy job!
Title: Re: Talk to me about Radios
Post by: Snoopy on 08 February 2011, 18:38: I have seen some right disasters with alarms from turner in the past with the many cars i looked after for family and friends but recent years they have been quiet good. Just a place i would not go myself.
I have delt with Austin Main at soundsalarming since the start of the 90s. Just not in recent years so not sure what their like now but it would be the one place in the northeast i would try if it was something i was looking at just as i have good history with them which is rare with my standards :grin: