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General => General discussion => Topic started by: SoundillusioN on 26 May 2010, 13:13
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Is it just me or does it appear that anyone who wants to sell a MK3 for little cash seem to really struggle these days.. was flicking through classifieds on here and on other places and people just cant give them away!?... Whats going on!?
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Because Mk4s are now so cheap ?
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Price of scrap is low.
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depends on which mk3..
all the ones iv seen are cheep for a reason
but on a side note i think its second hand cars in general, a friend has a 2 year old top of the range titatium Focus, with a load of extras, 18k on the clock cost him 14k i think, they are selling for about 9k at the dealers for the same year but more miles and less spec, he cant even sell his for 7k, had not 1 phone call and its listed on autotraders website plus in the mag, this is 2 moths of trying, he just traded it in yesterday for 6800!!
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It wasnt long ago that there was a thread asking why mk3's were appreciating?! At the time, i agreed that they seemed to be getting more expensive but now i have to agree with this thread - people cant seem to give them away! It seems to me that they sell for more on ebay than on here though?! Maybe cos everyone on here hates em :lipsrsealed: :grin:
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When you can pick up a MKIV 20vT for less than £2K why would you pay over £1K for a MKIII unles sit's something really special?
They youngest ones are now what 12 years old, they rot like hell, they're not that quick, they're unreliable. It's not really that surprising. They've probably bottomed out now and as all the snotters slowely get destroyed the really tidy original ones will start to become sort after. I've noticed stuff like tidy original Anni's and CC's get snapped up pretty quick.
Nick
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Have to disagree with unreliable but i dont want to start an argument so... :lipsrsealed: :grin:
I heard the mk4's were more unreliable but ive never owned one? anyway.... :lipsrsealed:
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Sold mine for £1,700 with 80,000± miles on it
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:shocked: Was it mint? Where did you advertise it?
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I think the 16v's are better but the 8v's always have the MAF or relay faults and yo often see them for sale with "running problems".
A mate of mine bought a mint 8v with full mint cream leather and all the toys for £750 as it was running rough. Replaced the MAF and it's all good!
Nick
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yeah suprised at nicks reply thier :shocked: typical golfgti.co.uk attitude that
no rot on mine what so ever, their was little rust on the 16v i sold recently too and my mates VR6 is also rot free.
this black mk 3 has been the most reliable and solid feeling VW iv had and theirs been a few including new MK4's, the mk4s iv had (3 of them) have been the most un reliable but mainly for silly electrical faults.
id say the worst VW for rust is those older polos, they are terrible for rot
really does all depend on the car itself, look at adams he sold for example, nicks closing statement re the snotters rings true tho, its the same with many cars is this, look at all the older hot hatches now that had got to the point of been worth naff all (XR3I's etc) a good one now could set you back a small fortune
re MAF's never had a problem on any iv seen, nor hear about it on the forums :undecided:
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re MAF's never had a problem on any iv seen, nor hear about it on the forums :undecided:
I do know a couple of mates who've needed new mafs to be fair, i thought it was quite a common one!
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I think MK3s have a bad rep.. some of this may be that the mk3 8v for example is under powered compared to its predecessors (power to weight). Bear in mind the MK4 is not much better even though its turbo charged. Its slightly unfair to say that a mk3 is a rot box, other mks can be just as bad and a lot of it is due to bad ownership. Ive seen a 20yo Lada in mint condition because the owner looked after it. Why do mk3s get some much stick on here? I wouldnt have one because i'm a true lover of old skool and i think out of the box the mk3 was too big with too many toys to carry over its predecessors engines. but thats just me.
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It's a sad fact that MKIII's rot worse than any another Golf MK. Sills and bootlids being the worst. My Dad's VR6 had to have a new bootlid under warranty after it started rotting when it was only 2 years old!
Nick
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It's a sad fact that MKIII's rot worse than any another Golf MK. Sills and bootlids being the worst. My Dad's VR6 had to have a new bootlid under warranty after it started rotting when it was only 2 years old!
Nick
so as said earlier then, when we are only left with the really well looked after ones, they will be worth money!
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i did look at a G3, ( thankfully i didnt get one, the seats arent comfy for my fooked back ) and they are stooooopidly low at the moment :shocked: but that said, they arent selling :undecided:
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i did look at a G3, ( thankfully i didnt get one, the seats arent comfy for my fooked back ) and they are stooooopidly low at the moment :shocked: but that said, they arent selling :undecided:
I think it boils down to status too, people give respect to mk1's and 2s for being the daddys of the GTI. Mk1 for being the original, mk2 for being the improvement with the addition of 16v for example. Mk3???.. well got rid of the boxy design so to many was nicer to look at especially when it first came out, and although the seats wrent good for you, i believe comfort and safety were high on the list with options off AC and airbags etc. but the engines, nothing new really till they bought out the VR6, but then thats not a GTI. so we skip to the MK4 its cheap now and turbo charged, not that much quicker but for your money you can tell people you have a golf gti turbo! where would you put your money if you were buying your first GTI and only had a couple of grand????? Its still sad though that you can get a mk3 GTI 16v for less than half that, spend the rest on it and you'd have a fantastic car!
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they get a bad rep mainly because the blinker brigade jumps on the hate wagon, thats nothing new, they are a really good car tho if you get a good un, especially for the price you can pick them up, mines never gone wrong, never gets advisorys come MOT time either (how many of you mk2 owners can say the same eh?) yeah its not as quick as other hot hatches iv had but i much prefere driving mine than what i do the mk 4 which is alot faster, i will say tho, i find the mk3 8v is just as fast as a un mapped mk4 turbo, the MK's are very slow, obvioulsy its easy to make them faster so thats the good thing about them.
god knows how any mk2 8v owner can comment about performance tho, they suck too, as said in a previous thread today, back in the day if you had a 8v mk2, you were laughed at. and iv seen them rust like hell too and they are around the same age as my mk 3 which is a 93 car, totally rust free!
the latter golf 3's were suspect tho i will agree, the galvernisation process must have been poop, just as it was on the same era polo.
I think on a whole its the cars on here not selling, theirs too much choice out their, its a buyers market why by a sh!tter when you can have a good solid example for little more.
RE the tailgate, that was a recall as far as i was told something to do with fauly window seals
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of course this thread doesn't help those who are looking to sell a mk3 does it? :huh:
anyway... mine got me and chuff on a 227 mile round trip to huntingdon and back very happily today :cool:
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I'd just like to point out I have nothing against MKIII's in general. I was just stating they rust badly compared to other Golfs. Compared to similar aged fords however they're much hardier :grin:
Guy, you'll be alright san. Your's is proper straight and tidy and has always been pampered.
Nick
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god knows how any mk2 8v owner can comment about performance tho, they suck too, as said in a previous thread today, back in the day if you had a 8v mk2, you were laughed at.
Maybe but a MKII 8v is still quicker than all the MKIII GTI's and the early MKIV turbo's. So I wouldn't say they suck.
the latter golf 3's were suspect tho i will agree, the galvernisation process must have been poop, just as it was on the same era polo.
RE the tailgate, that was a recall as far as i was told something to do with fauly window seals
My old man's was an M plate so an early one. By the time he sold it it had the new tailgate and had to have both sills welded for the MOT. Bit crap on a 6 year old car.
Nick
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I'd just like to point out I have nothing against MKIII's in general.
I'd just like to point out this will not stop the piss taking :grin:
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It must be down to the individual car! Ive had a few mark 3's and havent had any rust issues except for the rubber bung needed welding on my current one! Had a couple of mk 2's as well and they were fine. Having said that, i had an escort si and that failed its mot on £700 worth of welding, so golfs cant be that bad anyway compared to other brands!
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Escorts suck, ha ha.
nick
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Maybe but a MKII 8v is still quicker than all the MKIII GTI's and the early MKIV turbo's. So I wouldn't say they suck.
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Maybe but a MKII 8v is still quicker than all the MKIII GTI's and the early MKIV turbo's. So I wouldn't say they suck.
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What's so funny about that?
Nick
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of course this thread doesn't help those who are looking to sell a mk3 does it? :huh:
anyway... mine got me and chuff on a 227 mile round trip to huntingdon and back very happily today :cool:
and at a good mpg too :cool:
yours is a sweet one guy - will sell no bother
but there are some real dog ones about, and these are the ones people are asking stooopid cash for :laugh:
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Maybe but a MKII 8v is still quicker than all the MKIII GTI's and the early MKIV turbo's. So I wouldn't say they suck.
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What's so funny about that?
Nick
everything :grin:
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Escorts suck, ha ha.
nick
Yes they do!! Felt good to get back in a golf!!
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of course this thread doesn't help those who are looking to sell a mk3 does it? :huh:
anyway... mine got me and chuff on a 227 mile round trip to huntingdon and back very happily today :cool:
This was a why thread not a dig, I hope you don’t think I was having a pop because I am a lover of all golfs. :smiley: if you had a car I wanted and had the cash, you are one person I would definitely buy from. I know you obsessively look after yours and I did mention that rot has a lot to do with ownership not the car.
I'd just like to point out I have nothing against MKIII's in general. I was just stating they rust badly compared to other Golfs. Compared to similar aged fords however they're much hardier :grin:
Guy, you'll be alright san. Your's is proper straight and tidy and has always been pampered.
Nick
agreed and i have nothing against mk3s. pah! fords my missus escort for example, P plate and has had more plates welded on it than i care to remember. and i hate to think the amount of hours ive wasted chasing rot on that!
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My mk3 8v was a 96 and I owned it 10yr. 95,000 later no rust bar a but on drivers door where a mate dunked under the bump strip. No issues bar the ignition shorting due to constantly being left in secondary position. Most reliable car that saw me through lots of shows n was generally fun. No mAf issues but this was definitely something for all the mk4s...my gttdi n mates 20v all suffering.
Snobbery about mk2s will end when the parts dry out...and the chavs have raided the mk4 and destroyed it's rep. The mk5 benefits from being a proper performance car. But no doubt a few sheds will appear...mk6 has already been barryboy'd lol
I'd say it's a good time for mk3 16v track day car pick up then!
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that was well said i must say..
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Maybe but a MKII 8v is still quicker than all the MKIII GTI's and the early MKIV turbo's. So I wouldn't say they suck.
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What's so funny about that?
Nick
Probably because a mk2 8v is not faster than any of those apart from other 8v's :grin:
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i got three offers on the vr two weeks ago,seems like peeps wanna buy them and store them.this was after i refurbed my wheels..
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Did someone say 'haters'?
Would now be the right time to post this image:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/diamondhell/Lemon.jpg)
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probably not......
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that was well said i must say..
Which bit :grin: the Rust: the parts: or the mk5 is a proper performance car :evil: :tongue:
N DH show a little love, even fat chicks need some loving :grin:
plus ain't we all family :wink:
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I don't talk to some of my family.
They're fat, stupid and ugly, too.
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That mag cover makes me laugh, they had one of the 1st ones built and most of the issues were sorted on the later cars plus it was stolen and came back with loads of faults which you cannot blame on the car.
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Sold mine for £1,700 with 80,000± miles on it
:shocked: Was it mint? Where did you advertise it?
Yeah it was mint. I spent alot of time and money on that motor. I have got abit of OCD and need to keep my car neat and everything working. :embarassed:
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I don't talk to some of my family.
They're fat, stupid and ugly, too.
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depends on which mk3..
all the ones iv seen are cheep for a reason
but on a side note i think its second hand cars in general, a friend has a 2 year old top of the range titatium Focus, with a load of extras, 18k on the clock cost him 14k i think, they are selling for about 9k at the dealers for the same year but more miles and less spec, he cant even sell his for 7k, had not 1 phone call and its listed on autotraders website plus in the mag, this is 2 moths of trying, he just traded it in yesterday for 6800!!
for pretty much every topic you start with 'well i have a mate who..' how many friends do you have?
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depends on which mk3..
all the ones iv seen are cheep for a reason
but on a side note i think its second hand cars in general, a friend has a 2 year old top of the range titatium Focus, with a load of extras, 18k on the clock cost him 14k i think, they are selling for about 9k at the dealers for the same year but more miles and less spec, he cant even sell his for 7k, had not 1 phone call and its listed on autotraders website plus in the mag, this is 2 moths of trying, he just traded it in yesterday for 6800!!
for pretty much every topic you start with 'well i have a mate who..' how many friends do you have?
obvioulsy a hell of alot more than you :grin:, yes i have a life, i know alot of people. Many of which own cars, :rolleyes:. working in the clubs also helps innit :wink: :cool:
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working in the clubs also helps innit :wink: :cool:
Kells last night:
(http://www.contrabandevents.com/images/uploads/large/8175565077594494525633e024095681.jpg)
Sorry bud, the temptation was too stong. :grin:
Nick
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so does that explain why mk3s get a bad name!..... :smiley: i should have know better to start a mk3 thread!
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nick... now im worried about you and what sort of clubs you hang around in :lipsrsealed: :grin:
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nick... now im worried about you and what sort of clubs you hang around in :lipsrsealed: :grin:
No need to worry, I haven't been out to a club in about 5 years. I struggle staying awake past midnight these days.
Nick
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nick... now im worried about you and what sort of clubs you hang around in :lipsrsealed: :grin:
No need to worry, I haven't been out to a club in about 5 years. I struggle staying awake past midnight these days.
Nick
Kells makes home visits then.... :grin: :grin: :grin:
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obvioulsy a hell of alot more than you :grin:, yes i have a life, i know alot of people. Many of which own cars, :rolleyes:. working in the clubs also helps innit :wink: :cool:
Genuine friends, or just people who want to bask in the reflected glory of a local music technicial who might get them into a club for free.
Sometimes it's so troublesome identifying the difference.
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Nebbits Scrap yard behind my work seem to cube at least 100 Mk3s a day, one of the moustaches bought a good VR interior of a Pikey taking cars in to be cubed for £15 :shocked:
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There you go the Mk3 elephants grave yard, some say its haunted by the ghost of a thousand 8 valves
http://www.scrap-man.co.uk/
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obvioulsy a hell of alot more than you :grin:, yes i have a life, i know alot of people. Many of which own cars, :rolleyes:. working in the clubs also helps innit :wink: :cool:
Genuine friends, or just people who want to bask in the reflected glory of a local music technicial who might get them into a club for free.
Sometimes it's so troublesome identifying the difference.
maybe it would be if i was a 7 year old and had no life exp.. but sadly for you this is not the case. people would rather tag on to the drug dealer.. "you dirty fooking coke whore" you have led such a sheltered life you wouldnt know about the in's and outs of club life tho would you
having such great friends is why i couldnt give 2 hoots what people like your pathetic self think of me on here, it must be horrible to have no friends in the real world and more than likely one ugly mofo of a wife you middle aged overweight spoon :grin:
guess this is why you try make up for it driving a clapped out shed round a track (and then slag of cars far superior to what you will ever own such as a M3 :grin: :grin:... hardly makes up for good sexy time with some fit birds tho does it
Oh and finally, i couldnt give a f**k if my grammar or spelling is farkin sh!te, who actually gives a f**k other than you anyhow :grin: :grin:
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Why are mk3s hard to sell again? phew :laugh:
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as said at the start, depends on the car, iv got a que of people who are willing to take mine if/when i decide to sell
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tbh when i was looking at a new car after the corrado finally died, i looked at mk1s to 4's, as they were all in my price range, i could have gone for a smart looking 2 but i wanted a 3 because of all the insults etc , was a little challenge.
i like the look, to me its a little bit modern on one angle with the classic squarish shape at another...
hopefully once ive drip fed my very small amount of spare cash into it i will have a smart mk3!
(even though my engine is starting to give, lol)
when i bought mine he was asking 1400 for it, i managed to knock him down to 900 (and im a bad haggler lol)
they do seem to go for absolute pittance, its crazy!
they do have a bad rep because i think they get used as donkey cars, long hard commutes etc... and owners dont seem to care what they are, whereas people with older mks seem to treasure them a little more!!
i seem to see more mk2 with people who let on to ya, presumably enthusiasts, than mk3s, most are just people who have a car as an a to b thing, which i think is a shame.
sorry for the essay, lol
although all these cheap ones going are tempting me to get on for donor parts, which i may do for an engine very soon :D
ps - not surprised kells, cos your is one of the best looking 3's going! - add me to the list ;)
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thanx man, nice of you to say that :cool:
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yours is sweet mate, but i'll get my nose out now ;)
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+1 its a damn nice motor mate and its good to see someone stick up for the mk3 in every thread going :grin: cos they do get a bad rep that isnt entirely justified. I agree with robz quote too that the mk3's seem to get used as an everyday car rather than a enthusiasticly owned weekend toy. This is probably cos they are just too good :grin: :lipsrsealed: Anyway, hopefully the prices are bottoming out now as someone said earlier and the value of the good ones will start to increase!! ( I think that includes mine :laugh:)
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cheers mate, i cant have a bad word said on them tbh, mine has been fault free, solid as a rock and i love driving it. and no matter where i take it i always get good words off people. Plus every time i see another older VW i get a flash of the lights and a thumbs up
by no means fast as some of my other cars but for what it is, its great
some bargains to be had, make a good daily for may people on here
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well mine is putting in 50 miles a day atm and running well, even with the piston rings allowing it to eat lots of oil lol
good for both daily and enthusiast i say!
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they aren't bad cars tbh, probably the last of the well built vw's. They just fell on their face by badging the 8v as a gti :grin:
tbh the mk4 GTI gets away with a lot of abuse because they are just as boring, maybe even more so!
(normal piss taking will resume after this post)
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Nothing wrong with a Mk3 VR6 or a well sorted 16V :smiley:
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Nothing wrong with a Mk3 VR6 or a well sorted 16V :smiley:
As said if you took the 8v out of the question it wouldn't be so much slated right?
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well i wouldn't say that :grin:
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Nothing wrong with a Mk3 VR6 or a well sorted 16V :smiley:
As said if you took the 8v out of the question it wouldn't be so much slated right?
same engine as in my b3's :laugh:
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Nothing wrong with a Mk3 VR6 or a well sorted 16V :smiley:
As said if you took the 8v out of the question it wouldn't be so much slated right?
same engine as in my b3's :laugh:
You just love that engine so much don't you.
P.S you taking to the wagon to Volksfest?
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Nothing wrong with a Mk3 VR6 or a well sorted 16V :smiley:
As said if you took the 8v out of the question it wouldn't be so much slated right?
Yep I had and was well happy with a 8V but in no way should it have had a GTI Badge.
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Nothing wrong with a Mk3 VR6 or a well sorted 16V :smiley:
As said if you took the 8v out of the question it wouldn't be so much slated right?
same engine as in my b3's :laugh:
You just love that engine so much don't you.
P.S you taking to the wagon to Volksfest?
dunno, depends which one has fuel in it :laugh:
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just saw this on someones sig! (http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt228/DoogalDoog/Golf-Evolution2.jpg) :lipsrsealed:
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PS.. agree with robz... also Kells, you're car is beautiful!
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Dug yourself out of that one pretty quick!! :grin: :grin:
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So no one has heard of the middle child syndrome? Overweight and the rest pick on them, poor MK3 :grin:
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So no one has heard of the middle child syndrome? Overweight and the rest pick on them, poor MK3 :grin:
(http://www.everyjoe.com/thedailytee/files/lmao-new-t-shirt-thinkgeek.jpg)
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Dug yourself out of that one pretty quick!! :grin: :grin:
hey its not my sig!
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(http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt228/DoogalDoog/Golf-Evolution2.jpg)
That's my original p1ss poor photoshopping right there, that is.
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(http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt228/DoogalDoog/Golf-Evolution2.jpg)
That's my original p1ss poor photoshopping right there, that is.
Yeah but it is funny because it looks like you've rubbed it out :grin:
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Id like to know where to find the original - its quite a good pic!! :nerd:
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typical golfgti.co.uk attitude that,
:cry: :cry: :cry:,
how dare they say mk3`s are crap :grin:
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*shrug* I like my mk3, but I also like mk2's, but not too keen on the interior - all the controls and stuff, but it's just because of the age of them now.
If you want super slow, you want a mk3 1.4 cl :evil: