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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Golf mk4 TDI => Topic started by: asif on 25 April 2010, 22:26

Title: Is my red turbo pipe ok?
Post by: asif on 25 April 2010, 22:26
Right so I was under the car today, trying to sort out the plastic undertray and I thought i'd have a look at the red turbo pipe behind the front bumper on the drivers side.
It's looks a right mess with what looks like oil on it, tried to see if it was loose and coming away but seems pretty firm in place, anyhow you guys will know more than me looking at the folling pic, let me know if it looks ok or is there something to be worries about?
Also whilst looking at this pipe I noticed this other metal pipe that also had oil on it.

Anyway let the advice and info roll :)

(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/asifestoril/CIMG3940.jpg)
(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/asifestoril/CIMG3941.jpg)

(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/asifestoril/CIMG3942.jpg)

All advice and info is much appreciated.
Title: Re: Is my red turbo pipe ok?
Post by: Rhyso on 26 April 2010, 08:20
it could be at some point that the pipe has come off and blown oil over it or it could be a leak from the intercooler side of the pancake pipe

I'd wash off as much as you can and monitor it over the next couple of weeks

If the oil returns then its possible you have a small boost leak in that area - might be as simple as a perished o-ring
Title: Re: Is my red turbo pipe ok?
Post by: asif on 26 April 2010, 09:25
It's feeling like i'm getting closer to my MPG problem fingers crossed.

I've cleaned it up and will check again after work today and over the next week or so, see what happens as when i looked at the pipe the oil looked quite fresh and in some places it was built up ready to drop off like rain on a window sill.

Bloody boost leaks are a right pain in the crack to find.
In relation to this pipe where is the pancake pipe and what does it look like exactly?
Title: Re: Is my red turbo pipe ok?
Post by: Rhyso on 26 April 2010, 09:27
Follow the red pipe from the turbo and where its connected is your pancake pipe  :tongue:

It runs along the drivers wheel arch
Title: Re: Is my red turbo pipe ok?
Post by: asif on 26 April 2010, 09:51
So I need to take the wheels arch lining out to view it? I've tried looking from the top but can;t see fook all as the bay is packed on the left hand side and from the drivers front wheel it just has the lining so I assume the lining needs to be removed.
Title: Re: Is my red turbo pipe ok?
Post by: Rhyso on 26 April 2010, 10:41
So I need to take the wheels arch lining out to view it? I've tried looking from the top but can;t see fook all as the bay is packed on the left hand side and from the drivers front wheel it just has the lining so I assume the lining needs to be removed.

nope no need to remove it; just turn the wheel to right full lock  :wink:  You'll find it caked in mud and crap no doubt!
Title: Re: Is my red turbo pipe ok?
Post by: asif on 26 April 2010, 10:44
I swear i've looked in that gap on a full right lock turn.

Damn I prob need to go spec savers :grin:

So i'll full lock to the right and there should be a mucky pipe that may have leakage on it. I take it it's a flat looking pipe?

Rhyso i'm really sorry for the dumb questions but I swear I didn't see a pipe there when looking yesterday from the drivers side.
Title: Re: Is my red turbo pipe ok?
Post by: Rhyso on 26 April 2010, 10:47
No worries mate

Found a pic

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/Photo-0086.jpg)

See the half shiny / dirty pipe on the right of the picture  :smiley:
Title: Re: Is my red turbo pipe ok?
Post by: asif on 26 April 2010, 11:23
Cool thanks for the pic mate makes life so much easier, so i'm looking to see if there is any leakage on that pipe and generally the state of it and see if I can find a boost leak on it.
Title: Re: Is my red turbo pipe ok?
Post by: Rhyso on 26 April 2010, 11:28
Cool thanks for the pic mate makes life so much easier, so i'm looking to see if there is any leakage on that pipe and generally the state of it and see if I can find a boost leak on it.

Yep - most common problem is the lugs were away and or the o-ring inside persishes.  Also the clips stretch allowing for movement

Might be worth renewing the clips and o-rings whilst you got it apart - save doing the job twice  :smiley:  Should be nor more than a few quid from the dealers for them  :smiley:
Title: Re: Is my red turbo pipe ok?
Post by: asif on 26 April 2010, 11:55
Cheers Rhyso, add to the list of times you've helped me.
Title: Re: Is my red turbo pipe ok?
Post by: asif on 13 May 2010, 08:56
After inspecting the red turbo pipe again there is more build up of liquid and looks the same as the pic in my first post :(

Also realised that the wheel arch liner which sits behind the pipe is also all oily and there is a patch that is heavily oiled about the size of 2 hands (sorry best way I could explain the size :grin: )

You reckon the pipe is fooked? I suppose I won;t know until I get the car serviced and checked up. Only problem is that I go holiday in 1 1/2 weeks and funds aint allowing me to fork out just yet so will get service and inspection done when i'm back, but in the mean time i'm worried that it might have a knock on effect on something else and I might make something else fook up, so help and advice as normal is much appreciated.

Cheers
Asif
Title: Re: Is my red turbo pipe ok?
Post by: Rhyso on 13 May 2010, 09:17
If there's oil around that area that is almost certainly a sign of a boost leak and will result in your poor mpg
Title: Re: Is my red turbo pipe ok?
Post by: asif on 13 May 2010, 09:31
I know this sounds crazy but that is a fooking result as atleast it help me to resolve the problem now.
Hope it's just the cheaper fix and not the actual red pipe which as you've adviced in other thread cost about £100 right.

Either way i'll be a happy bunny once my MPG increases to what it should be, once i'm back from holiday i'll get it lookedinto and sorted.

Any precautions for 1 1/2 weeks of driving until I get it sorted?
Title: Re: Is my red turbo pipe ok?
Post by: asif on 13 May 2010, 09:36
Also the oil, where the hell is that coming from? or is that the oily build up that generally cloggs the egr?
Will I need to keep an eye on the oil levels?
Title: Re: Is my red turbo pipe ok?
Post by: Rhyso on 13 May 2010, 09:56
Also the oil, where the hell is that coming from? or is that the oily build up that generally cloggs the egr?
Will I need to keep an eye on the oil levels?

TDI's 'breathe' heavily so its natural to find that within the boot pipes but yes its the same stuff that clogs up the EGR (to my knowledge anyway).  You should be checking your oil levels weekly anyway  :tongue:

In an ideal world I'd replace all the clips and o-rings on all your pipework and flush out your intercooler  :smiley:

You'll be amazed at the performance difference by doing just these simple things
Title: Re: Is my red turbo pipe ok?
Post by: asif on 13 May 2010, 10:31
Add to the list of things to do to my TDi :)

There's so much i want to sort out but my hands are tied due to my big holiday in Malaysia, seems like all my money is tied up and being saved at the minute.