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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: stainesy on 12 March 2010, 22:13
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i have fitted to my mk3 the hella quad headlights and wanted to to make them better at night so was thinkiing of making them HID.
anybody done this with these headlights?
how easy is it tom do a HID conversion?
any help welcome?
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what?
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Can of worms, can of worms, can of worms.....
Yes it's possible, obviously you are using you car off road only though and an H1 kit fits straight on it. Off road on your dads mates nans farm though, isn't it?
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are the hella quads projector lenses?
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ah so by the answers so far i take it HID conversions are not street legal then? oh right i was not aware of this?
if thats the case maybe i wont do it then.
mite have to invest in some osram nightbreaker bulbs instaed.
so have i opened a an of worms? lol
i never new they was not street legal. i see so many people with them around my area i just asumed they was ok to use on the street.
and yes they are projectors i think but mine seem to be crap at night.
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hold on a sec i have just been looking online and is it true that hid headlights are fine to use on the road if fitted in projector headlights? as they focus the beam more directly?
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are the hella quads projector lenses?
yeah they are
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this old chestnut......... :rolleyes:
been stopped by the police with mine on and nothing was said and mine PASSED the mot with them aswell.
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this old chestnut......... :rolleyes:
been stopped by the police with mine on and nothing was said and mine PASSED the mot with them aswell.
i take it you have projectors?
then maybe i will get the kit then. need something my hella quads are not that good at night with the normal bulbs.
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We haven't had a "HID" thread for a while, so this a chance for everyone to post again that they are illegal or legal.
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got angel eyes in mine as the car had em when i brought it and i like em, had standard bulbs in and may as well have a candle stuck on the bonnet for what they were worth..... :laugh:
so deffo go the HID route mate :wink:
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got em in mine 6000k very good, so good the police gave me 100 quid and a gold star
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Can of worms, can of worms, can of worms.....
Yes it's possible, obviously you are using you car off road only though and an H1 kit fits straight on it. Off road on your dads mates nans farm though, isn't it?
Shut the f**k up Josho, you were all over HID's like a rash when you realised they were an affordable price!!
You even mentioned somewhere you were making some custom headlights to house the HID's. I think you just slag them off all the time because you don't want other people to have what you've got.
Man up, stop talking absolute bo11ocks, and actually get yourself a driving license and a roadworthy car before you start making comments about what's legal and what's not. I'm sure driving your parents cars on the road with no license is perfectly legal isn't it :huh:
Stainesy, HID's are perfectly fine for road use. Yeah people constantly moan about the 'glare' and the fact they blind other road users, but put simply; tough sh!t. Maybe they should buy themselves a set or go to their local opticians because I never EVER have any problems with a car that has HID's coming towards me!
I've had my HID's on my car for OVER a year now, no problems whatsoever, and I hang out in the chavviest places you could ever imagine (Ipswich, Southend, Yarmouth) with police all over the place.
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i had HID in mine they plug in no messing never been stopped and pass mot fine i had H1 8000k
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cheers guys im defo getting some now.
so is it as simple as
fitting the bulbs,
finding a place for the ballasts
wire from ballast to bulbs ,
wire from ballast to power,
new headlight fuse,
leave to run for ten mins
and job done?
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You choice but they are illegal.
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cheers guys im defo getting some now.
so is it as simple as
fitting the bulbs,
finding a place for the ballasts
wire from ballast to bulbs ,
wire from ballast to power,
new headlight fuse,
leave to run for ten mins
and job done?
New fuse?? I never fitted one
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no just plug them in easy as that. thats all mine are pluged into the 2 wires 1 from the bulb and 1 from the earth
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Can of worms, can of worms, can of worms.....
Yes it's possible, obviously you are using you car off road only though and an H1 kit fits straight on it. Off road on your dads mates nans farm though, isn't it?
Shut the f**k up Josho, you were all over HID's like a rash when you realised they were an affordable price!!
You even mentioned somewhere you were making some custom headlights to house the HID's. I think you just slag them off all the time because you don't want other people to have what you've got.
Man up, stop talking absolute bo11ocks, and actually get yourself a driving license and a roadworthy car before you start making comments about what's legal and what's not. I'm sure driving your parents cars on the road with no license is perfectly legal isn't it :huh:
Stainesy, HID's are perfectly fine for road use. Yeah people constantly moan about the 'glare' and the fact they blind other road users, but put simply; tough sh!t. Maybe they should buy themselves a set or go to their local opticians because I never EVER have any problems with a car that has HID's coming towards me!
I've had my HID's on my car for OVER a year now, no problems whatsoever, and I hang out in the chavviest places you could ever imagine (Ipswich, Southend, Yarmouth) with police all over the place.
Look mate, don't know what your love attraction is with Josho, but keep it away from me, OK?
Stop being a c*nt, HIDs in Hella twins are 100% illegal, I don't give a flying f**k whether you or anyone else runs them, but stop making out they are all dandy, because at the end of the day they aren't.
Your just butthurt because your little LED idea had already been done by me. :grin:
Immature tw*t.
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I've had HIDs in my Hellas for the last 8 years at least...
I fitted a kit from VAG Parts years ago, and it's passed an MOT every year since...no issues.
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You choice but they are illegal.
Is it as cut and dried as that?
I know for a new car, it has to have a headlight cleaning facility and automatic levelling...but the laws regarding use seem less clear.
The MOT makes no specific reference to it - as long as the beam pattern is correct.
Unless it's been changed recently.
anyone know for sure?
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You choice but they are illegal.
Is it as cut and dried as that?
I know for a new car, it has to have a headlight cleaning facility and automatic levelling...but the laws regarding use seem less clear.
The MOT makes no specific reference to it - as long as the beam pattern is correct.
Unless it's been changed recently.
anyone know for sure?
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The same applies for older cars too, there is a .gov.uk website explaining it. That said, many people run them without issues.
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You choice but they are illegal.
Is it as cut and dried as that?
I know for a new car, it has to have a headlight cleaning facility and automatic levelling...but the laws regarding use seem less clear.
The MOT makes no specific reference to it - as long as the beam pattern is correct.
Unless it's been changed recently.
anyone know for sure?
Finally someone that talks sense, not a 15/16 year old school kid that doesn't have a feckin clue
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Can of worms, can of worms, can of worms.....
Yes it's possible, obviously you are using you car off road only though and an H1 kit fits straight on it. Off road on your dads mates nans farm though, isn't it?
Shut the f**k up Josho, you were all over HID's like a rash when you realised they were an affordable price!!
You even mentioned somewhere you were making some custom headlights to house the HID's. I think you just slag them off all the time because you don't want other people to have what you've got.
Man up, stop talking absolute bo11ocks, and actually get yourself a driving license and a roadworthy car before you start making comments about what's legal and what's not. I'm sure driving your parents cars on the road with no license is perfectly legal isn't it :huh:
Stainesy, HID's are perfectly fine for road use. Yeah people constantly moan about the 'glare' and the fact they blind other road users, but put simply; tough sh!t. Maybe they should buy themselves a set or go to their local opticians because I never EVER have any problems with a car that has HID's coming towards me!
I've had my HID's on my car for OVER a year now, no problems whatsoever, and I hang out in the chavviest places you could ever imagine (Ipswich, Southend, Yarmouth) with police all over the place.
Look mate, don't know what your love attraction is with Josho, but keep it away from me, OK?
Stop being a c*nt, HIDs in Hella twins are 100% illegal, I don't give a flying f**k whether you or anyone else runs them, but stop making out they are all dandy, because at the end of the day they aren't.
Your just butthurt because your little LED idea had already been done by me. :grin:
Immature tw*t.
Funnily enough, Josho is the ONLY person I have ever seen type the word ok, in capital letters.
Go through all of your previous forum posts, got Josho written all over them.
You said your car was dusty mauve, however the car you posted in the thread at the top of the page was mystic blue and the picture was taken from auto traders website rather than hosted on photobucket, obviously because you don't want people finding out your true identity.
The picture of 'you' in the off topic section, also wasn't hosted on photobucket, and also doesn't show your face, clever one, isn't that kinda the point in the thread?
As for the 'switches' idea, I couldn't care less to be honest because; A. You haven't proved it by backing it up with photos and probably never will and B. Your car isn't even on the road so you're going to have fun playing with the switches on your driveway :grin: :grin: :grin:
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WHOOOO SSAAARRRR joe :wink: :grin: lol
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He's a complete bellend who thinks he's clever when there's a whole group of us that know the truth.....
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He's a complete bellend who thinks he's clever when there's a whole group of us that know the truth.....
What's that? Evolution?
Oh, and you seem really into the guy.
I've probably driven more cars fully legally on trade insurance then you ever have. You can continue driving in your little 1.6 while I'll happily drive an M5 to work for tyres. :cool:
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You choice but they are illegal.
Is it as cut and dried as that?
I know for a new car, it has to have a headlight cleaning facility and automatic levelling...but the laws regarding use seem less clear.
The MOT makes no specific reference to it - as long as the beam pattern is correct.
Unless it's been changed recently.
anyone know for sure?
Finally someone that talks sense, not a 15/16 year old school kid that doesn't have a feckin clue
Feel free to sorry sometime, I am a lot older than 15/16 and was only going by the info from previous threads.
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anybody know of any good VW garages in south yorkshire ... lookin to start an apprenticeship and no better car to work on that a MK2 golf !!!!
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Right, ignoring the sh!te in this thread the facts are:
-They aren't legal. (Unless you set up proper HID projectors or reflectors, headlight washers and an autoleveling system of some sort).
-They probably will pass an MOT, especially in Hella Twins (and I can speak from experience here).
-Police generally don't care/notice as long as they don't dazzle oncomming traffic (which aligned properly they won't) and there is this video on them on the internet where someone was testing them out with a Renault Megane with like 8-10K HIDs and it glared loads, obviously you're asking for trouble with something like that.
-4.3K-6K are the general choice. 8K is probably the limit, 10K is pretty blue so it's attention you don't want.
-They aren't difficult to fit, TBF the stock 10A fuse will be fine, although you can use a 5A one if you're anal, I wouldn't. Make sure they are sealed with the rubber caps though, otherwise as time goes on the lense will get dirty.
-VR6-Joe approves of them so they are fine.
-Diamond Hell thinks your a c*nt for running them.
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-Diamond Hell thinks your a c*nt for running them.
if this is why your not rocking them dude then blimey!!!
he is a small town hill billy who has basically f**k all life exp!!! he was dragged up on a farm FS and if he dont like somehting its regarded as sh!te.. cant believe you listed to goons like that mate, i know u like HIDs u just wont admit it :wink: :smiley:
we know its a gray area, but as said a million times, MOT time it wont fail and the rozzers couldnt give a flying f**k, new cars that came from the factory with them glair just as bad as any and if you cant beat em join em :grin:
Oh and on a side note, iv never seen switches like i did for joe, but i guess they will be copied now, and the reason they were done like that is due to a amber bulb been blow so i thought id experiment.. they look really cool :cool:
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You choice but they are illegal.
Is it as cut and dried as that?
I know for a new car, it has to have a headlight cleaning facility and automatic levelling...but the laws regarding use seem less clear.
The MOT makes no specific reference to it - as long as the beam pattern is correct.
Unless it's been changed recently.
anyone know for sure?
Finally someone that talks sense, not a 15/16 year old school kid that doesn't have a feckin clue
Feel free to sorry sometime, I am a lot older than 15/16 and was only going by the info from previous threads.
Sorry Wayne, wasn't referring to you mate, just forgot to delete your qoute from the above :)
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-Diamond Hell thinks your a c*nt for running them.
if this is why your not rocking them dude then blimey!!!
he is a small town hill billy who has basically f**k all life exp!!! he was dragged up on a farm FS and if he dont like somehting its regarded as sh!te.. cant believe you listed to goons like that mate, i know u like HIDs u just wont admit it :wink: :smiley:
we know its a gray area, but as said a million times, MOT time it wont fail and the rozzers couldnt give a flying f**k, new cars that came from the factory with them glair just as bad as any and if you cant beat em join em :grin:
Oh and on a side note, iv never seen switches like i did for joe, but i guess they will be copied now, and the reason they were done like that is due to a amber bulb been blow so i thought id experiment.. they look really cool :cool:
Who said I wasn't/haven't run them? :lipsrsealed:
He simply was the first to tell me they weren't legal, you don't get any trouble for running them though, just it's not right to tell people they are absolutely fine when they aren't 100% legal.
Oh, and my switches are like that, I cannot find my phone cable (yup, you're thinking "excuses excuses" but I'll get my mate to take one later and Joe never agree'd to the deal. :grin:).
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Man up dickhead, everything you type is bo11ocks
This forum has it's fair share of pathetic w@nkers, not allowed to fit HID's, not allowed to fit Porsche centre cap badges, not allowed to put a VR6 badge on a VR6 lookalike.. yeah good one.
Next you'll get flamed for lowering your car more than factory specifications :rolleyes:
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Man up dickhead, everything you type is bo11ocks
This forum has it's fair share of pathetic w@nkers, not allowed to fit HID's, not allowed to fit Porsche centre cap badges, not allowed to put a VR6 badge on a VR6 lookalike.. yeah good one.
Next you'll get flamed for lowering your car more than factory specifications :rolleyes:
Who actually gives a flying f**k? Don't like it, close the window.
Nobody is stopping you putting HIDs on your car, or Porsche badges. Reality check, it's the internet, everyone has an opinion...
All the abuse you are giving is amusing me for the record. :grin:
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I don't understand you lot. Less than a year ago someone asked about them and there was only a small mention about legalities of the HIDs now since someone made a big fuss about them its now a gray area. Stop being sheep. We all know they are illegal! If the OP want's to run them its not our responsibility.
Matt and Joe shut the f**k up. I'v got a sore head stop being petty both of you. What does it matter if Matt is josho?
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I don't understand you lot. Less than a year ago someone asked about them and there was only a small mention about legalities of the HIDs now since someone made a big fuss about them its now a gray area. Stop being sheep. We all know they are illegal! If the OP want's to run them its not our responsibility.
Matt and Joe shut the f**k up. I'v got a sore head stop being petty both of you. What does it matter if Matt is josho?
They can be illegal as much as they want, they're becoming a popular modification because people actually like to see further than the edge of their bonnet at night time so the police won't be able to stop it now will they :)
You used to have HID's so you can shut up aswell :tongue:
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I don't understand you lot. Less than a year ago someone asked about them and there was only a small mention about legalities of the HIDs now since someone made a big fuss about them its now a gray area. Stop being sheep. We all know they are illegal! If the OP want's to run them its not our responsibility.
Matt and Joe shut the f**k up. I'v got a sore head stop being petty both of you. What does it matter if Matt is josho?
They can be illegal as much as they want, they're becoming a popular modification because people actually like to see further than the edge of their bonnet at night time so the police won't be able to stop it now will they :)
You used to have HID's so you can shut up aswell :tongue:
This TBH.
In my opinion (well now my 3 points have gone) the pro's out weigh the cons. :lipsrsealed:
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I don't understand you lot. Less than a year ago someone asked about them and there was only a small mention about legalities of the HIDs now since someone made a big fuss about them its now a gray area. Stop being sheep. We all know they are illegal! If the OP want's to run them its not our responsibility.
Matt and Joe shut the f**k up. I'v got a sore head stop being petty both of you. What does it matter if Matt is josho?
They can be illegal as much as they want, they're becoming a popular modification because people actually like to see further than the edge of their bonnet at night time so the police won't be able to stop it now will they :)
You used to have HID's so you can shut up aswell :tongue:
I did yes. Newer had anyone flash at me or never had any of my mates in front of me telling me that my lights dazzled them. I also never had any problem with my MOT nor any problems with the Police; so what's the problem?
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I don't understand you lot. Less than a year ago someone asked about them and there was only a small mention about legalities of the HIDs now since someone made a big fuss about them its now a gray area. Stop being sheep. We all know they are illegal! If the OP want's to run them its not our responsibility.
Matt and Joe shut the f**k up. I'v got a sore head stop being petty both of you. What does it matter if Matt is josho?
They can be illegal as much as they want, they're becoming a popular modification because people actually like to see further than the edge of their bonnet at night time so the police won't be able to stop it now will they :)
You used to have HID's so you can shut up aswell :tongue:
I did yes. Newer had anyone flash at me or never had any of my mates in front of me telling me that my lights dazzled them. I also never had any problem with my MOT; so what's the problem?
As you say it's up to the owner.
Just I don't agree with people saying they are 100% fine when they are actually illegal, if OP knows this and chooses to run them then who cares?
Oh and I may have changed my views on them as after running them for more then a week you can really see the advantage.
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I don't understand you lot. Less than a year ago someone asked about them and there was only a small mention about legalities of the HIDs now since someone made a big fuss about them its now a gray area. Stop being sheep. We all know they are illegal! If the OP want's to run them its not our responsibility.
Matt and Joe shut the f**k up. I'v got a sore head stop being petty both of you. What does it matter if Matt is josho?
They can be illegal as much as they want, they're becoming a popular modification because people actually like to see further than the edge of their bonnet at night time so the police won't be able to stop it now will they :)
You used to have HID's so you can shut up aswell :tongue:
I did yes. Newer had anyone flash at me or never had any of my mates in front of me telling me that my lights dazzled them. I also never had any problem with my MOT; so what's the problem?
As you say it's up to the owner.
Just I don't agree with people saying they are 100% fine when they are actually illegal, if OP knows this and chooses to run them then who cares?
I can't find people saying they are 100% legal. If someone doesn't know the facts they shouldn't be advising.
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So why not just say that in the first place instead of posting up this nonsence..
Can of worms, can of worms, can of worms.....
Yes it's possible, obviously you are using you car off road only though and an H1 kit fits straight on it. Off road on your dads mates nans farm though, isn't it?
Would have saved 2 or 3 pages of b!tching.
That is all.
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I don't understand you lot. Less than a year ago someone asked about them and there was only a small mention about legalities of the HIDs now since someone made a big fuss about them its now a gray area. Stop being sheep. We all know they are illegal! If the OP want's to run them its not our responsibility.
Matt and Joe shut the f**k up. I'v got a sore head stop being petty both of you. What does it matter if Matt is josho?
They can be illegal as much as they want, they're becoming a popular modification because people actually like to see further than the edge of their bonnet at night time so the police won't be able to stop it now will they :)
You used to have HID's so you can shut up aswell :tongue:
I did yes. Newer had anyone flash at me or never had any of my mates in front of me telling me that my lights dazzled them. I also never had any problem with my MOT; so what's the problem?
As you say it's up to the owner.
Just I don't agree with people saying they are 100% fine when they are actually illegal, if OP knows this and chooses to run them then who cares?
I can't find people saying they are 100% legal. If someone doesn't know the facts they shouldn't be advising.
Well, the whole "they are fine run them" it's a bit misleading. We should simply have a sticky saying "No they aren't legal but they aren't that noticable either".
And Joe, in all fairness, how many times does this actualy get asked? I was being sarcastic. :grin:
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So why not just say that in the first place instead of posting up this nonsence..
Who is that directed to?
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What a gay thread.
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What a gay thread.
Another MK3 section thread that has gone down hill :rolleyes:
/Lock?
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So why not just say that in the first place instead of posting up this nonsence..
Who is that directed to?
Josh, sorry, Matt
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So why not just say that in the first place instead of posting up this nonsence..
Who is that directed to?
Me.
HIDs AREN'T STRICTLY LEGAL, BUT YOU PROBABLY WON'T GET ANY STICK FOR RUNNING THEM IF THEY ARE ALIGHNED PROPERLY.
They're fecking brilliant. That is all. :lipsrsealed:
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Right, from experience I have ran them in:
1. Projector Headlamps ... 8000k on my previous car - Never failed an MOT, never had problem from the Police.
2. Ran 8000k bluer bulbs in a bog standard pair of headlamps (my Golf infact) and never had any problems in MOT or Police, I have since sold them and now back to sh!tty yellow bulbs just because I got bored off the 'extra' attention it brings and the fact I finally realised it doesn't suit my car as ive kept most things standard on it.
So the verdict being. Yes they are illegal by the book, however police don't care unless they just feel like doing you for having them one day, most MOT testers don't care, but again depending on where you go, you could fail.
They are ONLY LEGAL if you have headlight washers, and the lamps are projector lenses and all aligned correctly etc.
EDIT: also, they cost around £40-£50 on ebay and easily removeable ... so worst comes to worst, run them when you feel like, like a seasonal thing, its a 5 min job to take them out before an MOT aswell ... you know how it is.
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Right, from experience I have ran them in:
1. Projector Headlamps ... 8000k on my previous car - Never failed an MOT, never had problem from the Police.
2. Ran 8000k bluer bulbs in a bog standard pair of headlamps (my Golf infact) and never had any problems in MOT or Police, I have since sold them and now back to sh!tty yellow bulbs just because I got bored off the 'extra' attention it brings and the fact I finally realised it doesn't suit my car as ive kept most things standard on it.
So the verdict being. Yes they are illegal by the book, however police don't care unless they just feel like doing you for having them one day, most MOT testers don't care, but again depending on where you go, you could fail.
They are ONLY LEGAL if you have headlight washers, and the lamps are projector lenses, auto levelling system and all aligned correctly etc.
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Yeah sorry, and a auto levelling system as above.
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You people got eye problems? I'm blind in one eye and still don't think I need to make my hellas brighter.
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You people got eye problems? I'm blind in one eye and still don't think I need to make my hellas brighter.
Hellas are notorious for being like candles.
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You people got eye problems? I'm blind in one eye and still don't think I need to make my hellas brighter.
Hellas are notorious for being like candles.
How do you work that out?
Projector lens vs crappy VW non-projector?
Standard lights are truly abysmal.
Better light everytime from the Hellas.
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You people got eye problems? I'm blind in one eye and still don't think I need to make my hellas brighter.
Hellas are notorious for being like candles.
How do you work that out?
Projector lens vs crappy VW non-projector?
Standard lights are truly abysmal.
Better light everytime from the Hellas.
No matter how much I cleaned the lens or had them adjusted they just didn't produce a lot of light. Shady and I have has the same experience hence the need for HIDs. I agree with the standard lights being just as bad.
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i found my hella twins ALOT better than the standard lights, they were not too bad at all i didnt think, with the HIDs they are VERY good...
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Is it correct that it is just the main beams are HID? If so what bulbs are you guys running for the high beams?
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Is it correct that it is just the main beams are HID? If so what bulbs are you guys running for the high beams?
You wont need hight beams. It will make little difference to the light. I will recommend some whiter side lights as it doesn't look right having standards.
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Cheers Adam for clearing that up. So I guess thats why you need proper focusing lenses then. And does this mean your high beam becomes pretty much redundant?
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Cheers Adam for clearing that up. So I guess thats why you need proper focusing lenses then. And does this mean your high beam becomes pretty much redundant?
Yep projector lenses. Yeah high beam becomes redundant with 6k bulbs as I found.