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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: greencode on 28 October 2009, 22:15
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Okay, I was here last night asking about the standard 1.8 GTI and I think we all know that I shouldn't bother with that one. So I turn to the 1.8T which I understand is a great car. Now the questions. I've been looking on Autotrader and there seems to be a few under the £3k mark but they all tend to be over the 100,000 miles marker. But on the positive note they all seem to have only 1 or 2 owners from new which obviously must mean they've been reliable cars.
I understand that I can't base my decision solely on the amount of miles it's done and there's obviously other factors such as FSH. But how does everyone find their 1.8T - any issues, problems etc?
I know I'm asking a lot of questions - and I apologise for that - but I really want to get this one right. Thanks in advance for any useful tips or advice.
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Get a 1.8t. Nuff said.
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hi mate, ive owned my Golf 1.8 turbo since may 2008... its been a great care for mw personally...engine wise the care is faultless aslong as you keep it well mainted and service it reguarly. Its on 99' T-reg and i bought it at 90k on the clock and its on 104k now, and still running fine... although i did have to have my gearbox replaced lol :cry:
you just have to watch out for common faults... water leak (i have a water leak), electrical problems but these are quite general faults which you find with most cars.
Aslong as you find a clean and well maintained example you will be fine... :smiley:
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Millage isnt too much of a concern mate, my 1.8turbo octavia vrs is on 136,000 miles now and still drives perfect. Aslong as it has fsh etc then it should be ok, Just look out for dodgy rear axle bushes on the mk4 golf.
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there are some sh!tters out there, take someone mk4-savvy with you when you go to view if possible!
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listen for any unusual noises and nocks.. and when you plant your foot make sure the turbo is pulling as its should through the rev range.. also yh the electrics are crap :lipsrsealed:
personally i would say dont get one unless its got FSH.. if they are regulary serviced at the right times and cooled down before booting and warmed up before driving then they are donkeys will last forever :wink: :grin:
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listen for any unusual noises and nocks.. and when you plant your foot make sure the turbo is pulling as its should through the rev range.. also yh the electrics are crap :lipsrsealed:
personally i would say dont get one unless its got FSH.. if they are regulary serviced at the right times and cooled down before booting and warmed up before driving then they are donkeys will last forever :wink: :grin:
Nice, really appreciate your advice on this. There certainly seem to be some good ones out their with FSH and only 1 owner from new - which must be a good thing (I know if I've ever had a nightmare car in the past I just get rid of it as soon as!)
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in one word "yes" ...comimg from fords and mazda's the golf is a whole different class to what i'm used to . Get the 1.8T , it will be one of the best moves you ever make , just make sure it has a good preferably full history ....
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I bought a private one owner 40k (with FSH) 1.8T on a 53 plate for just over 5k in July and it is great.
Get one! :smiley:
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I brought my last month on a 99 plate with 125k on the clock 5 owners and fsh, ive done nothing but :grin: since the day a got it, so i say go for mate your not regret it lol
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I brought my last month on a 99 plate with 125k on the clock 5 owners and fsh, ive done nothing but :grin: since the day a got it, so i say go for mate your not regret it lol
Out of interest, how much did you pay for yours?
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hi,
ive just picked up a late 2000 mk4 1.8T gti with only 44,000 miles on clock for just under £3000 !!!
all genuine miles as the buyer proved with mot certificates !!
so far id def have to say..........best car ever owned !
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hi,
ive just picked up a late 2000 mk4 1.8T gti with only 44,000 miles on clock for just under £3000 !!!
all genuine miles as the buyer proved with mot certificates !!
so far id def have to say..........best car ever owned !
Wow, great price - where did you find that little beauty?
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local advert (nothern ireland)
thought id was def a clocked job but owner was able to prove the miles as genuine....!!! bargin of the year eh ?!
owner was only doing 4.5K - 5K miles a year......!
................just have the hassel of selling a 306 now before i can get into the cockpit of the golf !!!! :rolleyes:
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local advert (nothern ireland)
thought id was def a clocked job but owner was able to prove the miles as genuine....!!! bargin of the year eh ?!
owner was only doing 4.5K - 5K miles a year......!
................just have the hassel of selling a 306 now before i can get into the cockpit of the golf !!!! :rolleyes:
Quite outstanding work - well done.
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Yes, yes you should!
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no, get a clio :laugh:
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anybody wana buy a 1.6 peugeot 306 !?!?!?!?!..... :grin:
ive got a nice 1.8T just waiting to be unleashed in a garage !!!!...cant move it until the 306 goes.....
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There are some bargains about. I got mine in Aug after a bit of searching... Paid £2250 for it - 99 V plate, 127k but lowered, Audi TT wheels, powerflex rear bushes and dog leg, new engine mounts all round, new window mechs and bits and bobs which are prone for failing, remapped etc.. so not a bad buy despite the milage. It drives MUCH better than milage suggests also.
(http://www.illusional.co.uk/golf/pics/230809/IMG_5018%20copy.jpg)
If this is of use by all means print and use it, something I collated when looking @ the Golfs to buy...
http://www.illusional.co.uk/stuff/golfguide.doc
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Yes.
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If this is of use by all means print and use it, something I collated when looking @ the Golfs to buy...
http://www.illusional.co.uk/stuff/golfguide.doc
Thanks for this - very useful. I've got my MK3 16V at the moment and as I don't use it much I'm prepared to hold off until the right one comes my way.
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Make sure you get a decent one with low mileage. Mine had 62,000 on it but still needed bits doing. They do have loads of silly things that go wrong.
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They do have loads of silly things that go wrong.
Ain't that the truth!
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Mine had the following
Front lower wishbones
2 Front wheel bearings
Air flow meter
clutch master cylinder :angry:
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true that :sad:
was something does go wrong pain in the backside :lipsrsealed:
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I´ve got a 115 GTi 03 plate 35k. It´s pretty much immaculate inside and out. I´m fairly happy with it but I´m starting to think maybe a 1.8t is the way forward. Has anybody owned both? Just how much difference is there?
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Just how much difference is there?
115bhp vs 150bhp - thats 35bhp difference before you've even remapped it
basically the difference is like night and day, chalk and cheese...............
but to answer the OP's question - no you shouldn't get one
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yea, just avoid the 2.0 gti, 1.8t or failing that get a TDI.
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really dont bother with the 2.0gti, it really shouldn't even deserve the gti badge its so feckin slow!!
I bought my 1.8t back in april ish, had 2 owners from new, 99 T plate, 87k on the clock and few niggles, water leak due to broken pollen filter cover, the rear axle bushes are going which vw say is normal for a car of this milage, now have a leak on the front passenger A post, not sure wether its the windscreen seal fecked or the door seal. and got it for a steal at £1,895. can honestly say this car is what driving is about, even going to the supermarket is fun. cant recommend getting one enough. good luck hunting, hope you get a good un!
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After almost 18 months I'm just revisiting my thoughts of buying a 1.8t. I've currently got a 98 2.0 16v golf but have always liked the look of the mk4 and the prices seem to be really good at the moment. I'd be looking at around a 2000 reg but just wondered about the 150bhp and 180bhp models. Is there are huge amount of difference and therefore fore should I try to get the 180. My current golf is still running great but I just fancy a change.
Also be interested to know about MPG. I currently get around 36 to the gallon.
Any thoughts or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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After almost 18 months I'm just revisiting my thoughts of buying a 1.8t. I've currently got a 98 2.0 16v golf but have always liked the look of the mk4 and the prices seem to be really good at the moment. I'd be looking at around a 2000 reg but just wondered about the 150bhp and 180bhp models. Is there are huge amount of difference and therefore fore should I try to get the 180. My current golf is still running great but I just fancy a change.
Any thoughts or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Buy a 150 and get it remapped unless you really need the 6spd box. :smiley:
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my trip computer says near on 30mpg over the past so many thousand miles of driving on my 1.8t, thismorning ont he way to work (13 miles frmo home) i got 27mpg
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Buy mine!
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Get one! great car, great fun and very reliable if looked after. yes it has silly problems but what car doesnt. OH and fairly good on fuel if driven right. 42.6 mpg on a 50mile drive the other day :smiley:
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yeah dont buy the 1.8 gti standard because its crap, good build quality bt horrible power to weight :sick:
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Okay, I was here last night asking about the standard 1.8 GTI and I think we all know that I shouldn't bother with that one.
Why not? It's a good car.
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Okay, I was here last night asking about the standard 1.8 GTI and I think we all know that I shouldn't bother with that one.
Why not? It's a good car.
good car, but not great, that engine needs a turbo!!!
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Okay, I was here last night asking about the standard 1.8 GTI and I think we all know that I shouldn't bother with that one.
Why not? It's a good car.
good car, but not great, that engine needs a turbo!!!
I see, so it's the old 'turbo is the best' horse being flogged again. :rolleyes:
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Okay, I was here last night asking about the standard 1.8 GTI and I think we all know that I shouldn't bother with that one.
Why not? It's a good car.
good car, but not great, that engine needs a turbo!!!
I see, so it's the old 'turbo is the best' horse being flogged again. :rolleyes:
you dont agree :huh:
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Turbo is best hence why most of the manufacturers nowadays are making their new performance cars with turbo's!!!
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well i have a 1.8 gti n/a and i think it needs more power, bt as said its ok for cruiseing about
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Okay, thanks again for your replies. I only really use my car at the weekend and I went out in my lovely clean MK3 16V GTI today and loved it! I think I'm going to save my money for a bit longer and maybe revisit this again in the summer!
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Turbo is best hence why most of the manufacturers nowadays are making their new performance cars with turbo's!!!
It's not the best, it's a cheapshot at making a car go quicker.
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Okay, I was here last night asking about the standard 1.8 GTI and I think we all know that I shouldn't bother with that one.
Why not? It's a good car.
good car, but not great, that engine needs a turbo!!!
I see, so it's the old 'turbo is the best' horse being flogged again. :rolleyes:
you dont agree :huh:
I don't agree that it's not a great car. For just a matter of accelerating quicker from a lagging turbo I'm not going to enter the turbo is the be all and end all of cars, because it's not.
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Ive got a 1.8t on a W plate.
now done 113k fsh and is sweet as a nut!
Its not exactly perfect on the body work side nothing £300 in a body shop wouldnt solve!
only paid £1500 for mine 9 months ago with a fresh mot! :drool:
Great car only problem is mpg for me! getin around 30mpg on avarage!
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Okay, I was here last night asking about the standard 1.8 GTI and I think we all know that I shouldn't bother with that one.
Why not? It's a good car.
good car, but not great, that engine needs a turbo!!!
I see, so it's the old 'turbo is the best' horse being flogged again. :rolleyes:
you dont agree :huh:
I don't agree that it's not a great car. For just a matter of accelerating quicker from a lagging turbo I'm not going to enter the turbo is the be all and end all of cars, because it's not.
i agree about turbos not being the only answer, but can hardly call the 1.8t laggy, its quite responsive
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Okay, I was here last night asking about the standard 1.8 GTI and I think we all know that I shouldn't bother with that one.
Why not? It's a good car.
good car, but not great, that engine needs a turbo!!!
I see, so it's the old 'turbo is the best' horse being flogged again. :rolleyes:
you dont agree :huh:
I don't agree that it's not a great car. For just a matter of accelerating quicker from a lagging turbo I'm not going to enter the turbo is the be all and end all of cars, because it's not.
i agree about turbos not being the only answer, but can hardly call the 1.8t laggy, its quite responsive
Have a go with a car that has the 1.8t power but without the turbo, you'll soon learn what lag means.
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Okay, I was here last night asking about the standard 1.8 GTI and I think we all know that I shouldn't bother with that one.
Why not? It's a good car.
good car, but not great, that engine needs a turbo!!!
I see, so it's the old 'turbo is the best' horse being flogged again. :rolleyes:
you dont agree :huh:
I don't agree that it's not a great car. For just a matter of accelerating quicker from a lagging turbo I'm not going to enter the turbo is the be all and end all of cars, because it's not.
i agree about turbos not being the only answer, but can hardly call the 1.8t laggy, its quite responsive
Have a go with a car that has the 1.8t power but without the turbo, you'll soon learn what lag means.
i have. still dont know what lag your on about, drive any 80s big power turbo car and youll know what lag is.
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if your looking for a 1.8T mines for sale.
2003 1.8T 180bhp 6 speed 98k. mot'ed today so has 13 months on it! cambelt and service done 1k ago.
£3495 ono :wink:
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Just done an ad for mine if you don't have that much cash... I'm after 2600 ono, enjoy:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=179253.0
Full MOT, 6 months tax, loads spent and changed in last 18 months, will last years and drives great.
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Im looking for one aswell only got £1500 at the very most to spend though :undecided:
Id prefer a 3door but i know i wont get one for that price,might end up buying a cat d or c then do the work myself as i do body repair at college.
Obviosily id get it remap eventully as i had a 306 gti before and that was quick,much much faster then a standard 1.8 tubby
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yes, i have a 2.0gti its like a bus, but is very reliable, but insurance on 1.8t can be expensive, also petrol price has to be considered nowadays, 1.31.9 per litre its just cost me
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Everyone here keeps saying there 30mpg but iv known most to get 40mpg driven properly so you lot must thrash em :laugh:
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Everyone here keeps saying there 30mpg but iv known most to get 40mpg driven properly so you lot must thrash em :laugh:
out of a 1.8t, icant even get 20mpg out mine,(2.0 gtwhy)
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That cant be right! :shocked: You should get the lamba sensor looked at the cat converter there nown to kill mpg!
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That cant be right! :shocked: You should get the lamba sensor looked at the cat converter there nown to kill mpg!
you may have a point there, as when i go over about 4000rpm there is a very strange burning smell (similar to a metally burn smell) that definetly isnt coming from the engine bay
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Might aswell get it checked out because they should average around 35mpg
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Might aswell get it checked out because they should average around 35mpg
will do, cheers
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get one!!!! look on pistonheads not just autotrader.....mines done 115k and is fine. solong as it serviced well and look to of been looked after u shud be ok vw build quality.....get a standard as poss then u dnt have concerns about wat some halfords junkie may have done to it.lol. :wink: goodluck with the search.
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Im looking for one aswell only got £1500 at the very most to spend though :undecided:
Id prefer a 3door but i know i wont get one for that price,might end up buying a cat d or c then do the work myself as i do body repair at college.
Obviosily id get it remap eventully as i had a 306 gti before and that was quick,much much faster then a standard 1.8 tubby
The thing is dude its a false sense of economy ...
For £1500 i'm in very much doubt the car will have good history.Wheres you can get half decent AGU's for £2500 from the likes of someone on here who's probs had clutch/suspension/bushs/cambelts replaced in there ownership plus you might even find a nice modded one for that.
If you buy a bit of a run down one for £1500 you can EASILY spend £1000 just getting it up to half decent driving/running condition
I'm in the process of pricing up what my car needs at the moment as its been sitting for almost 6 years so it basically needs everything, And i'm getting totals on paper of over £2000 :shocked:...And that's if I don't go K03s route LOL....
But don't get me wrong its fully serviced and mot'ed drives fine...but I want it to drive/look great,And if you just 30% petrol head u'll end up spending loads cos you'll never be happy :grin:
From my own experiance it's best to spend more in the first place.But you never know you could find a well cared for,well maintained car for £1500 but it's higthly unlikley :wink:
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Aslong as it's abit of history it shouldn't be that bad should it!? Bodywork dosnt have to be spotless. mot is a must so if the bushes ect get an advisory Il know what to expect right?
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mabey mine is a little bit on the cheap side for £1800 as it has full service history! :grin:
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Aslong as it's abit of history it shouldn't be that bad should it!? Bodywork dosnt have to be spotless. mot is a must so if the bushes ect get an advisory Il know what to expect right?
Well getting the oil changed every 12 months is about as much as most "normal" non car fans go too..But on 11 year old cars alot of other things need replacing.As said before you taking mech's at college? 12 year old suspension/boost pipes/bushes/ etc as said before most people won't change anything unless there MOT guy say's they must.
It's up to you dude.For instance as I said with my car it passed MOT fine but its still needs a suspension refresh/pipes/clips replacing/brakes need attention bleeding out new fluid etc