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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: VWKev on 18 October 2009, 00:11
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Done a 60 mile round trip tonight and it cost me basically £12 for those 60 miles.
All we were doing was something like 90% motorway and the rest normal roads. Never went over 70mph as were still breaking her in.
Is this the norm then for the mk6 ? She's a thirstly little b!tch if thats the norm.
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Done a 60 mile round trip tonight and it cost me basically £12 for those 60 miles.
All we were doing was something like 90% motorway and the rest normal roads. Never went over 70mph as were still breaking her in.
Is this the norm then for the mk6 ? She's a thirstly little b!tch if thats the norm.
The first few hundred miles will always give you abnormally high fuel consumption. After 3000km, I am averaging 35mpg which, TBH, I am slightly disappointed with, considering that I drive quite carefully. The thing I have noticed about the GTI compared to other cars how consuption increases wildly when I have a little bit of fun :sad:
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The first few hundred miles will always give you abnormally high fuel consumption. After 3000km, I am averaging 35mpg which, TBH, I am slightly disappointed with, considering that I drive quite carefully. The thing I have noticed about the GTI compared to other cars how consuption increases wildly when I have a little bit of fun :sad:
But you have yours re-mapped!
You can't expect to make an additional 40 BHP and not burn fuel doing it.
GTI is like every other car...drive it like you are taking your Gran to church and you'll see late 30s MPG...but what's the point? Buy a diesel.
Drive it properly...and you'll see 20 something.
Them's the breaks...I think my Test Drive average was 20ish MPG - a figure I wouldn't expect to do much better than in normal usage, if I'm being honest.
I only get about 40 MPG out of my smelly-fuelled Fabia vRS despite everyone telling me it would do 55-60 MPG.
I would expect a GTI to deliver 20 something MPG is you use it 'properly'.
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Personally i think any 200+Bhp car which gets 35mpg on average is doing very well, The two Type R civics i have had only got 29/30 mpg and the misus fiesta ST only averaged 28mpg :shocked:
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I average 29-30 driving generally quite 'enthusiastically). I averaged 26'ish before the remap so the map increased efficiency by about 10%.
Yes she likes a drink though Kev, plodding around can get you up to 40 but it aint no fun.....
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You should have gone for DSG :):):):):):)
Sorry, couldn't resist
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I suppose after all the hype about the new GTI being frugal and green (170g/km) the fuel economy could be perceived to be a little disappointing... i think its more than fine, though a slightly larger tank would have been nice.
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I suppose after all the hype about the new GTI being frugal and green (170g/km) the fuel economy could be perceived to be a little disappointing... i think its more than fine, though a slightly larger tank would have been nice.
Any larger fuel tank would it not weigh the car down and also make the interior slightly smaller? In any case, I travelled from The Hague to Berlin on just one tank. I think thats a testimony of how economical the GTI is...
HM
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The way FSI works makes it prone to being a bit jekyl and hyde. If you accelerate gently and generally drive in a boring sort of way you get v good fuel economy for a 2.0T lump. But when you press the go pedal hard it really drinks it.
Running in will mean slightly higher consumption but although its class leading for what it is, its not a car to buy with fuel economy in mind.
Tootling around town with frequent stop starts absolutely mullers fuel consumption. I find though that long cruises are very economical (relatively speaking). This is mk5 experience but the engine share the FSI technology aren't all that different thought the mk6 is a bit better with fuel consumption and just be thankfull you don't NEED to fill up with 99 to get the best fuel economy.
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Bearing in mind I'm getting 36 mpg ish on my 60 mile round daily commute and I only ever used to get 43 from my Saab 93 150 diesel I'm more than satisfied. I think that's pretty good for a 200hp plus motor.
If I was doing a 60 mile stop and start commute then I would have seriously thought about buying the car as consumption does start to dip in those scenarios. However, it's the same old story - you takes your choice. I was really bored with diesel and it sounding like a tractor every morning (the wife still has a diesel) but I don't regret for a second the return to petrol and the inevitable extra few quid it costs a month.
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If I was doing a 60 mile stop and start commute then I would have seriously thought about buying the car as consumption does start to dip in those scenarios. However, it's the same old story - you takes your choice. I was really bored with diesel and it sounding like a tractor every morning (the wife still has a diesel) but I don't regret for a second the return to petrol and the inevitable extra few quid it costs a month.
I'm of the same view now.
If I was getting twice the economy, and a rewarding drive...I may have stuck with a diesel and put up with the noise and awful smell of the stuff.
But, when the difference is down to under 10 MPG, to have a quieter (less diesel rattle anyway) and ultimately rewarding car, then I'll take the hit.
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Done a 60 mile round trip tonight and it cost me basically £12 for those 60 miles.
All we were doing was something like 90% motorway and the rest normal roads. Never went over 70mph as were still breaking her in.
Is this the norm then for the mk6 ? She's a thirstly little b!tch if thats the norm.
if i had to choose between spending £12 on a monthly bus pass, or spending £12 on some unleaded so i could drive a kick arse GTI, i would choose the bus pass.
joke.
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You should have gone for DSG :):):):):):)
Sorry, couldn't resist
Then he would be doing at least 3mpg average less :tongue:
Thats the difference in real life between our mk5 GTI and our company mk5 GTI DSG in regular use on identical trips brim to brim driven by me (im old person so its driven normally im not a boy racer or young person with something to proove on the road)
The mk6 has similar gear ratios so i expect the same will be true with the mk6. I will wait and see as the company DSG Mk5 has just been replaced with a mk6 GTI DSG which due to been new is drinking fuel.
The funny thing is the 1.8 Mk1 does 38mpg average on a commute into the city ~13 better than the mk5 :grin:. Not far off the TDI130 we had :smug: The joys of low weight and smallish engines.
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I do find it offers slightly better consumption when filled with 99RON. Stopped using this a few tanks ago and I am now struggling to get 30mpg when driven normally and is restricted to busy road conditions. It also definately has less pull on 95RON.
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should have bought a diesel :tongue: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Its a GTI at the end of the day - what does fuel consumption matter?? (unless you're getting under 20mpg on a normal drive which would indicate a problem)
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I was really bored with diesel and it sounding like a tractor every morning (the wife still has a diesel) but I don't regret for a second the return to petrol and the inevitable extra few quid it costs a month.
If I was getting twice the economy, and a rewarding drive...I may have stuck with a diesel and put up with the noise and awful smell of the stuff.
But, when the difference is down to under 10 MPG, to have a quieter (less diesel rattle anyway) and ultimately rewarding car, then I'll take the hit.
Agree with all this - you chose to pay extra for a GTI because a lower model Golf wouldn't meet your requirements and it's the same with choosing petrol over diesel.
Having said that, if you really want to get higher mpg out of your car, there are driving techniques which will help (Warning: driving a GTI economically may induce coma).
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I drove over to Glasgow on Friday evening, and the M8 was quite busy. I was forced to drive economically, and even though the car is still young (about 1,000 miles) and a DSG, I was averaging 40mpg.
It does dip if you get enthusiastic though.
I also would wish for a bigger tank. The Peugeot took about 63 litres and I could rely on 400 miles to a tank, often 450, occasionally pushing 500 if I'd been really economical. Not a hope in the Golf, although obviously it's cheaper to fill the smaller tank.
Rolfe.
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It does dip if you get enthusiastic though.
Boy howdee :cry:
I also would wish for a bigger tank.
Me too: 55 litres is pretty disappointing. My Transit has a 110 litre tank and I can do 1200 miles before I need to refuel :nerd:
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Its a GTI at the end of the day - what does fuel consumption matter?? (unless you're getting under 20mpg on a normal drive which would indicate a problem)
I would have thought that would indicate a driver having a great time!
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Its a GTI at the end of the day - what does fuel consumption matter?? (unless you're getting under 20mpg on a normal drive which would indicate a problem)
I would have thought that would indicate a driver having a great time!
as in commuting to and from work, traffic, normal speeds and NOT like you've been stung up the backside by a wasp
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The Peugeot took about 63 litres
I would be extremely suprised if that was true 55 litres has been the industry norm for this size and sector of car for a very long time.
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The Peugeot took about 63 litres
I would be extremely suprised if that was true 55 litres has been the industry norm for this size and sector of car for a very long time.
the peugeot was very old :wink: :grin:
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GTi is supposed to do 38mpg combined. At least 90% of the trip yesterday was motorway. It never went over 70 mph.
My trip is just over 32 miles each way. It cost me £1.12 for super unleaded per litre. Thats got me nearly 11 litres which is around 2.5 gallons ? Maybe a tad less ? That should have got me roughly 95 miles. As I say, I dont roughly 65 mile round trip, all motorway apart from a few little roads so driving a huge chunk of the way in 6th gear, where did the other 1/3 of my fuel go ?
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Your car has next to no miles on you cannot expect to get anywere near average mpg with such low miles on the car. Our Mk5 GTI drunk the fuel until it loosened up.
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Your car has next to no miles on you cannot expect to get anywere near average mpg with such low miles on the car. Our Mk5 GTI drunk the fuel until it loosened up.
Oh, is that true Snoopy ? I didnt realise that.
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The fuel economy will improve with the next couple of thousand miles or so...
The TFSI / TSI engines are very sensitve to driving style with respect to fuel economy. I think you will probably struggle to see the claimed figures, they are determined in laboratry conditions and should be viewed only to compare one car to another rather than what you will see in real life.
To give you an idea I get about 25 mpg on my 20 minute commute of half city driving / half fast dual carriageway. The mk6 is obviously more economical but maybe gives you an idea of what to expect.
On the other hand, I've seen over 40 mpg taking it real easy on a long journey.
Forget fuel consumption, its a GTI :smiley:
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The Peugeot took about 63 litres
I would be extremely suprised if that was true 55 litres has been the industry norm for this size and sector of car for a very long time.
the peugeot was very old :wink: :grin:
Ok im wrong. It was a sort of standard for most makes but from experience with PSA (fixing the damb things for years) I should have known better for the french to follow any unwriten type format. I just had my brother tell me im wrong that there 60ltrs and that i should have known that from experience and that as always PSA like to be different.
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GTi is supposed to do 38mpg combined. At least 90% of the trip yesterday was motorway. It never went over 70 mph.
My trip is just over 32 miles each way. It cost me £1.12 for super unleaded per litre. Thats got me nearly 11 litres which is around 2.5 gallons ? Maybe a tad less ? That should have got me roughly 95 miles. As I say, I dont roughly 65 mile round trip, all motorway apart from a few little roads so driving a huge chunk of the way in 6th gear, where did the other 1/3 of my fuel go ?
I've noticed for fuel con it's really important how you accelerate. A couple of quick runs from stop (not a wheel spin fast but fast) and the figure drops instantly. If you take your time accelerating - you get the result. Not that I'm recommending that driving style but for fuel con that's it.
Plus the difference between 60 and 70 is huge for fuel con!
Personaly I wouldn't bother about the fuel con yet. It you keep getting 25mpg constanly over the next 6 months or so that's another story. But whether it's 31 or 35 mpg... Driving style makes a huge difference
Enjoy! :)
P.S. I get 38-39 mpg on my daily route (21 miles each way). 400 miles per tank. The computer shows 31.5 mpg from new over 1600 miles
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The fuel economy will improve with the next couple of thousand miles or so...
The TFSI / TSI engines are very sensitve to driving style with respect to fuel economy. I think you will probably struggle to see the claimed figures, they are determined in laboratry conditions and should be viewed only to compare one car to another rather than what you will see in real life.
To give you an idea I get about 25 mpg on my 20 minute commute of half city driving / half fast dual carriageway. The mk6 is obviously more economical but maybe gives you an idea of what to expect.
On the other hand, I've seen over 40 mpg taking it real easy on a long journey.
Forget fuel consumption, its a GTI :smiley:
I know what it is, and I understand claimed mpg. What I didnt understand was that if it claims 38mpg but gives me 23 mpg then there is something wrong somewhere. If its because the car is new then thats fine, I hope to see an improvement as time goes on.
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Done a 60 mile round trip tonight and it cost me basically £12 for those 60 miles.
All we were doing was something like 90% motorway and the rest normal roads. Never went over 70mph as were still breaking her in.
Is this the norm then for the mk6 ? She's a thirstly little b!tch if thats the norm.
Yes..sounds about right...
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Yes tis the Norm , well for the TFSi anyway, TSI should be better
Perhaps turn off the heated seats and switch the Aircon OFF
:laugh:
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Done a 60 mile round trip tonight and it cost me basically £12 for those 60 miles.
All we were doing was something like 90% motorway and the rest normal roads. Never went over 70mph as were still breaking her in.
Is this the norm then for the mk6 ? She's a thirstly little b!tch if thats the norm.
Yes..sounds about right...
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Yes tis the Norm , well for the TFSi anyway, TSI should be better
Perhaps turn off the heated seats and switch the Aircon OFF
:laugh:
Heated seats and air con were not on at all for the journey.
At the 23mpg I was getting thats even lower than the Urban 28 mpg I should get. I did say around and probably more than the 90% I said was motorway which I'd class as extra urban, the figures quoted for that are 48 mpg.
That sounds right to you ? Doesnt sound right to me and I'm no mathematitian.
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I think you will probably struggle to see the claimed figures, they are determined in laboratry conditions and should be viewed only to compare one car to another rather than what you will see in real life.
ub7rm is spot on here
and as others have said your engine is brand new and will take a few thousand miles before you see its true performance. VAG engines tend to take longer to loosen up than other manufacturers.
Upside of this is they tend to last longer and not lose as much power over the course of their life
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I expect the mk6 will do better than our mk5 when run in from what i have read in the past. In general our mk5 does ~30mpg average daily and mid 30s on a gentle run. Most owners who drive more enthusiastic than us seem to be mid 20s av. Also the mk5 GTI DSG from work when i used them back to back was doing 3mpg less than the manual.
Only way imo to test mpg is brim to brim method everything else is just guess work.
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Dunno whats wrong with yours Kev.. mine gave me 450miles to a full tank. That was in the first week of ownership.
Maybe your cars just nuts like you :laugh: :laugh:
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Dunno whats wrong with yours Kev.. mine gave me 450miles to a full tank. That was in the first week of ownership.
Maybe your cars just nuts like you :laugh: :laugh:
Like owner like car. :grin:
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Dunno whats wrong with yours Kev.. mine gave me 450miles to a full tank. That was in the first week of ownership.
Maybe your cars just nuts like you :laugh: :laugh:
Like owner like car. :grin:
How do you manage to do 450 miles to a tank, and still manage to slaughter a mk5 GTi?
Just a one off a guess :lipsrsealed: :wink:
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Dunno whats wrong with yours Kev.. mine gave me 450miles to a full tank. That was in the first week of ownership.
Maybe your cars just nuts like you :laugh: :laugh:
Like owner like car. :grin:
How do you manage to do 450 miles to a tank, and still manage to slaughter a mk5 GTi?
Just a one off a guess :lipsrsealed: :wink:
It was the running in period so no slaughtering. Was on a drive upto scotland so all single a-roads and alot of time being stuck behind slow traffic. I cant see it happening again... but would like to know whats the most someone can get out of a tank. It certainly wont be me as Im usually just town driving unless im going away.
Averaging below 30mpg at the moment. Although Im sure you remember when I managed 36mpg in the R32 in granny mode :grin: :grin:
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I think you will probably struggle to see the claimed figures, they are determined in laboratry conditions and should be viewed only to compare one car to another rather than what you will see in real life.
ub7rm is spot on here
and as others have said your engine is brand new and will take a few thousand miles before you see its true performance. VAG engines tend to take longer to loosen up than other manufacturers.
Upside of this is they tend to last longer and not lose as much power over the course of their life
You won't see claimed MPG figuires on a VAG engine until it's done between 5k and 10k miles. Our A3 2.0T Sportback will do 35mpg on a run but will only do 26mpg around town. This is lower than the book states but as has been said, the tests that are done for published MPG are in a lab on rollers. Hardly real world driving.
Oh and turning your air con off won't make hardly any difference as the GTi has Climate control so the compressor is only running when and if required...
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Fuel consumption figures on a hot hatch forum are so sad!!
If you want mpg buy a sh!tty low powered diesel!
If you want a fun hot hatch with power then put up with it :rolleyes:
And before anyone says a remapped diesel is not and never will be a fun hot hatch with the awful noise, 300rpm power band, poor weight distribution and the need for a remap (if it aint fast standard - it aint fast!)
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Stolen from another site.
http://www.spritmonitor.de/en/ (http://www.spritmonitor.de/en/)
Real world figures on MPG. I think if you register you can have MPG rather than l/100km
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As I say, I dont roughly 65 mile round trip, all motorway apart from a few little roads so driving a huge chunk of the way in 6th gear, where did the other 1/3 of my fuel go ?
You mean you aren't taking TT's advice when running it in by staying in the one gear on the motorway!! :laugh:
I felt stupid on Saturday going through to Perth up and down the gears.
Folk would overtake me and then 20 minutes later I'd catch them up and fly past them.
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Fuel consumption figures on a hot hatch forum are so sad!!
If you want mpg buy a sh!tty low powered diesel!
If you want a fun hot hatch with power then put up with it :rolleyes:
And before anyone says a remapped diesel is not and never will be a fun hot hatch with the awful noise, 300rpm power band, poor weight distribution and the need for a remap (if it aint fast standard - it aint fast!)
As usual, another helpful reply from Julie.
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I drove to Hay-on-wye from North Wales this weekend, no motorways just bendy hilly roads. Had 308 miles on the clock when I left, trip is about 120 miles one way. Am taking TTs advice re running in so only went up to 3.5K RPM. Averaged 42 MPG (DSG).
I'm happy with that. My GT TDI would do 62 MPG. But I didn't buy the GTI for economy.
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Fuel consumption figures on a hot hatch forum are so sad!!
If you want mpg buy a sh!tty low powered diesel!
If you want a fun hot hatch with power then put up with it :rolleyes:
And before anyone says a remapped diesel is not and never will be a fun hot hatch with the awful noise, 300rpm power band, poor weight distribution and the need for a remap (if it aint fast standard - it aint fast!)
As usual, another helpful reply from Julie.
If your bothered about mpg dont buy a hothatch! Other than the figure on the dash i have no idea what mine really gets, i fill it up when its out and thats it!
This would be perfect for you mate, proven 100mpg
http://manchester.gumtree.com/manchester/32/43330932.html
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Fuel consumption figures on a hot hatch forum are so sad!!
If you want mpg buy a sh!tty low powered diesel!
If you want a fun hot hatch with power then put up with it :rolleyes:
And before anyone says a remapped diesel is not and never will be a fun hot hatch with the awful noise, 300rpm power band, poor weight distribution and the need for a remap (if it aint fast standard - it aint fast!)
As usual, another helpful reply from Julie.
If your bothered about mpg dont buy a hothatch! Other than the figure on the dash i have no idea what mine really gets, i fill it up when its out and thats it!
This would be perfect for you mate, proven 100mpg
http://manchester.gumtree.com/manchester/32/43330932.html
It's not that I'm bothered. I was simply wondering why the mpg was so low compared to the figures listed. I wanted to find out if others had the same experience.
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Stop worrying and drive the bloody thing!
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Stop worrying and drive the bloody thing!
I'd rather post topics that I'd like to discuss without w@nkers coming here to ruin a perfectly good discussion.
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Stop worrying and drive the bloody thing!
I'd rather post topics that I'd like to discuss without w@nkers coming here to ruin a perfectly good discussion.
I think most people in this section would, unfortunately you came along and they had to bring in a mod!
Stop whinging because your mpg is a little bit low, its a new engine; what do you expect?
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Stop worrying and drive the bloody thing!
I'd rather post topics that I'd like to discuss without w@nkers coming here to ruin a perfectly good discussion.
I think most people in this section would, unfortunately you came along and they had to bring in a mod!
Stop whinging because your mpg is a little bit low, its a new engine; what do you expect?
What's you're problem ? Your a constant pr1ck and a constant pain in the neck.
p.s. It's good for the ego to know a mod was brought in here especially for me.
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Don't you ever learn? If you must hurl insults at each other, please use Private Messages rather than the public boards.