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General => The garage => Topic started by: th3_f15t on 25 May 2009, 15:38
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Hey all.
Has anyone here taken a Golf GTi (mark II) and swapped the engine over for a G60 engine from a Corrado or Golf before?
Also, anyone know or used a 1.8 litre 16 vavle turbo engine in their car?
Would be cool to see if anyone has, conducting some research at the minute.
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Yes has been done many times.
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I've had a quick search through the Project pages but not seen a G60 engine transplant project. Can someone link me to one somewhere?
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havent actualy seen meany g60 swaps been done recently, it's pritty much as per retrofiting a PB but you have g60 enigne and a few extra bits of pipework to install get loom from car with hazzard light switch in same place and its plug and play.
challenge will be finding a g60 lump thats any good
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I would pick a 1.8t to be honest much more tuneable.
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The 1.8 20 vavle turbo engine? I've heard they aren't that great and break down a lot.
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The 1.8 20 vavle turbo engine? I've heard they aren't that great and break down a lot.
No sorry I think it is a better engine than a G60, the supercharger has lots of issues.
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The 1.8 20 vavle turbo engine? I've heard they aren't that great and break down a lot.
I've never met a G60 owner that hasn't bemoaned reliability.
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provided you service them regular 1.8Ts are plenty reliable, only get shaky when attempting silly power on crap fuel/stock internals.
Reckon G60 is the 'heart' choice 1.8T would be the 'head' choice.
If you really want a 'charger, and let's be honest who doesn't? Check out the site there's a few threads with links to loads of sites.
Bahn Brenner in the states etc.
If you were going to the trouble why not get a mk3 8v 2.0 and sort out some SAM software running an eaton/rotrex charger?
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g60 is a lot less work. find a good motor and it'll basicly drop in
if you dont mind lots of work get a big eaton tvs bolt it to an abf with forged guts and ms2 extra.
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g60 is a lot less work. find a good motor and it'll basicly drop in
if you dont mind lots of work get a big eaton tvs bolt it to an abf with forged guts and ms2 extra.
This was my idea, but need to a) get my car back, b) drop ABF in c) sort out a million and one other little things... :rolleyes:
But one day in the non too distant future, ok next 5yrs, I will terrify myself with the fabled 'charged 16v.
Can't wait :wink:
http://www.bahnbrenner.com/about/15/G60_G_Lader_16V_Supercharged
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enlightenment for golf = boosted 16v
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enlightenment for golf = boosted 16v
I agree, saving the pennies for the bits I need, plus I fancy a LSD to utilise that power :wink:
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i got 4wd :smiley: still want an lsd tho
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ive done the swop, over a year hasnt missed a beat, no mythically charger problems or engine problems. if you look after it well it will look after you, treat it like crap and yes it will probably bite you in the ass and wallet.
i love the noise, and it might be simpler and not as tuneable as a 20vt but you wont beat the noise it makes :grin:
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Make the noise, I live for the noise!! :grin:
4x4, 16v, 'charger, it's only a few steps away from your very own Limited. I'd have love to have built my black 5dr into a Limited, but alas tinworm.
Dolly, you have a 'charged ABF? sweet. What management and charger are you using? Any info would be appricated as I need "the noise" in my life...
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Don't forget you colud also do this to your 8v:t3 turbo, custom manifold, double stacked metal head gasket, cossie injectors and megasquirt. Should see 200 bhp be more satisfying to build and alot cheaper than a G60. Or turbo a G60 block and have a rock solid engine and no G60 problems.
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g60's need 60,000 mile overhaul whitch isn't that magor if done before problems develop costs more to do sme cambelts.
i think the g60 got it's reputation from companies doing crap rebuilds and some owners doing retarded mods. 200bhp and reliablity can be done happily if corners are not cut. cut corners and reliablity goes out the window a lot of g60 enthusiasts seem to think the poor quality ill fitting seal kits are mostly to blame, as well as people removeing the boost return hose. the charger likes the oil mist and vapors from the engine breather as that what keeps the tip seals happy
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mines an 8v sorry to disapoint. my ibiza has an ABF maybe if i put the 2 together.... lol ive deleted the boost return at the moment as a trail thing, its very noisey and ive heard mixed reports about it causing problems. i do use a charger lubricant though.
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mines an 8v sorry to disapoint. my ibiza has an ABF maybe if i put the 2 together.... lol ive deleted the boost return at the moment as a trail thing, its very noisey and ive heard mixed reports about it causing problems. i do use a charger lubricant though.
Don't think a 'charged 8v wouldn't disappoint, just think a 'charged 16v would be better :laugh:
Seriously though I want to do this, buut will have to focus on getting the ABF in the valver first.
As to deleting the boost return, I agree with danny_p on this, it's there for a reason. I appreciate that you are using lubricant, but would it not just be easier to have the boost return connected and keep the 'charger happy?
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G60s and the charger are fine and the same as any other engine if you look after them and maintain them properly. The problems I've had with my Rallye are not engine or charger but other parts of the damn thing. :cry: Don't forget these engines are up to 20 years old these days so a poorly maintained one is probably doing well to still be running.
The pull on the G60s, especially in third is just wicked. :cool:
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G60s and the charger are fine and the same as any other engine if you look after them and maintain them properly. The problems I've had with my Rallye are not engine or charger but other parts of the damn thing. :cry: Don't forget these engines are up to 20 years old these days so a poorly maintained one is probably doing well to still be running.
The pull on the G60s, especially in third is just wicked. :cool:
Yeah, defo, mate of a mate has a mint corrado G60, in the words of Elwood, it's got some pick up :grin:
Guy i used to work with had a G40 which was bit tatty but he had it debadged and it was a total sleeper.
Persevere with the Rallye, perhaps there's some sort of grant you can get from the government or VW toward keeping a piece of auotmotive history up to spec? :wink: