Hyperchips

[John@DNA]

Right, I've just been to their site.  I think the line, 'you get what you pay for' comes to mind.  As Topher says, they claim the same increase in bhp for both the Golf GTI and Edition 30, but there are other things that really got me thinking, these people are playing fast and loose...

1.  No attention to detail on their website... they've got a pic of the Golf W12 Concept car from last year with the caption 'Golf GTI' where they claim to increase the GTI's power from 140bhp to 185bhp???! WTF   and another where they seem to think that the a picture of a silver Golf GTI with a clear front shot showing the grill saying GTI - the caption however says Golf GT    OK, I thought maybe they have communication problem with the web designers and maybe the product is ok... so I went to have a look at their claims for the R32.

2.  They seem to think the Mk5 R32 produces 241bhp?! Its the Mk4 that has 241bhp - the Mk5 has a factory output of 250bhp. By now I'm thinking that these guys are talking out of their backsides because they claim that their chip gives the R32 261bhp - an increase of 20bhp on a NA car?  I don't think so.  I have read countless posts and spoken to Revo and a remap can only produce VERY limited bhp increases.  You might be able to get 10-15bhp if you combine a remap with bolt-on mods, but then its debatable as to what is actually giving that increase in power.  But 20 bhp with a remap?  I bet they believe in Santa and the Christmas Fairy too.

3.  The final warning sign for me was that they either offer to post you this chip - a big no-no and one of the reasons why TT doesn't like Superchips and their Bluefin product (amongst many others and I have to say, I think he is right about them) or some 'engineer' comes round and fits it for you - without a RR and proper diagnostics like checking your car FIRST before the remap to highlight any possible issues and then tweaking the settings to obtain an optimal setting for your car.  

Conclusion:  I would strongly advise your friend to stay away.  Heck, if he doesn't want to spend too much, get the Superchips Bluefin from JKM - they have a special offer on at the moment and I think its a sub £300 price.  Although I wouldn't use them, I would take them over Hypercr8p anyday.

Where's TT anyone  

Some of the non performance orientated NA models you can get +20bhp from as from the factory their mapping is more conservative, but yeah not all.

[topher]

Now now illyun .. we don't know anything about these guys yet , they could be very good. The point of my post above is that a lot of 'tuning companies' these days simply have a universal obd remapping tool for which they can buy batches of maps for standard cars. If it's one of those then the chances are the person flashing your ecu has no idea about your car (or anyone elses) other than how to connect to the obd port and click 'upload map'. Or you might get lucky and have an engineer/technician who actually knows what he's doing and is fully equipped with knowledge of scanning for faults etc and will really look after your car. The thing is you just won't know until someone finds out for themselves.
A great example of this would be Rtech.. noone on here had heard of them last year but I paid them a visit to see what they were all about. They've now overtaken REVO as the most popular tuner among the mk4s on here and have amazing feedback. The book/cover rule firmly applies imo!

[illyun]

Now now illyun .. we don't know anything about these guys yet , they could be very good.

I agreed.. before visiting their website.  They aren't doing any favours for themselves with their mistakes and dubious unqualified claims....  I think I was rather easy on them.  TT on the other hand.... 

[Rhyso]

Now now illyun .. we don't know anything about these guys yet , they could be very good. The point of my post above is that a lot of 'tuning companies' these days simply have a universal obd remapping tool for which they can buy batches of maps for standard cars. If it's one of those then the chances are the person flashing your ecu has no idea about your car (or anyone elses) other than how to connect to the obd port and click 'upload map'. Or you might get lucky and have an engineer/technician who actually knows what he's doing and is fully equipped with knowledge of scanning for faults etc and will really look after your car. The thing is you just won't know until someone finds out for themselves.
A great example of this would be Rtech.. noone on here had heard of them last year but I paid them a visit to see what they were all about. They've now overtaken REVO as the most popular tuner among the mk4s on here and have amazing feedback. The book/cover rule firmly applies imo!

fully agree with all of that and i was of the same opinion until earlier this year

having now met Nick on several occasions i cannot praise him enough as he has transformed my TDi  

[topher]

I agree the website is rather offputting, but that could just be an incompetent webmaster letting the side down

[illyun]

Now now illyun .. we don't know anything about these guys yet , they could be very good. The point of my post above is that a lot of 'tuning companies' these days simply have a universal obd remapping tool for which they can buy batches of maps for standard cars. If it's one of those then the chances are the person flashing your ecu has no idea about your car (or anyone elses) other than how to connect to the obd port and click 'upload map'. Or you might get lucky and have an engineer/technician who actually knows what he's doing and is fully equipped with knowledge of scanning for faults etc and will really look after your car. The thing is you just won't know until someone finds out for themselves.
A great example of this would be Rtech.. noone on here had heard of them last year but I paid them a visit to see what they were all about. They've now overtaken REVO as the most popular tuner among the mk4s on here and have amazing feedback. The book/cover rule firmly applies imo!

fully agree with all of that and i was of the same opinion until earlier this year

having now met Nick on several occasions i cannot praise him enough as he has transformed my TDi  

Is Nick from Hyperchips?  If not, then I still wouldn't go near them on the off-chance that they might have a good engineer.  Why would anyone want to take a chance with their expensive car? 

[AlanD]

No, Nick is the man from R-Tech.

I agree with what your saying illyun, Id never be the geuni pig. Only reason Im going with Rtech is the reviews and the great price they are offering. But someone had to try them in the first place, I just rather it wasnt me

[Rhyso]

Is Nick from Hyperchips?  If not, then I still wouldn't go near them on the off-chance that they might have a good engineer.  Why would anyone want to take a chance with their expensive car? 

urm Nick is from R-Tech -  maybe if you had read the posts in the other sections you might have seen me raving about the map 

ask Dan (Cookiemonster) about his GTI 

[illyun]

No, Nick is the man from R-Tech.

I agree with what your saying illyun, Id never be the geuni pig. Only reason Im going with Rtech is the reviews and the great price they are offering. But someone had to try them in the first place, I just rather it wasnt me

I've only heard good things about RTech myself so this is definetly not directed at them    Just that a company with a shoddy website full of mistakes and dubious claims should me more than enough for anyone to steer well clear.  The offer at £250 in light of what I have said isn't a good deal at all... go with Superchips @ JKM fror that much.

[WhiteGTI]

I agree with what you are saying guys, in that the usual suspects are going to be better in regards to customer service, quality of end product etc.. but the re-map is not for my car, it is for someone else who is looking into using them, the rep has promised a full money back guarantee if not 100% happy, and he seems to know his stuff.
Thing is with a wad of cash waved in front of his nose the price is sub £250 which is half the cost of the big players, so with the guarantee I think we'll go ahead and see what happens.
From doing a little bit of research the company has a multi-million pound backing, so I don't think they are a fly-by-night set up, but some power graphs on the site wouldn't go amiss, so you could see the before and afters.

What exactly does this define? I think that's an absolutely meaningless comment, and not valid at all.

Ok, so the nature of their product is to add performance, and the nature of a customer enquiry is to add performance...great, a match with customer needs and service provided! This automatically suggests that you're going to be happy! If the car goes faster as a result, you will be happy. So they won't be giving you a refund!

Furthermore...you won't have a clue if it's doing any long-term damage to the car. So you could still be 'happy' whilst it is f*cking up your fuel pump, or such like....