mk2 vr6 or abf??????

[WYATT]

i see that ToddyGTi said at the flywheel the 208bhp was made, what would that end up being at the wheels , coz after all that work i couldnt handle having less than 200bhp at the wheels , when its from the flywheel its just a joke it goes down so much by the time its recorded from the wheels ,


I'm planning of getting 200bhp at the wheels , weather than means a fully balanced bottom end or even aftermarket rod's/pistons, people might say oh well if ur spending all that do the 20v but that is stupid money for the engine and brakes and all that its such a big effort , i have a friend with VR built by TSR it got about 190bhp and i'm still yet to see a faster car to this day it was so fast and just took off  , so i think 200bhp 16v should be crazy aftert his VR got that and when like that,


Joe

[Martz]

I had a 9a conversion done years ago and that was a nice drive. I am steering to the VR root next purely for sound this time. I know a chap who is pretty handy with it. Turbo'd they are fooking fast. All preference and how far do you want to go? Money decides most of that...............

[AudiA8Quattro]

I would be very sceptical about some of figures quoted in this thread.
A 16v won't produce big power without serious money. Save it and spend big on a vr 

[Wayne]

I would be very sceptical about some of figures quoted in this thread.
A 16v won't produce big power without serious money. Save it and spend big on a vr 

+1 as above, VR6 ftw.

[Jay]

VR6 FTMFW.

[Benrevs]

Vr6 and charge it.... and with the money you would have spent sprucing up the abf, buy decent supension and brakes etc.

[danny_p]

this thread has decended into utter bollocks imo.

modifyed v's modifyed.    isn't really a comparison cos no one said how modifyed.

a charged ABF will give a charged VR6 a serious run for it's money and when pushed i recon the 4 cyl would make the better numbers.  the VR6 has som serious issues when it comes to turning it into a performance engine it was never meant to be a all out PERFORMANCE engine hence some massive compromises were made when it was desinged.     

there were so meany compromises made to get it to fit in the hole in a crash test frendly way its just not funny.  put a propper v6 in there or make an inline 5 fit

[Diamond Hell]

Vr6 and charge it.... and with the money you would have spent sprucing up the abf, buy decent supension and brakes etc.

Yeah, cos I hear Kelloggs are giving away charger kits for the VR6 free with boxes of Frosties this week. 

Danny's ABF was ballistic.  I'm looking forward to driving it on bodies next year, too.

The VR6s I've driven have been languid, but then they were in tugboats.

Freshening a VR6 for proper use will cos the same, if not more than freshening an ABF.  The VR6 is going to have more torque but they like revs less than the ABF, so I know where I'm heading next year.

[Thegolfman]

At 2000rpm a VR6 is putting out more torque than a 2.0 16v at peak.

[Diamond Hell]

A wise man said to me only the other day.....

If you want lots of torque, go buy a diesel.