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Offline gazbutmk5gti

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Re: Prosport - results are in....Jury's out!!!!
« Reply #70 on: 25 October 2008, 23:21 »
Shame I couldnt make it, sounds like I would have got about 600bhp :smug:

Those figures are completely bogus, could it be anything to do with the DSG?? Was it only the DSG cars that had the spurious results?

yes it was, like I said earlier, vtec and luca are running the same spec 08 ed30's, revo stg2, 2.75" milltek downpipe milltek exhaust, same settings B7 T7 F9, vtec 370bhp luca 330bhp, surely there is something in it. Like I said earlier I'm not saying Prosports rollers are gospel but I think there is something in the gearbox type on their rollers
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Re: Prosport - results are in....Jury's out!!!!
« Reply #71 on: 25 October 2008, 23:24 »
Ah sorry didnt see that post, still looks like it was a good turn out on the day and you guys had fun! Which is what its all about :)

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Re: Prosport - results are in....Jury's out!!!!
« Reply #72 on: 26 October 2008, 00:03 »
Ben did run a 330bhp before the 370bhp run. I would say mine and bens cars are pretty even performance wise after going out in his. He will have a slightly better acceleration on the move due to the dsg.

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Re: Prosport - results are in....Jury's out!!!!
« Reply #73 on: 26 October 2008, 00:09 »
was a great turn out will post results etc 2 morra too full of vino right now :smiley:
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Re: Prosport - results are in....Jury's out!!!!
« Reply #74 on: 26 October 2008, 00:28 »
Hello guys.

Good to meet you all today!
Interesting hey... another RR lottery!

With regards the other S3's

My car (the blue one with GIAC) made a best of 314bhp and 305lb/ft however, I'm happier mixing the best power figure and the bets torque figure of my two runs ha ha ha so 314bhp and 327lb/ft. I do have an odd dip in the plot though... need to look in to that
Lee made 299bhp - can't remember the torque on a standard car!!!
Eagle made 291 bhp on just a cat back zorst
Leon made 310 bhp and 337lb/ft on GIAC only

A good day was had, damn cold, but good to meet a few more like minded bod's!

Zboyd - great pic's mate, and thanks for helping me with my list of excuses  :grin:

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Re: Prosport - results are in....Jury's out!!!!
« Reply #75 on: 26 October 2008, 00:47 »
Hello guys.

Good to meet you all today!
Interesting hey... another RR lottery!

With regards the other S3's

My car (the blue one with GIAC) made a best of 314bhp and 305lb/ft however, I'm happier mixing the best power figure and the bets torque figure of my two runs ha ha ha so 314bhp and 327lb/ft. I do have an odd dip in the plot though... need to look in to that
Lee made 299bhp - can't remember the torque on a standard car!!!
Eagle made 291 bhp on just a cat back zorst
Leon made 310 bhp and 337lb/ft on GIAC only

You'll do anything to make yours sound better Jamie!

Mine made 304bhp and 316lbft.

BTW Thanks for having us there guys, it was a great, but freezing cold day!

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Re: Prosport - results are in....Jury's out!!!!
« Reply #76 on: 26 October 2008, 01:21 »
Bloomin 'eck

I come back after a night out on the town and find 8 pages to go through on one thread :laugh:

Here are a few bits I can pick out from the day.....*pauses to get brain in gear!*

1. Definitely seems to be something a bit wappy on the bhp side of things for DSG motors
2. Definitely seems that theres something wappy on the lbft side for DSG cars
3. Definitely had a good day out despite the "lovely" Stockport weather.
4. Definitely a good set of blokes at Prosport and well organised
5. Definitely a big up for Gaz
6. Definitely claiming all my figures were spot on :wink: :rolleyes:

If I had been able to stay and see Bens second set of runs, I would have asked to have mine put back on again to see if my figures were repeated or different. As it is now, all I can say is that the RR side of things was a waste of time for me personally. I may as well have just gone along for a chat and given my £40 to charity instead of just the £5.

I will not be putting my car on any more rolling roads again, but would attend if they are nearby/when I can get to them.

My reasoning for the last statement?...........I know my car is fast enough for me and no matter what RR I go on or what results I achieve, there will always be people who say:-

i. You went on a different day and it was colder.
ii. That dyno isn't accurate, it is overreading.
iii. there's no way you can get that figure from those mods
iv. It's DSG, so it's different
v. Mine's manual, so it's different
vi. People can bung the guy a tenner to let him change the settings.
vii. They don't like REVO/CC/APR/GIAC here and so deliberately give lower results to them

On the whole I would also say that even the manuals were a little on the high side.

Regardless of accuracy, the RR day was useful to some people, giving them indicators of their cars not performing as they should. :cool:

If I'm passing Awesome next Saturday, I'll pop in and see how they are going on, but there is no way I'm going on their dyno again especially on a RR day.

Maybe one day I'll change my mind, but until then I'll leave my sig figures as they are :smiley:

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Re: Prosport - results are in....Jury's out!!!!
« Reply #77 on: 26 October 2008, 10:01 »
I think you just need to find a reliable set of rollers Hurdy, to satisfy your curiosity and give you a bench mark.  It's not a case of who's got the biggest etc but if you take the recent case highlighted by Robin, he thinks/thought his car was running sweet, even after the miserable figure he drove it up the road coming back saying that the butt dyno thought all was well and that according to his boost guage he was still peaking at XXpsi. What has actually emarged is that he does in fact have a problem which he will need to have looked at.
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Re: Prosport - results are in....Jury's out!!!!
« Reply #78 on: 26 October 2008, 10:33 »
Seems like a real mixed bag (numbers look high but I know very little about GTI mods!)

As mentioned a few times, R32OC has a rolling road day at Weston Performance on the 1st of Nov. There are a few GTI guys from here already paid up and attending. Anyone else would be most welcome. We have 12 people paid and attending so far. The cost is £45 which is almost half price! All you need to do is sign up on R32OC (as your username is used as verification) and pay Weston direct over the phone. Full details can be found here... http://www.r32oc.com/southern/6730-mkv-meet-weston-performance-rr-day-sat-1st-nov-08-a.html

Some of the GTI’s on here are gorgeous. Hope to maybe see a few more of you guys there!

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Re: Prosport - results are in....Jury's out!!!!
« Reply #79 on: 26 October 2008, 10:56 »
thinking about it more , the whole not locking in 5th gear and allowing the car to change up from 5th to 6th may have totally screwed the flywheel correction as thats done by coastdown losses.
We should really have had a chat and got Prosport to do that.

Hurdys right in that , I believe he probably got 333 bhp again at Prosport , so thats a + 30bhp 'correction' required for DSG cars.
In some way that brings Bens car back into line (340bhp) , but that would also mean that his first run he was only at 300 odds (i.e. down on power)

For the manual cars I believe the figures are consistent (but not gospel or absolutely correct numbers)

its all good fun  :shocked: I think  :grin: :cool:




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