Prosport - results are in....Jury's out!!!!

[john_o]

has a camels back look to it. Sign of a accurate dyno

ok Im gonna take the bait Phil 
Irrespective of the numbers derived the variety of ways in which a plot can be drawn can make the same numbers 'look' different.
As well as that , since when is a camels back equate to an accurate dyno! The shape of a curve is dependent on the way the engine delivers , which for every different engine type could be different.....

[neg]

you got another present/freebie too you cheeky monkey

Ah yes, thank you sir

Now realising how heavy there are I might remove them, dont need em do ya  

[Saint Steve]

has a camels back look to it. Sign of a accurate dyno

ok Im gonna take the bait Phil 
Irrespective of the numbers derived the variety of ways in which a plot can be drawn can make the same numbers 'look' different.
As well as that , since when is a camels back equate to an accurate dyno! The shape of a curve is dependent on the way the engine delivers , which for every different engine type could be different.....

Someone on here said the camels back quote, i think it might have been T_T, question his judgement John_o!!  .

 not sure who it was but ive read it somewhere a shape of a torque curve, with a straight and even pull though the rev range.

this is SteveP's and i think this is a really good example of a good running remap, alot better then a stock car

http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/Misc/Gallery/rollingroaddays/Golf%20GTi%20RR%20Day%202008/Dyno%20Charts/SWP.gif

[gazbutmk5gti]

I think what John is saying is the way the graph is plotted can change the shape of the curve, as in if the scale along the bottom axis, usually revs is dragged out that would change the shape, in the same way the scale of the vertical axis can change the shape. so the actual shape can be altered

[ZBOYD]

A few pics - http://www.seatcupra.net/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=30762&g2_navId=x80e406dd

[SteveP]

Sounds like you all had a good day which to me is the thing I would want out of an RR day 

As shown by PhilMc above my ED30 ran 278bhp on JKM's Dyno Dynamic's rollers and after some reworking of the map by Richter then ran 303bhp on Superchips MAHA LP3000 rollers. (Sorry can remember the torque figures off hand  :embarassed:)

I am sure at weston next week I will, at best, see 285bhp on their Dyno Dynamics rollers 

At the end of the day every company who has invested (a serious amount of money) in a Rolling Road will says theirs is the best and is very accurate.

If your happy with the way the cars feels and drives then why worry about chasing figures than can't be 100% verified without taking your engine out 

[jonnnny28]

Shame I couldnt make it, sounds like I would have got about 600bhp

Those figures are completely bogus, could it be anything to do with the DSG?? Was it only the DSG cars that had the spurious results?

[john_o]

I would agree Phil , that SteveP's graphs do look good.
I'll get excel out later and see what I can 'create'

Gaz hurry up with the results

ZBOYD nice picks  

[RedRobin]

Sounds like you all had a good day which to me is the thing I would want out of an RR day 

As shown by PhilMc above my ED30 ran 278bhp on JKM's Dyno Dynamic's rollers and after some reworking of the map by Richter then ran 303bhp on Superchips MAHA LP3000 rollers. (Sorry can remember the torque figures off hand  :embarassed:)

I am sure at weston next week I will, at best, see 285bhp on their Dyno Dynamics rollers 

At the end of the day every company who has invested (a serious amount of money) in a Rolling Road will says theirs is the best and is very accurate.

If your happy with the way the cars feels and drives then why worry about chasing figures than can't be 100% verified without taking your engine out 

....I couldn't agree more!

[luca]

Had an excellent day today guys. Was good to meet some new faces and the free food was very good .
First run with my car was 275 bhp 348lbft torque . Didnt understand why the bhp was so low until i saw the graph which was showing the car was pulling timing from 4krpm onwards so making no more power from there.
Peter and a few other suggested the boost was too high so i knocked mine back to boost 7 and did some vag com logs with neg and ben and the car pulled right through the revs with no timing or boost issues .
Took the car back and put it on the rollers and the car came out at 330bhp 350lbft torque and another run showed 331bhp 345lbft torque.
Was more than happy with the result and the car feels much better now .
The figure i got may be more than it really is but i dont care because the car feels and goes like a rocket and has shown quite a few big cars up .
A few pics from today