Results from JKM Rolling road day.

[Vtec Abuser]

i have to say i had a 280+ bhp car before and the ED30 is most deffinately quicker, so its all a bit odd, wonder if the manual ed30's do better on the RR ?, im tempted to get Revo but im not sure i will notice the difference

I am probably opening a can of worms again, but today (for me anyway) proved 100% that the figures quoted by most tuners and those that have been seen on some RR's elsewhere are way over the top.

The stock MK5's (both normal and ED30) that ran today all showed within a few BHP the stock quoted figures, take Golfgirls results and compare these to another RR session she was on recently.

Anyway for just the remap and filter I have I was very pleased with the true results I saw today. 

No offence mate, but why is it 100% PROVEN??? 
I understand JKM are a very proffesional outfit and stock cars seem to be pulling accurate figures. But there can be more to than that.. For some reason, modded cars and JKM's rollers don't seem to get on by the looks of things..
I mean 250bhp from a mapped ED30 is just laughable and i'm sure that Shaun (182 Blue) will be the first to say that his must be pulling more than that, as he had a fairly modded ST before hand and has a good comparison to go on..

Best thing to do mate (instead of all this RR lottery) is actually go out in a Revo'd one. I'm only down the road from you and travel a great deal near you, so if you want a run out/drive of mine, let me know bud..  Would like to go out in a Bluefin'd one too..

[182_blue]

I see Bluefin are getting great results again...  
Shame there was no Revo/GIAC Ed30's there really to compare..
Think i'd be a little p*ssed off if I was RR.. 

dunno, is 271 bhp bad ?

That's with Milltek too mate. The other one got 252....  

yeh i know, but that may have issues, im sure the Miltek doesnt add that much either

[SteveP]

I am probably opening a can of worms again, but today (for me anyway) proved 100% that the figures quoted by most tuners and those that have been seen on some RR's elsewhere are way over the top.

The stock MK5's (both normal and ED30) that ran today all showed within a few BHP the stock quoted figures, take Golfgirls results and compare these to another RR session she was on recently.

Anyway for just the remap and filter I have I was very pleased with the true results I saw today. 

No offence mate, but why is it 100% PROVEN??? 
I understand JKM are a very proffesional outfit and stock cars seem to be pulling accurate figures. But there can be more to than that.. For some reason, modded cars and JKM's rollers don't seem to get on by the looks of things..

Ok, NONE TAKEN  

Like I said it proved it for me, you don't have to agree.

Take Stu's Octy as another example, it's a modified car and was pulling good figures. But he has a large amount of well setup and complimentary mods to only just exceed the figured quoted by Revo.

[SteveP]

I see Bluefin are getting great results again...  
Shame there was no Revo/GIAC Ed30's there really to compare..
Think i'd be a little p*ssed off if I was RR.. 

dunno, is 271 bhp bad ?

That's with Milltek too mate. The other one got 252....  

yeh i know, but that may have issues, im sure the Miltek doesnt add that much either

Telboy who got the 252bhp result did have problems (the torque curve was al over the place) and when the map was removed it ran near normal figures, The other GTIJames had the TBE and didn't see great results either. JKM didn't seam too surprised by this TBH.

[Vtec Abuser]

I am probably opening a can of worms again, but today (for me anyway) proved 100% that the figures quoted by most tuners and those that have been seen on some RR's elsewhere are way over the top.

The stock MK5's (both normal and ED30) that ran today all showed within a few BHP the stock quoted figures, take Golfgirls results and compare these to another RR session she was on recently.

Anyway for just the remap and filter I have I was very pleased with the true results I saw today. 

No offence mate, but why is it 100% PROVEN??? 
I understand JKM are a very proffesional outfit and stock cars seem to be pulling accurate figures. But there can be more to than that.. For some reason, modded cars and JKM's rollers don't seem to get on by the looks of things..

Ok, NONE TAKEN  

Like I said it proved it for me, you don't have to agree.

Take Stu's Octy as another example, it's a modified car and was pulling good figures. But he has a large amount of well setup and complimentary mods to only just exceed the figured quoted by Revo.

I wasn't getting narky mate  , Just saying it's 1 RR out of hundreds and it seems to go against the rest of the countrys results for some strange reason..
Stu's other major mods are uprated FP and FMIC which don't really give a lot more peak power figs, but they give a lot better power throughout the rev range (FP)..
I agree DD rollers are very good and would like to see another RR day on another set of DD rollers to compare..
If my car (or any other mapped ED30) IS only 250-70bhp, then it/they must be the best performing Hot Hatch of that power out there..  
Just doesn't add up to be honest.. 

[vRStu]

You can believe what you want about the power of your car and you can take it to whatever rollers makes you feel better but in the long term you are kidding yourself.

The DD RR is pretty accurate, if you can put a stock car on and achieve stock figures (GolfGirls was a classic example) then it will be accurate no matter if it's modified or not.  JKM and other tuners with DD rollers have run a lot more power than the Ed30 is likely to achieve.

You should have come along VtecAbuser, you could have put your concerns to bed for good.

[Vtec Abuser]

I see Bluefin are getting great results again...  
Shame there was no Revo/GIAC Ed30's there really to compare..
Think i'd be a little p*ssed off if I was RR.. 

dunno, is 271 bhp bad ?

That's with Milltek too mate. The other one got 252....  

yeh i know, but that may have issues, im sure the Miltek doesnt add that much either

Telboy who got the 252bhp result did have problems (the torque curve was al over the place) and when the map was removed it ran near normal figures, The other GTIJames had the TBE and didn't see great results either. JKM didn't seam too surprised by this TBH.

I agree that Bluefin have had there troubles putting down there claimed 307bhp, as that has been the case on many RR days i've seen. Just a shame that there wasn't any Revo/GIAC ED30's there to compare with Awesome's RR day.

[topher]

davefish over on r32oc is looking into a RR day at weston performance, who have the 4wd dynodynamics setup.. i'm sure he can fit a couple of fwds in that day for comparison's sake

[Vtec Abuser]

You can believe what you want about the power of your car and you can take it to whatever rollers makes you feel better but in the long term you are kidding yourself.

The DD RR is pretty accurate, if you can put a stock car on and achieve stock figures (GolfGirls was a classic example) then it will be accurate no matter if it's modified or not.  JKM and other tuners with DD rollers have run a lot more power than the Ed30 is likely to achieve.

You should have come along VtecAbuser, you could have put your concerns to bed for good.

I would of liked to mate. But just was to far for me and had stuff on..
If JKM's rollers are 100%, WITHOUT A DOUBT, BANG ON! Then there will be a lot of Tuning companies that will be in trouble with Trading Standards..   And someone needs to explain to me how a 270bhp ED30 can do 0-100 in 11 secs and see off A LOT of bigger powered machinery..

[182_blue]

You can believe what you want about the power of your car and you can take it to whatever rollers makes you feel better but in the long term you are kidding yourself.

The DD RR is pretty accurate, if you can put a stock car on and achieve stock figures (GolfGirls was a classic example) then it will be accurate no matter if it's modified or not.  JKM and other tuners with DD rollers have run a lot more power than the Ed30 is likely to achieve.

You should have come along VtecAbuser, you could have put your concerns to bed for good.

I would of liked to mate. But just was to far for me and had stuff on..
If JKM's rollers are 100%, WITHOUT A DOUBT, BANG ON! Then there will be a lot of Tuning companies that will be in trouble with Trading Standards..   And someone needs to explain to me how a 270bhp ED30 can do 0-100 in 11 secs and see off A LOT of bigger powered machinery..

yeh but put that big machinery on the same rollers and they would all run less too