Results from JKM Rolling road day.

[Vtec Abuser]

Bluefin should make at least 290 and Revo just over 300..
As for driver skill mate, I have DSG, so once off the line makes bog all difference. My 60ft times in the ED30 are no better than most average drivers (2.3) as it's a pig to launch, so it's not the launch..
I would love to have a run against Phil's car, even on a rolling start. As judging by JKM's results he should be with me most of the way. But going off what my ED30 was like standard, I very much doubt it.. NO offence to Phil of course (any standard ED30 DSG would do) 
In fact i'm at Pod next sat if anyone fancies it...?

Your right - however from today it seems that these figures are realistically unachievable - be that due to the atmospheric conditions/temperature etc etc etc. I'm sure in theory they can be achievevd. Don't tuners quote hp gains that can only be achieved in completely ideal conditions - conditions that are nearly impossible to achieve in real life? But as we learnt today, every single car is different...so you may have a goodun'  

My car was run on a hot day in June mate and you guys on a cold day in Oct, so it should favour you if anything. But I see what you're saying bud..
Mine isn't a 'Good un' or any better than others with the same mods, as others with same mods have achieved same power mate, in fact a bloody load have (including Cupra's too)..

[chungster]

dont suppose anyone recorded their whp figures?

DD graphs don't give this info as it don't show drive train losses.

just flywheel figures for bhp and torque.

[WhiteGTI]

Definitely vtec, I look forward to seeing your results. I hope that you get towards the 300's, as I think its pretty cheeky of tuners to quote figures if they can't be achieved.

I'll be getting Revo in a matter of days - so I hope that I can achieve a decent figure too, but also a decent curve that results in the driveability of the car being excellent.

Shame you couldnt make it today, Id have liked to have met you and seen your car in real life 

[chungster]

to be honest, todays figures were not THAT bad.

1 or maybe 2 cars had their moments, but majority were ok and near what was expected.

At the end of the day, RR figures is all pub talk. Out on the road how it drives, "butt dyno" is how the car should be judged.

Mine goes well and i love it!

Considering VA pretty much MATCHED the performance of Stage 3 BT cars at GTI International, I don't doubt his car is running over 300bhp.

Don't you just love RR days!  

[vRStu]

Ok so the superchips headline figure is 307hp - great eh?  Well not so I'm afraid, like REVO their results are flawed -

http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/VW%20Golf%20Edition30%20DSG.pdf

The ED30 starts with a healthy 245 on their rollers so already it's 'found' 17hp over stock figures. So if you remove the 'fudge factor' then actually it's closer to 290hp

Revo don't have graphs for the ED30 but when they released 200ps TFSi software they were quoting 262hp however the starting figure was nearly 214 so again 17hp over the correct figure. http://www.revotechnik.com/aboutRevo/news/fsi20.aspx

Please don't get me started on the REVO quoted figures as I have been to several RR's including the ones that REVO used and quite clearly proved the figures are rubbish.  You need to liken the tuners quoted figures to explaining the size of your kn0b to a woman in a bar, your selling it so it's going to be bigger and better than it really is but you need to seal the deal and make yourself stand out more than the guy in the blue shirt with the blonde hair and blue eyes.

I'm not saying that JKM's rollers are the be all and end all but if you put a row of stock cars on there and they make stock power then it can't be too far out can it.  Also if they read as low as you suspect, perhaps what 15 or 20hp then does that mean i have a 280hp K03 car?? - I don't think so.

[telboy]

Well what can I say to add to this little lot really,....

Firstly, huge thanks to Phil (aka Steve) for setting up the day as it was great to actually put names to faces, although I did find it a bit odd having to call Danny the Cookie Monster!!!

Now for the nasty bit, my results, I always felt that 307bhp claim made by Superchips was a tad out of this world although didn't expect the results to be as low as mine, must admit though there must be somthing wrong as Jim @ JKM confirmed that my standard map would return around 230-235 after a few hundred miles. However, 252bhp must mean there is something wrong and rest assured I will be at Superchips HQ first thing Monday morning with my car :angry:I'm serious!!!!

I can't believe these boys can get away with laying claims like they are,...not when we all have to work so hard to afford the re maps!!!

JKM think I will need a new file loaded although I'm going to get Superchips to do it, so if anyone is around first thing Monday 6/10, I'll be in Buckingham shoving my car way up the a~~e of Superchips until they get it sorted!

Other than that, what a day, let's do it again some day soon!

Great to meet you all by the way, cracking bunch of guys & Girls!!!

[182_blue]

Well what can I say to add to this little lot really,....

Firstly, huge thanks to Phil (aka Steve) for setting up the day as it was great to actually put names to faces, although I did find it a bit odd having to call Danny the Cookie Monster!!!

Now for the nasty bit, my results, I always felt that 307bhp claim made by Superchips was a tad out of this world although didn't expect the results to be as low as mine, must admit though there must be somthing wrong as Jim @ JKM confirmed that my standard map would return around 230-235 after a few hundred miles. However, 252bhp must mean there is something wrong and rest assured I will be at Superchips HQ first thing Monday morning with my car :angry:I'm serious!!!!

I can't believe these boys can get away with laying claims like they are,...not when we all have to work so hard to afford the re maps!!!

JKM think I will need a new file loaded although I'm going to get Superchips to do it, so if anyone is around first thing Monday 6/10, I'll be in Buckingham shoving my car way up the a~~e of Superchips until they get it sorted!

Other than that, what a day, let's do it again some day soon!

Great to meet you all by the way, cracking bunch of guys & Girls!!!

im guessing theres no chance they put a normal gti's map on ?

[Vtec Abuser]

  Also if they read as low as you suspect, perhaps what 15 or 20hp then does that mean i have a 280hp K03 car?? - I don't think so.

Didn't your mate Mike's vRS make 280+ on the last RR day there with similar mods to you? 

[Saint Steve]

thats makefish ben, he had more mods then stu had b4 he sold it,

[vRStu]

Steve had a few more extra's as Phil says, he also had a 'custom' fuel pump file written on his car by REVO.