WhitelineAntiLiftKit this way ....

[Neil M]

Off-topic but I think that a friend of yours - 'invalid'd' due to pushbike accident(?) - Was helped out by Mark at VWR and is enjoying racing a Mk5 GTI.

Safe n Fun Journeys, mate

Yes thats Simon, I was at Silverstone with him last week I think I met Mark there as well. Simons pretty hard core his Gti is ready to race in the VW race series but he has had problems getting a race licence due to getting in and out in a certain time. He's just back from a round trip to Spa and the Ring, lucky ba****d.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

....Although it costs more, I would venture to suggest that a 'limited slip diff' is more effective. And if you add the Whiteline AntiLift Kit as well...............

I agree that a Quaife ATB would be a better option - but only under hard traction.  But it is a seriously expensive bit of kit, and requires major modification, consisting of "open heart surgery" on your gearbox.  The Whiteline kit will work during acceleration, constant throttle, trailing throttle, or even harsh braking! 

Pound for pound, and comparing the results, the LSD is way more expensive and less "efficient per ££££" when compared to the relatively cheap Whiteline kit.  Furthermore, the Whiteline kit can easily be reverted back to OEM, to re-sell at a later date - and you would recoup your costs from a 2nd owner.  With the LSD, it is extremely doubtfull that you would ever revert it back to standard, and unless you seriously found a buyer for your car who genuinely appreciated and understood the benefits of Quaife, then those mega bucks will be all but lost

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Just had the Morego negative camer wishbones removed, they claim to be for both manual and DSG but made a knocking noise on my DSG, also wore a 2" bald patch on the inside of the tyre in just 4 weeks (with one track day).

The turn in and grip in corners is much improved though, you just have to live with desecrating the rubber resorces.

Interesting comments, thanks. 

Increasing negative camber angles is always seen as a "sledgehammer to crack a nut" approach - whilst it does provide good improvements in cornering handling, its negative effects far outweigh any benefits on a road car.

Fortunately due to the knocking problem they replaced them with the originals and gave me a refund, the WALK Kits look interesting, I'll need some one to give me an Idiots Guide To..... how they work.

What more do you need to know about them?  It is nearly dinner time, and SWMBO is nagging,  so I may need to return later to this . . . .

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Pedant mode ....................
Dependent on the overall "dynamic" geometery, increases in castor can also increase the handling effects of the inner front roadwheels during hard cornering, though the only adverse affect is on bumpy corners, which will then give more "feedback" through the steering wheel - again, should be a problem with the small increases.

....My turn to be in pedant mode  - I think you probably meant to write: "shouldn't be a problem"

Yup - thats what happens when you have a SWMBO nagging in one ear!   

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Oh, and I reckon the Whiteline kit will really add to the benefit of the Quaife ATB diff, because it is hard cornering where the Whiteline anti-lift kit has been specifically designed for.     

....Encouraged by your post, I've just gone and ordered the Whiteline AntiLift Kit. Offered with discount at the moment too.

From who?  How much?  Group buy??? 

[RedRobin]

....

Sean - My SWMBO is only 17yo and wants dinner! Being a single parent, I'm the cook and she's the boss! They start young!!

Later, guys

[RedRobin]

Oh, and I reckon the Whiteline kit will really add to the benefit of the Quaife ATB diff, because it is hard cornering where the Whiteline anti-lift kit has been specifically designed for.     

....Encouraged by your post, I've just gone and ordered the Whiteline AntiLift Kit. Offered with discount at the moment too.

From who?  How much?  Group buy??? 

....My SWMBO is going to murder me!

Not a group buy but a limited time offer (they say) : - http://www.balancemotorsport.co.uk/main.asp?sitepages=ContactPage

Bon Appetit!

[john_o]

Showing your age, or just an enthusiast? 

bit of both , but like to get my hands dirty too 

Great info thanks TT

Transaction confirmation today , so should get them soon.
My first 'true' mod !

[john_o]

which leads me nicely onto
suspension parameters setup , should it be different for this kit? , or even tweaked from the 'common' vw figures?

[RedRobin]

....Although it costs more, I would venture to suggest that a 'limited slip diff' is more effective. And if you add the Whiteline AntiLift Kit as well...............

I agree that a Quaife ATB would be a better option - but only under hard traction.  But it is a seriously expensive bit of kit, and requires major modification, consisting of "open heart surgery" on your gearbox.  The Whiteline kit will work during acceleration, constant throttle, trailing throttle, or even harsh braking! 

Pound for pound, and comparing the results, the LSD is way more expensive and less "efficient per ££££" when compared to the relatively cheap Whiteline kit.  Furthermore, the Whiteline kit can easily be reverted back to OEM, to re-sell at a later date - and you would recoup your costs from a 2nd owner.  With the LSD, it is extremely doubtfull that you would ever revert it back to standard, and unless you seriously found a buyer for your car who genuinely appreciated and understood the benefits of Quaife, then those mega bucks will be all but lost

....I have yet to have my session at Bruntingthorpe when VWR will demonstrate my car's fuller potential with Quaife ATB and where I will also be in the driver's seat. Until then I have been approaching bends etc more confidently/strongly but not wanting to find the limit on public roads. Whereas I agree with you that it comes into its own while under hard traction, I have nevertheless found that the whole 'feel' of the car around corners is more steady and with less inclination to light up the ESP. It feels very seamless. I haven't had the opportunity to try it in the wet yet.

I don't feel that the Whiteline kit is a substitute for the Quaife ATB but can see, as you have suggested, how complimentary they would be when used together.

I wouldn't bother to revert to my stock DSG diff - I've spent the megabucks for my enjoyment and am not fussed about any financial return later. I expect that the sort of person who will be interested in buying my car (one day far ahead) will either love the bonus of it's diff and brakes etc or will simply buy it as a car they like for what it is and its driveability. The great bonus about selling a car like the GTI some time well into the future is that it is likely to be sought after - Rather like Mk2's are now. It's not a company car or one which will only be owned for 3 years and moved on - It's customised for my enjoyment and nothing else - I ignore the ££££-efficiency and don't even think about it.

Many may think I'm mad but life isn't a rehearsal and I like to enjoy the life itself. IMO too many people are driven by chasing the dollar - I prefer to chase the vision. It was Black Crow in the 1880's who said that the white man chases the dollar but the red man chases the vision.