Author Topic: which bottom end for 2.0l conversion and do i go for it?  (Read 3711 times)

Offline dTEA

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Alright all, my MOT is through and that means the old gal is gonna get taxed and tweaked.  I reckon after a trip to Awesome they are gonna tell me to bin the 1.8 bottom end and start again, although i might be proved wrong as I know it needs a good tune anyway, but at the min she is running lumpy (part due to a top up of ordinary unleaded rather than super) and is down on power.

BUT, i've been offered a bottom end out of a 94 mk3 8v.  Does this bottom end have any complications when swapping just the block over retaining my 16v head and ancillaries?  Are there any other parts off the mk3 I would need?  Reckon the guy is gonna be cool with a decent price, but I'm after getting my old girl up to standard as I wanna get rid of my civic but i'm used to the raw power that 200bhp gives.

Comments etc engine codes etc welcome :smiley:

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Re: which bottom end for 2.0l conversion and do i go for it?
« Reply #1 on: 30 September 2008, 22:37 »
You cant use the 8v block on a 16v (well you can but its heavily involved and more suited to turbo conversions)


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Re: which bottom end for 2.0l conversion and do i go for it?
« Reply #2 on: 30 September 2008, 22:45 »
Just put an ABF in there, with some proper management.
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Re: which bottom end for 2.0l conversion and do i go for it?
« Reply #3 on: 30 September 2008, 22:49 »
Just put an ABF in there, with some proper management.
You and those ABF's  :grin: I think dTea wants a bit more power/torque without having to change the engine completely.
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Re: which bottom end for 2.0l conversion and do i go for it?
« Reply #4 on: 30 September 2008, 23:51 »
Have you had the ABF experience?

It's very persuasive, from the way it starts and idles like a kitten, to the way it just keeps asking you to spank it harder and more and more like a whore on a quiet night past 6k RPM

Should have a dyno plot off DannyP's after next Friday - will be interesting.
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Re: which bottom end for 2.0l conversion and do i go for it?
« Reply #5 on: 01 October 2008, 13:58 »
Not yet  :sad:

I do like you description though  :grin:
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Re: which bottom end for 2.0l conversion and do i go for it?
« Reply #6 on: 01 October 2008, 14:19 »
A 9A engine with your KR cams should see you knocking on the door of 150bhp and is a direct swap for your 1.8 engine as it's on a K-Jet set up in the Passat and Corrado.

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Re: which bottom end for 2.0l conversion and do i go for it?
« Reply #7 on: 01 October 2008, 20:30 »
Cheers Nick, its a DIY thing that I was looking for as I want to get specialist work done on the bodywork, and possibly a 288mm brake set up.  The coilovers, bushes etc I'll want to do myself and the ABF swap looks a little too time consuming.  So a 9A lump it is then

If was swapping the whole thing, why not just 1.8T it and get some where around the 230-40 mark out of it?  But then that means new gearbox and a lot more messing with clutches and a lot more expense....unless anyone on here wants to loan me it, cos i sure as hell cant fund that myself :grin:

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Re: which bottom end for 2.0l conversion and do i go for it?
« Reply #8 on: 01 October 2008, 20:49 »
the 9a and abf conversions are identical, the only problem with using an abf is if you want to fit a 4 branch you have to modify the rear engine mount so the engine sits lower, but the abf is slightly better.

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Re: which bottom end for 2.0l conversion and do i go for it?
« Reply #9 on: 01 October 2008, 20:50 »
oh and cut the rib out of your bonnet for the abf as well cos its taller