Will R32 rear brakes fit the ed30?

[Hurdy]

There was a guy on here who bought the front and rear R32 conversion. That's why I put yes as my answer. I didn't realise he'd had to change all those parts as well as the brake set

OK, sorry, I didn't mean to have a personal "dig" at anyone in particular.    Just didn't want to see anyone making an expensive "mistake"! 

Who was it from here who bought the front and rear R32 anchors then?  Have they posted their subsequent difficulties - or are they now the ones on eBay?   

Didn't see it as a dig TT and I'm glad you did point it out to him as I'd hate to think I made him buy something he couldn't use :embarassed: That's what we are all here for, to help each other *group hug*

From memory, it was a guy who posted up the pics of the calipers all set out, alongside the discs and carriers and some other bits. He wasn't a regular poster but wanted info on the carriers. Come to think of it, it was the rear carriers he was asking about.

[Rhyso]

I'm not too up with the Mk4 rear end conversions, but yes, on the Mk5 platform, it definately aint a "plug'n'play" simple bolt-on conversion, as many would lead you to believe! 

MKIV just required some 6mm spacers and the bigger splash guards - rest was plug and play 

Ahh - but you see - the Mk5 is a far more technically advanced, superior engineered specimen compared to the meagre Mk4 !!!       

yebut its far easier and cheaper to modify   none of this change the ENTIRE rear assembely to fit bigger brakes  

[luca]

Car has only done 3k miles so pads should be fine.

OK.  How old is the car?

And have you checked for correct adjustment of the handbrake cable?  The full detail is found in the appropriate workshop manual as listed in my sticky.

TT what do you mean by opening CV joints? will i need to do this when fitting the front R32 brakes?

LOL - unless your car is a "zero" wheel drive, then upgrading the fronts won't be an issue! 

Regarding the rears, because the R32 (and S3) have driven rear wheels, the rear end set up is designed to use rear driveshafts.  Now, at the outer end of the driveshaft, this has a CV joint (constant velocity, alowing drive to be transmitted across the joint at a constant speed, irrespective of the angle of the joint).  The "outer" part of the joint passes through the centre of the inner race of the wheel bearing (the outer race is supported in the wheel hub carrier), and is bolted to the actual rotating part of the hub, which also supports the brake disc, and the roadwheel.

Will probably upgrade the pads front and rear on the car when i have the R fronts.

Instead of R32 front brakes, go for the identical spec Leon Cupra R brakes, which are already painted red!

What pads are you considering?

As for with im saving a bit with the team dynamics so should bring the weight back to normal.

What - new rims?  Which ones?  Linky/pics please!  Team Dynamics have a very good customer service, and had an excellent "no-quibble" attitiude with a problem rim I had on SWMBOs previous Astra.

Blue 182. There wasnt much in it with the st on the straight, at higher speeds i reeled him in. As for his driving on the corners he was pretty shocking. He would go into the corner too quick and apply the brakes mid corner, upsetting the back end.

Oh, the joys of muppet drivers!  Actually, these tw@ts make my blood boil, as that kind of driving is invariably lethal to any following motorcyclists.  Slow in, fast out is the correct, and best way of dealing with bends/corners!

Thanks for clearing the cv joint question. Car is 2months old. The wheels are the same as vtechs, team dynamics pro race 1.2 in gloss black 18". Will be here by the end of the week so will have pics then. As for pads, i may go for ferodo or see if carbontech do brake pads to fit.
Would be easier getting the leon cupra brakes. Will try the seat dealers to see how much i can get them for.
Thanks TT

[K1]

I have the rear R32 brakes on my GTI. The mechanic did mention more work was needed to fit the rears. The rear brakes dust plates needed to be modded to fit.

Kev

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=87376.msg715439#msg715439

[luca]

How do you find them compared to the gti brakes?

[Teutonic_Tamer]

There was a guy on here who bought the front and rear R32 conversion. That's why I put yes as my answer. I didn't realise he'd had to change all those parts as well as the brake set

OK, sorry, I didn't mean to have a personal "dig" at anyone in particular.    Just didn't want to see anyone making an expensive "mistake"! 

Who was it from here who bought the front and rear R32 anchors then?  Have they posted their subsequent difficulties - or are they now the ones on eBay?   

Didn't see it as a dig TT and I'm glad you did point it out to him as I'd hate to think I made him buy something he couldn't use :embarassed: That's what we are all here for, to help each other *group hug*

OK, cool.  I'm just aware that my posts can sometimes seem a little harsh, or be taken out of context.  Thanks for clarifying - mwah, mwah !!   

From memory, it was a guy who posted up the pics of the calipers all set out, alongside the discs and carriers and some other bits. He wasn't a regular poster but wanted info on the carriers. Come to think of it, it was the rear carriers he was asking about.

OK.  But do we know if he actually got them fitted?

[Teutonic_Tamer]

I'm not too up with the Mk4 rear end conversions, but yes, on the Mk5 platform, it definately aint a "plug'n'play" simple bolt-on conversion, as many would lead you to believe! 

MKIV just required some 6mm spacers and the bigger splash guards - rest was plug and play 

Ahh - but you see - the Mk5 is a far more technically advanced, superior engineered specimen compared to the meagre Mk4 !!!       

yebut its far easier and cheaper to modify   none of this change the ENTIRE rear assembely to fit bigger brakes  

<fx/on> finds a corner to sulk <fx/off>

       

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Car has only done 3k miles so pads should be fine.

OK.  How old is the car?

And have you checked for correct adjustment of the handbrake cable?  The full detail is found in the appropriate workshop manual as listed in my sticky.

TT what do you mean by opening CV joints? will i need to do this when fitting the front R32 brakes?

LOL - unless your car is a "zero" wheel drive, then upgrading the fronts won't be an issue! 

Regarding the rears, because the R32 (and S3) have driven rear wheels, the rear end set up is designed to use rear driveshafts.  Now, at the outer end of the driveshaft, this has a CV joint (constant velocity, alowing drive to be transmitted across the joint at a constant speed, irrespective of the angle of the joint).  The "outer" part of the joint passes through the centre of the inner race of the wheel bearing (the outer race is supported in the wheel hub carrier), and is bolted to the actual rotating part of the hub, which also supports the brake disc, and the roadwheel.

Will probably upgrade the pads front and rear on the car when i have the R fronts.

Instead of R32 front brakes, go for the identical spec Leon Cupra R brakes, which are already painted red!

What pads are you considering?

As for with im saving a bit with the team dynamics so should bring the weight back to normal.

What - new rims?  Which ones?  Linky/pics please!  Team Dynamics have a very good customer service, and had an excellent "no-quibble" attitiude with a problem rim I had on SWMBOs previous Astra.

Blue 182. There wasnt much in it with the st on the straight, at higher speeds i reeled him in. As for his driving on the corners he was pretty shocking. He would go into the corner too quick and apply the brakes mid corner, upsetting the back end.

Oh, the joys of muppet drivers!  Actually, these tw@ts make my blood boil, as that kind of driving is invariably lethal to any following motorcyclists.  Slow in, fast out is the correct, and best way of dealing with bends/corners!

Thanks for clearing the cv joint question. Car is 2months old. The wheels are the same as vtechs, team dynamics pro race 1.2 in gloss black 18". Will be here by the end of the week so will have pics then. As for pads, i may go for ferodo or see if carbontech do brake pads to fit.
Would be easier getting the leon cupra brakes. Will try the seat dealers to see how much i can get them for.
Thanks TT

Try your local TPS - they do all four mainstream marques of the VW Group - and if you are spending that amount of dosh, a starting discount will be 10%.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

I have the rear R32 brakes on my GTI. The mechanic did mention more work was needed to fit the rears. The rear brakes dust plates needed to be modded to fit.

Kev

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=87376.msg715439#msg715439

Hmmmm - sorry to piss on your bonfire, but those do not look like Mk5 R32 rear anchors in your pics!  Can you post some clearer photos, showing the caliper and disc more clearly?

[TagnuT]

Are the R32 rears,GTI front brakes then? If you get what I mean?